What is Love...

[Guest guest]

Jitinder dear,

 

Maan Radha manifests only when Krishna is there... the lesser

Krishna we are, the lesser Radha we get. Sometimes we cheat a woman

in last birth and in this birth, she breaks our heart to complete

karmic cycle.

 

Love is a very deep thing... a few weeks ago i had written a

detailed article on Love...what it is..and how it is connected with

Moha and infatuation. I am reposting that article..please read it

and then we will discuss further

 

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What is LOVE!!!

 

What is Love ? Is it love which a teenager expressese forced by its

adulthood harmones ? Is it the feeling of the mother for her tiny

child, forced by the genes? Is it a demand of our ego forcing us to

like an individual for some gains ? The force of Love is so powerful

that it has changed history….

 

It was love which made Ranjha, prince of Hazara (now in Pakistan)

work as a cowherd boy in his beloveds kingdom.. It was love which

forced Farhaad to dig a river in mountains to get his love….. It was

love which took head of Mirza, the lover of Sahiba…..it was love

that made Gopis of Vrindavana weep for Krishna…. It was love which

brought blessings on the lips of Christ while being crucified. It

was love that made Ravana fight with Rama……It was Love that made

Tagore write Gitanjali….It was love that Vivekananada used his youth

and energy on spreading the message of god…….and it is love that we

are discussing Love here !!!

 

What is this strange feeling, which overtakes us….makes us a slave

of its design ? Why do we love in the first place ? Be it for lust,

or genetical or biological reasons or selfishness, these lower

feelings are always backed by a strong force callled Love which

translates itself into lower needs due to some reasons…but what is

the powerful force behind it.

 

so when we talk of love, we shud really not think of its lower

manifestations like sex, lust, or selfishness, but try to see the

powerful energy behind them…..the force of Divine Love……what is it ??

In the beginning the Bramha (Paramatama, Paramshiva,Purusha), and

his shakti (the energy, prakrity, durga) remain one….At the time of

manifestation of Universes….Shakti feels itself separated from

Shiva and with the reflection of consciousness, the three gunas

start manifestating themselves…

 

This separation is not real but duality in unity. But while in a

plane where shakti feels itself separated……develops a force of

attraction towards the consciousness.. This force of meeting and

merging back into the supereme consciousness is the Divine Love.

This divine love is present in every form of Shakti on all planes.

shakti is continuously feeling the " Viraha " (or the feeling of

separation), and manifests in different forms, and enjoys the bliss

of merging/meeting of two forms as that of HER merging with Shiva.

So Love is the eternal force of Nature, by which it is manifeting

into different forms.. When we love someone/something, it is the

eternal power of the Shakti which forces us to do so, but the force

is translated by our ego into lust, sex, affection, infatuation,

friendship, greed or anything….but the basic energy of Divine Loves

remains the same in all types of love.

 

So here we see that when we love someone, it is in fact first felt

by " Viraha " . We miss something and then find that feeling of missing

being fulfilled in a person/thing. That feeling of Viraha, is the

key to divine love. The more powerful is the Viraha or the feeling

of separation, the more powerful will be the energy of Love released

by the Kundalini….the more the power of kundalini, the purer and

powerful it will be.

 

And Mother Nature does not work on our translations of this Divine

love into sex or lust or affection. It tries to awake the feeling of

separation in us….to make us more wanting….until the feeling of

separation becomes….uniquly for the Truth/consciousness…. That is

why when we love someone so dearly…with our heart and soul…He/She is

snatched from us….and we go down into the realms of sadness with

Viraha…But Congratulate yourself that Nature has selected u for this

feeling….Change yr subject of viraha…Make HIM your lover (It is in

fact HE who was loved by you in a human form!!)

 

Many sufi saints understood this game of nature, and their

meditation basically started from Viraha. Ghulam farid, baba Bulle

shah, R.N.Tagore, Varis shah are some of the saints of India, whose

songs were full of Viraha or the separation from the supreme. They

knew that the Force of viraha will make them capable of reaching the

Divine love. This divine love has no fears, no demands, no selfish

ends, it does not nourishe ego, no punishments, no sins…..pure love…

for the sake of love nothing else.

 

Shri Krishna, the God Himself, confirmed to the humanity that Divine

love can only be found by Viraha. Gopis of vrindavana who loved shri

Krishna so much were given this Jolt of viraha by shri Krishna when

he left Vrindavana for good. Gopis who could not live without seeing

Krishna for a day had to bear the feeling of separation for

ever…..they wept and when Udhhava the Great Gyani was sent to them

to console,he told them all about Yoga path etc. and asked them to

forget Krishna and worship God. The Gopis at this sang some songs to

tell Udhhava how much they loved krishna.

 

We have some beautiful songs in Local language depicting their love.

In one such songs the gopis sing, "

 

O Uddhava….Please bring the deadliest poisnous snake,

and let us be bitten by these…..

Or let thousands scorpions be made our bed

and make us sleep with them…..

Or throw us down from the highest mountain ….

Or wrap us in the most inflammable clothe and burn us….

we would stand all of these tyrannies….

But Do not ask us not

to love Nand Lala (Krishna)……..

 

In another song they sing , "

 

Kaun Baramh ki jaat,

Gyaan kaa se kaho Udhho…..

Hamre sunder Shyam,

Prem ko marag sudho " ---

 

O Uddhava, who is this Brahma of yours and whom are you teaching

this gyan ? We have a straight path of love…and we have our loving

Krishna waiting for us on the other end….what else we need ? "

 

Do we have such Viraha for God ? do we have such love for God ? If

not let us learn it by Sadhna. When we will make HIM the subject of

our LOVE, all forms of our Prakriti, higher or lower will rush and

grab that love and resonate with our love….and this is what God

wishes us to do !!!!!!!

Hari Om

[Guest guest]

thanks Babaji AND Shantanu sir for beautiful reply

 

 

i am little bit different here about love. just a thinking . please

do not mind it sir.and then comment on it.though i may be wrong , so

please correct it.

 

i think seperation wants something ie have desire to meat someone

and this desire may have some agendas.in my opinion complete

surrender to someone is love.

 

i agree with energy and force concepts. but my question was how to

convert outer energy(subject related to worldly enjoyments) into

divine one again , when you are in love with someone who is in this

world. i have not asked for the love with the God but to a person. i

asked the karmic system.

 

Shantanu sir i think karmas are needed to done , even in love.You

said selfless , that is true. but how can you do selfless karmas

while being in love with someone in this world. is it possible.

 

Hare krishna ,Hare krishna ,Krishna Krishna ,Hare Hare,Hare

Rama ,Hare Rama ,Rama Rama ,Hare Hare

[Guest guest]

, " jitendra kumar " <jtin_ja wrote:

.. but my question was how to

> convert outer energy(subject related to worldly enjoyments) into

> divine one again , when you are in love with someone who is in this

> world. i have not asked for the love with the God but to a person. i

> asked the karmic system.

 

 

Dear Jitinder, What I wrote in my post explained this. In my view

all the loves on physical plane are a reflection of divine love.

 

If you mean to say how to convert the physical love into

divine...then I think the best way is to love a person...not as a

physical being but as manifestation of god. If the person reciprocate

your love...thank god that he replied through that person... if he/she

does not...then thank god for the Viraha..becoz he knows well what to

give you love or viraha, what ever is better for us.

 

Karma do have a role in love game too.. Suppose a girl loved me

in last birth, and i did not care for her...in this birth i may love

her and she will not care for my love...to neutrilise the karmic debt.

 

spiritually all these small loves teach us to learn the divine

love...so we must take all in divine light.

 

AUM