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Dear learned souls,

 

please, please throw some light on the nature of madhu-kaitabh, rakt

beej, mahishsur,shumbh-nishumbh.

I will be more than happy to learn about this.

 

thanks all.

[Guest guest]

Even i am interested, What are these.. Please throw some light.

 

-- Deito

 

Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam.

 

, " jigyaasuu " <jigyaasuu wrote:

>

> Dear learned souls,

>

> please, please throw some light on the nature of madhu-kaitabh,

rakt

> beej, mahishsur,shumbh-nishumbh.

> I will be more than happy to learn about this.

>

> thanks all.

>

[Guest guest]

> please, please throw some light on the nature of madhu-kaitabh, rakt

> beej, mahishsur,shumbh-nishumbh.

 

These are the demons Durga kills in the Durga Saptashati, also called

Chandi Path. Most people dont know these demons have a hidden,

esoteric meaning too.

 

Generally, all the demons in Saptashati represent our bad thoughts, &

the Gods our good thoughts. In Sadhna, the latter are defeated easily

by evil thoughts. The Sadhak, then cries to the Divine Mother for

help. She comes down personally to fight for the Sadhak. The main

demons she kills is:

 

1. Madhu-Kaitab- These demons try to kill Brahma right in the

beginning, when he is just about creating the Universe. Narayan, or

the Universal Spirit, is asleep(or in Samadhi). Brahma then prays to

Yogamaya, who awakens Narayan, who then kills the demons.

 

Madhu means sweet, Kaitab is its opposite. Most people either enjoy

too much, or punish themself/their body in the name of religon. This

means their Sadhna never starts properly. These 2 demons have to be

killed 1st, before Sadhna can start(or Brahamaji can create world).

 

2. Mahishasur- Durga is protrayed as standing above a slayed demon ,

with body of bull. Mahishasur is one of 1st demons that attacks the

Gods. He represents the ego(lower ego, not Aham bhaav), which is

stupid & obstinate like a bull.

 

An interesting point is that Mahishasur takes the form of dozens of

animals/creatures before it is killed. This shows the ego pretends to

be different things(as we were discussing, most of our kindness to

others or desire to help them maybe just our ego). But Durga sees

through his disguise & still kills him. this shows we cant fool God

with our mask of holiness & fake charity.

 

3. Rakta Beej - When Durga cut the head of this demon, for each drop

of blood that fell, 2 more demons were born. Soon the whole Earth was

covered by Raktabeejs.

 

Raktabeej represents our desires- fulfill one, two takes it place.

 

Rakta is killed when Kali drinks his blood when Durga attacks him.

This has several meanings, including surrendering to God our desires.

 

4. Shumbh/Nishumbh- These are next main demons that attack Gods. They

represent feelings of self pity/self deprecation(or self importance).

The " Oh poor me, everyone hates me, I have to defend , myself, nobody

loves me " feeling.

 

These 2 demons spawn a whole army- Rakta beej, Trilochan(Anger),

jealousy, greed, doubt, censure. Babaji has written a post on these,

which is available on his website under Astha Paash, so I wont go into

this.

 

Shumbh/Nishumb are defeated are Durga defeats all the soldiers one by one.

 

For more details, I highly recommend Chandi Path by Swami Satyanand

Saraswati, one of few books that gives hidden meanings of the Saptashati.

[Guest guest]

, shanracer <no_reply wrote:

> Shumbh/Nishumb are defeated are Durga defeats all the soldiers one

by one.

>

> For more details, I highly recommend Chandi Path by Swami Satyanand

> Saraswati, one of few books that gives hidden meanings of the

Saptashati.

>

 

BRAVO!! Shanracer ....he has so beautifully and prefectly explained

the demons.

 

I will only repost Ashta Paasha (my old msg), further elaborating

the demon soldiers of Mahishasuras & Sumbha-Nishumbha

 

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The Ashta Paash

 

As per Tantraa philosophy there are eight bondages/chains which bind

soul to the Maya.

 

These bondages are

 

Ghrina (Hate),

Lajjaa (Shame),

Bhaya (Fear, shankaa(Doubt),

Jugupsaa(censure/reproach),

Kula (caste),

Jaati(creed) and

Sheela (Modesty).

 

Any consciousness which is bound by these 8 bondages is called Jiva

(Individual soul) and the consciousness who is free from all these

chains is called Sadashiva (Universal consciousness - Free soul/God).

 

In Chapter 8 of Durga Saptshati, when Demons Chanda and Munda died,

Shumbha the demon king becomes angry and ordered his army to start

attacking. He cries , " O demons, I order all armies of Asuras

alongwith 86 Udyudhas, 84 Kambus, 50 Kotiviryas, 100 Dhomras,

Kalakas, Dauhrids, Mauryas and Kalkeya demons to march for war.

 

Here Durga Saptshati reveals a great secret of Tantraa and that of

Universe and Maya. Demon shumbha which represents our Proud names 8

types of demons to win over Good. These 8 types of demons in fact,

signify the Ashtapasha which bind a person to Maya.

 

These 8 bondages have been reflected as 8 demon types in Saptshati

and when Jiva invokes Mother Shakti, SHE fights these demons in us

and breaks the bondages created by these Asuras and makes us free …a

Sadashiva !!

 

The Chief demon Shumbha (depicting our Ahankaar) is dependent on 8

demons to win the war and he would cease to be powerful when his

army is killed. similarly Ego will cease to be once these 8 bondages

are removed. Now let us look into details what these chains are.

 

1- Hatered : Hate is depicted by demon Udayudha. when Shumbha says

86 Udayudhas be ready, it tells us about the 86 types of hatered

which aid our Ego and keeps us away from divinity. Hatered is a

double edged sword. It not only forces us not to love someone it

also nourishes our Ego telling it that it is better than the subject

being hated. Ego can hate in 86 ways thus there are 86 Udayudha

demons. Ten organs and Four Antakarnas, these fourteen generate hate

towards four types of living beings (trees, reptiles/insects,

animals and humans). Thus ego has total 56 types of hatered in

waking state. In dream state, organs are missing hence 4 antahkarnas

generate this hate for 4 types of living beings….and in dreamless

state ego hates ten organs and 4 anthakarans thus all total making

86 types of hatered. These demons keep the ego satisfied and

powerful. Mother shakti when evoked, kills these 86 hates and frees

our Ego from one bondage called Hatered.

 

2- Lajjaa (Shame) : This bondage has been depicted by Kambu demons.

Kambu is also a word for Conch signifying the animal who hides

behind the hard shell to protect himself from others. Here Shame or

hiding oneself from one's weakness and keeping away from others to

save one's self-respect. This is also a sort of bondage on the soul.

Soul hides itself beind 6 bodies and ten organs and four

antahkarnas, hence making its number as 84. Here durga saptashati

very bravely declares that these demons too are manifestations of

Mother only when it sings (in 5th chapter)

Yaa Devi sarva Bhuteshu Lajjaa rupen sansthhitaa

Namastasaye namastasaye namstasaye namoh namah

(The Mother who manifests in all jiva as Lajja please accept my

respects)

 

But to liberate ourselves into universal consciousness, this bondage

has to be removed.

 

3- Bhaya (Fear ) : This third bondage is depicted by demon

Kautivirya. Fear of death, feal of losing respect or nears and dears

keeps the ego busy in Maya and hinders its way towards greater

awareness. Durga Saptashati says Kautivirya is numbered 50. Ten

organs and 5 koshas of body (Pls see my post 5 bodies of the soul in

Saadhnaa club) are the place where fear is generated thus making the

number 50 of Kautivirya demons.

 

4 - Shankaa (Doubt) : this fourth bondage is shown as Dhaumra demon.

all the doubts arise due to distorted or false knowledge. Our 10

organs and 10 mahabhutas (earth, water, air, fire, ether - 5 in

gross and 5 in subtle plane) are their solace hence Shumbha calls

for 100 dhaumra demons to win the war.

Doubt keeps the ego busy thus keeping it entangled in Maya.

 

5- Jugupsa (censure/reproach): When due to false knowledge we see

others as different from us, we censure others to prove us right.

This too is treated as fifth bondage of the Soul. they are also of

100 types as in above para.

 

6- kula (caste): Dauhadri demon denotes proud of being related to

one's birth. Even after listening to Brahma Gyana many times, this

bondage of birth pride does not leave us. Only Mother's kindness can

kill this demon and free us from this chain. they are also of 100

types.

 

7 - Jaati (creed): Demon Kalkeya denotes it. Due to false knowledge,

Jiva is proud of his body being special (e.g. human body, white or

black) This bondage is very powerful and no theroetical knowledge of

God can remove this. Human souls is re-born again and again mainly

due to this bondage. They are also of 100 types

 

8- sheela (Modesty). This bondage is denoted by demon Maurya. The

modesty means Nature of Jiva, an idea Jiva makes about himself and

the universe during the course of his many births. This bondage is

also called Rudra-Granthi. Even after attaining the higher stages of

spirituality, one is not free from this bondage and only removal of

this bondage one is established into Advaita (union with god). An

example of shri Ramakrishna paramhansa will further explain this

bondage. When Guru Totapuri met paramhansa to teach him about

Advaita, and asked him to sit in samadhi, shri Paramhansa saw Mother

Kali only. then guru Totapuri ordered paramhansa to take an

imaginary sword and cut the throat of Mother Kali…Paramhansa was so

fond of Mother kali that he could not do it many times and finally

when he did that, he was lost into Nirvikalpa samadhi a state of

highest consciousness. So removal of this bondage is not easy. Only

god or a god-sent guru can remove this final Bondage from Jiva.

without removing these 8 bondages, Jiva can not know his real self.

People may try to do many types of sadhna, but these sadhnas

sometimes further strengthen the bondages. We have to remember one

thing there that Moksha and bondages both are in fact imaginary.

Getting out of bondages, one would find that there was nothing

called Moksha or bondage and one was already free.

then what is the way out to get ourselves free from these pashas? It

is not easy to get rid of these Pashas. In B.Geeta Bhagwan Krishna

says :-

Vishaya vinivartantey nirahaarasya dehina (The abstemious embodied

self, of course, keeps off sensible objects, but not necessarily the

relish for them.)

 

Is it easy to remove these 8 chains (divided into 720 types) so

easily? What is the way out then? YES there is one way. complete

surrender to the Mother. If we, like Paramhansa present our whole

being to the Mother, we will see that these demons come forward and

present themselves to the Mother for sacrifice on the altar of our

Yajna of Bhakti and liberate our soul towards greater truths.

To begin with, we have first to leave our cunningness, selfishness

and our false pride and surrender unconditionally to the Mother and

request her to break our chains. Mother will not listen to our

request if we first not purify ourselves . Lord Rama says in

Ramcharitmanas.

Nirmal guni jan so mohi pawa

Mohi kapat chhal chhidra na bhava

pious and purifed souls reach me

Because I do not like cunningness, selfishness and pride

 

 

Aum Kring Kalikaye namah

[Guest guest]

Mother

> Kali only. then guru Totapuri ordered paramhansa to take an

> imaginary sword and cut the throat of Mother Kali…Paramhansa was so

> fond of Mother kali that he could not do it many times and finally

> when he did that, he was lost into Nirvikalpa samadhi a state of

> highest consciousness. So removal of this bondage is not easy. Only

> god or a god-sent guru can remove this final Bondage from Jiva.

> without removing these 8 bondages, Jiva can not know his real self

>

> Is it easy to remove these 8 chains (divided into 720 types) so

> easily? What is the way out then? YES there is one way. complete

> surrender to the Mother. If we, like Paramhansa present our whole

> being to the Mother, we will see that these demons come forward and

> present themselves to the Mother for sacrifice on the altar of our

> Yajna of Bhakti and liberate our soul towards greater truths.

> To begin with, we have first to leave our cunningness, selfishness

> and our false pride and surrender unconditionally to the Mother and

> request her to break our chains. Mother will not listen to our

> request if we first not purify ourselves . Lord Rama says in

> Ramcharitmanas.

> Nirmal guni jan so mohi pawa

> Mohi kapat chhal chhidra na bhava

> pious and purifed souls reach me

> Because I do not like cunningness, selfishness and pride

>

>

> Great... extraordinary... out of this world... I dont have words to

praise this one. Jai Maha Kaali! /\

Its of virtue in us to leave ourselves totally to God.