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Why are our heart longing towards god? forexample, " A " is a person who

is very near to temple. so " A " visit temple daily and enjoys gods

durshan. But " B " is a friend of " A " who is very far away, feels

that " B " cannot go to temple and see gods durshan. " B " is very

spiritual. " B " knows god is in " B " 's heart. Still " B " feels that " B "

could not go to temple. Why is our heart longing to see god, when he

is inside our heart,our mind and everything we see. Is it that are we

not seeing god from heart, that's why we long to see the god in

temple?

 

Please bear it with me if my english is wrong. if wrong, correct me.

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B should build a small temple in her home with small Murtis/photos

easily available from internet or shops...that way she wont have to

miss going to Temple.

 

God in heart is good in theory, but in practice, one may feel the need

to visit temples. Visiting temples is not just about getting Darshan,

but also doing Satsang with other like minded religious people.

 

However, if this is not possible, one can always do Satsang in online

groups like these.

 

love

Shantnu

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Shanracer sir,

 

What is satsang mean? We see god in everything we see and talk and

enjoy.I felt there is no need for B to build a small temple in home or

elsewhere. when B's heart itself a temple. Then how can B be longing

to see god in temple? I mean why is B's heart still search god in

temple while god resides in his heart as a temple?

 

 

, shanracer <no_reply wrote:

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Going to temples is a very basic concept of Sadhna. God is not only

in temples but in our hearts too. But for a common person going to

temple is important as we get holy vibrations there and thus start

our journey towards spirituality.

 

God is every where, but he does not show himself openly. Just by

thinking god is in our heart so we should not go to temples etc...is

another hypocracy. Once we have realised (realised...not mentally

thought) that god is in us, we will see him everywhere....till then

temples, and pilgrimage will help in this realisation

 

The problem with modern people is that they stress more upon

mind. They read some books and their mind and intellect is

satisfied that god is everywhere, and they leave their search.

 

I know very well the powers of george bush,...i also know what a

president of america can do.. but knowing it does make me a

president of USA. I will know and realise the powers of president

only when I am on that seat.

 

similarly knowing about God and his attributes will not do....we

have to realise HIM... and Sadhna is the way.. not books

 

 

with love

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respected baba ji ,

namaskar,

 

very well said that we have to realise HIM through sadhna and not by books.

 

for people like us, who are so puzzled and yet sincerely want to follow the

path of sadhna, plz throw light as what to do and what to not, and how

specifically to perform sadna,

 

in case answer is too long, plz suggest a site or web page.

 

however i am going through all of ur messages previously posted on

board but still have not succeded,

 

plz guide.

 

hari om

 

beirut_ka_baba <no_reply > wrote:

Going to temples is a very basic concept of Sadhna. God is not only

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, samir sharma <samir_sharma5

wrote:

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Dear Samir,

 

Each person has a differnt psychic system and certainly one set

of sadhna can not fit to all

 

I do my sadhna and getting results, will not mean the same wil

work for you too, as we have different sent of old karmas.

Basically in a general terms one should start with chanting of a

mantra (any mantra which suits you or is liked by you)...it can be

Shiva, shakti or krishna mantra...and a little bit of Pranayama to

start with.

 

As i wrote earlier, on founder's home page there is an

article " Sadhna for beginners " . It gives a gneral idea as how to

start sadhna.... do it till you get a guru for further guidance.

 

Hari Aum

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Samirji,

 

For a start, try reading our group founders homepage, link available

on Home page of this group.

 

To begin with, start any Sadhna. Ideally, this should be 1 main

mantra, Pranayam, & some Dhyan meditation, like concentrating between

eyebrows(3rd eye).

 

You have to do this simple excersises daily for at least 1/2 hour(or

15 min in beginning), no excuses, for at least 2-3 years, before your

mind & Pran become calm enough to do advanced excercises. As they say,

when the student is ready, the Guru appears.

 

But most people, get bored or dissapointed, & leave half way, which

means they never get any result.

 

the key is keep preservering, till one day the door suddenly opens, &

one sees the hidden secrets of the Soul. But this process takes time-

as I said, first 2-3(maybe even more) years, one sees no results, yet

the Sadhna is working secretly inside, clearing our bad Karma so we

can get a boost.

 

love,

Shantnu

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Om Namah Shivaya,

Pranam Babaji.

With respect to your post :

 

> I know very well the powers of george bush,...i also know what a

> president of america can do.. but knowing it does make me a

> president of USA. I will know and realise the powers of president

> only when I am on that seat.

>

> similarly knowing about God and his attributes will not do....we

> have to realise HIM... and Sadhna is the way.. not books

 

Literally asking does the Saadhna path - Gyana Yoga yoga based on

knowledge of god is not enough to relise him. Please let me know

Gyana Yoga is knowledge based similar to Bakthi yoga which is to

realise him thro Bakthi- luv - viraha?

 

Pls do explain about Gyana yoga.

 

Thanks.

Shivaya Namah Aum.

Thiruchitrambalam.

Senthil.

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Samirji,

 

I have another suggestion.

 

One can set aside an hour every day for " Sight seeing "

 

What Is meant by that is to watch your body, thoughts and emotions

Just go on observing what is hapening in your mind

Do not debate with your thoughts

Do not classify them as good or bad

Do not judge.. just let them pass

The only tric is to be aware and non interfering

 

By and by you will start seeing an interval between your thoughts...

Once the gap is found, all one needs to do is dwell more in it.

 

This method is the airplane method to still your mind....

 

Love

 

Bala...

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Senthil,

 

I know it is not addressed to me,

But I think i can take the liberty of answering it...

 

Hope babaji wont mind!!

 

In tamil you say " Mounam enbadu gnana varambu "

Silence is the peak of gnana

 

Gnana yoga mens the yoga of understanding... Not the yoga of knowledge as

people think it to be.

The basis of Gnana yoga is to read and then try to actualize the teachin in

life...

 

Take the example of ramana maharishi...

His Method was asking " WHO am I "

Now... If you just ask the question within yourself verbally a

million times, there will be no gnana... you will only have a headache

 

But if you try to live it and ask with the whole of your being

You will not get a answer, but will dissolve in the question

 

That is Gnana Yoga....

 

Love

 

Bala...

 

 

On 8/29/07, Senthil <senthil_sym wrote:

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