Guest guest Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 Hello everyone , I recently went to Khajuraho temples. I cant believe why anyone would build temples with so much pornography. I agree with Gandhiji these temples are blight on Hinduism, & should be pulled down. Do others agree? S Kumar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 It is always the history or the reason behind it that is important, When this is not understood, such misunderstandings occur. These temples were build by the Son of the Moon Deity. Who once due to Uncontrolled lust, Ravished A beautiful daughter, who was a daughter of A Sacred Priest. After this the daughter was very angry and was about to curse Moon Deity, and at this time, the mood deity promised that no need to worry, as she would get a son, form this intercourse, and The son would be very bright and be a great ruler, And it happened as he told, and This son also made a yagna where the sins of his mother was washed. Hence mother asked her son to Build these temples, Depicting the Lust and the sexual time that was spend by her with The moon Deity, who is the father of the King. Because initially thought this intercourse was thought as illegal, and sinful, later it turned to be profitable to her.. so .. I donno ... if this is a valuable history to be preserved, if you all feel it is not, than that may be brought down.. Because even i feel that this history is not profound enough, and neither it has great values to be followed. But who knows there may be some other mystery hidden, and while bringing it down, we may bring destroy that secret too. -- Deito Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam. , s_kumar_12345 <no_reply wrote: > > Hello everyone , I recently went to Khajuraho temples. I cant believe > why anyone would build temples with so much pornography. I agree with > Gandhiji these temples are blight on Hinduism, & should be pulled > down. Do others agree? > > S Kumar > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 > > , s_kumar_12345 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > Hello everyone , I recently went to Khajuraho temples. I cant believe > > why anyone would build temples with so much pornography. I agree with > > Gandhiji these temples are blight on Hinduism, & should be pulled > > down. Do others agree? > > > > S Kumar > > > So what ? Sex was never a taboo in Hinduism. Gandhi himself was sexually starved man. Remember? when his father died he made love with his wife ansuya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 Im afraid I must disagree. The story posted about Moon having lust is obviously made up(as Khajuraho doesnt show Gods having sex). Its a shame Hindus dont know about their own culture, & have to make false stories when westerns laugh at us. 1st thing, only about 10-20% of sculptures are in sexual poses- rest are doing normal things like woman doing housework, men working, children playing, farmers farming. These sculptures show normal human life- which includes sex. The inside of the temple is empty- to show that the Soul is not affected by all these activities. Khajuraho temples are not about sex, there about normal human activities, which happen on the outside world. But inside, the soul is in sakshi bhaav- seeing but not affected by all this. Another thing is, none of the Gods are engaged in sex, only normal human beings are. This also shows normal human activities must be left behind if we are to reach God. There are other esoteric meanings of Khajuraho, which I will discuss later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 Very nice , i never knew these importance, I always thought the story was the thing existed.. thank you , But isn't higher beings suffered by Lust, but does not lust affect them.. I thought Even the deities , have Intoxicants and also are affected by lust, as we had numerous incidents in history.. Let me know what you feel . Regards, -- Deito Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam. , shanracer <no_reply wrote: > The story posted about Moon having lust is obviously made up(as > Khajuraho doesnt show Gods having sex). Its a shame Hindus dont know > about their own culture, & have to make false stories when westerns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 Yes Gandhi said that Khajuraho was a shame on Hinduism and tried to get it covered with mud. It was only due to interception by Rabindra Nath Tagore that his scheme was rejected. Ansuya is right in one thing…sex was never a taboo in Hinduism and prior to the invasions, hindu society was very free …. More than Europeans. Khajuraho temples were made by the greates psychologists that have appreared on the earth, some 3000 years ago. There were Tantriks; their whole approach was called Tantra. The very word Tantra means expanding consciousness. They had made these beautiful temples all around the country. Muslims invaders destroyed most of these temples; but since Khajuraho was then in a deep forest; it was not found and was saved. The secret is, tantra believes unless you have gone through all sexual experiences to the point when sex does not matter to you at … that is transcendence of your energy. Tantra thus does not stress upon a forcible discipline of sex ( I am talking Vaam Marga of Tantra). And when one has transcended that point where sex becomes meaningless, one is capable of entering into the inner sanctum of the temple. You are ready for nothingness of Buddha; you are ready for pure silence. So then the sadhakas used to meditate for months on those statues. And it was a great strategy, because looking at all those statues, a moment comes ….something in your unconscious disappears. Not just looking-once was months or years of training. But the sadhakas were not allowed inside the temple until they became uninterested in these sexual postures. When their guru saw that somebody had become completely ininterested – even sitting before the most beautiful woman he was sitting with closed eyes-then he was allowed to enter into the temple. This is the beauty of Hinduism, that it does not fix any rule or dogma for its followers… any one with any mindset can chose one of various paths and get enlightenment….Bhakti Karma, gyan, yoga, Tantra… these paths were specially made for different mind-sets. Aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 The energy is the same. When the attention is focussed on the body, then food, sex and pleasure become important. When the attention is focussed on the mind, then intellectual pursuits like discovery, invention, music and expression become important. When the attention is predominantly focussed on the awareness within, then silence and expansion occur. I have visited the temples there and as Babaji says, they seem to have a purpose. Even now no one has talked about the huge shiva linga inside one of the shrines. People tend to focus on the small series of figurines outside the temple. " Till one enters the temple of the Heart, pleasures of the flesh seem unavoidable " " After one enters the temple of the Heart, pleasures of the flesh seem like a play " Love Bala... On 9/30/07, Aum <beirut_ka_baba wrote: > > Khajuraho temples were made by the greates psychologists that have > appreared on the earth, some 3000 years ago. There were Tantriks; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 Welcome back Balaji. Many people were wondering where you vanished. You were gone a long time, we had many good discusions behind you. >I have visited the temples there and as Babaji says, they seem to have > purpose. Even now no one has talked about the huge shiva linga inside > of the shrines. People tend to focus on the small series of figurines > outside the temple. That was the plan of the Masters who built the temple- people would be so busy looking at outside, they would never see the secrets hidden inside. Which is how people behave in the world too- they see the outside, never seeing the hidden secret of the spirit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 Dearest Shantnu, I am ever grateful for your concern and kind words, I had some family commitments and thats why I was away. I am most happy to be back...although It will still take some time for me to be a regular again... I will be posting on and off.. Love Bala.... On 9/30/07, shanracer <no_reply > wrote: > > Welcome back Balaji. Many people were wondering where you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 Now there is no doubt that Khajuraho temples are great pride of our religion, and have to be preserved and people need to be educated thoroughly.. -- Deito Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam. , " Balachander Govindaraghavan " <balachand wrote: > > Dearest Shantnu, > > I am ever grateful for your concern and kind words, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 , s_kumar_12345 <no_reply wrote: > > Hello everyone , I recently went to Khajuraho temples. I cant believe > why anyone would build temples with so much pornography. I agree with > Gandhiji these temples are blight on Hinduism, & should be pulled > down. Do others agree? > > S Kumar > Dear brother These beautiful pieces of art are part of your rich history & should not be compared to something as cheap & shallow as 'pornography.' Im just glad the muslims didn't manage to rip this temple to pieces when they had the chance. Be glad that you have had the opportunity to see such a wonderful temple in person & be proud of the beauty that is in your history. I would love to go - you are very lucky. With love Farah PS - Bala, very nice to see your name back on here again. No worries, just post when you can. Sending you good wishes. Farah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 If sex is vulgar , please ask yourself.. How many times did you fantasise having it with how many people in how many ways? Honestly my mind is very corrupt. A joke is attributed to George Brnard Shaw. At a dinner party hosted by Her Majesty Shaw asked loud " ladies and gentlemen , what is in between my thighs? Everyone frowned. Shaw was sitting in such a way that the leg of the table was in between his thighs. So he told everyone that it was the leg of the table. After sometime Shaw loudly questioned again " ladies and gentlemen ,what is in between my thighs? " " Leg of the table " shouted everyone " No " said Shaw " It`s what you thought the first time " Our thoughts are vulgar. Not sex. Before modern times men and women were moving naked without being called vulgar. Kinnera - etymology --- Kin Nera - which woman? Kim purusha ---- which man? Tribals did not know which woman was their mother or father. Sex WAS AMORAL. Thanks for reading. ijswamy shanracer <no_reply > wrote: Im afraid I must disagree. The story posted about Moon having lust is obviously made up(as Khajuraho doesnt show Gods having sex). Its a shame Hindus dont know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 yes swami, sex is not vulgur, vulgarity is vulgar. In old times sex was not taken as a bad thing. women were free to chose husbands even pandavas were accepted by society, although they were sons of different gods. BALA: Welcome back, I was also missing your good messages Deito: You are great soul, you have guts to accept your faults. Thanks today your respect increased in my eyes. ansuya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 > Dear brother > > These beautiful pieces of art are part of your rich history & > your history. I would love to go - you are very lucky. > Farah Farah, My Dear Sister, Chnage 'Your' with 'OUR' .. Farah, it pinched me.. -- Deito Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Thank you everybody, I am moved by all of your concern and kindness. My love and prayers to all... Love Bala... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 , deito01 <no_reply wrote: > > > > > Farah, My Dear Sister, Chnage 'Your' with 'OUR' .. Farah, it pinched > me.. > Dear brother Ha ha - not like you to split hairs! I was simply referring to this beautiful temple being part of the history of HINDUISM - but as you wish... it is part of the history of OUR human race... & who knows, in a previous life I may have helped build it! Now that would be wonderful! :-) With love Farah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 Dear seekaers , namaskar . Please read the following article about the Kajuraho temples The Facts of Khajuraho --> January 10, 2007 Many times we find that people often quote the Khajuraho Temples as an excuse to equate hinduism and Hindu Deities with nudity and sex. What is actually Khajuraho, what does it contain and how many of the quoters have actually visited the Temples ? Here are the facts. Lady Applying Make-up Male and female Statues Chandela War March Chandela Musicians Finally Erotic Sculpture Depicting the Kamasutra Positions. (Less than 10% of the total carvings) Lord Matangeshvara Temple, All Temple Deities are Depicted in their Shastriya Forms The name Khajuraho may be derived from khajura (date palm), which grows freely in the area and perhaps because there were two golden khajura trees on a carved gate here. The old name was Kharjuravahaka (scorpion bearer), the scorpion symbolizing poisonous lust. The temples were built under the late Chandela kings between 950 and 1050 AD in a truly inspired burst of creativity. With the fading of Chandela fortunes, the importance of Khajuraho waned but temple building continued until the 12th century at a much reduced pace. The Chandelas were followers of the Tantric cult which believes that gratification of earthly desires is a step towards attaining the ultimate liberation. Tantrism has been mostly misunderstood and the Philosophical part of Tantras like the Mahanirvana Tantra have been totally forgotten. This was one of the reasons why Tantrics perished. Nevertheless it remains a distinct path of Spiritual Practice though it has very few followers all over the world. 1. It must be emphasized that Khajuraho Temples, do not contain sexual themes inside the Temple premises or near the deity but only on external carvings. They portray that for seeing the deity, one must leave his sexual desires outside the Temple. They also depict that the inner deity of the Temple is pure like the soul (atman) which is unaffected by sexual desires and other gross tendencies, destiny etc, whereas the external curvature and carvings of the Temples depict the bodily changes that occur in us. 2. Only as many as 10% carvings contain sexual themes, not between any deities but between ordinary humans. The rest depict the common man's life of those days. For example ladies applying makeup, musicians, potters, Farmers etc. All these are away from Temple deities. They give the message that one should always have God as the central point in one's life even though one is engaged in worldly activities. 3. It is a misconception that since Khajuraho are Temples, they depict sex between deities! 4. In Khajuraho Temples, the idols of Shiva, Nandi, Goddess Durga, Incarnations of Vishnu etc are fully clothed. 5. All over India, in no Temples have idols of Deities been shown nude and in sexual positions ! 6. Types of beauty in the Hindu religion – Union of man and woman 'The basic Universal Divine Energy (Shakti) is a symbol of the union of man and woman and it is the main spiritual emotion in Hindu art depicted in the man-woman sculptures seen in Amravati, Khajuraho, Konark, etc.Here Divine Energy (Shakti) manifests in the man-woman union, the basis of Vedic art and culture. Sculptures in the Ajanta caves are also a depiction of the man and woman, but sexual congress is prohibited in the sculptures’. Bharatiya Sanskruti Kosh, pages 166-169 janfarah_strongspirit <janfarah_strongspirit wrote: , s_kumar_12345 <no_reply wrote: > > Hello everyone , I recently went to Khajuraho temples. I cant believe > why anyone would build temples with so much pornography. I agree with > Gandhiji these temples are blight on Hinduism, & should be pulled > down. Do others agree? > > S Kumar > Dear brother These beautiful pieces of art are part of your rich history & should not be compared to something as cheap & shallow as 'pornography.' Im just glad the muslims didn't manage to rip this temple to pieces when they had the chance. Be glad that you have had the opportunity to see such a wonderful temple in person & be proud of the beauty that is in your history. I would love to go - you are very lucky. With love Farah PS - Bala, very nice to see your name back on here again. No worries, just post when you can. Sending you good wishes. Farah. Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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