Guest guest Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 In the Gita he says, " I am nobodys friend, neither am I anyones enemy. I do not hate, or love anyone " So how can we do Bhakti, if God is not our friend or enemy, just some neutral entity? S Kumar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 God is neither friend nor foe of anyone, BECAUSE " ANYONE " other than him does not exist. So, what speciality is in Devotee. See always god Is the shower of mercy, and when showing his mercy he is equal to everyone, and give his mercy as we ask. So if we ask for more mercy, he gives more. now The process of askign is what matters, We can ask in many ways, and in different quantities, How much quantity we can ask, is limited by our ability. So Baktha has a relation of Love with Lord, He is FOND of LORD, and hence love is infinite, quantity has no restrictions. Process of asking, there are many, but Bakthi i feel bext because we dont ask fro proof of his manifestation nor question him, and Readily accept him, in case of Bakthi. So it is best. third, Lord reciprocates, and is the one who is qwithout debts. Measn when Devotee Loves him, he loves his devotee, this is just reciprocation. When a devotee Resides himself in Lord, Lord Resides in Devotees Heart. So what happenns to Gnani, Gnani Resides in The Knowledge dwefined by Lord, and hence Lord For a Gnani Resides in the Knowledge he aqquires and so o0n .. So did you get though The Lord is equal in Mercy to all, how a devotee gets on the fast lane . Hoep my words have helped you my Dear Brother. -- Deito Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam. , s_kumar_12345 <no_reply wrote: > In the Gita he says, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 > So how can we do Bhakti, if God is not our friend or enemy, just >some neutral entity? Kumarji, It means God doesnt play favouritism, nor does he have enemies or take revenge. This is compared to Semitic religons, where they say God strikes down those who go against him. God is purely neutral- if we do Bhakti, or meditation, or do good Karma, he will give us result of that karma. If we do bad, we will get bad results. But God doesnt judge us. But we can never think that since we have started Bhakti, God will take care of all our problems- no. If our Tapas is strong, & we ask God for something, he will give it to us out of that Tapas, but not because we claim to be his greatest Bhaktas. Even though God is no ones friend, he can still have a special relationship to everyone, whereby he reciprocates the feeling we offer to him. Since God in Hinduism is our own Real Self, loving God means loving your own Real Self, not some outside entity. Since its the same Spirit(or God) in everyone- how can that Spirit take sides? love Shantnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 , shanracer <no_reply wrote: > > > > So how can we do Bhakti, if God is not our friend or enemy, just > >some neutral entity? > > > Kumarji, Shri Krishna has told here a great secret of cosmos. and it is specially for Bhaktas. I have seen some people doing bhakti and expecting god to reciprocate with all good in life. One of my relative became enemy of god when his young son died. Shri Krishna here wishes to say that People should not think that if they are doing bhakti, god will save them from bad karma results. God is silent spectator of this manifestion. He does not confer special favors to his bhaktas. We get the result of our own bad karma, and we can dilute them by our Tapas. God has nothing to do with our Karma. If god had wish to change karma of his bhaktas, Krishna' parents would not have been jailed. His best friends Pandavas would not have suffered so much, his sakhi Draupadi would not have been insulted in court. I would say rather, God brings out bad karma of his bhaktas and make them sufffer and thus be purified. Narad was his greatest bhakta, but vishnu gave him a monkey's face to go to a swayambara. God did not want Narad to be in domestic life and have a wife. For his benefit he gave him monkey face and all mocked at him Till we are not into Nirvikalpa samadhi, our karma's chain will continue binding us. We should not expect god to favor us and kill our enemies. In gita he gave this secret, when he told that he would not bring his army to fight Mahabharat on Pandava's side and he himself would not take up weapons. This is secret of Mahabharat!! God does not take weapons for his bhaktas. He just shows them the way by becoming their charioteer...but we have to fight our war ourselves under his guidance Aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 RAM RAM > > " I am nobodys friend, neither am I anyones enemy. I do not hate, or > love anyone " > > So how can we do Bhakti, if God is not our friend or enemy, just some > neutral entity? > it means i can make the Lord as my friend through Bhakti . HARE KRISHNA , HARE KRISHNA ,KRISHNA KRISHNA ,HARE HARE, HARE RAMA HARE RAMA ,RAMA RAMA ,HARE HARE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2007 Report Share Posted October 8, 2007 If in your heart you always think he is your friend, then he will also reciprocate the same. Just like arjuna did. Also Just like Kamsa did... he always thought Krishan to be his enemy, and Krishan manifested and made a leela as his enemy... but important is assosiation, all of them including kamsa was delivered. -- Deito Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam. , " jitendra kumar " <jtin_ja wrote: m > > > > " I am nobodys friend, neither am I anyones enemy. I do not hate, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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