Guest guest Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 HARE KRISHAN , HARE RAM Thanks to all the sadhakas for posting on Yoga esp . Hath and Raj Yoga i have got valuable knowledge from all the postings . thanks to all i want to ask a question which would cover the postings of all the Sadhakas .. AUM Sir Ji , Shantanu Sir Ji , Sudhakar Sir Ji , M.S.Thimm Sir Ji , Anusuia Madem Is it necessary that Maan Kundalini would definetely be awakened ( By efforts or automatic ) for a any kind of Yogi weather Bhakti Yogi or Jnan Yogi ,............or Hath Yogi ,........ who is reached into the heigher stage of Sadhana By efforts means - by Hath Yoga , Raj Yoga automatically means without any efforts if Maan Kundalini are awakened in someone OR IT IS NOT NECESSARY . ONE CAN ATTAIN MOKSHA WITHOUT AWAKENING OF KUNDALINI ALSO . ALSO PLEASE EXPLAIN YOUR ANSWER . THANKS TO ALL FOR SHARING HARE KRISHAN ,HARE KRISHAN ,KRISHAN KRISHAN ,HARE HARE ,HARE RAM ,RAM RAM ,HARE HARE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 , " jitendra kumar " <jtin_ja wrote: >> Is it necessary that Maan Kundalini would definetely be awakened ( By > efforts or automatic ) for a any kind of Yogi weather Bhakti Yogi My dear Jitinder, You have asked a very important question. and i m sure others would reply suitably. My understanding is that awakening of kundalini is an integral part of all yogas and meditations. Whatever sadhana we do, finally causes the kundalini to awaken. In some sadhanas (like hathh yoga), the kundalini is consciously awakened, while in other sadhanas (bhakti) sadhaka does not even think about kundalini, but still his bhakti causes kundalini to awaken and rise above. Thus Kundalini yoga is the basis for all sadhanas. When we concentrate on any thing, the kundalini emits some positive prana up the spine. Even a scientist who is engrossed in a research, is helped by Kundalini. Example of Madame Marie Curie is worth mentioning here. She was really worried about the final equation about Radium, but could not find any answer to her querry, and she continuously concentrated over the final chemical equaltion...and lo in the night she went to her lab by sleep walking and wrote the final equation, which was not known to anyone on earth. Another scientist who invented the sewing machine was much worried over how to thread the needle of the machine... he tried the old methods of putting thread in the tail but the machine was not working. In the night he saw a dream in which a demon is chasing him... the demon has a spear in his hands and it has a rope going through the pointed edge of the needle. He immediately woke up and tried threading through nose of needle and the machine was a success. All these incidents show that when ever we concentrate kundalini helps us by sending energy to our brain.... now we use this energy for spiritual upliftment or for material gains, is our outlook. All religions, all sadhnas, and all yogas are directly or indirectly making the kundalini awaken and rise above the material levels. Those who do it indirectly, get late benefits of kundalini and those who do it directly get faster benefits. But Kundalini is so powerful and dangerous, that we should not try playing with it, by reading some books. Hari Aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 , aumji <no_reply wrot Dear Jeetubhai, Namaste! After read Aumji's explanation i have nothing more to add except no matter what keep at it with a pure heart and leave the result to him. With warm wishes, Sudhakar HARI OM TAT SAT! Cheers! ) > My dear Jitinder, > > You have asked a very important question. and i m sure others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 > Is it necessary that Maan Kundalini would definetely be awakened ( Jitendarji, the Kundalni always awakens, no matter what Sadhna one does. Usually, if one if is a Bhakta( & a Raj/Hatha Yogi maybe a Bhakta too), the Kundalni takes the form of your Ista Devta- which maybe Krishna, Shiva, Durga. Kundalni doesnt have to take form of Goddess only- in fact Kundalni isnt female at all, thats just a description. Some Buddhists worship Kundalni as male, & the final stage at crown chakra as female(which they call Pragya or wisdom). But Indian Yogis have found its better to worship her as Mother, as that is the safest way. In case of Bhaktas, Kundalni takes the form of your Ishta Devta, & starts guiding you. One has to be careful that this is not just ones imagination, as many people who have a strong ego also imagine this. A good Guru is needed here. For Karma Yogis, Kundalni makes the body/mind so strong that one is able to do superhuman feats. So a Yogi sitting in Himalayas may have helped the French revolution by his thoughts alone(I read this somewhere, it is true, not just an example). For Gyan Yogis, Kundalni becomes Chit Shakti, or power of Conciousness(which is her real form). She shows them everything is made of awareness. No matter what one does, it is the power of Kundalni, who is the Mother of the Universe. Even film stars, with all their beauty & charisma, are nothing without the power of Kundalni shakti backing them. If they were to realise this & offer thanks to the Divine Mother, she would make their beauty 10 times more. But most people are lost in ignorance, & think its their own greatness, which is why ultimtely they lose their power- whether it be of beauty, knowledge or physical power. with love, Shantnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 HARE KRISHAN ,HARE RAM Thanks to all the Sadhakas for sharing valuable knowledge . do all the Chakras have same magnitude of energy . please explain answer and could you please comment something on the connectivity of these 7 Chakras . THANKS TO ALL HARE KRISHAN ,HARE KRISHAN , KRISHAN KRISHAN ,HARE HARE,HARE RAM ,HARE RAM ,RAM RAM,HARE HARE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 , " jitendra kumar " <jtin_ja wrote: > do all the Chakras have same magnitude of energy . please explain > answer According to Hatha Yoga/Tantra sources, to open 1st chakra requires twice as much energy as we need to stay alive. The 2nd chakra requires twice as much energy as 1st, & so on for all chakras. So a normal person cannot even dream of opening the chakras. Thats why strong meditation has to be done to get more energy, as well as Yama/Niyams followed to stop leakage of current energy. > and could you please comment something on the connectivity of these 7 > Chakras . Do you mean how they are related? The Chakras represent different states of awareness. The lowest represents gross physical world, where most peoples awareness is(which is why it is said Kundalni sleeps there. The hidden meaning is- the Shakti of the whole Universe, is asleep in most people, & so they can only work in physical world). All the higher Chakras represent different astral/causal worlds- which is why opening these chakras gives supernatural powers, as what seems supernatural to us(telepathy) maybe normal in higher worlds(like astral). The Agya chakra(between eyebrows) represents Universal conciousness. The person who brings awareness or Kundalni here identifies himself with whole Universe- so he becomes God. The highest chakra represents the final state- which is beyond the manifest world. with love Shantnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Dear Jitendraji, I fully agree with Aumji's , rise of kundalini is the substratum in the outcome of any spiritual practice(including of course all types of yoga) as well as in any creative and advanced achievement of human spirit. Regards, M.S.Thimmappa > , " jitendra kumar " <jtin_ja@> > wrote: > >> Is it necessary that Maan Kundalini would definetely be awakened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 Dear Jithuji , A Sadhak must start sadhana early (I realised it late). Then getting from one chakra to other is like going from middle school to high school. The next chakra is the next higher grade Then the next. Ultimately a student who starts study at the earliest gets his PhD But then PhD is the highest.So a late starter like me is one who started alphabets late He needs/takes more time and much more effort to get to PhD My understanding goes this far. OM NAMO NARAYANAYA ijswamy jitendra kumar <jtin_ja wrote: HARE KRISHAN ,HARE RAM Thanks to all the Sadhakas for sharing valuable knowledge . do all the Chakras have same magnitude of energy . please explain answer and could you please comment something on the connectivity of these 7 Chakras . THANKS TO ALL HARE KRISHAN ,HARE KRISHAN , KRISHAN KRISHAN ,HARE HARE,HARE RAM ,HARE RAM ,RAM RAM,HARE HARE ~SWAMY http://gjnanaswarup.spaces.live.com/blog/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 HARE KRISHAN ,HARE RAM , A Sadhak must start sadhana early (I realised it late). Then getting from one chakra to other is like going from middle school to high school. Sir Ji please do not feel like that that you have started sadhana late because whatever you have done before that could also be kind of Sadhana . building of a family , following dharma ,......these are also kind of yajna OR a part of Sadhana . you do not know the process how the results are accumulating , hence please have faith in you . you would definetely get the results sooner or latter . the most important thing is realisation once you have realized that God is everthing and you should try to merge in Him than half portion of the Sadhana is over . now you have to practice and TIME IS IMMATERIAL when you have been decided to enter into spiritualism completely . AS for as concern for Chakras what i personally think that there is no hard and fast rule , one can concentrate on any Chakra , but there is a difference in energy in different Chakras . and we need that much energy to open that particular Chakra . also i think that they are related to each other in a way that if you directly concentrate on the Agneya Chakra than lower Chakras starts opening automatically without any concentration on lower Chakras but slowly slowly as AUM Sir explained in last posting beautifully on Maan Kundalini . Hence i request to all to explain little more ON CHAKRAS AND MAAN KUNDALINI . Though Shantanu Sir gave some idea about that energy , but still i think we need to go into detail . thanks to all HARE KRISHAN ,HARE KRISHAN ,KRISHAN KRISHAN ,HARE HARE ,HARE RAM ,HARE RAM ,RAM RAM ,HARE HARE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2008 Report Share Posted May 28, 2008 shantnu sir the kind of information about kundalini is superb. Truly said there is no duality, everything is just one...awareness. the attributes you described about kundalini are just the same like soul do you mean here to say that soul is the shiva and kundalini is the shakti? thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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