Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 E is equal to m multiplied by c multiplied by c Three days of close companionship with Jeffrey and Sandi were joyful & hilarious.....also deja vu. On the way to meet Jeffrey at Thane on the first day, a thought that had sprouted a month back sprung back to action :-) Since the dawn of civilization human being in all forms and at all levels of existence is captured by a deep-rooted yearning. The yearning for FREEDOM. Needless to say, all the epics and great stories that we read and that makes news in Daily newspapers everyday in some way or other related with the same basic ground instinct - FREEDOM. Whats Freedom BTW??? Disassociation with something OR association with something? On a positive note the ancient sciences says it YOGA (+). Though this inner urge of the mankind has always instigated to continuously investigate and find a newer and better state.....for the Mind and the Body, of which most common people are involuntarily conscious of. Obviously, the shortest & easiest solution that has been discovered by us to reach this desired outcome has been - Sex & Money. Oh yeah !!! Money can instantaneously change the state of affair of this Body...even if temporarily, but it CAN. And so does Sex for the Mind. Realizing so, even the dignified & wise governments of this world have long back decided to produce and release licenses for Brothels & Casinos :-P Yet, A Third platform that the RISHIS contemplated, explored, derived & experienced was the TRUE FREEDOM of permanence, which was expounded thru VEDIC SCRIPTURES. Einstein propounded his Theory of Relativity and as a consequence the Mass-Energy equivalence was established as E = m x c x c, which was subsequently been proved with matter ( at a macrocosmic level). The same principal in fact applies even to the microcosmic world (Yat Pinde, Tat Bramhande). E = Soul = Every Being can be equated back to this State where elementarily, ALL ARE SAME, i.e., Energy or Atma. m = Body = Mass c = Mind = Speed of Light (Macrocosmic) / Speed of Thought (Microcosmic).....which is more or less a constant. PROCESS: c x c = Multiplication (Repetition) changes the dimension = MANTRA (The process of freeing the Mind by changing its dimension) m = Body = YANTRA (Body is the basic instrument to act with) Further, m x c x c = TANTRA (further, multiplying them together in order to take the consciousness to a Fourth Dimension) = E (derives the Atma within our consciousness, thats in direct association with the Cosmic Consciousness) MANTRA, TANTRA, YANTRA VIGYAN is... ETERNITY/ENERGY [E] = TANTRA [YANTRA (m) x MANTRA (c x c)] Regards, Anupam Skype: anupam.shil Blog: http://asahihasa.blogspot.com Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 OHM This is a very interesting post. Let us all meditate ijswamy Anupam Shil <anupamshil wrote: E is equal to m multiplied by c multiplied by c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Dear Sadhaks - Namaskarams E =m x c x c Let`s substitute E =Soul`s energy or Shakti of a Soul. m = mass of the body c = speed of light Before we can explain this Einstein`s theory of relativity in spiritual language , we must clearly understand the difference between the MIND and SOUL. SOUL = Later MIND --- Has several attributes like Conscience, Thought, Creativity, Intelligence ,Perception ,Comprehension,Memory,Maturity,Emotional status,Sensory and Motor functions Conscience has several planes. These planes roughly (limited to human/my level of understanding) but not exactly corresponds to the functional efficacy and limitations of various CHAKRAS .Conscience limited to Mooladhara keeps the host(body) limited to primitive totally carnal,mundane and easily accessible pleasures.The highest plane is when the host (body)volunteers to lose even the life for eternal and spiritual causes. Thought is thinking,speaking ,writing and communicating to others. Creativity is thinking in a novel way like composing poetry,music, painting, dancing and like in a unique and totally individualised mode. Intelligence is the ability interpret an old information in a new way Perception is to understand an object fully based o the sensory perception like touching a coin and recognising its value Memory is the entite information in the mind that can be recalled at will (information not recalled at will but receiving in a haphazard and fragmented way is called a DREAM ) Maturity is the capacity and willingness to adapt to changing times and changing circumstances Emotional status is enjoying ,suffering and tolerating with varied external behavioural expression. Sensory function is touching,seeing,smelling, tasting and hearing Motor function is movig,resting gesturing etc. Mind of each human being is highly individualised. One may think well be intelligen but not creative, another may be creative but blind or deaf,yet another may be intelligent,creative,mature but be primitive in conscience. Imagine a theoretical human being who is at the highest level of conscence(like Yudhistira),think effectively(like Vikramadithya) be very creative (like Thyagaraja),extremely intelligent (like Bruhaspati),perceive the world perfectly(like an Avadhani),comprehend mundane and spiritual matters well (like a Yogi),has an extrordinary memory (like Srinivasa Ramanujam),very mature,emotionally stable ie accepting pleasure and pain with similar smiling face(like Yudhistira),perfect in all senses and motor functins of a yogi ( like Pathanjali). Such a human does not exist. But that theoretical human mind is otherwise known as SOUL. SOUL is perfect but mind is not. The SPIRITUAL energy of a single human SOUL is nearly limitless. What happens if all humans become perfect by SADHANA and all such SOULS seek THE LORD ? A single SOUL MULTIPLIPIES BY ITSELF? Yes, PERFECTION CAN BE IMPROVED ONLY BY MULTIPLYING IT PERFECTON. This concept is difficult to understand but not impossible. Most SAADHAKS can contemplate and get the spiritual and its temporal meaning of the formula E=m c c May request Shantnuji and other Sadhaks to give their valuable feedback and criticism ? Thanks ijswamy Anupam Shil <anupamshil wrote: E is equal to m multiplied by c multiplied by c Three days of close companionship with Jeffrey and Sandi were joyful & Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 Well said Sir........ Am trying to explain as I understand this phenomenon from a Sadhanatmak angle. Here is a SADHAK...who is trying some union with " The Higher Consciousness " . His Body is the YANTRA = Mass = m His Mind is the MANTRA = Speed of Light = c Mind in is present form is kinda...in a scattered state of affair. It needs momentum in order to get " organized " and " focussed " , which is done by JAPA. This phenomenon is what is Squaring.....to make c...into cxc This momentum or vibration or State of Consciousness of the Mind, as attained, needs to be distributed throught to Universe (Bramhand). The Bramhand (Macrocosm) that exists outside does also exist within The Body (Microcosm). This application of fusing this vibrations of " The Transformed Mind " into the Body is done thry ASANA. Thus, to obtain a perfect multiplication of cxc with the m (Mass/Body). When we start this process, at the inception normally the equation can takes place in various ways like.... c x (c - a) (c + a) x c c x c x (m - b)........unless the perfect equation is attained the experience of ENERGY/ETERNITY does not surface to the Sadhak. (Energy itself is Eternity.....coz it can Never be Created nor Destroyed - II nd Law of Thermodynamics) Once a Sadhak has been able to perfectly attain this STATE/EQUATION...even for a Split Second.....the EXPERIENCE of this expanded Consciousness dawns upon. Thus, revising again.........BODY (m) = YANTRA; MIND © = MANTRA And, this whole set of " Organized Application " is called, TANTRA = m x c x c = E (Energy/Eternity). " J.SWAMY IRAGAVARAPU " <jiragavarapu wrote: Dear Sadhaks - Namaskarams E =m x c x c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 Quite true Vijay Bhaskar ji , Mass =Human body with a shape size height weight is the medium (machine /yantra) through which nature of soul with full attributes nan be realised.- - " m " =Yantra Soul(perfect version) of a human is acheived/ used for meditation, sadhana, yoga, prayer, bhakti et al is(Mantra) " c " which travels at the speed of light (mano vega) =the perfect speed . Perfection of all souls is c multiplied by c mxcxc= E is the ADISHAKTI=ABSOLUTE ENERGY=COSMIC SOUL=PARAMATHMA. Paramatma is no longer a mass but mass converted to Shakti (through Tantra) So GOD is Saakaara /Nirakara has no shape but can be in any shape. Omnipresent/not physically seen anywhere. Omniscient/does not reveal everything to everyone. Thanks ijswamy Anupam Shil <anupamshil wrote: Well said Sir........ Am trying to explain as I understand this phenomenon from a Sadhanatmak angle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 HARE KRISHNA ,HARE RAMA Very nice interpretation of E=MXCXC SPIRITUALLY now further let us continue with the queries that how do you define mass or Yantra that is very important to know because we all may have different understanding . is it rest mass or Relative mass because the mass is also dependent on the speed . secondaly this energy would be positive or negative . but if you say positive than i would say that the spiritual energy of the infinite consciousness is neither positive nor negative but it is Zero . and that is why there is a concept of matter and anti matter perhaps , the positive and negative energy neutralizes each other . please share your comments on my views too thanks HARE KRISHNA ,HARE KRISHNA ,KRISHNA KRISHNA ,HARE HARE , HARE RAMA , HARE RAMA ,RAMA RAMA ,HARE HARE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Dear Jituji , and other Sadhaks Namaskarams Thank you for feedback. The idea is to convince human bodily attributes can be used as Tantras to achieve Eternal energy. If mass is human body ANTIMATTER is a body that works against itself. Someone who uses the body for material pleasures only like one who smokes ,drinks,eats like a glutton,rests always and spends no time in prayer or meditation is making his body work against itself will die soon and after death the body destroys itself by decomposition or destruction ---This mass or matter is ANTIMATTER.This antimatter achieves no spiritual attributes. Anti m x any speed will be Zero. Mass varies with speed . I learnt Pythagoras theorem in 30 minutes. A rider based on it within 15 minutes,a second rider within 5 minutes and all other riders in lesser time. As (speed) c increases the quantum of energy from the same mass also increases. We achieve a very little spiritual energy after a lot of yoga ,meditation etc. Next we achieve more in less time. AND WE ACHIEVE EVERYTHING ( COSMIC BLISS) IN NO TIME GOD achieved everything in less than zero time ie TIME RUNNING BACKWARDS. COSMIC ENERGY (PARAMATMA) IS NEITHER ZERO NOR INFINITE ,NEITHER POSITIVE NOR NEGATIVE Einstein said there are four dimensions but who knows God has many more dimensions. Human brain can not comprehend much with our limitations My knowledge (ignorance) of physics and mathematics has a limited scope. thanking you ijswamy jitendra kumar <jtin_ja wrote: HARE KRISHNA ,HARE RAMA Very nice interpretation of E=MXCXC SPIRITUALLY now further let us continue with the queries that how do you define mass or Yantra that is very important to know because we all may have different understanding . is it rest mass or ~SWAMY http://gjnanaswarup.spaces.live.com/blog/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 Dear Jitendraji, You got me thinking MASS: This Mass (m) should not be understood as the Mass of the Sadhak's Body. If it was so, then a Fat Sadhak shall produce more Energy than a Thin Sadhak, coz c x c is anyway constant . So the physical mass of the Sadhak i.e., The Sharir of the Sadhak is merely an instrument to act as an 'unperturbed containment' within which the metaphysical reaction can take place. This is facilitated thru Asan Siddhi...with practice. Well, the Mass (m) actually refers here is to the mass of the Metaphysical Sharir......we could say Sukshma Sharir within which in fact the Energy (E) comes into action. So, how Active/Live (Jagrat) is the Sukshma Sharir of the Sadhak....Energy produced with be in correlation to That. POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE: Energy in its Purest Form is neither Positive or Negative. It is simply energy. Only Constructive or Destructive usage designates its destiny. After all, all the asuras that we read about were extremely elevated Sadhaks. The concept of Matter (Atom) and Anti-matter (Photons) is exactly explained by Einstein with this equation that we are discussing about, that both forms are interchangable. Regards & HARE KRISHNA, Anupam jitendra kumar <jtin_ja wrote: HARE KRISHNA ,HARE RAMA Very nice interpretation of E=MXCXC SPIRITUALLY now further let us continue with the queries that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 HARE KRISHNA ,HARE RAMA > MASS: This Mass (m) should not be understood as the Mass of the Sadhak's Body. If it was so, then a Fat Sadhak shall produce more Energy than a Thin Sadhak, coz c x c is anyway constant . So the > > Thanks Swamy Ji Sir Ji and Anupam Sir ji i think Sir ji 1. again no doubt you are sharing a very important portion and i may not be elegible to learn it , but with the grace of AUM Baba Sir ji i am getting the benefit of that group. He is in Delhi i want to say Hare Krishna , Hare Rama to Him . perhaps once gain we all would get an oppartunity to learn His teachings. it is the subject of our Happiness . Thanks to Lord . but still i would add my opinion too . the total energy we possess at a particular Instant of time is the energy of the active part of the physical , astral and casual body . but it is not ALWAYS necessary that all the time astral or Shuksham body would be completely active/alive and other body's would be in dormant state . i do not know exacly what is Shuksham body in english so please forgive me . but i think it is one of astral or casual body . 2. it is true that pure energy is neither positive nor negative hence we can call it Zero energy or reference energy or absolute enerey or whatever name we can give .... beacuse in this equation the energy is released( in the form of photons) because of the difference in the rest masses of the matter (eg electron) and antimatter (positron)when these go through annihilation . but think about this energy if it is not used for construction or destruction purposes than for what this energy would be used hence it is wastage . this wastage is also a sort of destruction , destruction of itself like sucide . and in my opinion the exact equation for the pure energy can not be given . because it may vary with continous variable parameter with ten dimensions or ten variable parmeters without any fixed trend of variation . hence please comment further FOR my opinion too. further quieris are even if(Suppose ) the Einestien's energy equation is assumed to be for pure energy than 1. how would you keep mass constant 2. the c may also be c+a or c-a . how would you keep it only c . please share . thanks HARE KRISHNA ,HARE KRISHAN ,KRISHNA KRISHNA ,HARE HARE ,HARE RAMA ,HARE RAMA ,.RAMA RAMA ,HARE HARE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 , " jitendra kumar " <jtin_ja wrote: Dear Jitendra Kumarji, Namaste! Just for your information Shuksham sharir is referred in english as ASTRAL BODY and it is CAUSAL BODY and not casual body which is Karan sharir in Hindi language. With warm wishes, Sudhakar HARI OM TAT SAT! Cheers! ) > HARE KRISHNA ,HARE RAMA > > > > MASS: This Mass (m) should not be understood as the Mass of the > Sadhak's Body. If it was so, then a Fat Sadhak shall produce more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 Dear Jithuji and others Pranams. As I have pointed out earlier , all mathemaics and physics formulae can not be translated verbatim while explaining 'super natural " phenomena or effects.. Mass in effect is not proportianal to wt in kilograms/pounds. Mass also is a function of Kundalini Shakti of a person and its awakening varies in different individualas based on their status of arousal . Mass moving spiritually at an indefinite yogic speed is altered little in individuals . Anything mulipled by INFINITE is " more than infinite " This neutralises any body weight to a consant.. Physics /physiolog/psychology are sciencs of accuracy. More about " SOUL ENERGY " in next mail OM NAMO NARAYANAYA. Yours sincerely ijswamy jitendra kumar <jtin_ja wrote: HARE KRISHNA ,HARE RAMA > MASS: This Mass (m) should not be understood as the Mass of the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 1. Why to keep Mass constant? Only the Physical Mass remains constant. During Sadhana, which is attained thru ASANA SIDDHI. 2. To attain the SPECIFIED SPEED of c x c, thru EKATGRACHITTA MAAN. jitendra kumar <jtin_ja wrote: HARE KRISHNA ,HARE RAMA > MASS: This Mass (m) should not be understood as the Mass of the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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