Question on Gita

[Guest guest]

In the Gita, 10:21, Krishna says,

 

" Amongst the stars, I am the moon " .

 

I have read this in 5-6 translations. Now people say Vedic science was

very advanced. Then didnt Krishna know moon is not a star?

 

I ask as a geninuine student.

 

S Kumar

[Guest guest]

> I ask as a genuine student.

 

Just this line is enough for me to explain you what it is .. but to

do so, i will consider 2 paras, below to this one too.

 

Lets come in reverse order ..

 

..........--------________

rudranam samkaras cha 'smi

vitteso yaksharakshasam

vasunam pavakas cha 'smi

meruh sikharinam aham

 

Of the Rudras I am Samkara (Siva) ;

of the Yakshas and the Rakshasas, Vittesa (Lord of Wealth),

of the Vasus I am Pavakah (the purifying elemental fire) and

among heights I am Meru.

..........--------________

 

 

See in the above para, is anything there which is Scientific or

logically correct .. He is everything but still My hari says that he

is Samskara, Meru etc etc

 

 

also consider a para before this one .

 

..........--------________

vedinam samavedo 'smi

devanam asmi vasavah

indriyanam manas cha 'smi

bhutanam asmi chetana

 

Of the Vedas I am the Sama-Veda ;

of the divinities I am Indra (Vasava);

in respect of the senses I am the Mind, and

of life-expressions I am (pure) Intelligence.

..........--------________

 

Same thing here, even in all these, thought everything is hari, he

says he is the sama veda, he is Vasava and he says he is

Intelligence.. So what do you understand by this.. why is Hari telling

like this..

 

 

And at last .. coming to yours.

 

..........--------________

adityanam aham vishnur

jiyotisham ravir amsuman

marichir marutam asmi

nakshatranam aham sasi

 

Of the Adityas I am Vishnu, of luminaries the radiant Sun;

I am Marichi of the Maruts ; among the stars I am the Moon.

..........--------________

 

Same pattern follows ,and all this is said in request to Arjuna's

Request that how should be be thought of and approached of ...

 

 

and hence everything is qualitative.. and not quantitative..

 

 

I SHOULD GET VERY ANGRY WITH PEOPLE LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE

ANY DISCIPLINE .. IT IS CLEARLY STATED THAT EVEN SKIPPING A CHAPTER IN

GITA IS NOT GOOD< THAN HOW CAN YOU WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT 10Th Chapter

AND ALL RELATED VERSES OF 21 to 24 etc DEALING ABOUT, YOU SIMPLY

PICKED A VERSE AND YOUR MIND THOUGHT THAT IT IS SILLY ISN'T IT.

 

 

 

Very BAD, BUT BY MY VERY NATURE I CANNOT GET ANGRY ON ANYONE< BECAUSE

IT IS ALL HARI, AND YOU ARE PART OF MY REVERED LORD.

 

I EXPLAINED BECAUSE I FELT HE IS ASKING ME, TO TEST ME, THROUGH YOU.

 

ANYWAYS MY SUGGESTION IS , BEFORE ASKING ANYTHING, READ IT AND FOLLOW

THE RULES.

 

Than if you tell this step of the game is stupid , agreeable.. without

knowing the game, without knowing the rules, and without knowing the

aim of winning, you have come to spot the un-intillegence in the game.

... loll

 

 

God bless you ... These are not rude words, just what came to my heart.

 

-- Deito

 

Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam.

[Guest guest]

Dear Kumar the problem is not with Geeta but with the translation.

English is a very poor language, spiritually. There is no appropriate

translations for at least 70% of spiritual words of sanskrit in

english.

 

However sholka 21 of chapter 10 says

 

Adityanamaham vishnujyortisham....... nakshtranamaham shashi

 

Shri Krishna says... I am moon in Nakshtras (not Stars )...the

correct meaning of Nakshatra is heavenly body...not star

 

 

 

AUM

[Guest guest]

Dear Aum.

 

I saw your reply, and even i posted some reply, being felt possessive,

about someone questioning the authority...

 

 

But i am not satisfied, I donno, i am feeling i just told out of my

limited knowledge, of which i have no right to do so ..

 

The answer is with the lord, I need to find out .. I will be back in

some time Aum . .. with the answer .. be here.. i will be back soon ..

 

Let me meditate on Hari ..

 

-- Deito

 

, " Aum " <beirut_ka_baba wrote:

> Shri Krishna says... I am moon in Nakshtras (not Stars )...the

> correct meaning of Nakshatra is heavenly body...not star

[Guest guest]

Kumarji, the line says " Among the Nakshatras, Im the moon " , the word

is nakshatra, wrongly translated as stars.

 

In Vedic astrology(there maybe other explanations, but this is only

one I know) Nakshtras are constellations of stars. Like western

astrology uses sun signs, Indian Astrology uses these Nakshtras. Since

they are found by the position of moon, they can be called moon signs.

 

These Nakshtras are very important, as they are used for many things,

including finding auspicious times for things like marriage.

 

But the Nakshtras are useless, unless the moon sits in it- thats why

Krishna says " In the Nakshatra, Im the moon "

[Guest guest]

Listen Dear Kumar,

 

The information of the Vastness of Infinity himself, out of which i am

able to gaze some ..

 

Which i would wish to share with you,

 

All the life on the Earth, Dear Kumar, is Profoundly effected by the

group of stars, Determining the Constellation of a manifestation for

particular soul..

 

 

Listen the meaning of Nakshatra, My dear Hari.. which i have learnt by

your grace, The Word Nakshatra is made up of the following roots,

Hari ..

 

Naks and kshetra

 

Meaning , sky and Kshetra meaning Region of Influence.

 

Just like when we say PunyaKshetra for divine temples and places, it

means The places whcih is of Influence of Punya... Similarly Kumar.

 

So Nakshatra in very simple words of understanding as i perceive by my

own limits Kumar, means Constellation .

 

though Some great munis are able to Perceive and calculate influences

of 27 Makshatras, or Constellations my dear Kumar. But, The

constellation of Human influence is highly for 12 and hence 12

constellations are given very high prominence..

 

Each of the 27 Nakshatras consists of 13 degrees and 20 minutes of the

zodiac. Multiplying this length by 27 equals the entire zodiacal belt

of 360 degrees is hence covered.

 

under stand this to be the basic of all astrology revived and tuned

for human beings, my Dear Kumar.

 

The Nakshatras are classified in various ways, according to basic

attribute, primary motivation (Kama - sensual desires; Artha -

material desires; Dharma - living life based on spiritual principles;

Moksha - liberation from birth and death), sex, caste, species and so

on. They are particularly revealed by their presiding deities, ruling

planets and their symbolic form, who are empowered in there respective

forms and Attributes by none other than the Creator Brahma, At the

assistance and will of the Supreme Hari Dear Kumar

 

Now listen the essence that is required to know the Sloka of Gita that

you quoted My Dear Kumar, which is absolutely logical and correct.

 

it is only out of my ignorance that i told it is juts qualitative, but

it is Right in everyday, not in just this or that . Please forgive My

Ignorance, Kumar..

 

 

Out of these 27 Star Clusters , along the eliptical path of our Sun,

Dear Kumar, n individual's nakshatra, or birth star, is the

constellation the moon was aligned with at the time of birth.

 

The Nakshatras, and there influential Forces are carried and tuned

and directed only through the mood to us dear kumar... Without the

moon, Even thought the nakshatras are present , we will not be able to

get the positive or negative impulses and hence influence of these

Nakshatras.

 

 

 

This is the very reason for many of the things my dear kumar. Some of

the myths that can be resolved follows :

 

 

1.) this is the reason, why the constellation assigned to you are me,

is based on the fact where the moon lies and in which constellation

during ones birth Mr Kumar.

 

2.) This is the reason, why most of the Tantras and Karma Vidyas etc

are carried out during the no - moon day Dear Kumar, as the Stars with

its eyes upon us through moon, will not allow for the accurate

calculation of these mantras... and as du9rign the no-moon day as no

nakshatras can influence us much , without the moon.. hence all black

magic and other things are carried out and have much force.

 

3.) This is the reason witches and wizards practice and also prefer

no-moon Day Dear Kumar.

 

4.) This is the reason why Many great beings are born on full moon day

Dear Kumar,

 

5.) this is the reason , why thought buddha meditated everyday, he was

enlightened on the full moon day , when the very high stars of his

influence, his parental stars including dhruva, Were able to bestow

upon him there mercy , very easily.

 

And so many more Dear Kumar, if i am confusing , please let me know ad

i will explain, as i have got this knowledge just now, And it is so

huge that I am finding myself difficult to assimilate...

 

also on this depends the accent of souls and how much can they be

affected etc etc Dear Kumar...

 

Hence, Hari, or Krishna, Is the moon, for the constellations Dear

Kumar, as he is responsible to Bring our good and bad luck , To us...

 

Krishna is the moon for the constellations, and it is he whop

dictates, how much an individual soul will be effected when it is

manifested or born at a particular point in material time my Dear Kumar.

 

AS GREAT QUESTION, WHICH ALSO BROKE MY EGO BY GREAT EXTENT AND ALSO

MADE ME UNDERSTAND MANY GREAT LOTUS FEET OF HARI.

 

 

I AM THANKFUL TO YOU mr Kumar, Hari in the form of you, have made me

understand this kumar..

 

 

 

Thanks you very very much , and may my Lords mercy always be on you,

and may my ignorance get diminished day by day ... and finally may i

always exist at the Lotus feet of the lotus eyed one...

 

 

All glories and all Respects to That Divine lord, who defines rthe

architecture fo all these, who is the real Kshetragna of all this Kumar.

 

 

-- Deito

 

Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam.

 

 

, deito01 <no_reply wrote:

>

> Dear Aum.

>

> I saw your reply, and even i posted some reply, being felt