Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 In last few years the population of earth has exploded. From few hundred millions people 100s of years ago, it is now more than 6 billion. So where did all the extra souls come from to take birth? And why is there such an explosion in number of births in last 100-200 years? S Kumar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 Where are the other species/animals, we have killed most of them or they have become extinct and all those souls have born as human beings! Hence, overall the number is same, animals or humans. , s_kumar_12345 <no_reply wrote: > > In last few years the population of earth has exploded. From few > hundred millions people 100s of years ago, it is now more than 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 , s_kumar_12345 <no_reply wrote:> Dear S kumar ji, Namaste! I hope you know before we got human birth we have travelled through 84 lakhs yonis. From amoeba to whale in water and from ant to elephant on land. The population explosion you see is not new souls but all these creatures have evolved to reach in Kali Yuga for human birth. It is not something new or extra ordinary. Do you know how many mosquitoes are there and there life span is small. They evolve and in the turn of the cycle many have graduated to human level. Hope this clarifies your doubt. Ofcourse i have not taken minerals and trees who are also evolving. With warm wishes, Sudhakar HARI OM TAT SAT! Cheers! ) > In last few years the population of earth has exploded. From few > hundred millions people 100s of years ago, it is now more than 6 billion. > > So where did all the extra souls come from to take birth? And why is > there such an explosion in number of births in last 100-200 years? > > S Kumar > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 Kumarji and other Saadhaks , During the last 100 years ,many bacteria,parasites,marine microbes became extinct. They supplied souls which got promoted as humans.Discovery of antibiotics and pesticides is the cause. Just my thought.Babaji and Shantnu will give a better reply. ijswamy s_kumar_12345 <no_reply > wrote: In last few years the population of earth has exploded. From few hundred millions people 100s of years ago, it is now more than 6 billion. So where did all the extra souls come from to take birth? And why is there such an explosion in number of births in last 100-200 years? S Kumar ~SWAMY http://gjnanaswarup.spaces.live.com/blog/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2008 Report Share Posted April 22, 2008 , s_kumar_12345 <no_reply wrote: > > In last few years the population of earth has exploded. From few the soul/self is infinite in its expressions and eternal by nature there is the one self reflected as many Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Blessed Selves! Since man in Kali Yuga nurtures a multitude of desires and beset with longings for fulfillment of these desires, could it be possible, in order that he works out these desires, in the shortest possible time through the splitting of his consciousness in different lives simultaneously, which otherwise might drag him on for as many births as the number of desires will take for him individually? I draw inference for this possibility from the fact that even Lord Vishnu's avatars like Sri Ramachandra Murthy and Parasuram were contemporaries and it is said that Lakshmana also had the characteristics of Lord Vishnu. Similarly Lord Krishna and Balarama, the great yadava princes are said to be the avatars of Lord Vishnu. If so, is it not possible for the human soul, to take more than one lives simultanously, to wipe out their karma? Hari Om tat sat. ulaganathan p " J.SWAMY IRAGAVARAPU " <jiragavarapu wrote: Kumarji and other Saadhaks , During the last 100 years ,many Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 , ulaganathan p <apunathan wrote: > Since man in Kali Yuga nurtures a multitude of desires and beset > ulaganathanji has got I think the closest answer. Our physical body & astral body are destroyed with death- only the Causal body remains. There is no rule that the causal body only has to create one astral/physical body. Since the causal body is made of conciousness(Chit) and bliss(anand), & is purely Sattvic, it has lot of freedom & power-almost as powerful as God(there are subtle differences, but from our point of view those differences are negligible). The causal body just selects a host of Karma to create a body, & just visualises their completion. It doesnt plan that it will create a body that will be born in India & will marry such & such person, get this job etc. This is what many people think happens, but all this planning etc is of the mind, & the causal body is far behind the mind. Instead, the causal body just releases a bunch of karma, & it is Prakriti(Mother Nature) that decides how best to work out that Karma. In Kaliyug, since people have infinite desires, the causal body may create more than 1 body to work out its karma. It may even create 1 human & 1 animal body to work out its lower karma. Another reason maybe- all the souls of last Kaliyug that couldnt get moksha, are being born now to fulfil their Karma. These are miserable souls with very violent natures, which is why there is so much misery in the world. Such souls arent allowed to be born in other ages, so they all come in Kaliyug. Another reason maybe that as people of Kaliyug are very materialistic, they immediately take birth, & spend no time in the astral worlds. Their earthly desires are so strong that they can never leave Earths orbit to enter the astral heavens- they keep being reborn again & again on physical earth. It might take them thousands of years to realise there is no happiness, by which time Kaliyug will be over & they will have to wait for next Kaliyug. Finally, there is no rule that only souls of our Earth can be born here- acc. to Hinduism there are millions of universes/planets, & any soul can be born anywhere. So if we have Kaliyug here, another planet may have Satyug, & good souls of our Earth may choose to be born there. Similarly, their evil souls may have to take birth here. Its very complicated, as we can see, & there is no one final factor that can decide everything. love Shantnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Swamiji & Sudhakarki, your point regards all the animals/creatures being killed by humans taking human birth is good. So then do all creatures killed by man get a chance to become human, or only those closest us, ie mammals like monkeys, cows dogs etc? shantnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 , " marcus4912 " <trudy.axel wrote: > the soul/self is infinite in its expressions and eternal by nature > there is the one self reflected as many So Marcusji, who decides how many " reflections " of the one true self there will be at any one time in the manifest world? love Shantnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 , shanracer <no_reply wrote: Dear Shantanuji, Namaste! Only mamals get a chance of human birth. If i kill a mosquito or ant it will not become a human but evolve to its next line in rebirth. I am sure you must have read or heard a story about Lord Vishnu telling Narada to visit a place where by seeing him the parrot dies. He is then directed to another place where the calf of the cow dies on seeing him. Lastly he is directed to another place where a woman gives birth to a boy and this child then explains how it from parrot to calf to human being it evolved fast because of seeing Naradji or rather the vibes of Naradji. With warm wishes, Sudhakar HARI OM TAT SAT! Cheers! ) > Swamiji & Sudhakarki, your point regards all the animals/creatures > being killed by humans taking human birth is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 , shanracer <no_reply wrote: > > So Marcusji, who decides how many " reflections " of the one true self > there will be at any one time in the manifest world? as i understand it the " being " who decides the quantum of indivdaul refections isnt a being but the culmanation of individaul and full planet karma a natral process,so its not a dicision, its an effect. now the question i think to myself now is what is the original cause of this snowballing effect, is it what universal existence is/does as a manifest being the same way a fish's nature is to swim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 > the question i think to myself now is what is the original cause of > this snowballing effect, is it what universal existence is/does as a > manifest being the same way a fish's nature is to swim So where do you think this chain of Karmic cause & effect starts? Is it some original Being, a Pure Spirit? If so, what does he have to gain by it? Or is it an unexplainable Void? If so, where did the seeds of manifestation come from in the Void? Does that mean there is something behind the Void? love Shantnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2008 Report Share Posted April 24, 2008 , shanracer <no_reply wrote: > So where do you think this chain of Karmic cause & effect starts? first there was om(Brahman) the vibration and in the end there is om the vibration so the logical way for one to understand something that is the start, the finish we must maintain that also the middle must be om.understand that om is the self and exists in the three periods start middle and end as a vibration unbroken that is eternal the om being much like a screen in a cinema(Brahman/self) that is untouched by the film(earthly life) that is projected upon it and when the film is finished it remains untouched ,pure,but due to defects within the mind(ignorance and wrong thinking)we can only understand or comprehend a start, middle and end where as the reality is an unbroken stream of oneness > om namo narayana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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