astrology and sadhna

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, i-free_spirit (AT) (DOT) ..> wrote:

, deito01 <no_reply wrote:

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> Let me take the case of Haranyakashipu or Kamsa.

>

> They saw the Lord but never fell in love with him isn;t it

>

> So here comes my first statement, my dear flower.

>

 

 

Deito has perfectly answered the question of aradhana. If god

showed his grace on Kansa and Ravana etc... it was not due to any

special undue favours. they had tons of sadhna from previous births

and since their ahankaar was not reduced with sadhna. ...God

liberated them by killing them with his own hands... thus killing

their Ahankaar (Proud)

 

In gita shri Krishna declared - I am no body's friend..nobody's foe.

 

Which means God does not throw a dice and decide who should be

given enlightenment and who not. ...It is always our past sadhna

which attracts God to shower his grace upon us.

 

Great souls, may even become Asura like in last birth, yet God

does not forget their past Tapas and liberates them... this can be

called his MERCY.

 

There is no example anywhere anytime that anyone without any

past Tapas...was just liberated accidentally or by special mercy of

god... This is a Myth.

 

Aum

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> Deito has perfectly answered the question of aradhana. If god

> showed his grace on Kansa and Ravana etc... it was not due to any

 

>

> There is no example anywhere anytime that anyone without any

> past Tapas...was just liberated accidentally or by special mercy of

> god... This is a Myth.

 

 

Thanks baba . Now I am able to understand. It means that those

people who remain completely oblivious of his love and presence even

when he is there do so because they have no credit to any sadhna at

all? Why does a person feel thirsty(in terms of spirituality ) and

another does not? What and who initiates a person into sadhna? What

factors - is it his good karma? As Krishna says - " four types of

people chant me as a result of thier pious activities "

Is it possible that Duryodhana or those who feel no love for God have

no good karma at all. If they had no good karma at alll then why

Krishna even appeared before them? He gave them Mahabharata which he

himself says is for " punyavaan kshatriyas " .... Does that mean that

such people have not enough punya to thier credit that they can love

God?Its naturl to love God or am I wrong? God's grace is greater

than karma ie he bestows it only to someone who isnt completely

unworthy so does that mean that if Duryodhana ever did see Krishna

and yet didnot see him had no benefits of Krishna's presence? Its

very confusing to me . Hope I am not confusing you people.. lol

Dieto see I am so confused about my own question how can I remove

your confusion? lol

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Hey ... he hee... lol .. me confused.. you confused.. me again more

confused.. and we are so called " answerers " lol... and we roam around

freely confusing others, and spawning this epidemic disease of confusion..

 

 

lol........... and Still it becomes a divine practice, just because we

add Hari here and there...

 

very nice .. I am so convinced... but why am i laughing so much ...

 

 

> , " i_free_spirit " <i_free_spirit

>Thanks Dieto, I feel comfortable with your outlook. Your thoughts

> coincide with mine. I understand that you love Hari.According to my

 

You are my LOVELY Sister... thanks for being so.. your words are most

beautiful... i am fond of you Aradhana... but i don't want to speak

even a word about your post, because it will get limited, in my

limited description.

 

-- Deito

 

Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam.

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Dieto do you think that I can die in the temple of Hari while

looking at him even when I have no intelligence, good karma etc to my

credit?

Be honest- don lie. o.k?

 

>Here is a beautiful one on love by Saint Kabir -:

 

>I am not skilled in bookish knowledge,

nor do I understand controversy

I have grown mad reciting and hearing God's praises

O father I am mad, the whole world is sane;

I am mad,

I am ruined let others not be ruined likewise

I have not grown mad of my own will, God had made me mad

The true Guru has dispelled away my doubts

I am ruined, have lost my intellect

Let nobody be led astray in doubts like mine

he who knows no himself is mad,

When one knows himself he knows the one God

He who isnt intoxicated by divine love in

this human birth shall never be so

Saint Kabir I am dyed in the dye of God