Guest guest Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 Jitinder dear, Maan Radha manifests only when Krishna is there... the lesser Krishna we are, the lesser Radha we get. Sometimes we cheat a woman in last birth and in this birth, she breaks our heart to complete karmic cycle. Love is a very deep thing... a few weeks ago i had written a detailed article on Love...what it is..and how it is connected with Moha and infatuation. I am reposting that article..please read it and then we will discuss further ======================================================== What is LOVE!!! What is Love ? Is it love which a teenager expressese forced by its adulthood harmones ? Is it the feeling of the mother for her tiny child, forced by the genes? Is it a demand of our ego forcing us to like an individual for some gains ? The force of Love is so powerful that it has changed history…. It was love which made Ranjha, prince of Hazara (now in Pakistan) work as a cowherd boy in his beloveds kingdom.. It was love which forced Farhaad to dig a river in mountains to get his love….. It was love which took head of Mirza, the lover of Sahiba…..it was love that made Gopis of Vrindavana weep for Krishna…. It was love which brought blessings on the lips of Christ while being crucified. It was love that made Ravana fight with Rama……It was Love that made Tagore write Gitanjali….It was love that Vivekananada used his youth and energy on spreading the message of god…….and it is love that we are discussing Love here !!! What is this strange feeling, which overtakes us….makes us a slave of its design ? Why do we love in the first place ? Be it for lust, or genetical or biological reasons or selfishness, these lower feelings are always backed by a strong force callled Love which translates itself into lower needs due to some reasons…but what is the powerful force behind it. so when we talk of love, we shud really not think of its lower manifestations like sex, lust, or selfishness, but try to see the powerful energy behind them…..the force of Divine Love……what is it ?? In the beginning the Bramha (Paramatama, Paramshiva,Purusha), and his shakti (the energy, prakrity, durga) remain one….At the time of manifestation of Universes….Shakti feels itself separated from Shiva and with the reflection of consciousness, the three gunas start manifestating themselves… This separation is not real but duality in unity. But while in a plane where shakti feels itself separated……develops a force of attraction towards the consciousness.. This force of meeting and merging back into the supereme consciousness is the Divine Love. This divine love is present in every form of Shakti on all planes. shakti is continuously feeling the " Viraha " (or the feeling of separation), and manifests in different forms, and enjoys the bliss of merging/meeting of two forms as that of HER merging with Shiva. So Love is the eternal force of Nature, by which it is manifeting into different forms.. When we love someone/something, it is the eternal power of the Shakti which forces us to do so, but the force is translated by our ego into lust, sex, affection, infatuation, friendship, greed or anything….but the basic energy of Divine Loves remains the same in all types of love. So here we see that when we love someone, it is in fact first felt by " Viraha " . We miss something and then find that feeling of missing being fulfilled in a person/thing. That feeling of Viraha, is the key to divine love. The more powerful is the Viraha or the feeling of separation, the more powerful will be the energy of Love released by the Kundalini….the more the power of kundalini, the purer and powerful it will be. And Mother Nature does not work on our translations of this Divine love into sex or lust or affection. It tries to awake the feeling of separation in us….to make us more wanting….until the feeling of separation becomes….uniquly for the Truth/consciousness…. That is why when we love someone so dearly…with our heart and soul…He/She is snatched from us….and we go down into the realms of sadness with Viraha…But Congratulate yourself that Nature has selected u for this feeling….Change yr subject of viraha…Make HIM your lover (It is in fact HE who was loved by you in a human form!!) Many sufi saints understood this game of nature, and their meditation basically started from Viraha. Ghulam farid, baba Bulle shah, R.N.Tagore, Varis shah are some of the saints of India, whose songs were full of Viraha or the separation from the supreme. They knew that the Force of viraha will make them capable of reaching the Divine love. This divine love has no fears, no demands, no selfish ends, it does not nourishe ego, no punishments, no sins…..pure love… for the sake of love nothing else. Shri Krishna, the God Himself, confirmed to the humanity that Divine love can only be found by Viraha. Gopis of vrindavana who loved shri Krishna so much were given this Jolt of viraha by shri Krishna when he left Vrindavana for good. Gopis who could not live without seeing Krishna for a day had to bear the feeling of separation for ever…..they wept and when Udhhava the Great Gyani was sent to them to console,he told them all about Yoga path etc. and asked them to forget Krishna and worship God. The Gopis at this sang some songs to tell Udhhava how much they loved krishna. We have some beautiful songs in Local language depicting their love. In one such songs the gopis sing, " O Uddhava….Please bring the deadliest poisnous snake, and let us be bitten by these….. Or let thousands scorpions be made our bed and make us sleep with them….. Or throw us down from the highest mountain …. Or wrap us in the most inflammable clothe and burn us…. we would stand all of these tyrannies…. But Do not ask us not to love Nand Lala (Krishna)…….. In another song they sing , " Kaun Baramh ki jaat, Gyaan kaa se kaho Udhho….. Hamre sunder Shyam, Prem ko marag sudho " --- O Uddhava, who is this Brahma of yours and whom are you teaching this gyan ? We have a straight path of love…and we have our loving Krishna waiting for us on the other end….what else we need ? " Do we have such Viraha for God ? do we have such love for God ? If not let us learn it by Sadhna. When we will make HIM the subject of our LOVE, all forms of our Prakriti, higher or lower will rush and grab that love and resonate with our love….and this is what God wishes us to do !!!!!!! Hari Om Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 thanks Babaji AND Shantanu sir for beautiful reply i am little bit different here about love. just a thinking . please do not mind it sir.and then comment on it.though i may be wrong , so please correct it. i think seperation wants something ie have desire to meat someone and this desire may have some agendas.in my opinion complete surrender to someone is love. i agree with energy and force concepts. but my question was how to convert outer energy(subject related to worldly enjoyments) into divine one again , when you are in love with someone who is in this world. i have not asked for the love with the God but to a person. i asked the karmic system. Shantanu sir i think karmas are needed to done , even in love.You said selfless , that is true. but how can you do selfless karmas while being in love with someone in this world. is it possible. Hare krishna ,Hare krishna ,Krishna Krishna ,Hare Hare,Hare Rama ,Hare Rama ,Rama Rama ,Hare Hare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2007 Report Share Posted September 10, 2007 , " jitendra kumar " <jtin_ja wrote: .. but my question was how to > convert outer energy(subject related to worldly enjoyments) into > divine one again , when you are in love with someone who is in this > world. i have not asked for the love with the God but to a person. i > asked the karmic system. Dear Jitinder, What I wrote in my post explained this. In my view all the loves on physical plane are a reflection of divine love. If you mean to say how to convert the physical love into divine...then I think the best way is to love a person...not as a physical being but as manifestation of god. If the person reciprocate your love...thank god that he replied through that person... if he/she does not...then thank god for the Viraha..becoz he knows well what to give you love or viraha, what ever is better for us. Karma do have a role in love game too.. Suppose a girl loved me in last birth, and i did not care for her...in this birth i may love her and she will not care for my love...to neutrilise the karmic debt. spiritually all these small loves teach us to learn the divine love...so we must take all in divine light. AUM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.