The Mangoes & Moksha

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, " i_free_spirit " <i_free_spirit

wrote:

>

> Those who say bhakti is easy are terribly mistaken. Because bhakti

is

> all about sacrifices and pain of seperation

>

> The different yogas shouldnt be compared because they are one.

> In Kaliyuga contamination is great so bhakti is recommended for

 

 

Dear Aradhana thanks.. in such a young age your thoughts are quite

mature. As we are all discussing, there is actually no diff in all

paths..and it depends upon the psyche of a person which path he

choses. centuries ago i wrote here , a parable about mangoes..i

think that needs to be reposted.

 

A Man reaches home in the evening. He has 4 children and have

brought Four mangoes for them. He goes inside and keeps the four

mangoes on the table.

 

One of the children is very naughty he jumps towards the

table...with great difficulties he arranges to ride the table,

snatches one mango from the hands of his father and runs away and

starts eating the mango.

 

The eldest one is studying, he looks askance towards the mangoes

and counts them...and thinks oh so one of the mango is mine... i can

eat it any time i wish..no need to hurry. and he continues his

studies.

 

Third son, when sees the father, he runs to bring a glass of

water for him, takes his umbrella and does some other work happily.

The father calls him with love and gives him one mango.

 

So the first boy is Hathha yogi, he snatches Mango (Moksha) from

the hands of father with his strong efforts. The studying one is

gyani...Gyani knows Moksha is his always...so he continues studying

the various nature's mysteries without rushing for the Mango.

 

The third is a karma yogi, who serves his father, and father

becomes happy with his dedication and gives him a Mango.

 

Where is Bhakta....???

 

well the fourth child is small and so innocent, he does not even

know what a mango is !!! When he sees the father, he runs to his

lap and start playing with him with love... and the father cuts the

mango and puts...small morceau of mango into his tiny mouth...and he

enjoys the mango while playing and enjoying the lap of this father...

 

 

 

AUM

 

 

AUM:

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, " Aum " <beirut_ka_baba wrote:

> Where is Bhakta....???

>

> well the fourth child is small and so innocent, he does not even

> know what a mango is !!! When he sees the father, he runs to his

> lap and start playing with him with love... and the father cuts the

> mango and puts...small morceau of mango into his tiny mouth...and he

> enjoys the mango while playing and enjoying the lap of this father...

 

 

THIS WAS WONDERFUL AUM !! What a great philosophy in simple words.

 

THANKS FOR SHARING.

 

Ansuya

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There can be said to be another, 5th child, who has never seen or

eaten a mango, but read in some scripture as long as he follows some

out of date practices, a Saviour will appear with the mango...

 

This child wants everyone to enjoy the mango, so he is hell bent on

converting others so they can enjoy mangoes too. He has already

invaded 200 countries, killed millions, & he is sure, even if he doesnt

get a mango this life, there is a heaven full of mangoes.

 

When he sees mystics who claim to have eaten a mango, he calls them

crazy, because they dont follow his Prophet/Scriptures!

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, ansuya80 <no_reply wrote:

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> , " Aum " <beirut_ka_baba@> wrote:

> > Where is Bhakta....???

> >

> > well the fourth child is small and so innocent, he does not even

> > know what a mango is !!! When he sees the father, he runs to his

> > lap and start playing with him with love... and the father cuts the

> > mango and puts...small morceau of mango into his tiny mouth...and

he

> > enjoys the mango while playing and enjoying the lap of this

father...

>

>thats so true baba. Bhaktas are so innocent.You ask them what

enlightment and moksha is .They know and care least. Love is all they

understand.

>

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, shanracer <no_reply wrote:

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> There can be said to be another, 5th child, who has never seen or

 

 

LOL...when i wrote this post earlier...my friend wrote - There is 5th

mango too and the fifth child is playing outside...fighting and

enjoying with his friends... he does not know Papa has come home and

has brought a mango for him too..!!

 

But the father keeps 5th Mango in the Fridge...for the child who is

now playing with friends and does not know about father and

mango...but Mango is waiting for him too !!!!

 

What a beautiful point !!!!

 

AUM

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, shanracer <no_reply wrote:

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> There can be said to be another, 5th child, who has never seen or

 

Dearest brother

 

I felt sad to read this post.

To me, one of the most important aspects of my spiritual journey, is

the fact that I am accountable & responsible for me, and me only. I

dont want to point the finger at others (who are on their own,

individual spiritual journey) any more than I want them pointing

fingers at me. I dont want to judge, criticise or mock anyone of any

faith, as to me this is not what a saadhaka should do.

Never forget that when one finger is pointing out, you always have

three fingers pointing at yourself.

 

With love & good wishes to you

 

Farah

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Dear Sister Farah,

 

You are right, we are no one to laugh and contemplate at other Practices.

 

I guess the post you mentioned would have never existed if Muslims

were not so Bent on killing people worldwide, and creating such a

violence. Off course you can tell about world politics to be

responsible, but at ANY cost killing of 100's of innocents and

walking with explosives in all marketplaces doesn't make any justice.

 

See, this aspect is where i like Buddhists and Jain's the most, They

never create trouble for others, and they never try to convert someone

forcefully and also even force religion on them.

 

What they do is show 100% dedication to there path and practices, and

so No one bothers them and nor they bother anyone. The exist in this

world, without anyone hating them.

 

Why cant other religion be the same way.

 

But yes you are true in pointing that, We have no right of any kind,

for laughing at people who are at low intelligence and are doing sins.

 

for the reason that it is decided by lord how much sin they have to do

and how much should they suffer and what all sort of hellish planets

they have to live.

 

Its like a 8th Std boy laughing at the low knowledge of 1 st Std boy,

He should understand that even he was once in 1st Standard. He may be

lucky enough to have passed all these years and have come to 8th

standard, and also he should pray to god to be lucky enough to cover

his further standards. and wish that 2nd std boy the same.

 

you are a revered human, and i have always respected you and On behalf

of all, I ask you to pardon me thinking me to be your small brother

being playful and doing mistakes all the time. Just like a big sister

should do.

 

-- Deito

 

Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam.

 

 

 

, " janfarah_strongspirit "

<janfarah_strongspirit wrote:

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, deito01 <no_reply wrote:

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> I guess the post you mentioned would have never existed if Muslims

> were not so Bent on killing people worldwide, and creating such a

> violence.

 

 

Dear brother

 

Please remember it is not " Muslims " who are bent on killing &

creating violence..... it is " some Muslims. " What percentage of

Muslims do you think really support the killing of innocent people,

really? Maybe less than 1%? Im not sure myself, but you cannot tar

them all with the same brush my brother.

 

Let me share the subject from my perspective. I gave the best years

of my life to a very strict, controlling Muslim family from the age

of 17 to almost 30 years of age. I'll spare you the details, but I

was not treated well. I have no contact with them now at all & I am

free - but nor do I feel any hatred, animosity or bitterness towards

them. It was all part of my spiritual journey - just as sharing this

with you right now is. I learnt a lot - both good & bad - and I

cannot say to anyone that they were 'lost years' because without that

part of my journey, I would not be the person I am today. We don't

learn much if we dont suffer & we learn our most profound lessons

through pain. I should therefore be grateful for the time I spent

with them.

 

Haven't we discussed on Saadhnaa how each soul will choose their

birth & the life events in it? You & I will return many, many times

to be a Muslim, a Christian, a Buddhist, a murderer, an abuser etc,

etc....

 

We dont have to agree with what " some Muslims " do... but lets not

lower ourselves to their level by laughing & mocking at all Muslims -

and always be mindful that for every Muslim terrorist out there,

there are many, many more who are just trying to live their life in

the way that they, in this lifetime, see best.

 

With the greatest of respect & much love to you my brother

 

Farah

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, " janfarah_strongspirit " .....

> but nor do I feel any hatred, animosity or bitterness towards

> them. It was all part of my spiritual journey - just as sharing

 

Farah dear, I am happy to see your deep thoughts that instead of

blaming anyone you are taking it as spiritual upliftment. Indeed it

is wise of you to think on these lines. You actually broke the chain

of Karma by forgiving them.

 

ansuya

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, ansuya80 <no_reply wrote:

>> Farah dear, I am happy to see your deep thoughts that instead of

 

Yesss you are very right ansuya. Faraha's outlook towards the

suffering is like that of a progressed spiritual person...

 

That is why she is StrongSpirit .... LOL

 

Thanks

 

Aum

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> , ansuya80 <no_reply@> wrote:

 

 

Dearest Aum & Ansuya

 

Thankyou - a strong spirit I am indeed... but not so hard I cannot

say things with love, even to those I disagree with, I still love

them as my brothers or sisters. I agree with you Ansuya, there is

always a kind & loving way to say almost everything & if we all

remembered that before we put our fingers to the keyboard then this

place would be less like ' Answers' & more like the 'Saadhnaa' I

have known & loved.

 

For anyone who is not familiar with ' Answers' its a place on

the internet where people spend a lot of time fighting, insulting &

arguing.... if you haven't been there I wouldn't bother! Stay here,

there is a lot more politeness & respect most of the time! :-)

 

With much love & laughter!

 

Farah