Gyan Yoga

[Guest guest]

, " Balachander Govindaraghavan "

<balachand wrote:

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> Gnana yoga mens the yoga of understanding... Not the yoga of

knowledge as

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> Bala...

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Dear Bala, please know that it is not an ashrma when i as swamiji

am lecturing... it is a place to share. I am as much a student as

you all are... so any question put here is open for all to share

their views.

 

But let me thank you for putting such a beautiful answer

as " Gyan means the yoga of understanding..not the yoga of knowledge. "

 

In todays time most of the people take Gyan yoga as reading

books and knowing about God and satisfying themselves that they

know. This is certainly not Gyan Yoga. Information can not be

wisdom.

 

Gyan Yoga is as important as Bhakti, karma or tantra. Gyan

yoga is taken by them whose mind and intelligence is main faculty to

work with. Like those who are emotional and work through heart opt

for Bhakti and will not succeed in Gyan yoga similarly those with a

logical mind, would not get success in Bhakti (it is for the

beginning only).

 

Our scriputres tell a lot about Gyan Yoga. Neti-Neti, the

famous Vakya of Shruti tells abt Gyan yoga that we have to reject

step by step those things which are not consciousness. Gyan Yoga

has its own sadhna, though difficult. A gayn Yogi tries to see the

reality behind the veil of Universe and identifies himself with the

supreme consciousness.

 

But Gyan Yoga has its own pitfalls. As Shri Krishna warned in

gita that those who worship the attributeless, nameless and formless

god get enlightenment with great difficulties.

 

I personally feel that we must not proceed with only Gyan or only

Bhakti as both have their pitfalls as inflation of ego and

fanaticism.

 

Gyan Yoga if done with a little bit of Bhakti, gives better

resulsts... because in the end both meet at a place.

 

A Gyani if does not develop love for the Supreme is incomplete

a bhakat if does not develop gyan, is incomplete.

 

See the Bhaktas like Hanuman, Mira bai, Kabir... they were more

Gyanis than many so called Gyanis. Bhakti yoga in its peak brings

Gyan yoga into bhakti and Gyan yoga in its end brings Love for god.

These two can not be separated.

 

Pure and dry intellectualism is not Gyan Yoga. gyan yoga is

understanding the Tattwas of Sankhya and realise the 3 gunas of

Nature and see the difference between the consciousness and Nature.

 

The height of both Gyan and Bhakti is found in Tantra Yoga or

Siddha Yoga....where world is not taken as Maya or illusion. Where

mind is not taken as a hinderance, but a tool of Soul. Where whole

creation is taken as a Dance of Ardhanarishwara. That worship of

Ardhanarishawar...the duo of shiva and shakti manifesting as

universe can take us to the real Gyan and to real Bhakti.

 

But each of us have to follow our own path, depending upon our

past karma, our desires, and God's grace finally !!@!

 

Hari Aum

[Guest guest]

Dear baba ,

what you feel and have said seems very accurate since the scriptures

also confirm the same.

Shirdi Sain Baba(incarnation of God) says: " no mattter how much you

learn from Vedas, Shastras etc unless the seeds of God's pure love

(bhakti) sprout in your heart you can not reach God "

 

The bhakta develops gyaana or intutive wisdom as bhaki purifies him

whereas the gyaana yogis learn to love God as they progress in

knowledge.

Bhakti leads to gyaana automatically.

Now lord Shiva is the greatest of yogis as well as the greatest of

devotees. Although he is gyaana personified he weeps and laughs in

the transcedental love of God.One who says that Shiva must be bereft

of knowledge because he cries and laughs unlike a gyaani(ie isnt

away from joy and grief) must be a fool.So its incorrect to say that

bhakti or devotion is a lower form of sadhna.

A saint said: " gyaana and devotion are the two fingers that the child

or jeeva who has visited the fair of this world must hold lest he

might get lost. If on the way he looses touch with gyaana bhakti

will come to his rescue and if he looses touch with bhakti gyaana

will be there for his rescue "

 

Even some of the gopis were nitya sidhdhas and some were the rishis

whom Krishna had met earlier as Lord Rama in treta. Even a gyaani

like Uddhav was extremely distressed despite all his gyaana when

Lord Krishna left prithvi.While he was in Vrindavan he would think: "

may I become the blades of grass and be able to touch the feet of

gopis without their coming to know of this "

 

Lord Krishna says- " a wise man never thinks gyaana and yoga to be

different only a foolish one thinks so.Situating in one gives the

results of both "

In any kind of yoga I think that the inspiration for progress is

love for god be it in Saguna or Nirguna rupa. The love of nirguna

brahmn is gyaana and love of saguna is bhakti. One I feel needs to

love both.

 

regards

[Guest guest]

Gurudev Humble Obeisances.

 

The illustrations are absolute. Along with Gyan and Bhakti, if Karma is added

then devotion in real sense will be complete, as I feel. Know the Supreme by all

means, understand Him as far as one can.

 

Worship with full devotion, shraddha and faith. What ever understood, share with

fellow ones and put His advise / intentions in to real life practicaly. Real

practical may be Kirtana, Purports, Selfless service of society, honesty and

full fledged efforts in every work to earn livelihood/bread and butter. Sharing

whatever earned with all fellow ones and needy ones.

 

If devotee goes by this way, I feel, he will very well advance in Bhakti. Kindly

put more light on this and oblige. Heartful regards. Keshav.

 

beirut_ka_baba <no_reply > wrote:

, " Balachander

[Guest guest]

, keshav daund <keshav_daund wrote:

Keshav ji,

 

gurudev i am sure you are addressing to the Supreme inside us.

 

sharing is my vrata, my vow before Shakti that whatever she teaches

me, i will share with eligible people

 

and you have deep understanding of Shakti... please elaborate

something on shakti or 10 mahavidyas

 

Aum

[Guest guest]

, " i_free_spirit " <i_free_spirit

wrote:

> Lord Krishna says- " a wise man never thinks gyaana and yoga to be

> different only a foolish one thinks so.Situating in one gives the

> results of both "

> In any kind of yoga I think that the inspiration for progress is

> love for god be it in Saguna or Nirguna rupa. The love of nirguna

> brahmn is gyaana and love of saguna is bhakti. One I feel needs to

> love both.

 

Aradhana this is exactly what i wished to say. thanks

 

Now a days a new breed of so-called gyanis have come who after

reading a few books, think they have become gyanis. since such people

are highly educated and are well placed... they take bhaktas as

stupids.

 

In our group we had many such dry intellectuals who just loved to

argue and put forth their point. Another came and declared himself to

be enlightened through gyan. Pinched a little and our enlightened

soul started abusing all here.. LOL (these incidents happened long

ago if you check old posts of 2001 or so you will find interesting

arguments..by such dry intellectuals)

 

It is better to be an atheist than a hypocritic. So we have to

see both. Rather I would say Bhakti is supreme in Kaliyuga.

 

with good wishes

[Guest guest]

Babaji,

 

How long have u been doing sadhana and what is your main type of sadhana

Just curious

 

Love

 

Bala...

 

On 8/29/07, beirut_ka_baba <no_reply > wrote:

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> <%40>,

> " i_free_spirit " <i_free_spirit

[Guest guest]

Rev. Gurudev, Humble Obeisances.

Really speaking, I am just a beginner in this path and much inspired by your

posts. You are Real Leader for us. As instructed, I am not vell versed with

Shakti Sadhana hence, pardon me, unable to write about 10 Mahavidyas. In future

I will study thoroughly and let all our group know about it. Regarding Shakti,

I hare read Shri. Durga Saptashati three or four times and Shakti has helped me

much after that.I am more attracted to Devi Suktam(Tantrokta) Ratri Suktam

(Tantrokta) and Shri Durga Kavacham which I recite at least once in a week and

Ratri Suktam daily. My office work & timings do not permit me to devote more

time. Shakti is chetana/power of our life. To keep it powerful we have to do

daily Sadhana, fixed time & place, asanam & direction. It is because of Shakti

we do every activity of our life, even right thinking, right perceptions, right

decisions and all. What we call Buddhi or intellect, it is Shakti only. Power of

reasoning, logic, actions, decisions,

giving-taking, love-hatred, smiling-weeping, learning-teaching,

speaking-listening, wishing and accepting of greetings and all.Every sadhaka

should fix it in mind that unless he has a sight to see every opposite gender as

'Mother', no advancement is possible. We must drink and digest the nector of " Ya

Devi Sarva Bhuteshu Matru Repen Sansthita, Namastasyai, namastasyai,

namastasyai, namo namah " which means my three times humble salutations to the

Godess, who is residing in every creature in the form of The Mother. Here mother

means motherly caring and loving feelings and activities as well as sense of

'my-ness' with every one. 'My son, my daughter, my brother, my sister, my

teacher. Every where 'my' with loving & caring intention. Unless we develop this

feeling, we can not love ourselves or others. Others are not others but our

devine brothers/sisters those are sent by The Mother to take my care and love

me, I am given a chance to love and care them. They are all mine and

I am theirs. When we stand before The Mother in temple, every body standing

like us call her 'mother'. This feeling, when combined together, everybody of us

are related to each other by a devine relation 'brothers & sisters' irrespective

of cast, colour, creed, nationality, place, position, status, gender, age. All

are on equal platform. When we develop this feeling purposefully in devine

spirit, we are eligible to get Her grace and we are eligible to see the whole

world as Her creation, the universal feeling of myness. When we think over this

again and again, we try to put it into actual practice and our vision to see

others is amazingly changed. Our way of thinking, way of worship and way of

living is thoroughly changed beyond our conception. This will open the gates of

" Universal Brotherhood " which is the earnest and genuine desire of our Vedas.

Gurudev, by the grace of The Mother, I personally take care in my life, at home

and in office also. As stated earlier, I am just a beginner and trying to earn

more and more from learned ones like you. Please guide me. Heartful regards.

= Keshav.

beirut_ka_baba <no_reply > wrote:

, keshav daund <keshav_daund

wrote:

Keshav ji,

 

gurudev i am sure you are addressing to the Supreme inside us.

 

sharing is my vrata, my vow before Shakti that whatever she teaches

me, i will share with eligible people

 

and you have deep understanding of Shakti... please elaborate

something on shakti or 10 mahavidyas

 

Aum

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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