Love

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thanks sir for sharing the knowledge

 

what i got from your last posting about the topic love that..

 

1. soul wants superemacy /individuality and want to seperate from

the original nature ( divine or God nature) hence this deviation

results in adulterated love

 

2.then the soul takes birth in other lokas like human

form ,............sometime in Brahmalok for enjoying knowledge ego

 

3. the Lord is supreme enjoyer , and soul in human form is enjoyed

further classified by males and females,.......

 

if i am wrong ,then let me know sir

 

so many questions arised from this posting. and please never mind my

question because i am not somehow convinced but want to be

convinced .thanks

 

questions

 

1. i asked the cause of creation of own lordship hence supremacy of

the soul . soul wants the superemacy is the effect of the cause

which i asked in last posting .

 

i read some other posting too there you have given the concept of

kaaran as the Lord Vishnu . you are exactly right Sir . no doubt at

all that this world is the effect and the cause is the Lord Vishnu.

 

hence one can answer that cause of the superemacy of the soul is the

Lord Vishnu himself . No Sir . because here i want to say that cause

of the origin of the universe is the Lord Vishnu and the cause of

the supremacy of a soul is a different issue, we were talking in a

different reference. and reference is that we were talking about the

present and not the origin .

 

again question remains that what is the real cause of the seperation

of the soul. seperation is the effect in the form of the superemacy

or having own desires /agendas .

 

we were discussing a very good thing which you expressed in the form

of a concept of equation but that does not satisfy. so please think

and let us know the truth .... i think i have not written anything

complex to understand for anyone .

 

2.why soul goes to Brahma lok you have written as to enjoy the ego

ie the knowledge ego .the sole thing to reach in the Brahma lok is

knowledge ego is not convincing to me

 

my question is that does the soul goes to Brahma Lok first after

seperation from the God or it goes first to bhoo lok , and why most

importantly.

 

that is why my views about the love are different perhaps

 

thanks for sharing the knowledge , i think questioner is also

important to know the truth so please never mind and answer like i

am a child ,i can commit mistakes , also i prey to God to forgive me

please if i made any mistake because i do not know weather it is

right or wrong .

 

Hare Krishna ,Hare Krishna ,Krishna Krishna ,Hare Hare,Hare

Rama ,Hare Rama ,Rama Rama ,Hare Hare

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Dear Jitendra,

 

As i have always told, i am also a small kid sleeping at the lotus

feet of the Lord.

 

In reality everyone is the same, and me, you , everyone. So i am very

non-different form you. So mistakes can happen anywhere, , i can

obviously do it, you can do it, so can every manifested entity.

 

Because anything which is limited cannot be perfect, the only reason ,

that my answers seem to be correct is because these are in no way my

answers. They are direct implication of the sutras and revered scriptures.

 

Also, the answer which i always wanted to hide form you, and everyone

else, has been requested by you again.

 

I thought after reading all that you will not ask me the question

about " cause for the soul seeking supremacy and deviating " .

 

Seems, like god wants me, not to hide this form you. But my sole

reason of hiding is , this is not so easily understandable, but very

very very easily mis-understandable.

 

anyways, as the will of the lord, The answer follows :

 

THE REASON AND HENCE CAUSE FOR A SOUL DEVIATING AND ASKING FOR

INDIVIDUALITY AND HENCE ASKING FOR SUPREMACY AND HENCE NOT ACCEPTING

ITS REAL NATURE IS, BECAUSE OF SUKSHMA BIJA.

 

This Sukshma Seed, is indeed sowed by Lord Himself. For his creation.

 

SO THE LORD IS RESPONSIBLE AND BY HIS OWN SWEET WILL MAKES SOUL GET

THE DESIRE FOR DEVIATION.

 

BUT DON'T TAKE THIS WRONG, AND NEVER NEVER NEVER FEEL THAT LORD IS

BAD, AND PLAYING WITH SOULS. THIS WAS MY ONLY SCARE FOR NOT REVEALING

THIS WHENEVER ANYONE ASKED ME.

 

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I AM TELLING THIS OPENLY, BECAUSE I

FELT THAT IT IS LORD'S WILL TO SHARE AND HE WANTS ME DO THIS.

 

I author the following passage for more details, please study the

content of the underlying matter.

 

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let us see who this God and why he purposely induces the desire for

supremacy and individuality in all these soul and make them wander

around in pain in this material universe. My hands are shivering when

i write this, because i am afraid , how many would take this wrong.

But everything happens at his will, so When he wills this, than i

don't have problem typing this down.

 

Note : please pay importance to Adi-Sanskrit Terms in the following

passage and let me know if you have a doubt. Who understands this

right are the luckies of beings, have no doubt about it.

 

who this God and why he purposely induces the desire for supremacy and

individuality in all these soul and make them wander around in pain in

this material universe?

 

Krsna, the Parama Purusha or the supreme Godhead was alone in the

beginning in Vaikunta, the permanent abode (Nitya Vibhuthi). He

created the Leela Vibhuthi (his playground) from a minute part of his

body. From Him came the Maha Vishnu who is in a trance, creating,

maintaining, and destroying thousands of universes (Brahmandas) in

this Leela Vibhuthi. During the time span of one eye blink of Maha

Vishnu, several universes appear and dissolve. In each universe, he

enters as Narayana. From his navel came our Brahma. The God then

instructed Brahma to create various beings in various lokas including

the creation of life in an evolutionary manner on the Earth. These

beings are driven by Athmas (Souls) derived from him. This entire

creation constitutes only a minute part of his existence, and he is

still intact in his original form.

The God exists in five major forms at the same time:

 

1. His original form (as Sriman Narayana or Para Vasudeva) in the Nithya

vibhuthi

2. Vyuha Avatharam: Sankarshana, Anirudha, etc.in each universe

3. Vibhava Avatharam: Rama, Krishna, etc. (incarnations)

4. Antharyami Avatharam: Inside all things

5. Archa Avatharam: Deity Incarnation (Venkateshwara, etc.)

 

He is everywhere and in everything, even in our Athma (soul).

Therefore, he owns everything.

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You are wonderful person, you innocent questions, makes me remember

some of the VERY VERY deep attributes of the divine, and i URGE that

this subject should be read by everyone, with utmost interest, and

this Subject dealing with Nature of the Supreme, is most important not

just for humans, For everyone in Existence.

 

I EXIST By grace and Will of My Lord, My Father, His divinity, The

Nirakara, The nirguna, the Kaarana, The adbutha, the Achintya, The

param, The Supreme tattva, The supreme Gnana, The Supreme Satya, The

Supreme Lakshya, The supreme Binnha ( Difference ) , The supreme

Yagna, The Supreme Kala, The Anantha, The Supreme Tyaga, Teh Supreme

Chitta, The Supreme Ananda, The Supreme Dharma, The moksha, The Prana.

 

Let me know if i have missed anything, obviously i should have, my

abilities are limited you see.. and i am trying to write something

about the one who is without the second, and there is nothing apart

form him.

 

-- Deito

 

 

, " jitendra kumar " <jtin_ja wrote:

>

> thanks sir for sharing the knowledge

>

> what i got from your last posting about the topic love that..

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I remembered three more attributes of my Lord, I was actually doing

abhisheka of his attributes to his lotus feet.

 

He is also , Parama Suddha , Parama Sukha and Parama Kruthi, Parama

Kala and Parama Stuthi and The supreme Kartha and the Supreme Karya

and the Supreme Viraga and also the supreme Sampathya and the Supreme

Krura and the Supreme Daitya and the Supreme Dravida and also the

Supreme Saundarya.

 

Please please let me know what else i have left. I will be thankful.

 

-- Deito

 

Harirnama Harirnama Harirnama Kevalam.

 

, deito01 <no_reply wrote:

>

> Dear Jitendra,

>

[Guest guest]

, " jitendra kumar " <jtin_ja

wrote:

> 1. i asked the cause of creation of own lordship hence supremacy

of

> the soul . soul wants the superemacy

 

Dear Jitinder,

 

Consider Ocean and a droplet of ocean water. Now the drop is

negligible in volume before the ocean. But chemical analyst will

say the drop is just like ocean. Both have same percentage of

Sodium chloride, same percentage of iodine, and other salts....drop

says i am ocean...qualitatively it is correct...quantitavily it is

false.

 

similary God is the ocean and we are drop of it and we have

exactly the same attribute as the Lord himself some of which are :-

 

1- Immortality

2- omni-potent

3- always right

4- free to do anything (free will)

 

Now the little drop has the same percentage of those attributes

but does not know that these attributes are bound by little ego. So

a Jeeva thinks he is immortal, but death knocks and snatches his

body from him

 

Omni-potency is worked by jeeva as if he can do anything and each

person things he is superior to other jeeva, forgetting that other

jivas are also drops of that ocean

 

Always right is deformed by jiva... not taking other jiva's into

account arguing, fighting, killing others to prove he is right

 

Free will also erronuously works in jiva who thinks he has free

will, but forgets that all his desires are presented by Nature and

he only selects one of the choice,...and that choice too is

determined by other factors.... like karma, environments, mind

development etc..and Jiva thinks arrogantly I have free will.

 

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This separation of Jiva from Lord is apparent. Our Ego is a little

curtain between us and Lord...and our Indriyas see outside and keep

us busy out.

 

This separation is apparent and eternal both

 

AUM

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This should be made as pdf or something similar and should be made

accessible to a larger scale.

 

Excellent, all obeisances to the lord, wonderful reading this, very

simple to understand and concrete.

 

-- Deito

 

 

Harihi, Karunamayi, SwayaudBhawi namo Namaha.

 

, " Aum " <beirut_ka_baba wrote:

> Dear Jitinder,

>

> Consider Ocean and a droplet of ocean water. Now the drop is

> negligible in volume before the ocean. But chemical analyst will

[Guest guest]

> 1. for something ie like a property or marks or success /failure

> 2. for someone who is your lover in this world may be wife,

> parents, .....

> 3. for the God

>

> what is the difference in the feelings when you cry for above said

thing

> and what makes you cry ie what do you think when you cry.it is very

> general question hence please consider all the aspects of crying

> whatever you can think and whatever you can recall your memories when

> you cried.

 

>Dear Jitendra,

when you cry for the above two you want to get rid of your grief

when you cry for the last one you love your pain; the other pains have

the purpose to take you to one pain- the pain of love and seperation.

The first two are also pain for God. We wish to cry for God when we are

not able to find him we cry for smaller things.But these pains teach us

to love God sooner or later.What is world without love, joy and pain?

The gyaanis say there is nothing-joy , pain are illusions. Who needs

such gyaana? We want love with its joy and pain

Amen