The 4 main forms of the Divine Mother

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In addition to the numerous Godesses, Saptashati talks about 3 more-

Mahakali, Mahaluxmi & Mahasaraswati. These are different from

Kali(Parvati), Luxmi & Saraswati.

 

So for example Luxmi is Goddess of wealth, but not Mahaluxmi, who

doesnt care about such small things, but works at universal level.

 

Saptashati doesnt say much about these 3 main Devis, except briefly.

 

Sri Aurobindo, whose knowledge came from practical realisation, has

written in detail on these Devis. In addition to the 3, he adds a 4th-

Maheshwari. Sri Aurobindo said that actually there is just 1 Adi

Shakti, but she moves so fast & in such complex ways that even the

Gods cant understand what shes doing. So they see her as 4 Devis(to

understand her working)- Maheshwari,Mahakali, Mahaluxmi & Mahasaraswati.

 

Normal humans cant even understand these Devis, so they divide them

into the hundreds we know & worship.

 

 

1. Maheshwari- She is the queen who sits high above the thinking mind,

& opens mind to a greatness far above it. She is always tranquil, as

she always knows everything, she understands all forces & shaktis that

move the universe & its laws.

 

She is patient, equal to all, & deals with everyone according to their

nature. To the wise she gives wisdom. To the evil, she imposes

consequences. The ignorant, ordinary people, she leads them according

to their blindness.

 

She is above all, bound by nothing, having no attachments. But she has

the heart of a Mother, & loves all, even demons. But her love is not

blind, & it never blinds her wisdom & love for truth.

 

2. Mahakali- She represents the force & strength of the Divine. She is

intolerant of imprefection, & deals with falsehood & ignorance with

violence & ruthlessness. She deals roughly with anything in our

nature that is not open to the Divine plan.

 

When she is allowed to intervene in force, she breaks down barriers in

a day which would have taken centuries. She is worshipped by the

brave & the noble, who feel her blows straighten out their flaws.

 

Without Her, the universe would be a boring place, where no change

would happen. Mahakali forces perfection & beauty on it.

 

3. Mahaluxmi- The violence of Mahakali allows Mahaluxmi to appear. She

represnts Harmony, Beauty & Love of the Divine. She gives bliss, love,

happiness & peace.

 

But it is not easy to meet her demands. She wants perfection in all

our actions- inner & outwards. All that is hateful, violent & base

must go. Selfishness, jealousy, envy , greed are like poison to her.

So are harsh asceticism & coldness. Unlike Mahakali, she simply

leaves, only to return when beauty & harmony have returned to our

lives. Not only our actions, but thoughts & feelings must be in

harmony for her to appear.

 

4. Mahasarawati- She is the power of work, she is the most skilful.

Maheshwari lays down large designs, but it is Mahasaraswati that works

out the details. She is the tireless, efficient organiser,

administrator & technician. Nothing is too small or trivial for her

attention.

 

She works & reworks till she she achieves complete perfection. She

abhors carelessness & hastiness.

 

Of all the Devis, she is the most patient, suffering our flaws with a

smile, she is never discouraged, & is willing to spend an eternity to

bring perfection to every part of our being.

 

These 4 Devis work at the Universal level, & also at the level of each

Sadhak, taking each Sadhak slowly towards God.

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> But she has the heart of a Mother, & loves all,

>

> 2. Mahakali- She represents the force & strength of the Divine

> These 4 Devis work at the Universal level

thanks Shantanu . This is an extremely beautiful eulogy

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, shanracer <no_reply wrote:

>

> In addition to the numerous Godesses, Saptashati talks about 3

more-

> Mahakali, Mahaluxmi & Mahasaraswati. These are different from

> Kali(Parvati), Luxmi & Saraswati.

>

 

This is wonderful shantnu. This shows how the energies work in the

Cosmos and how we are lead towards perfection.

 

Not on the same lines but there are another Four forms of Adi-

shakti. These are :-

 

1- Ichhaa Shakti

2- Yogmaya

3- Mahamaya

4- Maya.

 

There four forms keep the cosmos going and arrange Moksha for

sadhakas, or keep them entangled in the web of maya.

 

1- Ichhaa shakti - This is really the Adi-shakti which is the desire

of Shiv to manifest the universe....after this shakti separates from

shiva...shiva does not do anything. all is initiated by Ichha

shakti. this shakti creates a subtle picture of the universe with

the nod of shiva.

 

2- Yogmaya - If Shiva is the writer, Ichaa-shakti is pen and the ink

& drawing is Yogmaya. what ever subtle form of universe is thought

by Ichha shakti, yogmaya puts that thought into practical universe.

 

3- Mahamaya & Maya - The universe is divided into 2 clear worlds...

Triguna and Trigunateet. ... one which is under three gunas and one

which is beyond the three gunas. Yogmaya works in these two worlds

through Mahamaya and Maya. Mahamaya takes care of the world beyond

three gunas and Maya takes care of the worlds which are still under

3 gunas.

 

thus Maya works on all Nature, all living beings, all asuras and

devas...Mahamaya works on trinity, siddhas and rishis. Yogmaya is

beyond all manifested universe.

 

Ichha shakti directly controls Yogmaya and Yogmaya controls

Mahamaya and Maya directly. Mahamaya and Maya do not know beyond

Yogmaya...for them Yogmaya is the boss.

 

In other words we can say The owner of the house is

Shiva...Architect who works under guidance of owner is Ichha

shakti. the House is Yogmaya. There are two rooms in the house in

which two women live and rule...they are MahaMaya and Maya.

 

Mahamaya has the secret of re-birth and marriage...maya does not

know about these two things. Secret of Death and life is also with

Mahamaya.

 

From Agya chakra to Sahasrachakra is the domain of Mahamaya and

all chakras below Agya chakra are domain of Maya.

 

The center of sahasrdhara is the domain of Ichha-shakti...beyond

which is Shiv-Tattwa.

 

so shanracer, do you feel any similarity of these 4 forms with

those 4 which u told ?

 

 

 

Aum Shri Chamundaye Namah

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I believe that the only 4 forms of the Divine mother are

 

Mother,

 

Wife,

 

Sister

 

and

 

Daughter.

 

Regards,

 

DeLight

 

 

 

 

Aum <beirut_ka_baba wrote:

, shanracer <no_reply wrote:

>

> In addition to the numerous Godesses, Saptashati talks about 3

more-

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RAM RAM

 

Triguna and Trigunateet. ... one which is under three gunas and one

> which is beyond the three gunas. Yogmaya works in these two

worlds

 

>SIMPLY GREAT Shantanu Sir and AUM Sir for the explanation of Devi's.

 

AUM Sir on the topic for maya ,really great . i was searching that .

 

but as ususal one question came to my mind But sometimes i feel

people gets angry with my questions ,so i do not collect the courage

to ask questions . sorry for that , if someone feel angry because it

is not good for me to make someone ..... please forgive me ...please

 

when God takes birth on the earth ,then what is your opinion the

Lord remains under three gunas or not. if you say yes then i think

Mahamaya is also not free from gunas. what is your opinion Sir ji .

 

HARE KRISHNA ,HARE KRISHNA , KRISNA KRISHNA ,HARE HARE,HARE

RAMA ,HARE RAMA ,RAMA RAMA ,HARE HARE

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Om Namah Shivaya.

 

Dear BabaJi, ShantanuJi,

Pranam.

 

Its also said DEVI is represented in the form of 64 YOGINIS. Could you

pls let us know about this.

 

Thanks.

Shivaya Namah Aum.

Thiruchitrambalam.

Senthil.

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, " jitendra kumar " <jtin_ja

wrote:

>

> when God takes birth on the earth ,then what is your opinion the

> Lord remains under three gunas or not. if you say yes then i think

> Mahamaya is also not free from gunas. what is your opinion Sir ji .

 

 

Dear Jitinder, when god incarnates, he pre-selects the work,

the gunas and the karmas for that incarnation...but none of them

bind him.

 

God even as Avtaar remains beyond gunas and karmas. they can

not control and bind them. Rather God uses karmas and gunas as

tools to fulfil the purpose of his avtarhood.

 

Three gunas, and five elements are qualities of Maya, and she

works with them. Any soul under five elements and 3 gunas is subject

to Maya.....which God is not.

 

In Geeta shri krishna tells - I control my Yogmaya and take

birth as human beings.... it clearly indicates God is above Mahamaya

and Yogmaya too. Yogmaya is also under god.

 

Did this answer your question ?

 

 

AUM

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> when God takes birth on the earth ,then what is your opinion the

> Lord remains under three gunas or not. if you say yes then i think

> Mahamaya is also not free from gunas. what is your opinion Sir ji .

>

> Lord Krishna says -i use my saatvik prakriti and take avtaara.But he

is never under control of gunas.Prakriti/nature never controls him

>

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> Dear Jitinder, when god incarnates, he pre-selects the work,

> the gunas and the karmas for that incarnation...but none of them

> bind him.

Yes AUM Sir and Aradhana ji

thanks for answer

 

, my confusion was just because of the same statement of Srimad

Bhagwad Geeta and Maya concept what i understood.

 

Yog maya in fact is cretaed by the God Himself , but God has to

control first for taking the Birth ,because Yog Maya is bound to

follow certain laws ,even God Has to follow laws of Yogmaya if he

comes under the territary of Yog maya perhaps that is why the Lord

has to control yogmaya first. you have beautifully explained Sir.

 

1.

 

still in fact Sir ji i think any kind of Maya is not free from three

gunas and 5 elements as you also wrote . Hence Mahamaya should

also be subjected to gunas , may be pure gunas as you wrote in last

articles. what is your opinion Sir ji. and God is entirely away from

these gunas

 

aap kya kehte hain Sir ji . please write something , i want to know

more and more about Mahamaya , if you have some more material please

Sir.ALSO I REQUEST TO ALL MEMBERS PLEASE give some opinion , so that

we can reach to the truth .

 

2.

 

if you say Sir that Yog Maya is the part of prakrit then prakrit

would be subjected to gunas .what do you think

 

 

 

HARE KRISHNA , HARE KRISHNA ,KRISHNA KRISHNA ,HARE HARE,HARE

RAMA ,HARE RAMA ,RAMA RAMA ,HARE HARE

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, " Senthil " <senthil_sym wrote:

>

> Its also said DEVI is represented in the form of 64 YOGINIS. Could

you

 

 

Dear senthil, normally people understand 64 yoginis as 8

manifestations of each of 8 forms of Mother. Yogini's details are

very secret and no one actually have correct information about

them. what ever we find on net and in books is just vague and

sometimes incorrect.

 

I personally feel that 64 yoginis are the lower forces of 10

Mahavidyas. These yoginis are created by Mahavidyas to carry out

their jobs in the universe. Yoginis kill, make love, put persons in

Moha, bring greed, destroy the enemies and thus keep the Jeeva

entangled in the web of maya.

 

Yoginis can be called one pointed viveka-blinded forces of

mahavidyas. Worship of Yogini was very famous in medival Indian.

Hindu Tantriks were experts in Yogini siddhis and enjoyed the

siddhis. Buddhists also worshipped Yoginis in the name of Dakinis.

 

Yoginis do not give siddhis without taking something from you in

return. Like the Yogini of Kamala can give wealth, but may demand

human sacrifice etc.

 

At that time, Tantriks forgot the Mahavidyas, forgot the Mother

aspect of Adi shakti, and were induldged in Yogini siddhis...and

that was the main reason, that Tantra was lost and these lower

tantriks were seen with fear and hate by common public.

 

Mahavidyas work through yoginis, so worshipping a particular

Mahavidya as Mother saves us from her yoginis.

 

Mahavidays can give Moksha but Yoginis can not. Yogini subject

is almost lost and those who have it, keep it utmost secret and dont

give to anyone.

 

Let us pranam all 64 yoginis on this Navratra...not to gain any

siddhi but to worship their main Mahavidaya, who is behind them and

controlling them

 

Jai Chamundey maan

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, " jitendra kumar " <jtin_ja

wrote:

> gunas and 5 elements as you also wrote . Hence Mahamaya should

> also be subjected to gunas , may be pure gunas as you wrote in last

> articles. what is your opinion Sir ji. and God is entirely away

from

> these gunas

>>

> if you say Sir that Yog Maya is the part of prakrit then prakrit

> would be subjected to gunas .what do you think

>

>

>

> HARE KRISHNA , HARE KRISHNA ,KRISHNA KRISHNA ,HARE HARE,HARE

> RAMA ,HARE RAMA ,RAMA RAMA ,HARE HARE

>

 

 

Dear Jitinder, perhaps you have not read my post on Yogmaya and

Mahamaya properly. I never said Yog Maya is part of Prakriti. I

repeat here again the superiority of these shaktis

 

1- GOD (Krishna/Shiva)

 

2- Iccha shakti or Adi shakti - she plans the universe as per the

desire of God

 

3- Yogmaya - She works under the supervision of Ichha shakti and

creates Naad, bindu and cosmos.. and then manifests as Mahamaya and

Maya

 

4- Mahamaya - she is beyond 3 gunas and 5 elements....and controls

all siddhas, rishis and gods (not God)...like Indra Brahaspati

(higher devas).. she only knows the secret of birth, death and re-

incarnation and decides the marriages....and she does not let this

secret known to anyone under her.

 

5 - Maya - Maya works through 3 gunas, 5 elements and rules over all

living beings. Prakriti is a manifestation of Maya.

 

So that way God is beyond all and is one with his Ichha shakti

 

Aum

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I read this interesting thing just y'day which explained exactly what

Mahamaya is.

 

Most people are subject to Maya in her forms are Kal(limitation in

time), Raag(attraction to physical things), Avidya(limited

knowledge)etc & 3 gunas. Babaji has written about these elsewhere, so

I wont repeat it.

 

Certain Sadhaks reach a stage whereby they go beyond Maya & the 3

gunas, & they realise that everything is pure conciousness, pure

awareness. But they think that their awareness is all that is- there

is only indivudial awareness, nothing higher(except maybe a void).

People who belong to philosophies like Sankhya fall into this trap.

These people are called Vigynakals.

 

These Vigynakals are beyond Maya, beyond death, beyond gunas. But

since they think their conciousness is all, & there is nothing

higher(like God, Shiv, Narayan)- they are subject to Mahamaya. They

are like materialists who think physical world is all there is. Like

these materialists, Vigyanakals think their conciousness is all there

is, & fall under Mahamaya.

 

This is difference b/w Maya & Mahamaya.

 

love

Shantnu

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RAM RAM

 

Dear Jitinder, perhaps you have not read my post on Yogmaya and

> Mahamaya properly. I never said Yog Maya is part of Prakriti. I

> repeat here again the superiority of these shaktis

>

No sir , actually my english is poor , i had written if you say

Sir means if you assume . sorry for misunderstanding

 

but thanks for great answer . and now i am happy as it is clear

 

thanks once again

but where other people are gone

 

hamko rah main chodkar chale gaye.

 

could you please answer my other questions.

 

HARE KRISHNA ,HARE KRISHNA ,KRISHNA KRISHNA ,HARE HARE,HARE

RAMA ,HARE RAMA,RAMA RAMA ,HARE HARE

>

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> but where other people are gone

>

> hamko rah main chodkar chale gaye.

>

 

Dear jitendra sir,

 

I am quitely reading all the topics. I am more happy to read and to

get the blessings of devi through those writtings. I also see some

people missing. Since it's Navarathri, hope everyone is soo busy. so

just waiting for their writtings..

 

Sarvamaatha.