Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 thanks to all ,so long list who shared their knwoledge and everybody contributed a lot , i can feel that love can not express in words but still ........ love , kam, krodh ,dharma (................own lordship,........) ,..... as you said deito sir that these all exists and constant. suppose you are in pure devine love means others are not present in that state then what creates kam,krodh,dharma(........ ....,own lordships....,). due to which we do not accept the God as father and we want own lordship. according to you it is love ,because of all exist in constant equation, but i am not agree with it that love gives birth to kam krodh ahenkar ...... could you please further clearify . i do not know sir why , but my herat say no love can not give birth to all these .....please clearify it Hare Krishna ,Hare krishna ,Krishna Krishna ,Hare Hare,Hare Rama ,Hare Rama ,Rama Rama ,Hare Hare once again thanks to all for wonderfull reply and great knowledge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2007 Report Share Posted September 12, 2007 All my innocence at his feet . I will try to explain by your grace , Hari, This complex Manifest which is a part of your Material Manifested Equation My lord, Give me strength,My Hari, Mahat- Kaarana, Sarva Lokeika Natha, Adi purusha, purusharha. This si want to share with all, as many people like and study this matter, i am equally blessed. Because any content that explains the nature and manifest details of hari, is hari himself, and understanding this is understanding Krsna himself.. I hereby by his grace declare , both to be non-different , as instructed by his authority. My Pranams to all, Who will study this, all spiritual entities, moving and not-moving. Dear Jitendra, You are absolutely right, Love does not give birth to any of these. voices of instinct are nothing but those voices of the soul which emerge in opposition to something which is wrong, and the soul is not ready to accept. because at last the soul is part of the super soul, and cannot be totally different form it. But, The soul has asked for Individuality, without excepting , its part hood of the whole. The soul has requested for Distance, as it is confident that everything depends on it, and Even lord depends on it. It wants to gain supremacy. Believe me if Lord was capable of giving this supremacy, He would have done that also, Lord is So merciful. But, It is not the nature of the soul, and soul parted, is the part of The maleness or proprietorship of the Lord. It is deviation which brings the other attributes, and also creates Adulteration resulting in so called " adulterated love " . How adulteration takes form of all these kam, krodh etc.. ? By different levels of realization. For example, take Pathala Vasis, or the Living beings in Pathala. They want to enjoy, and Lord over. And hence most of there love, is corrupted with a attribute which we call as " Krodh " and " Kama " . Even humans, wants to lord over, but They are better than these beings and hence they are less adulterated with, only kama and Dharma, and krodha is not involved ( please don't mistake this with the normal anger, i am speakign of anger as part of the love, how kama is part of the love like that ). Dharma is involved because we have desire to become more great. But not rule others at the cose of offering pain to them ( in case of Rakkasha's ) Also the love at Brahma Loka is also adulterated, But How and How much ? Very Less, and Hence it is not adulterated with Kama or Krodha Or Darmha .. than what adulterates Love at the level of Brahma Loka .. the answer is Ego and Knowledge. Yes Knowledge adulterates Love in higher planets. Love is often mixed up with Ego ( individuality ) and Knowledge . this is almost very pure form of love on mass available at the highest planetary systems in material universe. Next is when love is Unadulterated, Means it is also free form Ego, or individuality.. This is difficult to understand until graced by lord.. by so called enlightened ones.. See when even ego is not able to adulterate Love, than these is no distinguishing between the male and female nature.. See how purification of love also takes to the same goal, you merge in Brahma and even further , you regain your original position. can you see the difference. Now i wish to bring one more important stance in front of everyone, By lords permit, and his grace... all delivered by his Lordship.. The different levels of adulteration if caused by different levels of Separation form original nature. Original nature is we are enjoyed, and lord and His planery portions are the only enjoyer. Here in human form we are so much separated form the lord, that there are so mcuh distinguishable sexes, female and male. Females have better position as enjoyers, but in Buloka, even females want to enjoy, but also want to be enjoyed. Males want to enjoy more, though they also know that they are also enjoyed. These point is teh point of enlightenment. When a Bhaktha totally surrenders to the lord, he takes the form of Nature or consort of Lord. This is guptha Gnana, whcih is am flowing here, and is understandable by eligible ones. This is why In Brahma Samithi, it is told that Lord Govindha in the spiritual planets is served by millions of Lakshmi's or Gopis. Also we will want to enjoy as much we want to deviate form original nature, and hence male and female distinguishing. And when the equation related in a small error or anomaly, We see middle sexes like gays, lesbians etc. see how everything sits in perfect harmony, with understanding. Also this is the same reasons, why greatest devotees attain the gopi form of Krsna. There is something beyond this, but is quite complex and also is not intended to be told, and should be realized in separation from the lord, and in pain. That is the best way, but hope by lords grace, at his lordship, i have successfully given a Jist of the arrangement, without confusing all. Off course all these topics are related to Lord Manifestation and hence definitely complex, if someone feels it is simple and comprehend able, than surely that soul is blessed. -- Deito , " jitendra kumar " <jtin_ja wrote: > > thanks to all ,so long list who shared their knwoledge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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