Guest guest Posted September 5, 2007 Report Share Posted September 5, 2007 Namashkar, Recently I was looking through some books- when I found that most of modern Hinduism is based on what Saints born in the 19th-20th century taught, how they interpreted Hinduism. If you buy a book on Hinudism, it will be written either direct by the following, or one of their followers : Vivekanand, RamaKrishna Paramhans, Yoganand, Lahiri Mahashya, Shivananda, Aurobindo, Prabhupad, Raman Maharishi, Tagore... this is just a very small list that I can remember. All these were born in late 19th/early 20th century. They all rejected social evils like caste. They all believed in doing our duty, & not running away from world. Some like Vivekananda were social reformers, while others like Sri Aurobindo were fiery nationalists. They all preached unity of the 3 paths- Bhakti, Gyan & Karma. Ramakrishna was also a great Gyani, while Aurobindo, an intellectual if there ever was one, wrote the most beautiful bhakti poetry. Raman, who preached pure Vedant/Gyan Yoga, recommened his followers should continue their jobs/social life(Karma) while meditating. What astrological factors allowed so many great souls to be born in such a short time(100 years is nothing in the Universal time)? Will there another time when such great souls are reborn? Will Hindus be able to implement the teachings of these Masters, or will we again fall into Tamogun that caused us to suffer for last 1000 years, & destroyed our once great civilisation? All members, feel free to give your views. I see we have 100's of members, but only 3-4 actually post anything. Dont feel embarassed- we are all students here, there is no Guru. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 , shanracer <no_reply wrote: > All these were born in late 19th/early 20th century. They all social life(Karma) while meditating. > > What astrological factors allowed so many great souls to be born in > such a short time(100 years is nothing in the Universal time)? > Good observation shanracer, This is true that all these saints came in a particular time...and what is their astrological significance... i realy dont know But i observed one thing... in sixties, whenever I went with my grandmother to listen to some saint, i always observed teethless oldies sitting there...half of them sleeping, and most talking or drowned in thoughts. and now i see younger people going to lectures of saints. The youth of today is far more spiritually awakened than the youths of yesteryears. In west Hindu/buddhist philosophy is slowly taking over, specially the educated class. Yoga and Meditation is not taken as Blasphemy by many people.... Are these good signs ?? I think, the more the Kaliyuga the real saints will stop coming to the public. If we go by Bhavishya puran, the Dharma will be on decline... and one day spiritual people will hide from atheists. But let us be optimistic...and cross this ocean of manifested world in this birth...Amen love Aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 > I think, the more the Kaliyuga the real saints will stop coming > to the public. If we go by Bhavishya puran, the Dharma will be on > decline... and one day spiritual people will hide from atheists. This seems a paradox, Babaji. All our scriptures point to a dark Kaliyug, yet as you said, people are becoming more spiritual, they now have more sources in information. Sitting in my home, I can read all the Vedas, Upanishads, Gita, Purans, Mahabharat, Ramayan, everything. In ancient times, power lay in the hand of those who could get rare copies of secret books. Nowdays, this isnt so. There are 100s of books on meditations. People who spend years meditating write a book on it sharing their secret experiences, while in ancient times you would have to spend decades looking for a real Guru who could share his experiences. Knowledge has lost its power- knowledge can be had easily in Kaliyug. But wisdom is still rare. So, if people are getting more spiritual, knoledge is easily available, how can we then envision the dark periods when spiritual people will be humiliated & attacked, as our scriptures say? Surely, it should be opposite? Love, Shantnu PS If there are any astrologers(I know there are, as people have put up good posts on astrology some time ago)- pls share with us if there were any special combinations that allowed so many great souls to take birth in such a short time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 , shanracer <no_reply wrote: > > > I think, the more the Kaliyuga the real saints will stop coming Information has lost its meaning now. Wisdom is required...and real wisdom cant be had from books...that z why we need Sadhna Aum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2007 Report Share Posted September 6, 2007 Dear Baba I think this may help you to analyse the birth charts of few great people born as Shanracer mentioned Ramana Maharshi Natal Chart December 30, 1879 Time: 1:00:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 78 E 15' 00 " , 9 N 50' 00 " Pondicherry, India Altitude: 0.00 meters Lunar Yr-Mo: Pramathi - Margasira Tithi: Krishna Dwitiya (Mo) (94.50% left) Vedic Weekday: Monday (Mo) Nakshatra: Punarvasu (Ju) (38.11% left) Yoga: Indra (Ra) (21.16% left) Karana: Taitula (Me) (89.00% left) Hora Lord: Sun (5 min sign: Sc) Mahakala Hora: Sun (5 min sign: Pi) Kaala Lord: Moon (Mahakala: Moon) Sunrise: 6:36:05 (December 29) Sunset: 18:02:09 (December 29) Janma Ghatis: 45.9962 Ayanamsa: 22-11-09.57 Sidereal Time: 7:14:31 Swami Ramakrishna Paramahansa Natal Chart February 18, 1836 Time: 6:44:00 Time Zone: 5:51:00 (East of GMT) Place: 87 E 44' 00 " , 22 N 53' 00 " Altitude: 0.83 meters Lunar Yr-Mo: Manmatha - Phalguna Tithi: Sukla Dwitiya (Mo) (72.06% left) Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju) Nakshatra: Poorvabhadra (Ju) (83.13% left) Yoga: Siddha (Ke) (81.40% left) Karana: Balava (Mo) (44.12% left) Hora Lord: Jupiter (5 min sign: Ar) Mahakala Hora: Jupiter (5 min sign: Sc) Kaala Lord: Jupiter (Mahakala: Jupiter) Sunrise: 6:35:02 Sunset: 17:54:02 Janma Ghatis: 0.3734 Ayanamsa: 21-33-55.13 Sidereal Time: 16:32:05 Swami Sivananda Natal Chart September 8, 1887 Time: 4:16:00 Time Zone: 5:11:00 (East of GMT) Place: 77 E 40' 00 " , 8 N 48' 00 " Altitude: 0.00 meters Lunar Yr-Mo: Sarva-jit - Bhadrapada Tithi: Krishna Shashthi (Ve) (99.59% left) Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me) Nakshatra: Bharani (Ve) (29.50% left) Yoga: Vyaghata (Ve) (59.38% left) Karana: Garija (Ju) (99.17% left) Hora Lord: Moon (5 min sign: Sc) Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Li) Kaala Lord: Saturn (Mahakala: Saturn) Sunrise: 5:54:35 (September 7) Sunset: 18:02:06 (September 7) Janma Ghatis: 55.8923 Ayanamsa: 22-17-07.84 Sidereal Time: 3:22:28 Swami Vivekananda Natal Chart January 12, 1863 Time: 6:33:00 Time Zone: 5:54:00 (East of GMT) Place: 88 E 30' 00 " , 22 N 40' 00 " Altitude: 0.44 meters Lunar Yr-Mo: Dundubhi - Pushya Tithi: Krishna Sapthami (Sa) (49.89% left) Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su) Nakshatra: Hastha (Mo) (44.19% left) Yoga: Atiganda (Mo) (23.48% left) Karana: Bava (Su) (99.78% left) Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Pi) Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Aq) Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Moon) Sunrise: 6:46:39 (January 11) Sunset: 17:29:36 (January 11) Janma Ghatis: 59.4314 Ayanamsa: 21-56-57.30 Sidereal Time: 13:57:05 Swami Jayendra Saraswati Natal Chart July 18, 1935 Time: 19:00:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 79 E 26' 00 " , 10 N 42' 00 " Altitude: 0.16 meters Lunar Yr-Mo: Yuva - Ashadha Tithi: Krishna Tritiya (Ma) (28.91% left) Vedic Weekday: Thursday (Ju) Nakshatra: Dhanishtha (Ma) (15.78% left) Yoga: Ayushman (Ke) (25.54% left) Karana: Vishti (Sa) (57.82% left) Hora Lord: Moon (5 min sign: Ge) Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Ar) Kaala Lord: Moon (Mahakala: Moon) Sunrise: 6:01:24 Sunset: 18:35:03 Janma Ghatis: 32.4415 Ayanamsa: 22-57-40.79 Sidereal Time: 14:29:27 Maharshi Mahesh Yogi Natal Chart January 12, 1917 Time: 8:50:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 79 E 57' 00 " , 23 N 10' 00 " Altitude: 0.00 meters Lunar Yr-Mo: Nala - Pushya Tithi: Krishna Chaturthi (Me) (56.31% left) Vedic Weekday: Friday (Ve) Nakshatra: Magha (Ke) (25.60% left) Yoga: Ayushman (Ke) (10.52% left) Karana: Bava (Su) (12.62% left) Hora Lord: Mercury (5 min sign: Cn) Mahakala Hora: Moon (5 min sign: Pi) Kaala Lord: Saturn (Mahakala: Saturn) Sunrise: 6:57:45 Sunset: 17:39:23 Janma Ghatis: 4.6771 Ayanamsa: 22-42-10.61 Sidereal Time: 16:04:00 Mahatma Gandhi Natal Chart October 2, 1869 Time: 7:20:00 Time Zone: 4:39:16 (East of GMT) Place: 69 E 49' 00 " , 21 N 37' 00 " Altitude: 0.00 meters Lunar Yr-Mo: Sukla - Bhadrapada Tithi: Krishna Ekadasi (Ma) (7.44% left) Vedic Weekday: Sunday (Su) Nakshatra: Aasresha (Me) (14.92% left) Yoga: Sadhya (Ve) (63.15% left) Karana: Balava (Mo) (14.89% left) Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Aq) Mahakala Hora: Venus (5 min sign: Cp) Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun) Sunrise: 5:55:01 Sunset: 17:43:23 Janma Ghatis: 3.5409 Ayanamsa: 22-02-04.22 Sidereal Time: 8:03:26 These details are for your analysis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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