Guest guest Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 .........who created God? PS- Please dont get angry with me, I just read this somewhere! S Kumar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 If god created world, that very line tells us that god is the one who cannot be created. Where ever you saw .. tell this to him. If god created creation, than it is well understood even by idiots, with IQ level below 5 that he is creator, and cannot be created, as he is the one who defines creation. hari.... please cure these minds. I thought i am the only one who is unstable, but now i am happy there are many specimens who are more unstable. hariu , Hari, Vir Harihi, Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam. -- Deito , s_kumar_12345 <no_reply wrote: > > ........who created God? > > PS- Please dont get angry with me, I just read this somewhere! > > S Kumar > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 , s_kumar_12345 <no_reply wrote: > > ........who created God? On YA, this question is put every day.. and i think those who put this question dont know what is god and what is creation. I am sure these are some teenagers who put this question to embrass Christians. This question does not need a reply AUM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 " I " did.... What is I....??? Not body... Not mind.... Not thoughts.... Not emotions... Just find out who that I is within and you will know who created God... ) Love Bala... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2007 Report Share Posted September 16, 2007 There are many ignorants in this world who follow the Western principle of causality, especially by David Hume which states, " Everything has a cause, " and thus stating that God was caused by man. And due to the " Modernist's " denial of God, they don't mind the infinite list of what caused what...but in the very end, there is one, who is true God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 > If god created creation, than it is well understood even by idiots, > with IQ level below 5 that he is creator, and cannot be created, as he > is the one who defines creation. > Thanks to all to those who replied to my question. thats why I said, pls dont get angry, everyone! This line was said by the Dalai Lama, & almost all Buddhists/Tao use it to deny existence of some Higher Being who creates the world, maintains it & destroys it. So are all the Buddhists idiots, or teenagers(as someone else suggested), or pranksters? Again, please dont get angry. Im just asking, as several Buddhists asked me with this question, & I couldnt reply. Getting angry means you lose the argument. S Kumar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 Kumarji, most Buddhists have lost touch with Hinduism, as they mainly live in East Asia. As such, they have a very twisted view of Hinduism- the same that Christians/Muslims have- we worship stones, have unnecessary rituals. They say Buddha came to fix this. They dont realise that Hindus dont believe in a God, in the way that Semitics believe it. The God of the Hindus is more like a Universal Spirit. The correct answer to Buddhists question is, ok then who created the Void? If they say the void always existed, you can say, so did the Spirit. How can a " nothing " create the world? And why would it? Then you can watch the, squirm & feel embarrased. Thats the problem with logics- you can porve/diprove anything with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 <elguapo_marco_2008 wrote: > > There are many ignorants in this world who follow the Western True Seraphic. Quantum Mechanics should have shut down the shop of these " Causality " types, as in QM, things can happen in any sequence, something in future can change what will happen today, you cannot predict anything, as the mere act of observing changes the observed. This is exactly what Tantra says- when we observe something, it only exists if we are observing it. The power of Conciousness is what brings things to life & animates them. This is exactly what QM discovered- an electron/proton behaves differently when a scientist is looking at it in a particular way. This isnt a co-incidence- this experiment has been repeated umpteen times, & the electron always changes its behaviour if someone is observing it. What more proof we need that mind rules over matter, or energy, as QM, like Tantra, says everything is energy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 , s_kumar_12345 <no_reply wrote: > I did not reply in anger, but where ever spirituality is discussed in logics... i dont simply take part. I have seen some glimpses of truth in my meditations, and i have no logics to prove them.... i know i saw and that z for me..not to prove to anyone. With due respect to Dalai Lama, i must say that Buddists are under a very wrong impresssion that Buddha refused the presence of god. When asked by his disciples if God is there... he just kept quiet neither yes nor no. That does not prove anything. May be he did not want to create another confusion in the name of God, hence kept quiet... or may be he wanted all to go and see themselves instead of giving pre-digested information about God. So those buddhists who shout loud that there is no God, have not understood Gautam Buddha. God is undefined and non-prove able (Asiddha). Same happens with Patanjali... in his Yoga Sutras he wrote Ishwar Asiddha...and many take it as if Patanjali said - Hence God is un- proven " and many vaishnavas call him atheists. Patanjali meant - God can not be proved !!!....and I think same Buddha wished to say. Creation ! Those who deny God, have cooked up this word " creation " There is no creation as per Hinduism... God Manifests....does not create. God does not make the worlds...he becomes universe!!! hence this logic of creation does not hold water. So those who are happy with this lame argument...let them be Aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2007 Report Share Posted September 17, 2007 > With due respect to Dalai Lama, i must say that Buddists are under a > very wrong impresssion that Buddha refused the presence of god. > When asked by his disciples if God is there... he just kept quiet > neither yes nor no. That does not prove anything. May be he did True Babaji. What goes on today in the name of Buddhism is actually Chinese/Japanese philosophies mixed with what Buddha said.....in India, Muslim invaders burnt all our libraries & destroyed all texts, so much of what we know about Buddha is from people who escaped to China. Most of Buddhist texts arent availble in Sanskrit, but in Chinese, Tibetan, Japanses. Even the people of these parts accept that when translating from Sanskrit, several things were lost/wrongly translated. The Chinese, highly impressed by Tao, mixed their local teachings with Buddhas. In fact, they dont even give Buddha a high place, saying he was just repeating with Tao was saying. Now Buddha was talking in context of Sankhya, Vedant, & interperting his teachings acc. to Tao will obviously give them a different flavour. I remember this story: Buddha was traveeling with his student. They stopped for breakfast at a house. The man, very religious, talked a lot of God, & asked Buddha " Obviously, you believe in God " . Buddha said " No, its a childish concept. There is no God. " The man was shocked & saddened. Buddhas student was also surprised at his masters bluntness, & how much it hurt the man. For lunch they stopped at another house. This time, their host was an atheist, & made fun of the concept of God. Buddha silenced him " There is a God, I have seen him. You are a fool to disbelieve " . Again the man was surprised. The Student tried to say something, but Buddha cut him off. For dinner they stopped at a 3rd house, where the rich man didnt care about God, only wealth. To him Buddha said, " Forget all this God-vod, this life is the only one, enjoy it " . Before sleeping, Buddhas student couldnt take it any longer. He said, Sir, what do you believe in, God exists or not! Tell me for once. Buddha said, " Those answers werent addressed to you- since you are my student, you are expected to search for yourself! " " However, to ease your confusion, I will explain today. The 1st man had blind belief in God, he had assumed God existed without searching for it. This blind belief had to be broken. The 2nd man also had a blind belief against God. But at least these 2 were serious, just they had stopped looking, & by breaking their confidence I will force them to look again. The 3rd man, however, didnt care either way. His Karma isnt ripe yet, so let him enjoy his wealth! " From this story- you can say Buddha was a theist, atheist, or materialist. Or you can rightly say he was an open minded person, who believed in searching for your own truth, rather than recylcing others. PS- Buddha also said dont build temples, write books or convert people in my name. So why do Buddhists do this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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