Guest guest Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 I am reposting this post I wrote some time ago: Namashkar, Sometime ago I had posted on the Esoteric Ramayan- Mahabharat also has a esoteric element hidden in it... It requires some knowledge of Mahabharats story. Shantnu is the Parabrahm, the Supreme beyond. He has 2 wifes- the 1st is Ganga who is pure Conciousness Shakti-or the Adi Shakti. This Adi Shakti has 8 children. 1st 6 are powers of the 3 worlds(Causal, AStral & Physical)- for both the Universe level & individual level. 7th is Universal spirit or Kutashta Chaitnya. These 7 children are hidden from normal people, or " drowned " by Ganga as in the story. The 8th child is the Universal Ego, or Bhishma. Bhisma is the reflection of the Universal spirit. He is not to be confused with our petty egos- the Universal Ego or Bhisma is noble & pure, & has little interest in our physical world(accordingly, Bhisma renounces his throne). Satyavati is the 2nd wife of Shantnu, & is the Primodial nature, or matter. Her 1st son is Vyas, Pure discriminating intelligence, who is hidden. Her other 2 sons are Chitragadha or 1st element, who dies early, as the 1st element in nature(these are Sankhya elements) breaks into its parts. 2nd is Vichitraviyra, the Divine Ego. Vichitravirya has 2 wives-Ambika(negative doubt) & Ambalika, positive power of discrimimation. Vichitravirya dies early, as the Divine ego cant survive contact with physical matter. So Vyas, or pure discrimination & conciousness, is brought to sire 2 children. From Ambika, or doubt, he sires Dhritrashtra, or the blind sense mind, blind as it lacks power o discrimination. Thru Ambalika is sired Pandu, or Buddhi, which is power of wisdom & discrimination. Dhritrashtra, or blind sense mind, marries Gandhari, or power of desires, & has 100 children- the 10 sense organs * 10 Mahabhuta. Their chief is Duryodhan, who represents worst qualities of blind mind- ego, anger , vanity etc. Pandu, or Buddhi, marries Kunti(or power of dispassion) & Madri(power of attachment to dispassion). With them he has 5 children- who are the 5 elements, or 5 Chakras of our body- Yudhistra or Ether element(Akash)-the Vishudhi Chakra, Bhima or Air element(Pran) -the Anahat Chakra, Arjun or Fire element(Agni) -the Manipur Chakra, Nakula or Water element(Ap) -the Swadhistan chakra, & finally, Sahadev -the Earth element(Prithvi) Muladhar Chakra. These 5 brothers have 1 wife- Draupadi or Kundalni Shakti. She spends time with each brother, & has a son with each(the spiriutal powers of each chakra). The Pandavs are defeated in the game of dice, which is the game of Maya or illusion we can never win. They are then kicked out of their kingdom(or the body) & the evil tendencies then rule. Then have to wander for 12 years, which is the time many Yogis say it takes a man to achieve expertise in Sadhna. The 13th year is spent in disguise, or when the Sadhaks takes Samadhi, & is lost to bliss & outside world. Then these positive forces return to the bodily kingdom, but the -ve forces(ego, arrogance, hatred etc) refuse to share even a part of the kingdom. So with the help of Krishna, the Divine Guru or his representative, the +ve forces prepare for battle... To be continued.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 , shanracer <no_reply wrote: Dear Shantanuji, Namaste! That was brilliant. Hope in future when you find time you give esoteric meaning of Ramayan as well. Meantime i find one missing link and that is Vyas sired Dhirtrashtra and Pandu but what about Dasi putra Vidura. You have not mentioned anything about him. Could you throw some light on that please. With warm regards, Sudhakar HARI OM TAT SAT! Cheers! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 > That was brilliant. Hope in future when you find time you give Esoteric Ramayan is there too- Message #12134. Vidur- there are several explanations. One is that Vidur is the equivalent of Mind born sons of Brahma, who help him in running the world, but cannot directly interfere. Vidur was pure energy of Vyas(or Pure discrimanting intelligence), as his mother wasnt afraid of Vyas. So like the mind born sons of Brahma, he had full wisdom from birth, with which he tried to help others, but they didnt always listen to him. Vidur was a pure soul- he was one of only 3 who saw Krishna in his Viraat form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2007 Report Share Posted October 27, 2007 , shanracer <no_reply wrote: > > > That was brilliant. Hope in future when you find time you give Dear Shantanu, Namaste! The explanation was interesting. Vidur's mother was not afraid of sage Vyas therefore she conceived Vidur born gyaani while the other two were scared of vyas therefore one begot blind son and other pandu (anemic) right? With warm wishes, Sudhakar HARI OM TAT SAT! Cheers! ) > > Esoteric Ramayan is there too- Message #12134. > > Vidur- there are several explanations. One is that Vidur is the > equivalent of Mind born sons of Brahma, who help him in running the > world, but cannot directly interfere. > > Vidur was pure energy of Vyas(or Pure discrimanting intelligence), as > his mother wasnt afraid of Vyas. So like the mind born sons of Brahma, > he had full wisdom from birth, with which he tried to help others, but > they didnt always listen to him. > > Vidur was a pure soul- he was one of only 3 who saw Krishna in his > Viraat form. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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