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if there is no free will in the kingdom of the God , means we were

never been there . how it is possible we are not seperated from the

God. if there is a free will in the kingdom of the God , that means we

have thoughts , still it is not possible . then what is the

reality .please tell me what is the truth.

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, " jitendra kumar " <jtin_ja

wrote:

>

> if there is no free will in the kingdom of the God , means we were

> never been there . how it is possible we are not seperated from

the

> God. if there is a free will in the kingdom of the God , that

means we

> have thoughts , still it is not possible . then what is the

> reality .please tell me what is the truth.

 

 

My dear Jitinder, this is a very important and mystic question... if

we have a free will or not. I personally feel, free will itself is

a relative thing... on one plane we have free will on another we dont

 

 

Mother Nature presents us with a choice of some alternatives,

depending upon our karma, our environments and divine plan. We

select one of those alternatives and cry - I have free will !!! i

chose what to do !!

 

Is it really a free will, when the choices presented by Mother

Nature were beyond our control.... we only had free will to select

one of those choices.

 

 

we have to admit that every desire which we think of our own ego's

decision is in fact forced on us by the Universal system. Our desire

will be called free, when it will coincide with the desire of

the Excellent and will not be checked by any boundaries.

 

Our desire can only be called a free will if it is not checked by

the universal energies and by its gunas as also not by time and

space. But the ego that desires is himself not an independent

entity, hence no desire can be a free desire if it is emanating from

the ego.

 

 

AUM

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Jitendarji, I agree with Babaji but I would like to add my 2 cents.

 

At any given time, we are wearing the iron chains of Karma around our

neck, which drags us around, & forces us to do all sorts of actions.

The 9 planets, the Lords of Karma, have the power to manipulate our

minds directly.

 

Then we have the Rakshas(low level demons), & low level Devas, who

dont want to be born here, but want to play here, so try to control us

by remote control. This is done mainly by firing thoughts at us, &

convincing us they are our thoughts.

 

Then you have High level Asuras & Devas, who fight for long term

dominance of all planes, & use us as tools.

 

Then finally, there is the Universal Spirit, which has its own unknown

plans.......

 

Even if then we claim we have free will, we are fools!

 

love,

Shantnu

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