Guest guest Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 This is a nice explanation from another group. venkat asthikasamaj, Kris Krishnan <kriskrishnan wrote: Venkatji http://www.ramanuja.org/purusha/sukta-3.html From the attached translation you will see that Sloka 7 needs to be read in conjunction with the verses that follow: Verse 7 saptAsyA san paridaya: | tri: sapta: samida: krtA: | deva yad yajnam tanvAnA: | abadhnan purusham paSum || 7 || (asya) For this sacrifice (sapta) seven were (paridaya:) the sheathing logs, the fences. (tri:sapta) Thrice-seven, that is twenty one (samida:) the samit-wood firebrands (krtA:) made, (yad yajnam) for the sacrifice for which (devA:) the gods as (tanvAnA:) as performers of the sacrifice (abadhnan) bound (purusham) the purusha (paSum) as the beast of sacrifice. The yAgAgni, the sacred fire of the sacrifice, is invoked on a vedi, or altar, that is always sheathed, or fenced. sAyaNA gives us this: ``aishTikasyAvAhavanIyasya traya: paridaya: uttaravedikAstraya: AdityaSca saptama: paridhi pratinidhi rUpa:''. Three fences are in the uttaravedi part, three in the AvAhanIya, and Aditya is the seventh sheath, or fence. Nothing had been created at this point. So what were the paridi-s? The seven chandas-s, or metres, gAyatri, trishTup, brhatee, pankti, ushNuk, anushtup, and jagatI may be the seven here. However, later verses would seem to go against this hypothesis. The chandas-s seem to be later creations, as the basis of speech. The maitrAyaNi upanishad suggests prthvi (earth), ap (water), tejas (fire), vAyu ( air), AkASa (space), ahamkAra (ego), and buddhi (intellect) as these seven. The five elements or panchabhUtas among these, (prthvi, ap, tejas, vAyu, AkASa), along with the five subtle principles or tanmAtras, the five active senses or karmendriyas, the five discerning senses or jnAnendriyas, combined with anta:karaNam, darkening, are said to be the twenty one samit firebrands, in the painkI brAhmaNa. Seven were the fencing logs Thrice seven the firebrands made When the gods bound the Purusha As the beast for their sacrifice. Verse 8 tam yajnam barhishi prokshan | purusham jAtam agrata: | tena devA ayajanta | sAdhyA RshayaS ca ye || 8 || (tam) That (purusham) purusha (yajnam) of the sacrifice, (jAtam) who was (agrata:) in the beginning, (sAdhyA:) those achievers (prokshan) sprinkled him with holy water (barhishi) on the sacrificial bed of straw. (tena) By this means (devA RshayaS ca) did the gods and the seers (ye) who where, (ayajanta) sacrifice. Here is the Purusha himself bound as the beast of sacrifice. This beast has to be sanctificed, on a sacred bed of straw, with holy water. The word barhis indicates this straw. According to the Yogaratna, virAt (the all), barhis and prakriti are synonyms. In this sense, all of nature is the stage for this sacrifice, and Purusha the sacrifice to be offered. He was firstborn and foremost of creation. The word sAdhyA: according to Ranganathamuni includes all devas, RSHis, suras, and dwellers of Vaikuntha. However, in other places, it has been interpreted to mean something like an analogue to ``bodhisattva'' -- those who have the potential of freedom from time, but have not yet actually achieved it. In the sense that SAdhyam indicates possibility of achievement, I tend towards this view. Him, firstborn of all of this The sanctified, on a bed of straw By Him did the seers, Those great ones, By Him did the gods too Sacrifice. Verse 9 tasmAd yajnAt sarvahuta: | sambhRtam prshadAjyam | pashUGs tAGS cakre vAyavyAn | AraNyAn grAmyAs ca ye || 8 || (tasmAt) From that (yajnAt) rite (sarvahuta:) called sarvahut (sambhrtam) was gathered (prshad-Ajyam) ghee mixed with yogurt. From this (cakre) were created (pashoon) beasts, (vAyavyAn) denizens of the air, (AraNyAn) denizens of the woods, (grAmyAn) and denizens of the villages. There is no holding back in the sRshTi yajna, it is ``sarva-hut'', the offering of all. At yajnas, what is called by sources like Renou and LeMee as ``the clotted fat'' or ``the oil of the sacrifice'', curds mixed with ghee (clarified butter) was collected. Ranganathamuni is of the opinion that for this yajna, the prshadAjyam was ``potency'' of wondrous hue (prANijanana hetu-bhUtam vicitravarNam jagatkAraNa hetu bhUtam vIryam prshadAjyam bhavati) --- appearing as a means by which animals might be born, of wondrous hue, a potency that appeared as a means of the cause of the world --- this was the prshadAjyam, the seed of all creation. The exact synonym of semen, retas, is not mentioned, but I think that in this case we may safely assume this is what is meant. With this did Brahma create the birds, and wild and tame animals. From that offering Of all was drawn The wondrous seed Of all creation With that did He Give forms to all, birds and beasts Of field and forest. Verse 10 tasmAd yajnAt sarvahuta: | Rca: sAmAni jajnire | chandAGMsi jajnire tasmAt | yajus tasmAd ajAyanta || 9 || (tasmAt yajnAt sarvahuta:) From that Sarvahut rite (Rca:) the Rg veda mantras and (sAmAni) sAma veda mantras (jagnyire) were got. FRom that did (chandAmsi) did the metres too (jagnyire) come forth. (tasmAt) From that were (yaju:) the yajur veda mantras (ajayata) born. sAyaNa gives this derivation for sarvahut: ``sarvAtmaka puruSHo yasmin yajne hooyate so ayam sarvahuta:'' -- that yajna in which Purusha, the soul of all, is offered as sacrifice, that rite is sarvahut. Of the Vedas, the Rg concerns itself with recited hymns, in praise of nature and its deities, such as Agni, Indra, the Adityass,the Maruts, and so on. The sAma chants are those of song, the basis of music. Yajus, the Veda of the adhvaryu priests, is that of the methods, and formulas for the rite. Along with these comes forth chandas, the metre or rhythm of hymning. From that rite Of the giving of All, Did the recited hymns And the sung come forth And from that came The poetic metre And from that arose The ritual hymns. Verse 11 tasmAdashvA ajAyanta | ye ke cobhayAdata: | gAvoham jagnyire tasmAt | tasmajjatA ajAvaya: || 10 || (tasmAd) From that (ajAyanta) were born (asvA:) horses, and beings with (eke ca) only one and (ubhayAdata:) two rows of teeth. (gAva:) Cattle (jagnyire) were made (tasmAt) from that. (tasmAt) From that (jAta) were born (ajA:) goats and (Avaya:) sheep. The most common interpretation I have seen for ``ye ke cobhayAdata'' is all animals with two rows of teeth. The one here, I have seen only in aNNa's Tamil translation. However, it appeals to me as innately right. As for animals with one row of teeth, I cannot think of any except whales with their baleen. Someone with a better knowledge of zoological orthodonty may be able to help me here =). All the animals specifically mentioned here, presumably had been tamed, and were counted as wealth in Rg Vedic society. From that were born stately horses Beasts with one and two rows of teeth Cattle too, were born thereof And goats and sheep with them created. FHRS_USA CC: hinducivilization ; asthikasamaj; nithyakalyan apexpreci2000 Sun, 30 Dec 2007 19:32:31 +0530 [asthikasamaj] What is a yagnya cow ? Jai Sri Ram Priya members, I happened to study the Purusha suktham (Rig Veda 10.8.90)recently. In it , sloka 7 reads thus. saptAsyAsan paridhaya: | tri: sama samidha: krutA:|devA yadyagnyam tanvAna: | abadhnan purusham pasum | " For this yagnya the pancha bhootas and the day and night became seven margin lines of the yagnya. The twenty one thatvas became the samidh( the sticks used for yagnya). The devas started the yagnya and tied Lord Brahma as the yagnya cow. " Now, my question is- What is a yagnya cow ? Is it for sacrifice or just for its sacred presence ? Do any of you have any idea? 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