Death!!!

[Guest guest]

Pranam.

 

Why are we (common people & even sadhaks) afraid of death?

 

1.> Death pains.

 

2.> Donot know what happens at the time of death and what will happen

after death?

 

3.> Pain of detatchment from this world - both materialistic &

sentimental ?

 

4.> My sadhna is wasted in this birth and..

 

5.> Donot know if we can continue the sadhna, in our next birth? Will

we have a position to continue our Sadhna in our next birth or is it

the end or road to sadhna and will never make it to the ultimate?

 

Why are we afraid of death???

 

LUV.

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, " Senthil " <senthil_sym wrote:

 

Dear Senthilji,

 

Namaste!

 

You have raised a very important question on DEATH. Actually i am

in a hurry to go to my yoga class further i have to attend a

function to a far off place and by the time i return it will be

very late but be assured all your queries will be answered

tomorrow.

 

With warm wishes,

 

Sudhakar

HARI OM TAT SAT! Cheers! )

 

 

> Pranam.

>

> Why are we (common people & even sadhaks) afraid of death?

[Guest guest]

, " Senthil " <senthil_sym wrote:

>

> Pranam.

>

> Why are we (common people & even sadhaks) afraid of death?

>

> 1.> Death pains.

>

> 2.> Donot know what happens at the time of death and what will

happen

> after death?

>

> 3.> Pain of detatchment from this world - both materialistic &

> sentimental ?

>

> 4.> My sadhna is wasted in this birth and..

>

> 5.> Donot know if we can continue the sadhna, in our next birth?

Will

> we have a position to continue our Sadhna in our next birth or is

it

> the end or road to sadhna and will never make it to the ultimate?

>

> Why are we afraid of death???

>

> LUV.

>

 

Dear senthil, for a true sadhaka 4 & 5 do not matter, as a true

sadhka knows that shri Krishna confirmed in Gita that any

sadhna/yoga done never goes wasted and in next birth we start from

where we left.

 

for common herds all other reasons are true. Fear of the

unknown, unfulfilled desires, attachment to relatives and material

things ... all make fear of death.

 

love

 

Aum

[Guest guest]

Dear Senthilji,

 

Namaste!

 

As promised yesterday herewith my answers to all your queries

on Death.

 

We are afraid of death because we do not know exactly what

happens at that time. Majority of human beings 99.9% refuse

to talk on death.

 

1. Yes, death pains - Sant Kabir says that it is like thousand

scorpions stinging you all together at the same time. For majority

of humans it is painful but not for all.

 

2. At the time of Death - majority of the people who are not

initiated into the doctrine of death by a true living master

will be taken away by Kal/Satan/Yamaraj's henchmen. They are

beings of light and you are in most cases taken away straight

to Yamaraj. The court is always in session. Your deeds are read

out and their is no Perry Mason or Batliwalla or Jethamalani to

rescue you. Strangely you do not argue also but accept the

judgement because you know it the Damn truth.

 

3. Yeah! pain of detachment from this world - both materialistic

and sentimental is very very " mentally " painful.

 

4. No your sadhana is not wasted. It is definitely carried forward

but it depends on your next birth whether it is human/animal or

anything else. And after wandering when you return to human birth

you will be able to carry on from where you left.

 

5. In the next birth the carryover may take place from childhood

itself or maybe when you are middle age or maybe in your oldage.

So there is no guarantee. It all depends upon your karma.

 

-------------- This answers the 5 queries posed by you -----------

 

Now what exactly happens at the time of death. Your extremity

starts going numb. i.e. first the feet then the ankle and in this

way the numbness rises, so also it starts at the hands and it rises

to reach shoulder and then neck, meantime from lower extremity

i.e. feet the numbness reaches neck and now the whole body is

paralysed but you are Conscious. You do not know what to do.

You know the end is near but you cannot communicate. This numbness

rises up till.........

 

contd.....tomorrow

 

With warm wishes,

 

Sudhakar

HARI OM TAT SAT! Cheers! )

 

 

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> , " Senthil " <senthil_sym@> wrote:

>> > Pranam.

> >

> > Why are we (common people & even sadhaks) afraid of death?

>

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, " spbyoga9 " <spbyoga9 wrote:

>

> 5. In the next birth the carryover may take place from childhood

> itself or maybe when you are middle age or maybe in your oldage.

>

 

Dear brother Sudhakar

 

Could you elaborate on number 5 please? What exactly is carried over?

 

With love

 

Farah

[Guest guest]

> Why are we afraid of death???

 

Senthilji, fear of death is pre-programmed into us. The Yoga Sutras

say it is one of hindrances to Yoga(along with Raga-Dvesha or

attraction-repulsion). Patanjali says even the wise people, who have

knowledge of scriptures, & may have risen above attraction/repulsion

to the world , may still be afraid of death.

 

The only way to rise above this fear is to rise above the body- as

long as you identify with the body, you will be scared of death, no

matter how much knowledge you have.

 

Our inner being is immortal- as long as we dont identify with that, we

always have to live with pain & fear of death.

 

love

Shantnu

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, " spbyoga9 " <spbyoga9 wrote:

 

Dear spbyoga9

 

Namaste!

 

Thanks it was quite understandable reply. Please tell me

 

1- Why we dont remember past lives

 

2- Can human beings take re-birth as animals?

 

jaya

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, shanracer <no_reply wrote:

 

> Senthilji, fear of death is pre-programmed into us. The Yoga Sutras

> say it is one of hindrances to Yoga(along with Raga-Dvesha or

> attraction-repulsion). Patanjali says even the wise people, who

 

Dear Shanracer,

 

How this fear is pre-programmed ? Who is really afraid of Death ? It

cant be body as body does not take rebirth. We have no recollection

of past memories hence mind and buddhi can not recall previous deaths.

 

so who exactly fears death and why?

 

Aum

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, " janfarah_strongspirit "

<janfarah_strongspirit wrote:

Hello Farahji,

 

Namaste!

 

The meaning of item no. 5 - carry over is, suppose i have done say

any sadhana, for example sake, gayathri devi sadhana and before

completion i die. When i am reborn in human birth again i will

instinctively take up that sadhana. It won't be an alien concept

to me. It will be more like a duck taking to water. But before we

are born all our memories of previous life is rubbed off so we do

not recall it. Exception to the rule is always there.

So my gayathri devi sadhana which is incomplete is stored and

carried forward in this birth in a suspended state and anything

can trigger it off - like reading a book, or attending yagya

somewhere, or a wondering monk who can look into the past and future

can initiate and vanish which will lead to triggering off and i will

start from there where i left off in my previous birth though for

record sake i may go thru preliminaries but unlike other people who

are new to the path for me it will a piece of cake or as they say

walkover and then i will restart and progress faster than others

who might be on this path before me in this birth and then they can

feel very envious about me because for them i am a new person and

how come i progressed so fast which is nothing but carry over from

previous birth. This specially applies to child prodigies.

I hope this clears your doubt but if still cannot make head or tail

of it ask.

 

With warm wishes,

 

Sudhakar

HARI OM TAT SAT! Cheers! )

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> , " spbyoga9 " <spbyoga9@> wrote:

> >

> > 5. In the next birth the carryover may take place from childhood

> > itself or maybe when you are middle age or maybe in your oldage.

> >

>

> Dear brother Sudhakar

>

> Could you elaborate on number 5 please? What exactly is carried over?

>

> With love

>

> Farah

>

[Guest guest]

> How this fear is pre-programmed ? Who is really afraid of Death ? It

> cant be body as body does not take rebirth. We have no recollection

> of past memories hence mind and buddhi can not recall previous deaths.

>

> so who exactly fears death and why?

 

Aumji, the infinite conciousness identified with the body is scared of

death. It remembers its immortal state, but that memory is vague &

clouded by Karma & Sanskaars. So it wrongly identifies the

physical/astral body with that immortal state.

 

Just intellectually knowing about this isnt enough- as this fear goes

to th depth of our conciousness, well beyond the mind. Until we clear

our conciousness of deeply hidden sanskars, & experience the deathless

state while alive(which happens in Samadhi), we cannot go beyond our

fear of death.

 

with love

Shantnu

[Guest guest]

Yes Shatnuji,

Can also say it this way...

" The Fear of Death can be overcome only by Experiencing Death, which is the

Entry Door to SAMADHI " .

 

shanracer <no_reply > wrote:

 

Aumji, the infinite conciousness identified with the body is scared of

[Guest guest]

, Anupam Shil <anupamshil wrote:

 

> " The Fear of Death can be overcome only by Experiencing Death, which

>is the Entry Door to SAMADHI " .

 

Yes Anupamji that is perfect.

[Guest guest]

, " spbyoga9 " <spbyoga9 wrote:

>

> Now what exactly happens at the time of death. Your extremity

> starts going numb. i.e. first the feet then the ankle and in this

> way the numbness rises, so also it starts at the hands and it rises

> to reach shoulder and then neck, meantime from lower extremity

> i.e. feet the numbness reaches neck and now the whole body is

> paralysed but you are Conscious. You do not know what to do.

> You know the end is near but you cannot communicate. This numbness

> rises up till.........

>

> contd.....tomorrow

>

 

 

Dear Sudhakarji, wow such vivid explanation at the time of

death !! How did you get this information...did u ever went through

NDE?

 

regards

 

Aum

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, jaya_sundram <no_reply wrote:

 

Hello Jayaji,

 

Namaste!

 

1. According to what i have read, it has been purposefully kept

by Dharmaraj/Yamaraj so that if you know what sins you have

committed in previous life you will refrain from committing the

same again, in which case you will attempt to escape from this 84

lakhs yoni birth and rebirth (cycle of birth and rebirth) and this

Kalpurush/Yamaraj/Dharmaraj certainly does not want to happen.

 

2. Most definitely, though many argue that from human birth rebirth

will take place only in humans and no chance of going downward

towards animals. I have read many such tales where Brahmins are

born as pigs and cows but most interesting is about Lord Indra -

King of Gods. Once to a query Lord Krishna says to Udhava, Look at

that ant scurryinhg off in a hurry, it was lord Indra in its

previous birth but because of his KuKarma, look at the state he is

fallen into.

 

I hope this answers your two questions.

 

With warm wishes,

 

Sudhakar

HARI OM TAT SAT! Cheers! )

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> , " spbyoga9 " <spbyoga9@> wrote:

>

> Dear spbyoga9

>

> Namaste!

>

> Thanks it was quite understandable reply. Please tell me

>

> 1- Why we dont remember past lives

>

> 2- Can human beings take re-birth as animals?

>

> jaya

>

[Guest guest]

Pranam & thanks to everyone.

 

Yes the fear of death leads one to rise above the body and think

about our innerself.

 

..> why does it takes a lot of time for many to get back into path of

sadhna in their next birth? is this coz of the quantity & quality of

sadhna we did in our past or is it coz of the karma ( karma done in

the life prior to sadhana )

 

..> is there any yoga/sadhna path which can be followed/adopted so

that in the future birth we can take up sadhna in a early stage?

 

..> Does the karma of our parents, wife, children, Guru affect in

postponing or preponing the spark/commencment of sadhna in next birth?

 

..> I had a strange experience queit a few time, while in sleep,

suddenly i will not be able to move any of my body parts, it will be

like numbness all thro the body, then i feel to speak /

shout /screeem, but could not... after a few minutes ( i donot know

minutes or hours ) i will wake up and ask my wife or children did you

hear my scream, but none of the time they heard anything.... IS THIS

A NDE?

 

Thanks every one.

LUV.

[Guest guest]

, jaya_sundram <no_reply wrote:

 

> 1- Why we dont remember past lives

 

Jayaji, Nature wants to work towards our spiritual progress, not waste

time in fixing last lives problems. A story illustrates this:

 

Once a Sadhu was walking on a road, when he saw a rich man builidng a

house. The rich man said " This will be the best house in town,

everyone will be jealous of me! " The Sadhu laughed loudly.

The next day he was walking on same road, when he saw the rich man

playing with his baby son. The son urinated on the father, but the

father just wiped it & kissed his son. At this the Sadhu laughed again.

The 3rd day, again the Sadhu was passing when the rich man said to his

son " Son, 1 day you will make me proud " . At this the Sadhu laughed so

loudly he fell on the floor. This time the rich man couldnt take it

any more, & asked the Sadhu why he had laughed.

 

The Sadhu said, 1st, you are happy for this house, yet you will die in

6 months, & never get a chance to live in it. 2nd, this boy is your

wifes lover from your previous life, whom you had brutally murdered.

This life he has come to take revenge on you, & he even peed on you,

yet you kissed him. 3rd, this son will destroy all your wealth, as he

has only come to take revenge " .

 

The rich man was in tears. He asked if he could do anything. The Sadhu

said, spend the last 6 months of your life praying & chanting, as even

a minutes meditation doesnt go waste.

 

Do you think we would treat our friends, relatives as we do if we knew

why they had come to us, especially if they have come to take revenge?

 

A more deep answer is- each of our lives is built by our causal body

taking up some Karma & creating a body with it. As such, there is no

necessary connection between lives. So to try to study your past life

would only distract you. The only exception is great Yogis, who use

this knowledge to figure out which Karma are stopping them from

Moksha, & then finish those karmas. But for normal people, this

knowledge would be a burden & a curse, so its kept hidden.

 

> 2- Can human beings take re-birth as animals?

 

Yes, in extreme rare cases. But its always a temporary stay.

 

with love

Shantnu

[Guest guest]

Babaji , This description fits into SHAVASANA & nbsp; which I had practised

several times. My doubt is

" Does one experience pain or any other unpleasant sensation? "

Thanks sir

ijswamy

 

 

~SWAMY

http://gjnanaswarup.spaces.live.com/blog/

 

 

Dear Sudhakarji, wow such vivid explanation at the time of

death !! How did you get this information. ..did u ever went through

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

, " spbyoga9 " <spbyoga9 wrote:

>

suppose i have done say

> any sadhana

 

Dear Sudhakar

 

Thats great thankyou, these are all very interesting posts... if others

have had NDE's it would be so interesting to share them too...

 

With love

 

Farah

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, " spbyoga9 " <spbyoga9 wrote:

 

Dear Senthilji,

 

Namaste!

 

here is the balance instalment...

 

This numbness rises up till the third eye/shivnetra/tisra til etc.,

etc., as it is called. This is in between the two eyebrows where

women usually make a tikka - apply kumkum or where males apply

gopi chandan or sandalwood paste.

 

Now here the soul passes either from the head in which case we

cannot make out. It may mass pass thru the eyes in which case your

eyes remain open. It may pass thru mouth and that will also remain

open. Ofcourse sometimes both may remain open but it goes thru

either one of them, in which case again we cannot make out. It may

pass thru ear in which case you cannot make out.

Further the learned say that if the soul is going to be born in

Neech Yoni, i.e. lower strata of animals/reptiles/insects you may

urinate or defecate and that will be an indication that the soul

has travelled into the lower region.

 

Sometimes the soul separates from the body and you have OOBE

(i.e. out of body experience) specially when you are under

anaesthesia or extremely tired or in pain. Ofcourse every night

when you sleep also you have oobe but you are hardly ever conscious.

 

So what is the solution. Practically every religion has it.

In Bible St. Paul said: I DIE DAILY. (it is another thing majority

of the christains have never read it and those who preach do not

know what is means and to avoid embarassment say vague things to

escape from such query - so much for being a ordained priest)

 

In other religion specially sufis and zen master they talk of

JEETE JI MARNA, i.e Dying while leaving. It is a meditation

technique i had mentioned in passing to Farahaji and she did not

show interest nor others who read about it so i am not suppose to

tell it but yours was a genuine query which i felt all our Sadanaa

group people will benefit so i opened my mouth.

 

I hope nobody will ask me my experience which i am sworn to

secrecy nor will i talk about my path, for i seek no publicity

or anything else.

 

I hope this will satisfy your doubts which i have answered fully

to my capacity.

 

If you read Garuda Purana you will will come to know further

about what happens. It is rarely read accept during BHOG ceremony.

 

With warm wishes,

 

Sudhakar

HARI OM TAT SAT! Cheers! )

 

> Dear Senthilji,

>

> Namaste!

>

> As promised yesterday herewith my answers to all your queries

> on Death.

[Guest guest]

> I DIE DAILY.

> JEETE JI MARNA,

SudhakarJi, thanks for all your informations. But people advise not to

read Garuda Purana at home and should be read only at temple / ashram,

is it so?

Thanks.

Luv.

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, " Senthil " <senthil_sym wrote:

 

Dear Senthilji,

 

Namaste!

 

That again proves the unnecessary fear which is planted in our

minds. Do you think by reading Garuda Purana, you will invite

your death or those listening to you in the house, will they die?

No, but if they are destined at that time, you cannot take that

example as the authority or the truth. For instance, i found one

person swallowing his food and when i asked him - why don't you

chew, he made a face of astonishment and explained that rice is

Goddess Laxmi and further at this instance the lady of the house

started explaining to me for 5 minutes on importance of not chewing

the rice. After she finished her explanation i asked when you wash

the rice you are drowning goddess laxmiji and you usually wash it

three times so at that time your laxmiji is definitely dead and then

you put her in the pressure cooker to cook and at that time your

goddess Laxmiji is completely certified DEAD then what difference

it makes whether you chew it or swallow it.

Such a questioning was a slap to that lady who thought she was very

well versed with such matters. She just could not answer and then

i asked her WHO TOLD YOU THIS and she said the priest told her. I

am having hard time in telling people to chew the food.

 

So please do not worry - you will not die if you read garuda purana

at home but please read it in mind otherwise other sensitive people

in the house will object and will think of you as VINASH KALE

VIPARIT BUDDHI.

 

I hope i have made it clear if still in doubt do ask.

 

With warm wishes,

 

Sudhakar

HARI OM TAT SAT! Cheers! )

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

> > I DIE DAILY.

> > JEETE JI MARNA,

> SudhakarJi, thanks for all your informations. But people advise not

to

> read Garuda Purana at home and should be read only at temple /

ashram,

> is it so?

> Thanks.

> Luv.

>

[Guest guest]

, " J.SWAMY IRAGAVARAPU "

<jiragavarapu wrote:

>

> Babaji , This description fits into SHAVASANA & nbsp; which I had

practised several times. My doubt is

> " Does one experience pain or any other unpleasant sensation? "

> Thanks sir

> ijswamy

 

 

Dear Swamiji, Pain is quite common at the time of death, as

Sudhakarji told a pain equal to 100s of scorpion bite... but this

pain vanishes before the final moments of death. The pain remains

till the Brain is active and when pranas are drawn out of brain and

subtle body separates from physical body, all pains vanish.

 

Death is a wonderful experience and there is nothing to be afraid of

from death. Painful death is also due to Karmas. Those who have

less negativity and lesser bad karma, die peacefully too.

 

love

 

Aum