Why is Devi/Shakti more powerful

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Hi all,

I have a question for Babaji, Shanracerji & also others. Why is

Devi/Shakti considered to be more powerful than males, when from outward

appearance males are always stronger than womens??? I always used to believe

that for becoming powerful or acquiring strength one needs to worship male

dieties, but my notion was proved wrong as who ever i came across said that to

become powerful one needs to worship Devi or Shakti. I mean as Babaji said

" From Cave-men's days, women were not strong enough for hunting " .. even today

when you look at the Females & compare them physically to Mens, they are not

stronger.. Take any sport for example..like Cricket, Tennis, Boxing.... females

cannot challenge the men physically. Then why is it that to achieve strength or

become powerful one needs to worship Devi rather than any male diety??

Thanks & Regards..

 

Aum <beirut_ka_baba wrote: From

Cave-men's days, since women were not strong enough for

hunting hence they were asked to remain in the cave and look after

the children and serve the males, who returned tired from hunting.

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, Astro <astrologer212003 wrote:

 

Dear Sir,

 

Namaste!

 

Your observation is one sided i.e. you are seeing the physical

aspect only but what about emotional stability. For all his

physical prowess when the male returns home he curls up with his

wife or mother wherein he finds the emotional security.

 

Have you seen a man losing his wife in a sickness or accident and

then the male is shattered. He cannot cope up with the stark naked

reality of life but when a woman loses her husband she survives and

faces the life much much better than a male. I have seen old couples

when their wives die within a year or two or maybe three the male

also dies but when a husband dies the wife survives the ordeal and

lasts longer than the male.

 

Ultimately emotional strength is more stable and reliable.

Physical is ofcourse needed but emotionally woman are stronger

and therefore a man can always lean on her and survive the traumas

of life. It is rightly said behind every successful man is a woman -

maybe mother/wife/daughter/even grandmother.

 

Have you seen a pack of lions hunting. It is the female who does

all the hunting and then the stupid male lion comes and takes his

lions share and leaves crumbs for the remaining of the pack.

 

When Lord Krishna blesses Arjuna with strength of an ant, sexual

power of a sparrow and bravery of a woman - Arjuna questions the

lord on this strange blessing and ever a good teacher the lord

shows how swarm of ants can lift a dead elephant, and when it came

to sexual prowess of a sparrow he even showed Arjuna how long and

continuous the sparrow could carry on with the sexual act. Lastly

to prove the bravery of a woman he asks a man to kill his wife for

a bag of gold and the man refuses the tempting offer but when the

same offer is given to the wife she readily agrees to knock off her

husband. Arjuna bows down to the lord and accepts the blessings with

a big THANK YOU.

 

I think i have given enough proof why woman is superior. By the by

if you think that a male is superior in the house than you haven't

seen the guiles of a woman by showing herself an inferior she gets

all the things done through her husband though showing him that he

is the boss.

 

Before i end i saw a calendar with wordings as follows:-

GOD COULD NOT BE EVERYWHERE SO HE MADE MOTHER. I think this wraps

up everything.

 

Hope this satisfies your curiosity.

 

Warm regards

 

Sudhakar

HARI OM TAT SAT! Cheers! )

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RAM RAM

 

Dear Astro

 

the power of the emotional feeling of a man for women is greater than

his own power , though not necessarily . yedi isi bhawna ki nadi ki

disa badal di jaye to teeno lok beh sakte hain .

 

HARE KRISHNA ,HARE KRISHNA ,KRISHNA KRISHNA ,HARE HARE,HARE RAMA ,HARE

RAMA ,RAMA RAMA ,HARE HARE

[Guest guest]

> I think i have given enough proof why woman is superior. By the by

> if you think that a male is superior in the house than you haven't

> seen the guiles of a woman by showing herself an inferior she gets

> all the things done through her husband though showing him that he

> is the boss.

 

Thanks Sudhakar ji and Manbhakta ji for the very nice posts.

 

Sudhakar ji what you said was indeed very nice and wise but in the

above lines you are saying some thing similar to that which Kashyapa

said of Aditi. It is such things that lead to stereotyping of women as

decietful, full of guile, enchantress, desiring power etc. Such a woman

is someone who is devoid of honesty and wisdom. The woman endowed with

virtues is brave as u said, straight forward, not decieving but one who

imparts wisdom to her close ones, protects them from being mislead,

humble.She is the one who inculcates values in her children. The former

model of woman is to be rejected and the latter is to be followed

 

Besides I would like to add a pence to what Sudhakar ji, Jitendra and

Maanbhakta ji said. A woman must be having something extra and great

that God made her the mother. Woman is more than often able to

sacrifice ,forgive, love and dedicates herself more for her children or

family.Her forbearance is also usually greater.She is also less prone

to violence and cruelity. Among the both sexes , it is the woman who is

tranquil and gentler.Just see how many women these days are at the

notch of thier professions but seldom they are terrorists, dacoits etc

A woman also many times gives up herself and her intrests to care for

others. Many people these days see the house wife as a frail, dependent

creature. I dont think its an easy thing for anyone to give up thier

social activities and sense of independence to look after the family.

If a woman has such ability to sacrifice, care and such a sense of duty

I cant understand how she is seen as weak, less capable, subservient

etc Maybe God made her the mother and not the father because she has

these extra virtues and ability.Its a fact that a woman loves others

more than herself.They often say that no one has the heart that a

mother has.The one who goes against mother, father or Guru never gets

mukti ie liberation.

Those who see women as objects of sense gratification are fools

 

I hardly know anything from the scriptures but everything in this

material world is a reflection of the spiritual world so if the woman

or the mother here has all these virtues it really means that the

motherly side of God that is SHAKTI is more powerful and loving.Shakti

literally means God's power which is inseperable from God or Shiva.See

lord Rama and Sita maa both did and bore so much for the welfare of the

world but though they are both one and the same Sita maa is the example

of greater forbearance, suffering, sacrifice, love, nurture.She never

gave up Lord Rama or her children for anything even though Lord Rama

sent her to forest.Just because she is crying in the Ashoka Vatika as a

captive and doesnt wage the war with Ravana,it doesnt mean she is less

powerful than Rama .For example Shri Ram cries for Sita and Lord Shiva

says that it doesnt mean that he is not the parbrahmn himself.If Lord

Rama is the perfect example of a man then Ma Sita is perfect example of

a how a woman is or should be

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Dear,

 

basically in spirituality there are two differences

made by those who experinced it and made it simplified

for general people.

 

shiva & shakti are those two different names and

appearances of supreme god. Shiva is a complete form

and is closest form of supreme god, where are shakti

is also closest form of supreme god but has not in

completetion towards nirguna. For example an atom when

is chemically satisfied will remain in its state and

do nothing in the world, similarly an incomplete atom

can distruct the world an example is an atom bomb.

When the shiva is disturbed its change of form is

maya or shakti.

 

Shakti is always powerfull when material world is

there since it needs dynamics and chage every time,

when shiva status is required for nullification of

self realisation and liberation.

--- Astro <astrologer212003 wrote:

Why is Devi/Shakti considered to be

> more powerful than males, when from outward

> appearance males are always stronger than womens???

 

 

 

 

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--- " udaykumar S.K. " <udaykumar001 wrote:

 

> Dear,

>

> basically in spirituality there are two differences

> made by those who experinced it and made it

> simplified

> for general people.

>

> shiva & shakti are those two different names and

> appearances of supreme god. Shiva is a complete form

> and is closest form of supreme god, where are shakti

> is also closest form of supreme god but has not in

> completetion towards nirguna. For example an atom

> when

> is chemically satisfied will remain in its state and

> do nothing in the world, similarly an incomplete

> atom

> can distruct the world an example is an atom bomb.

> When the shiva is disturbed its change of form is

> maya or shakti.

>

> Shakti is always powerfull when material world is

> there since it needs dynamics and chage every time,

> when shiva status is required for nullification or

> self realisation and liberation.

 

Man and woman are just indicative differences , a man

can become shakti form or a woman can be shiva. It all

dependes on choice as well as deveoped personality by

births together.

> --- Astro <astrologer212003 wrote:

> Why is Devi/Shakti considered to be

> > more powerful than males, when from outward

> > appearance males are always stronger than

> womens???

>

>

>

>

>

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, " udaykumar S.K. " <udaykumar001

wrote:

>

> basically in spirituality there are two differences

> made by those who experinced it and made it simplified

> for general people.

>

 

Uday, this is true and well explained. will you further elaborate as

to why shakti is more powerful in material world ?

 

Also what are your views on Awareness ? this awareness is shakti or

shiva in us ?

 

love

 

Aum

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Jay Gurudev,

Thanks all for such a wonderful postings on this topic.

Aum/Baba ji your post on " Kalaas " in Tantra & why women is bestowed with another

half Kalaa is simply great. Thanks, once again

Regards

 

 

Aum <beirut_ka_baba wrote: --- In

, " udaykumar S.K. " <udaykumar001

wrote:

>

> basically in spirituality there are two differences

> made by those who experinced it and made it simplified

> for general people.

>

 

Uday, this is true and well explained. will you further elaborate as

to why shakti is more powerful in material world ?

 

Also what are your views on Awareness ? this awareness is shakti or

shiva in us ?

 

love

 

Aum

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Babaji,

I see like this,

 

shakti is dynamics and life needs dynamics. There isno

life without shakti.hence shakti is all powerfull in

material world than shiva.

 

Shiva status has supreme importance is spiritual

achievement and all world loses its dynamics in shiva.

Shakti is dynamic swaroopa of shiva.

 

When everything is silent and still, shiva is there

and when everything has momentum and dynamics, its

shakti.

 

shakti is maya and shiva is brahma.

 

The awareness for human is shiva status internally and

shakti status externally .Unless both ends meet

together the human will go nowhere.

 

> Uday, this is true and well explained. will you

> further elaborate as

> to why shakti is more powerful in material world ?

>

> Also what are your views on Awareness ? this

> awareness is shakti or

> shiva in us ?

>

> love

>

> Aum

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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, " udaykumar S.K. " <udaykumar001

wrote:

>

>

> When everything is silent and still, shiva is there

> and when everything has momentum and dynamics, its

> shakti.

 

Thanks Udai,

 

Will it be correct to say that there is no shiva tattwa.... it is

shakti in static form ? if so, what would be shiva tattwa..can we say

Shiva is anothr name for Shakti ?

 

Aum

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yes, I think we can say so.

 

In my views Its change of status.

 

--- Aum <beirut_ka_baba wrote:

 

 

> Will it be correct to say that there is no shiva

> tattwa.... it is

> shakti in static form ? if so, what would be shiva

> tattwa..can we say

> Shiva is anothr name for Shakti ?

>

> Aum

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Kundlini is sheer dynamics and said to be a shakti

going to meet shiva.

 

In other words shakti is getting transformed into

shiva.

 

--- " udaykumar S.K. " <udaykumar001 wrote:

 

> yes, I think we can say so.

>

> In my views Its change of status.

>

> --- Aum <beirut_ka_baba wrote:

>

>

> > Will it be correct to say that there is no

> shiva

> > tattwa.... it is

> > shakti in static form ? if so, what would be

> shiva

> > tattwa..can we say

> > Shiva is anothr name for Shakti ?

> >

> > Aum

> >

> >

>

>

>

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, " udaykumar S.K. " <udaykumar001

wrote:

>

> Kundlini is sheer dynamics and said to be a shakti

> going to meet shiva.

>

Dear uday, i tried to reply to yr msg 3 times and each time it

vanished....whereas my other msg appeared ....Is shakti angry with

me? LOL

 

Aum

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i also feel like that , LOL.

 

> Dear uday, i tried to reply to yr msg 3 times and

> each time it

> vanished....whereas my other msg appeared ....Is

> shakti angry with

> me? LOL

>

> Aum

>

>