BHAKTI (CONTD)-Dear Balachander Govindaraghavan

September 4, 2007

Babaji...

What little i have done surely pales in front of giants like yourself.....

In my opinion sakshi bhava leads to thoughtless stage and in a thoughtless

stage one will be in continuous sakshi bhava... They are actually two phases

of the same thing....

It the same as Shiva shakthi....

If you get lost in the void.. you become thoughtless and only the witness

remains...

Only the witness remaining is Sakshi bhava....

The void is shiva and the witness shakthi... In my opinion they are one and

the same...

Their interplay creates everything....

This remind me of something I saw on nat geo....Scientists have recently

found that the Quanta... Which are supposed to be the basic building blocks

of matter / energy seem to suddenly originate from nowhere and disappear

into nowhere.. due to no apparent cause....

It sounds to me like shakthi emerging from shiva and merging back into

him... Without leaving a trace....

Would love to hear your enlightened comments...

Love

Bala...

On 9/4/07, beirut_ka_baba <no_reply > wrote:

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> What do you think... No thought is better or sakshi bhava is

> better, which is easy and faster.

September 5, 2007

Dear Nitin,

Everything in this world is a point of view. Terrorism is also a point of

view.

Terrorists also reach great heights.. because of their inherent focus.

But they cause suffering and bondage to millions.

When you talk about the thoughtless stage... then there is no problem....

it is the great equalizer.

But a fanatic intrinsically fills himself with more and more baggage..

Emotional, mental, spiritual, etc.

It again depends on what is the Great Height you are referring to.....

The bottom line is if it seems ok to you you will go ahead and any amount

of discussions are a just a waste of time.

Love

Bala..

On 9/5/07, Nitin Dhawan <nitin wrote:

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> What would you say about fanaticism then? Isnt that a point of

September 8, 2007

Dear Balachander Govindaraghavan,Please Accept my Humble Obiesances!

Please know,I tryed to answer your Letter ,Unoffensive,and If I did not Succeed,Please forgive me! I have no desire to argue or fight with anyone on this Great Saadhnaa Group,I just felt it was my duty to answer to anyone ,who offends, my Gurudeava!

As being born american,an not knowing the Hindu,or Vaisnava way of life ,in my country,I am very blessed,to have Known about Krsna,Only By Being in Srila Prabhupada's presance,and Reading His books,and meeting one of Srila Prabhupada's Diciples,Radhanath Swami Maharaja!He personally took me under his wing,and We became very close Friends,When we both lived at New Vrndavana,In West Virginia! He is now my Diksa Guru,as I was Very fearfull of Being in any organized Religion! So,Even Being in Srila Prabhupada's Presance,I never Thought of Him Passing His Body,So i thought id wait awhile, to Surrender Fully!It seems So silly now,As I was a hippy, and a Young Man,only 16 Years old,I was so attached to my long Hair I waited!So,even though I accepted Srila Prabhupada,As my Siksa Guru,I waited too long,and Missed being inisiated By His Divine Grace,Srila Prabhupada!So,He is Technically My Grandfather Guru,and the term Jagad Guru ,Also Fits Him!

It was said In the scriptures,"Only by the Mercy of the Spiritual Master,can We understand Krsna" also."My Guru Forced my eyes open with the Torchlite of Knowledge,so I had the Eyes to see Krsna".I know they are not perfect Quotes,But im sure You get the Idea!If not for Srila Prabhupada comming to America ,I would Still be looking for God,Not Finding relief in any religion Here!Now,I even understand Christiannity!There is One God,But as he is unlimited,So are His Names,and incarnations unlimited! Thank You for Your Reply!

Hare Krsna,with Love,Your Servant,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Jaya Kesava Dasa

Jai Radhe! Jai Krsna!

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Balachander Govindaraghavan

Monday, September 03, 2007 7:32 AM

Re: Re: BHAKTI (CONTD)

Dear kesava...May God bless you. I expected a stronger reaction from ISKCON friends.. Youare indeed very mild.In any case...I did not insult Prabhupada.. I just disagreed with him. Itis my right and India is a free country.Just because Prabhupada disagreed with many bhakthas of other paths... Itdoes not mean he will go to hell.The basis of sadhana is freedom and any group that tries to destroy it usingthreats is fanatic... Whatever you might think of that.Also.. At the age of 70 going around the world is a brave thing to do...Iaccept I cannot do it.... that is because it is not in my philosophy..Just yesterday 2 indian airforce pilots went aound the world in 80 days.. ina microlight aircraft.. That I am sure prabhupada could not have done...forget 70.. even at the age of 20.!!!Different people do different things...In any case... If hell involves freedom of thought and speech... I think youfellows are looking for enlightenment in the wrong place!!!!!You have a funny bone for sure... You say you cannot curse... but just theline before... u say i will go to hell !You claim to be the servant to all sadhana members.. that includes me tooo..so as per your words... you are berating and being abusive to yourmaster.... Funny!!!! dot take it seriously I was jut joking.... I am masterto none but my self....and servant to none but my conciousness...Anyway dont worry.... You will NOT go to hell... If people went to hell forminor things like this.... then hell will for sure be over crowded....I Love you and pray that you get all success in your sadhana...LoveBala....On 9/7/07, Jaya Kesava Dasa <krsnajoe (AT) frontiernet (DOT) net> wrote:>> Dear Balachander Govindaraghavan,Your Remarks about my Gurudeava,Srila