Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Dear brothers & sisters A few years ago I went to see a kineseologist, who detected a blockage in my 2nd chakra swadhishtana. She helped m clear it & since then I do various chakra clearing techniques, in my hope to keep them clear. My question is, how do these blockages occur? Is this also what is known as 'granthis?' or are these just a certain kind of blockage? Are these blockages a bit like constipation, for example? Can they come & go? Or if we do regular chakra balancing, can we assume our chakras will be clear? What is the difference between a chakra being blocked & a chakra being damaged - & how would I know the difference? How would I be able to say 'this one is damaged' & 'this one is blocked?' With love as always Farah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 > A few years ago I went to see a kineseologist, who detected a blockage > in my 2nd chakra swadhishtana. She helped m clear it & since then I do > various chakra clearing techniques, in my hope to keep them clear. > Farahji, you have made the classic mistake, that almost every book Ive read(bar a notable few) makes- that of assuming the Chakras are linked to their physical counterparts. Most people read about Chakras in new age books, the authors of which never had a proper Guru, are sometimes hostile to concept of Guru. As such, most of their info is suspect. Even so called trained gurus make this unnecessary 1 to 1 relation between a chakra & an organ " Agya Chakra is related to Pineal gland " - no its not! Ive heard other statements like " his sex life is very good, he must have a very open sex chakra " or " She wasnt loved as a child, so her heart chakra is closed " . The 1st thing is, the Chakras proper, as part of Kundalni Tantra, are closed in everyone- & that means everyone. You have to open them with Sadhna, but they are closed by default. 2ndly, the chakras new agers talk about are the transmitters of Pran(or Chi, the life force) to the organs of the body. They are sort of gross counterparts of Kundalni Yoga chakras. These Pran Chakras are better called Marma in Ayurveda(Indian healing art). So when they say your Swadhistan was blocked, they meant the Marma, or Pranic energy center related to Swadhistan was closed. These Marma are needed for good functioning of body. These are the centers people talk about when they say " chakra is damaged or burst or blocked " . The actual Chakras are only opened by intense Sadhna. They are centers of conciousness, & lead to an expansion of awareness. So when the sex chakra opens, your sex life doesnt get better- you lose all interest in sex, & all other material things, as well as all your petty desires & behaviour stops. These Chakras, when they open, all give Siddhis as well. It might be things like being able to read others mind, predict future, talk to Astral beings etc. Not all Yogis want these Siddhis, so they dont waste time opening Chakras one by one, rather they conserve energy till in 1 blast they get full enlightenment. The granthis you are talking about keep the Kundalni from rising, & have to be broken along with Chakras being cleared. But this happens automatically in most sadhnas. love Shantnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 this is excellent and in very simple words, i liked this one.. but when i medidate i do not concentrate on any of these chakras , because of the siddhis, as i do not wish to have these... now my question to you is , even if i just do a formful meditation, still does these chakra's open or will it remain closed. -- Deito Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam. , shanracer <no_reply wrote: .. > > > > Farahji, you have made the classic mistake, that almost every book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 > now my question to you is , even if i just do a formful meditation, > still does these chakra's open or will it remain closed. Deitoji, if you are doing Bhakti, even then your Chakras will open. But instead of step by step Chakra opening, there will be one big blast, all Chakras will open, & you will get full darshan of God. In most Yogas(gyan, bhakti, karma), this process happens automatically, one doesnt have to make any effort to open Chakras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Is there a way to know which chakra need attention or is closed ? You say all chakras are closed by default, but those doing sadhna may have some chakras opened or partially opened ? How can we know which of our chakras is opened ? ansuya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 , shanracer <no_reply wrote: yes this is true. What ever sadhna we are doing...it finally leads to opening of chakras and movement of kundalini. Normally those into Bhakti have their heart chakra activated and expanded, and those into gyan have the same with Agya chakra. Agya chakra when activates and purifies..it clear and purifies all chakras below it. Since the jivatama is said to be seated in heart chakra... bhaktas see him as deity when the heart chakra is open and kundalini illuminating it. aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 > Is there a way to know which chakra need attention or is closed ? You > say all chakras are closed by default, but those doing sadhna may have > some chakras opened or partially opened ? Yes Anusuyaji, Sadhna partially opens these chakras. So those doing Bhakti may have heart chakra open(only those doing pure Bhakti, not fanatics). Those doing Yoga, Tratak may have Agya open. Visualising your Ishta Devta also open Agya & Visshudhi. Sometimes, chakras maybe partially open due to previous life Sadhna. > How can we know which of our chakras is opened ? A real Guru, whose own chakras are open, can tell you this. But its rare to find such a Guru. Im told, by my Guru, that he feels buzzing in his chakras- either painful if chakra is extremely blocked, or pleasing if it is open(and nothing for normal people ). Many people, including those who practice Energy healing like Reiki, can see or feel the Pranic Chakras(or Marmas). But few can feel the Spiritual chakras, as for that your own chakras must be fully open. love Shantnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 , shanracer <no_reply wrote: Dear Shantnu, Namaste! Your explanation on chakras really made good reading. Thanks for clearing some of my own doubts in that. I have one question. I have heard sometimes when you fall one or two chakras do get partially opened and then you have access to some psychic powers like knowing future etc., is this true? Can it get awakened in this manner as well. Ofcourse i have heard the person who got these powers did not have control over it and later on after passage of time the chakras closed and so did the powers. Is this possible? Kind regards Sudhakar HARI OM TAT SAT! CHEERS! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Namaste Sudhakarji, Glad I could be of help. > heard sometimes when you fall one or two chakras do get partially > opened and then you have access to some psychic powers like knowing > future etc., is this true? Can it get awakened in this manner as No, Chakras never get opened so randomly. Due to previous life Sadhna, in this life Chakras may open suddenly, but unless then the Sadhak controls his power, & continues meditating, they will close again. Many Sadhaks reach heights of Sadhna, but its hard to maintain that height- unless one is very pure, has self control & humility, he falls. Many of these Gurus that pull ashes/items out of air, start like this. Due to good Sadhna in this or last life they get Siddhis, but these go to their head & they start trying to impress people. They quickly lose the little power they had, & usually have to resort to cheap tricks to impress people. love Shantnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 , " janfarah_strongspirit " <janfarah_strongspirit wrote: > My question is, how do these blockages occur? Is this also what is > known as 'granthis?' or are these just a certain kind of blockage? Are Dear Farah, Granthhis are different from chakras... even if all the chakras are open and activated... granthis are still needed to be broken and straightened. How chakras are blocked : over many births this has happened...not only due to this birth. Each desire of us, which remains unfulfilled we have a small negative, stale block of energy in respective chakra...and which will be cleared when that desire is fulfilled. the soul inside us needs a complete set of experience, unlike our mind which only wishes to have pleasures for itself and body. If we murdered someone...we have a stale energy block in our chakra ...and will be removed by its complementary energy..i.e. when we will be murdered and the soul gets both the experiences. So in a way chakras are the recorders of all our karma, good and bad...as well as our desires. Suppose, you ever wished to slap a person for his folly, but could not due to some reasons...that desire will sit in a chakra as stale energy...and will be removed only when u have actually slapped a person.. may be even after a 1000 years. Chakras are not really chakras...they are the vortex of energies...controlling our mind and our prana. Kundalini currents talks to us through chakras...divine talks to us through chakras. When we say chakra is activated...it does not mean that chakra is pure... it means it has lost its Tamoguna and have started responding to energies...there may still be blocks...which needs to be cleared Shantnu's one point is certain that chakras do not affect the body. I would say Chakras affect the Mind, which in turn affect the body..but not exactly in the bookish way. For example, Muladhara chakra has Earth element and it binds our mind & ego to the body. Now too much negativity in this chakra will make the mind insecure...and that person would doubt all doing conspiracies against him. This needs a lot of sharing and discussion.. so bisect it and pls come with further questions with love Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 Thanks Dear Santhnu and Dear Aum. i feel this is great, i will not have to suffer wiht the chance of getting merged in my ego of different siddi's as all happen at a single time at lords wish. -- Deito Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam. , " Aum " <beirut_ka_baba wrote: > > , shanracer <no_reply@> wrote: > > yes this is true. What ever sadhna we are doing...it finally leads to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 , " Aum " <beirut_ka_baba wrote: Dear Aum, Namaste! Your write up on chakra cleansing is thought provoking but a doubt creeps in. You say, " suppose you ever wished to slap a person for his folly, but could not due to some reasons,...that desire will sit in a chakra as stale energy...and will be removed only when u have actually slapped a person...maybe even after 1000 years. " Say i am that person who wants to slap somebody but now i realise the bad karma that will follow plus blockage of chakra so how do i get out or come out of it stop is there any way or do i need to slap that person no matter what. Please explain. Thanks and regards Sudhakar HARI OM TAT SAT - Cheers! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 , " spbyoga9 " <spbyoga9 wrote: is there any way or do i need to > slap that person no matter what. Please explain. > My dear Sudhakar, there are many ways to clear those energies. The top one is awakening of Kundalini which will destroy all such garbage filled in our chakras. The second is opposite feelings of negativity. You get a chance to slap a person (even if another one)..u have excuse, strength and will to slap...and suddenly you forgive and smile... it will negate the negative energies sitting in the chakra, with this positive one. this is just an example. That z why our rishis, without going into deep philosophy of chakras...told the people.. do good with people,.. have love and compassion. this was to negate the wrong energies....staling the chakras. The third way is deep sadhna...many such small negative energies are destroyed when you do sadhna, specially dhyana. The energy of dhyan or the humming of AUM vibrates the chakras and brings up the negative energies up for destruction. these destructions can be felt by sudden stomach disorder, or fever, or some bad dreams...so instead of getting into actual Karma, they destroy themselves. Aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 , " Aum " <beirut_ka_baba wrote: > I would say Chakras affect the Mind, which in turn affect the > body..but not exactly in the bookish way. > I would like to give one example of Muladhara Chakra...how it affects our psyche. There can be 3 conditions with a chakra..either it has more negativity, or more positive energies..or it is covered by the pure energy of Kundalini (which destroys the negativity and enhances positive ones towards divinity) Muladhara chakra - Earth Element, Color is blood red and god is Brahma. =>when Muladhar chakra has more negative energies : Person feels insecure, he does not believe any one, normally failure in worldly affairs, sad and pessimistic =>If Muladhara has more positive energies : Person will have good self- image, he will feel secure and full of confidence, Happy and joy, less prone to illness and good speaking power => If Muladhara is full with Kundalini Energies : Person enters into world of pure intelligence away from lame logics and self-assertions. Poetry, good administrative qualities... If you like it, i will write about other chakras too. AUM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2007 Report Share Posted October 3, 2007 , " Aum " <beirut_ka_baba wrote: > > There can be 3 conditions with a chakra..either it has > more negativity, or more positive energies..or it is covered by the > pure energy of Kundalini Dear brothers & sisters These posts are brilliant & I have SO many questions.... but it is late, so for now just one... So, if a chakra has more positive energy, or is covered by kundalini energy - is it also open? And if it has more negative energy, will it be closed? Yes, dear Aum, please do write more about chakras.... but be ready for my avalanche of questions! :-) With love Farah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 , " Aum " <beirut_ka_baba wrote: > > , " spbyoga9 " <spbyoga9@> wrote: Dear Aum, Namaste! Wow! nice lucid explanation, Thanks very much. clap clap clap. Regards Sudhakar HARI OM TAT SAT! Cheers! ) > felt by sudden stomach disorder, or fever, or some bad dreams...so > instead of getting into actual Karma, they destroy themselves. > > Aum > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 , shanracer <no_reply wrote: Dear Shantnu, Namaste! That explanation was enlightening. Thanks! Regards Sudhakar HARI OM TAT SAT! Cheers! ) > > heard sometimes when you fall one or two chakras do get partially > > opened and then you have access to some psychic powers like knowing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 , " Aum " <beirut_ka_baba wrote: Dear Aum, Namaste! Please continue with your explanation of other chakras too. Take your time but please cover balance chakras. Thanks and regards Sudhakar HARI OM TAT SAT! Cheers! ) > If you like it, i will write about other chakras too. > > AUM > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 , " janfarah_strongspirit " <janfarah_strongspirit wrote: > So, if a chakra has more positive energy, or is covered by kundalini > energy - is it also open? And if it has more negative energy, will Dear Farah, There are different explanations by different people on this aspect. My personal view is that Chakra can be said to opened only when it gets energy from Kundalini. With negative energies it is more in negative resonance, and with positive it has more positive effect on our psyche....even while closed. Chakras are partially opened when we meditate on them, or Kundalini sends energy to them. They are fully open when kundalini sits in the chakra's centre. When a chakra is partially opened, its negativity is not annulled...it is just more active.Closed chakras are due to evolution... we got them closed and we will get them opened in further births. There is Tamoguna in each chakra which keeps it closed...and meditation removes that tamoguna. so we have first task to remove the tam and negativity together to keep a chakra healthy...affecting mind with positive effects. in next posts i will write symptoms of negative and positive traits of all other chakras...so one, by analysing one's personality can guess which chakra has more negativity and needs to be addressed. That will answer Ansuya's question too Aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 I would like to add something further on Chakras: Chakras are like the sky- they transmit the energy of the Kundalni(sun) to the Earth(body). Now if the sky is cloudy(our Chakras have tamogun), the light of the sun wont reach us. But it makes no difference to the sun or the sky- they remain as they are, only the people living on Earth dont get sunlight. The chakras translate energy of the Kundalni into our mental & pranic energies. If the chakras are full of negativity, they will translate energy poorly, which means we will get poor mental & pranic energies. Open chakras will allow the full light of the Kundalni, which is the power of God, to shine in us, & that will automatically make us advanced sadhaks. love Shantnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 , shanracer <no_reply wrote: > > Farahji, you have made the classic mistake, that almost every book Ive > read(bar a notable few) makes- that of assuming the Chakras are linked > to their physical counterparts. > Dear Shantnu Are you saying that the chakras are not linked to certain physical parts of the body? For example, it was my understanding that mooladhara was associated with the spine, the adrenal glands, the kidneys & the lower digestine tract... svadhistana was to do with the reproductive organs... manipoor the digestive system, liver & muscles... etc, etc... Is this just not the case as far as you're concerned? You also say that you acknowledge this is what most of the books say - bar a notable few - can you tell me what those books are so I can check them out? I'd be interested to read what they have to say. You talked about 'new age' books/authors etc - can you tell me where you would place Deepak Chopra on this - is he a guru, or new age to you? I have read some of his books & regularly do his version of chakra balancing. (I must say he does link chakras to various physical parts of the body.) He encourages you to visualise the chakra, with corresponding colour & corresponding traits, whilst also chanting the corresponding mantra - lam, vam, ram, yam, ham, sham, om. (So, for example - anahata chakra, colour green & imagine giving & receiving unconditional love, whilst chanting yam.) I'd be interested to hear what you think of this (or anyone of course!) & also if you have another way of working on chakras, I'd be interested to hear about that too. With much love Farah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 , " Aum " <beirut_ka_baba wrote: > > or the humming of AUM vibrates the chakras and brings up the > negative energies up for destruction. these destructions can be > felt by sudden stomach disorder, or fever, Dear Aum This is a minefield to me - if I have an upset stomach, was it something I ate, a bug I picked up, or the vibration of chanting bringing up negative energies? How can you know for sure? You have given lists of symptoms in the past for kundalini rising, many of which I can tick off as having - but some of them sound like other things, the menopause for example! I just feel a bit lost with all this. With much love Farah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 , " Aum " <beirut_ka_baba wrote: > > > Dear Farah, Granthhis are different from chakras... even if all the > chakras are open and activated... granthis are still needed to be > broken and straightened. > > chakras are the recorders of all our karma, good and bad...as well > as our desires. > Dear Aum So, granthis - do we all have these from birth? Or do some of us get them along the way? It was my understanding that these were blockages held in the chakras, that hindered spiritual growth - is that incorrect? You were chatting with 'spy yoga' about karma being held in the chakras & about how this negative energy could be removed by 'completing the experience.' But am I correct that you also said this wasnt always necessary - ie, we wouldnt want to encourage murder for example - & that saadnaa would clear this karma? So can clear any karma? If someone did something to me, or if I did something to them - can this karma be cleared by saadnaa? Can you, or anyone, recommend a book on the subject of chakras? With much love Farah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Dear sister, Anything is true only till you believe in its supporting ecosystem. all karma will be burn at once, when you get the real knowledge of The shell covering and manifestation of Maya. just like saying that, if you dream that you have really killed somebody, and you are a criminal, you will remain a criminal only till you are still dreaming, once you are out of the dream, you know that it is all part of dream , and such things NEVER HAPPENED. Very similarly, all this is just a play in the divine trance of Lord, when you understand this trance responsible for manifestation, through Sadhana, through establishing yourself in pure sattva , abd resolving and getting independent of all dependency, and in the final stage, getting independent of your very own ego, which will merge you, and the world " ME " will have no meaning, all your karmas are burnt, because you understand that they never happenned. so to make it clear let me extend a bit, You killed someone and became a criminal in your dream, than also please understand that even if you have to be punished for this sin, you have to be punished in that very dream. once you wake up, neither dreams exist, nor the actions you committed. This is just my understanding, and if i am wrong, here we have Aum and others who are having good experience, in terms of Chakra and meditation etc, technically. So they will be able to help and guide us with right information. -- Brother Deito Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam. , " janfarah_strongspirit " <janfarah_strongspirit wrote: > Can you, or anyone, recommend a book on the subject of chakras? > > With much love > > Farah > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 , " janfarah_strongspirit " <janfarah_strongspirit wrote: >- if I have an upset stomach, was it > something I ate, a bug I picked up, or the vibration of chanting Yes Farah dear you are very right, in the beginning it is difficult to find out. But time will make you wise enough to understand. If you feel a gust of energies going up your spine or hitting a chakra, and you feel immense joy and feel a little enlightened...and next day you find tummy our of order...then it is a symptom of shaktipaat....for sure The other sure sign of an illness coming out of purging is that it comes suddenly....and no medicine has an effect and it goes away automatically. I got a dreaded disease, which even American and French doctors could not catch..and they finally gave me a lollypop saying it may be some genetical disorder and they know nothing abt the disease....also that this disease is incurable. Later i found, it was a big purging of old bad karma and the disease automatically vanished without any medicine. On another note...all the disease which have no cure, and are strange are always spiritual diseases and are caused due to our past karma. Blood pressure, liver damage, piles, sugar are the disease which are more linked with our sick ego/mind. For example people having very high ego or proud and thus harming others are more prone to high BPs causing heart failure.....sometimes due to karma of last birth. This is a very complex issue and with a logical sentence cant be really made to understand....but still we may try to understand. If we understand how this matrix of energies is working in the universe, we will understand most of the happenings around....the disease, the abuses, the violence, the blood-shed... Perhaps that z the reason god sent me to beirut to understand the working of the other side of matrix...after understanding the peaceful working of energies in scotland. Aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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