Guest guest Report post Posted September 24, 2008 om gan ganpataye namha om namaha shivaye om em sarasvataye namha jai gurudevaye namha dear guru bhaiyon namaska i m practising tantra meditation.mother kundalini (sarasvati maa) has been aweken. i m yet practising. my ida is goning on during the whole day since one month from sunset to sunrise and pingla(surya svara)is going on during whole knight.i remain cool throught the day and my passionce increased. something like that of depperation is too feels. some times i feel (very rare)gastric trouble .kindly put the light on this matter .what is the right sequence of nadis .is some changes takes place in nadis of person whoose sprituality has been aweken? please disscuss and put your valuable comments in this regard. apka hi bhai madan pal om sam suryaye namha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 24, 2008 The breadth referred to as swara should alternate between ida and pingala ie left and right nostril approx every hour.Before change over both nostrils flow equally when sushmna is active.The commencement at the begining of the day left or right varies with lunar variations ie dark fortnight and bright fortnight.The 5 tatwas flow can be identified by blowing the breadth on a mirror and idetify from the pattern.I am unable to present patterns here.Keep a log of the breadth and observe.Flowing of one nostril is not healthy.It can be changed by lying on the opp. sideIf u lie on left right will be active and vice versa.More of this you can learn from swara yoga .there are many books.It is very useful knowledge.For example when stepping out of the bed in the morning step with that leg whose swara is active. Jai gurudev , " palm00007 " <palm00007 wrote: > > om gan ganpataye namha > om namaha shivaye > om em sarasvataye namha > jai gurudevaye namha > dear guru bhaiyon namaska > i m practising tantra meditation.mother kundalini (sarasvati maa) has > been aweken. i m yet practising. my ida is goning on during the whole > day since one month from sunset to sunrise and pingla(surya svara)is > going on during whole knight.i remain cool throught the day and my > passionce increased. something like that of depperation is too feels. > some times i feel (very rare)gastric trouble .kindly put the light on > this matter .what is the right sequence of nadis .is some changes > takes place in nadis of person whoose sprituality has been aweken? > please disscuss and put your valuable comments in this regard. > apka hi bhai > madan pal > om sam suryaye namha > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 25, 2008 You sit in padmasan otherwise your gas trouble may be increase special in night when you laydown. normally any person go for fresh one time in morning. our body mechanism (Pachantantra) digest our food and make mall. duration this slowoly shifted below and collect lower side. after collection mal convert dry mal give small. but in during sadhana our body's internal temparature high comparission normal days. so our mall dry faster and leave gas. a common person for leave gas stage in morning but any sadhak who take 24 minute and above assan labh. they reach this possition 9 to 10 PM. Precaution for this situatuion 1. Low diet - sadhak take low diet. morning evening. 2. take cold thing like icecreame and cold milk not hot. 3. pranayam - pranayam change sadhak mechanism then sadhak not face gas trouble gas passed hip. On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 palm00007 wrote : >om gan ganpataye namha >om namaha shivaye >om em sarasvataye namha >jai gurudevaye namha >dear guru bhaiyon namaska >i m practising tantra meditation.mother kundalini (sarasvati maa) has >been aweken. i m yet practising. my ida is goning on during the whole >day since one month from sunset to sunrise and pingla(surya svara)is >going on during whole knight.i remain cool throught the day and my >passionce increased. something like that of depperation is too feels. >some times i feel (very rare)gastric trouble .kindly put the light on >this matter .what is the right sequence of nadis .is some changes >takes place in nadis of person whoose sprituality has been aweken? >please disscuss and put your valuable comments in this regard. >apka hi bhai >madan pal >om sam suryaye namha > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 26, 2008 , " nes50 " <nes50 wrote: >om namaha shivaye dear gurubhaiyon ,swara yoga is a subject at which a practical knowledge is very less . a bhai has lighted on subject as written below .he is right that swaras are changed after at one or one and half hour .right, it is the condition of normal as well as ordinary person.but person that has undergone through some intense yogins process thats swara shall be transformed.i would like to state hereby about the great yogi of rishikesh of divine society of yoga ,shree swami shivananda. they are running school of rajyoga in fourteen counteries.they wrote in his book first paragraph----- swar sadhana , practise of breath, is a revealer of satya, brahaman and bestower of supreme knowledge and bliss. perform calms act during the floww of ida and harsh acts during the flow of pingla. do acts resulting in the attainment of phychic powers, yoga, meditations etc. at sushumna. if the breath rises by ida at sunrise and flows throughtout the day, and pingla rises at sunset and flows throught the night , it confers considerable results. let the breath flow through ida the whole day and through pingla the whole night.he who practise thus is verily a great yogi. last paragraph--- i want yoy to practise every day the swara sadhana systemetically and regularly,that is, to allow the breath as above said.this will doutless, bestow on you wonderful benifits. wrong swara is the cause of a host of ailments.observancies of right swara as described as above leads to health,and long life.verily-2, i say this unto u , my dear childern, practise this . practise this from today.shake off yr habitual sloth,indolence and inertia.leave off yr idle talk. do , something practical.before u begins the practise, pray to lord shiva, who is the giver of this wonderful science by uttering om namo shivaye and shree ganesha, the remover of all obstacle. pl disscuss if any. apka bhai madan pal om em sarasvatye namah > The breadth referred to as swara should alternate between ida and > pingala ie left and right nostril approx every hour.Before change over > both nostrils flow equally when sushmna is active.The commencement at > the begining of the day left or right varies with lunar variations ie > dark fortnight and bright fortnight.The 5 tatwas flow can be > identified by blowing the breadth on a mirror and idetify from the > pattern.I am unable to present patterns here.Keep a log of the breadth > and observe.Flowing of one nostril is not healthy.It can be changed by > lying on the opp. sideIf u lie on left right will be active and vice > versa.More of this you can learn from swara yoga .there are many > books.It is very useful knowledge.For example when stepping out of the > bed in the morning step with that leg whose swara is active. > Jai gurudev > , " palm00007 " <palm00007@> wrote: > > > > om gan ganpataye namha > > om namaha shivaye > > om em sarasvataye namha > > jai gurudevaye namha > > dear guru bhaiyon namaska > > i m practising tantra meditation.mother kundalini (sarasvati maa) has > > been aweken. i m yet practising. my ida is goning on during the whole > > day since one month from sunset to sunrise and pingla(surya svara)is > > going on during whole knight.i remain cool throught the day and my > > passionce increased. something like that of depperation is too feels. > > some times i feel (very rare)gastric trouble .kindly put the light on > > this matter .what is the right sequence of nadis .is some changes > > takes place in nadis of person whoose sprituality has been aweken? > > please disscuss and put your valuable comments in this regard. > > apka hi bhai > > madan pal > > om sam suryaye namha > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 26, 2008 , " Navin Nigotiya " <nknigotiya wrote: >om namah shivaye dear navin ji namaskaram i m talking about my swara that are going on according to shree swami shrinanda.is this situation right for health?i rarely face the trouble of gastric in stomach and not in colon.i tried to understand that has been wrote . madan pal > > You sit in padmasan otherwise your gas trouble may be increase special in night when you laydown. normally any person go for fresh one time in morning. our body mechanism (Pachantantra) digest our food and make mall. duration this slowoly shifted below and collect lower side. after collection mal convert dry mal give small. but in during sadhana our body's internal temparature high comparission normal days. so our mall dry faster and leave gas. a common person for leave gas stage in morning but any sadhak who take 24 minute and above assan labh. they reach this possition 9 to 10 PM. > Precaution for this situatuion > 1. Low diet - sadhak take low diet. morning evening. > 2. take cold thing like icecreame and cold milk not hot. > 3. pranayam - pranayam change sadhak mechanism then sadhak not face gas trouble gas passed hip. > > > > On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 palm00007 wrote : > >om gan ganpataye namha > >om namaha shivaye > >om em sarasvataye namha > >jai gurudevaye namha > >dear guru bhaiyon namaska > >i m practising tantra meditation.mother kundalini (sarasvati maa) has > >been aweken. i m yet practising. my ida is goning on during the whole > >day since one month from sunset to sunrise and pingla(surya svara) is > >going on during whole knight.i remain cool throught the day and my > >passionce increased. something like that of depperation is too feels. > >some times i feel (very rare)gastric trouble .kindly put the light on > >this matter .what is the right sequence of nadis .is some changes > >takes place in nadis of person whoose sprituality has been aweken? > >please disscuss and put your valuable comments in this regard. > >apka hi bhai > >madan pal > >om sam suryaye namha > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 26, 2008 dear one.. thank u for.. thanks & regards krishnakumar kerala u r prompt replay...i wish u a good meditated day aum namh shivaya jai guru dev --- On Fri, 9/26/08, palm00007 <palm00007 wrote: > palm00007 <palm00007 > Re: nadis > > Friday, September 26, 2008, 6:41 AM > , " nes50 " > <nes50 wrote: > >om namaha shivaye > dear gurubhaiyon ,swara yoga is a subject at which a > practical > knowledge is very less . a bhai has lighted on subject as > written > below .he is right that swaras are changed after at one or > one and > half hour .right, it is the condition of normal as well as > ordinary > person.but person that has undergone through some intense > yogins > process thats swara shall be transformed.i would like to > state hereby > about the great yogi of rishikesh of divine society of yoga > ,shree > swami shivananda. they are running school of rajyoga in > fourteen > counteries.they wrote in his book > first paragraph----- > swar sadhana , practise of breath, is a revealer of satya, > brahaman > and bestower of supreme knowledge and bliss. perform calms > act > during the floww of ida and harsh acts during the flow of > pingla. > do acts resulting in the attainment of phychic powers, > yoga, > meditations etc. at sushumna. if the breath rises by ida > at sunrise > and flows throughtout the day, and pingla rises at sunset > and flows > throught the night , it confers considerable results. let > the breath > flow through ida the whole day and through pingla the whole > night.he > who practise thus is verily a great yogi. > last paragraph--- > i want yoy to practise every day the swara sadhana > systemetically > and regularly,that is, to allow the breath as above > said.this will > doutless, bestow on you wonderful benifits. wrong swara is > the > cause of a host of ailments.observancies of right swara as > > described as above leads to health,and long life.verily-2, > i say > this unto u , my dear childern, practise this . practise > this from > today.shake off yr habitual sloth,indolence and > inertia.leave off yr > idle talk. do , something practical.before u begins the > practise, > pray to lord shiva, who is the giver of this wonderful > science by > uttering om namo shivaye and shree ganesha, the remover of > all > obstacle. > pl disscuss if any. > apka bhai > madan pal > om em sarasvatye namah > > > The breadth referred to as swara should alternate > between ida and > > pingala ie left and right nostril approx every > hour.Before change > over > > both nostrils flow equally when sushmna is active.The > commencement > at > > the begining of the day left or right varies with > lunar variations > ie > > dark fortnight and bright fortnight.The 5 tatwas flow > can be > > identified by blowing the breadth on a mirror and > idetify from the > > pattern.I am unable to present patterns here.Keep a > log of the > breadth > > and observe.Flowing of one nostril is not healthy.It > can be > changed by > > lying on the opp. sideIf u lie on left right will be > active and > vice > > versa.More of this you can learn from swara yoga > .there are many > > books.It is very useful knowledge.For example when > stepping out of > the > > bed in the morning step with that leg whose swara is > active. > > Jai gurudev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " palm00007 " > <palm00007@> wrote: > > > > > > om gan ganpataye namha > > > om namaha shivaye > > > om em sarasvataye namha > > > jai gurudevaye namha > > > dear guru bhaiyon namaska > > > i m practising tantra meditation.mother kundalini > (sarasvati > maa) has > > > been aweken. i m yet practising. my ida is goning > on during the > whole > > > day since one month from sunset to sunrise and > pingla(surya > svara)is > > > going on during whole knight.i remain cool > throught the day and > my > > > passionce increased. something like that of > depperation is too > feels. > > > some times i feel (very rare)gastric trouble > .kindly put the > light on > > > this matter .what is the right sequence of nadis > .is some > changes > > > takes place in nadis of person whoose sprituality > has been > aweken? > > > please disscuss and put your valuable comments in > this regard. > > > apka hi bhai > > > madan pal > > > om sam suryaye namha > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 27, 2008 Jai Gurudev No doubt ensuring solar flow in the night and lunar in the day as pointed out by my gurubhai makes one a perfected yogi.The most important text is shiva swarodaya which deals at length on this.It says shshankam varayedrathrow diva varyo diwakaraha itabyasratho nithyam sa yogi natra samshayaha. that means one who reularly avoids flow of ida or lunar nadi at night and pingala in the day becomes a perfect yogi. But the subject is much beyond that.You need pingala for certain activities like digestion For mental work ida is required.The control as mentioned is for those who are totally devoted to yoga without having to perform mundane activities like a common man.With present style of living food habits it will be dangerous to adopt such practices based on text.Swara sadhan is a tantric science and when combined with mantra shastra can yield good results.It is advised that we do activities with swara that is predominant than interfering with it like eating when pingala is flowing.Continuous flow of ida during the day can cause indigestion and related disease.It is also known as sara by siddhas of south.There is one more text name of which I am unable to recollect.These two are the authentic texts. -- In , " palm00007 " <palm00007 wrote: > > , " nes50 " <nes50@> wrote: > >om namaha shivaye > dear gurubhaiyon ,swara yoga is a subject at which a practical > knowledge is very less . a bhai has lighted on subject as written > below .he is right that swaras are changed after at one or one and > half hour .right, it is the condition of normal as well as ordinary > person.but person that has undergone through some intense yogins > process thats swara shall be transformed.i would like to state hereby > about the great yogi of rishikesh of divine society of yoga ,shree > swami shivananda. they are running school of rajyoga in fourteen > counteries.they wrote in his book > first paragraph----- > swar sadhana , practise of breath, is a revealer of satya, brahaman > and bestower of supreme knowledge and bliss. perform calms act > during the floww of ida and harsh acts during the flow of pingla. > do acts resulting in the attainment of phychic powers, yoga, > meditations etc. at sushumna. if the breath rises by ida at sunrise > and flows throughtout the day, and pingla rises at sunset and flows > throught the night , it confers considerable results. let the breath > flow through ida the whole day and through pingla the whole night.he > who practise thus is verily a great yogi. > last paragraph--- > i want yoy to practise every day the swara sadhana systemetically > and regularly,that is, to allow the breath as above said.this will > doutless, bestow on you wonderful benifits. wrong swara is the > cause of a host of ailments.observancies of right swara as > described as above leads to health,and long life.verily-2, i say > this unto u , my dear childern, practise this . practise this from > today.shake off yr habitual sloth,indolence and inertia.leave off yr > idle talk. do , something practical.before u begins the practise, > pray to lord shiva, who is the giver of this wonderful science by > uttering om namo shivaye and shree ganesha, the remover of all > obstacle. > pl disscuss if any. > apka bhai > madan pal > om em sarasvatye namah > > > The breadth referred to as swara should alternate between ida and > > pingala ie left and right nostril approx every hour.Before change > over > > both nostrils flow equally when sushmna is active.The commencement > at > > the begining of the day left or right varies with lunar variations > ie > > dark fortnight and bright fortnight.The 5 tatwas flow can be > > identified by blowing the breadth on a mirror and idetify from the > > pattern.I am unable to present patterns here.Keep a log of the > breadth > > and observe.Flowing of one nostril is not healthy.It can be > changed by > > lying on the opp. sideIf u lie on left right will be active and > vice > > versa.More of this you can learn from swara yoga .there are many > > books.It is very useful knowledge.For example when stepping out of > the > > bed in the morning step with that leg whose swara is active. > > Jai gurudev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " palm00007 " <palm00007@> wrote: > > > > > > om gan ganpataye namha > > > om namaha shivaye > > > om em sarasvataye namha > > > jai gurudevaye namha > > > dear guru bhaiyon namaska > > > i m practising tantra meditation.mother kundalini (sarasvati > maa) has > > > been aweken. i m yet practising. my ida is goning on during the > whole > > > day since one month from sunset to sunrise and pingla(surya > svara)is > > > going on during whole knight.i remain cool throught the day and > my > > > passionce increased. something like that of depperation is too > feels. > > > some times i feel (very rare)gastric trouble .kindly put the > light on > > > this matter .what is the right sequence of nadis .is some > changes > > > takes place in nadis of person whoose sprituality has been > aweken? > > > please disscuss and put your valuable comments in this regard. > > > apka hi bhai > > > madan pal > > > om sam suryaye namha > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 1, 2008 Nadi (Ila Pingla) Kundalini (Khat Chakra) Jagaran Spandahan Please be careful with the terms. Some people assume that their Kundaliani is awaken thru practice. Param Pujya Gurudev has clearly stated in the Kundalaini Naad Braham (Published by Guru Dham and available at Jodhpur/DElhi and Shivirs) your Mooladhar Chakra can be awaken by doing Mantra Sadhana/Yoga Sadhana and has prescribed Bhasrika Pranayam (not the same as Swami Ramdev ). Please refer Samadhi Ke Saat Dwar audio by Param Pujya Guru Dev for how to perform Bhasrika Pranayam. Jaya Guru Dev Bishnu NeopanaeNepal BungyThe Last Resort Pvt. Ltd.P. Box 5659Keashar MahalThamelKathmandu977 1 4439501977 1 2014004 From: avkrishnavblcDate: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 04:55:57 -0700Re: Re: nadis dear one..thank u for..thanks & regardskrishnakumarkerala u r prompt replay...i wish u a good meditated dayaum namh shivayajai guru dev--- On Fri, 9/26/08, palm00007 <palm00007 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> palm00007 <palm00007 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> Re: nadis> > Friday, September 26, 2008, 6:41 AM> , "nes50"> <nes50 wrote:> >om namaha shivaye> dear gurubhaiyon ,swara yoga is a subject at which a> practical > knowledge is very less . a bhai has lighted on subject as> written > below .he is right that swaras are changed after at one or> one and > half hour .right, it is the condition of normal as well as> ordinary> person.but person that has undergone through some intense> yogins > process thats swara shall be transformed.i would like to> state hereby> about the great yogi of rishikesh of divine society of yoga> ,shree > swami shivananda. they are running school of rajyoga in> fourteen > counteries.they wrote in his book> first paragraph-----> swar sadhana , practise of breath, is a revealer of satya,> brahaman> and bestower of supreme knowledge and bliss. perform calms> act > during the floww of ida and harsh acts during the flow of> pingla.> do acts resulting in the attainment of phychic powers,> yoga, > meditations etc. at sushumna. if the breath rises by ida > at sunrise> and flows throughtout the day, and pingla rises at sunset> and flows > throught the night , it confers considerable results. let> the breath > flow through ida the whole day and through pingla the whole> night.he > who practise thus is verily a great yogi.> last paragraph---> i want yoy to practise every day the swara sadhana> systemetically > and regularly,that is, to allow the breath as above> said.this will > doutless, bestow on you wonderful benifits. wrong swara is> the > cause of a host of ailments.observancies of right swara as> > described as above leads to health,and long life.verily-2,> i say > this unto u , my dear childern, practise this . practise> this from > today.shake off yr habitual sloth,indolence and> inertia.leave off yr > idle talk. do , something practical.before u begins the> practise, > pray to lord shiva, who is the giver of this wonderful> science by > uttering om namo shivaye and shree ganesha, the remover of> all > obstacle.> pl disscuss if any.> apka bhai> madan pal> om em sarasvatye namah> > > The breadth referred to as swara should alternate> between ida and> > pingala ie left and right nostril approx every> hour.Before change > over> > both nostrils flow equally when sushmna is active.The> commencement > at> > the begining of the day left or right varies with> lunar variations > ie> > dark fortnight and bright fortnight.The 5 tatwas flow> can be> > identified by blowing the breadth on a mirror and> idetify from the> > pattern.I am unable to present patterns here.Keep a> log of the > breadth> > and observe.Flowing of one nostril is not healthy.It> can be > changed by> > lying on the opp. sideIf u lie on left right will be> active and > vice> > versa.More of this you can learn from swara yoga> .there are many> > books.It is very useful knowledge.For example when> stepping out of > the> > bed in the morning step with that leg whose swara is> active.> > Jai gurudev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "palm00007"> <palm00007@> wrote:> > >> > > om gan ganpataye namha> > > om namaha shivaye> > > om em sarasvataye namha> > > jai gurudevaye namha> > > dear guru bhaiyon namaska> > > i m practising tantra meditation.mother kundalini> (sarasvati > maa) has > > > been aweken. i m yet practising. my ida is goning> on during the > whole > > > day since one month from sunset to sunrise and> pingla(surya > svara)is > > > going on during whole knight.i remain cool> throught the day and > my > > > passionce increased. something like that of> depperation is too > feels.> > > some times i feel (very rare)gastric trouble> .kindly put the > light on > > > this matter .what is the right sequence of nadis> .is some > changes > > > takes place in nadis of person whoose sprituality> has been > aweken?> > > please disscuss and put your valuable comments in> this regard.> > > apka hi bhai> > > madan pal> > > om sam suryaye namha> > >> > Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. 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Guest guest Report post Posted October 1, 2008 DEAR VISHNU NAMASKAR PLEASE SEND YOUR VIEW IN MY CASE ABOUT CHAKRA AND KUNDALINI THANKS MADAN PALBishnu Neopanae <bishnuneopanae wrote: Nadi (Ila Pingla)Kundalini (Khat Chakra) JagaranSpandahan Please be careful with the terms. Some people assume that their Kundaliani is awaken thru practice. Param Pujya Gurudev has clearly stated in the Kundalaini Naad Braham (Published by Guru Dham and available at Jodhpur/DElhi and Shivirs) your Mooladhar Chakra can be awaken by doing Mantra Sadhana/Yoga Sadhana and has prescribed Bhasrika Pranayam (not the same as Swami Ramdev ). Please refer Samadhi Ke Saat Dwar audio by Param Pujya Guru Dev for how to perform Bhasrika Pranayam. Jaya Guru DevBishnu NeopanaeNepal BungyThe Last Resort Pvt. Ltd.P. Box 5659Keashar MahalThamelKathmandu977 1 4439501977 1 2014004 From: avkrishnavblc Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 04:55:57 -0700Re: Re: nadis dear one..thank u for..thanks & regardskrishnakumarkerala u r prompt replay...i wish u a good meditated dayaum namh shivayajai guru dev--- On Fri, 9/26/08, palm00007 <palm00007 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> palm00007 <palm00007 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> Re: nadis> > Friday, September 26, 2008, 6:41 AM> , "nes50"> <nes50 wrote:> >om namaha shivaye> dear gurubhaiyon ,swara yoga is a subject at which a> practical > knowledge is very less . a bhai has lighted on subject as> written > below .he is right that swaras are changed after at one or> one and > half hour .right, it is the condition of normal as well as> ordinary> person.but person that has undergone through some intense> yogins > process thats swara shall be transformed.i would like to> state hereby> about the great yogi of rishikesh of divine society of yoga> ,shree > swami shivananda. they are running school of rajyoga in> fourteen > counteries.they wrote in his book> first paragraph-----> swar sadhana , practise of breath, is a revealer of satya,> brahaman> and bestower of supreme knowledge and bliss. perform calms> act > during the floww of ida and harsh acts during the flow of> pingla.> do acts resulting in the attainment of phychic powers,> yoga, > meditations etc. at sushumna. if the breath rises by ida > at sunrise> and flows throughtout the day, and pingla rises at sunset> and flows > throught the night , it confers considerable results. let> the breath > flow through ida the whole day and through pingla the whole> night.he > who practise thus is verily a great yogi.> last paragraph---> i want yoy to practise every day the swara sadhana> systemetically > and regularly,that is, to allow the breath as above> said.this will > doutless, bestow on you wonderful benifits. wrong swara is> the > cause of a host of ailments.observancies of right swara as> > described as above leads to health,and long life.verily-2,> i say > this unto u , my dear childern, practise this . practise> this from > today.shake off yr habitual sloth,indolence and> inertia.leave off yr > idle talk. do , something practical.before u begins the> practise, > pray to lord shiva, who is the giver of this wonderful> science by > uttering om namo shivaye and shree ganesha, the remover of> all > obstacle.> pl disscuss if any.> apka bhai> madan pal> om em sarasvatye namah> > > The breadth referred to as swara should alternate> between ida and> > pingala ie left and right nostril approx every> hour.Before change > over> > both nostrils flow equally when sushmna is active.The> commencement > at> > the begining of the day left or right varies with> lunar variations > ie> > dark fortnight and bright fortnight.The 5 tatwas flow> can be> > identified by blowing the breadth on a mirror and> idetify from the> > pattern.I am unable to present patterns here.Keep a> log of the > breadth> > and observe.Flowing of one nostril is not healthy.It> can be > changed by> > lying on the opp. sideIf u lie on left right will be> active and > vice> > versa.More of this you can learn from swara yoga> .there are many> > books.It is very useful knowledge.For example when> stepping out of > the> > bed in the morning step with that leg whose swara is> active.> > Jai gurudev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "palm00007"> <palm00007@> wrote:> > >> > > om gan ganpataye namha> > > om namaha shivaye> > > om em sarasvataye namha> > > jai gurudevaye namha> > > dear guru bhaiyon namaska> > > i m practising tantra meditation.mother kundalini> (sarasvati > maa) has > > > been aweken. i m yet practising. my ida is goning> on during the > whole > > > day since one month from sunset to sunrise and> pingla(surya > svara)is > > > going on during whole knight.i remain cool> throught the day and > my > > > passionce increased. something like that of> depperation is too > feels.> > > some times i feel (very rare)gastric trouble> .kindly put the > light on > > > this matter .what is the right sequence of nadis> .is some > changes > > > takes place in nadis of person whoose sprituality> has been > aweken?> > > please disscuss and put your valuable comments in> this regard.> > > apka hi bhai> > > madan pal> > > om sam suryaye namha> > >> > Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. 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Guest guest Report post Posted October 1, 2008 JAI GURUDEVI HAVE READ THE VIEWS OF ALL OF U NOW I WANT TO SHARE WITH ALL OF U MY EXERIENCE AND VIEWSI DONT KNOW, THERE IS SOME PLACE FROM WHERE U CAN FEEL THAT IDA OR PINGLA IS GONING AND AS FAR AS SUSHMANNA NADI IS CONCERNED I HAVE NOT FEEL THERE IS SOME PLACE FOR THE SAME.BCAUSE FOR IDA(SUN) AND PINGLA(MOON) ONE CAN SAY THAT IDA(SUN) IS RIGHT WHEN OUR RIGHT SAANS IS GOING AND PINGLA(MOON) IS LEFT WHEN OUR LEFT SAANS IS GOINGWITH THE HELP OF PARANYAAM SADHNA WE AWAKE THE SUSHMANNA NADI .THE PLACE OF SUSHMANNA NADI IS IN CENTER OF OUR FOREHEAD WHICH IS AWAKENED BY GURU WITH 'SHAKTILPAAT" AND THEN GURU CLEARS THE PATH OF SUSHMANNA NADI IN ORDER TO REAH AT ITS ULTIMATE DESTTINY .FIRST OF ALL U HAVE TO DO MAHAVIDHA CHHINMASTKA SADHNA AS WHEN U SEE THE CHITRA OF CHHINMASTKA SADHNA U WILL FIND ALL THE THREE NADIS U ARE DISCUSSING.REPLY THE SAME , IF STILL ANY QUERRY PLS REVERT, DONT GET CONFUSSEDTHAKUR DUTT NIKHIL--- On Tue, 30/9/08, Bishnu Neopanae <bishnuneopanae wrote:Bishnu Neopanae <bishnuneopanaeRE: Re: nadis Date: Tuesday, 30 September, 2008, 8:56 PM Nadi (Ila Pingla) Kundalini (Khat Chakra) Jagaran Spandahan Please be careful with the terms. Some people assume that their Kundaliani is awaken thru practice. Param Pujya Gurudev has clearly stated in the Kundalaini Naad Braham (Published by Guru Dham and available at Jodhpur/DElhi and Shivirs) your Mooladhar Chakra can be awaken by doing Mantra Sadhana/Yoga Sadhana and has prescribed Bhasrika Pranayam (not the same as Swami Ramdev ). Please refer Samadhi Ke Saat Dwar audio by Param Pujya Guru Dev for how to perform Bhasrika Pranayam. Jaya Guru Dev Bishnu NeopanaeNepal BungyThe Last Resort Pvt. Ltd.P. Box 5659Keashar MahalThamelKathmandu977 1 4439501977 1 2014004 @ s.comavkrishnavblc@ Fri, 26 Sep 2008 04:55:57 -0700Re: Re: nadis dear one..thank u for..thanks & regardskrishnakumarkerala u r prompt replay...i wish u a good meditated dayaum namh shivayajai guru dev--- On Fri, 9/26/08, palm00007 <palm00007 (AT) (DOT) co..in> wrote:> palm00007 <palm00007 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> Re: nadis> @ s.com> Friday, September 26, 2008, 6:41 AM> @ s.com, "nes50"> <nes50 wrote:> >om namaha shivaye> dear gurubhaiyon ,swara yoga is a subject at which a> practical > knowledge is very less . a bhai has lighted on subject as> written > below .he is right that swaras are changed after at one or> one and > half hour .right, it is the condition of normal as well as> ordinary> person.but person that has undergone through some intense> yogins > process thats swara shall be transformed. i would like to> state hereby> about the great yogi of rishikesh of divine society of yoga> ,shree > swami shivananda. they are running school of rajyoga in> fourteen > counteries.they wrote in his book> first paragraph--- --> swar sadhana , practise of breath, is a revealer of satya,> brahaman> and bestower of supreme knowledge and bliss.. perform calms> act > during the floww of ida and harsh acts during the flow of> pingla.> do acts resulting in the attainment of phychic powers,> yoga, > meditations etc. at sushumna. if the breath rises by ida > at sunrise> and flows throughtout the day, and pingla rises at sunset> and flows > throught the night , it confers considerable results. let> the breath > flow through ida the whole day and through pingla the whole> night.he > who practise thus is verily a great yogi.> last paragraph---> i want yoy to practise every day the swara sadhana> systemetically > and regularly,that is, to allow the breath as above> said.this will > doutless, bestow on you wonderful benifits. wrong swara is> the > cause of a host of ailments.observanci es of right swara as> > described as above leads to health,and long life.verily- 2,> i say > this unto u , my dear childern, practise this . practise> this from > today.shake off yr habitual sloth,indolence and> inertia.leave off yr > idle talk. do , something practical.before u begins the> practise, > pray to lord shiva, who is the giver of this wonderful> science by > uttering om namo shivaye and shree ganesha, the remover of> all > obstacle.> pl disscuss if any.> apka bhai> madan pal> om em sarasvatye namah> > > The breadth referred to as swara should alternate> between ida and> > pingala ie left and right nostril approx every> hour.Before change > over> > both nostrils flow equally when sushmna is active.The> commencement > at> > the begining of the day left or right varies with> lunar variations > ie> > dark fortnight and bright fortnight.The 5 tatwas flow> can be> > identified by blowing the breadth on a mirror and> idetify from the> > pattern.I am unable to present patterns here.Keep a> log of the > breadth> > and observe.Flowing of one nostril is not healthy.It> can be > changed by> > lying on the opp. sideIf u lie on left right will be> active and > vice> > versa.More of this you can learn from swara yoga> .there are many> > books.It is very useful knowledge.For example when> stepping out of > the> > bed in the morning step with that leg whose swara is> active.> > Jai gurudev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @ s.com, "palm00007"> <palm00007@> wrote:> > >> > > om gan ganpataye namha> > > om namaha shivaye> > > om em sarasvataye namha> > > jai gurudevaye namha> > > dear guru bhaiyon namaska> > > i m practising tantra meditation.mother kundalini> (sarasvati > maa) has > > > been aweken.. i m yet practising. my ida is goning> on during the > whole > > > day since one month from sunset to sunrise and> pingla(surya > svara)is > > > going on during whole knight.i remain cool> throught the day and > my > > > passionce increased. something like that of> depperation is too > feels.> > > some times i feel (very rare)gastric trouble> .kindly put the > light on > > > this matter .what is the right sequence of nadis> .is some > changes > > > takes place in nadis of person whoose sprituality> has been > aweken?> > > please disscuss and put your valuable comments in> this regard.> > > apka hi bhai> > > madan pal> > > om sam suryaye namha> > >> > Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. 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Guest guest Report post Posted October 1, 2008 - First of all IDA is moon and Pingala is sun.It is mentioned vice versa.You can easily make out when sushumna is active.When left nostril ia active ida is flowing and when right is active it is pingala.You can always feel breadth flows more in one nostril.the change occurs between ida and pingala every hour or an hour and twenty min to be almost precise.During this change over period you will find both nostrils equally active.This is when sushumna is active. Kundali jagran is no joke.one has to keep the body and mind pure and devote full attention.Any practice without guide can be fatal.However one of the deciples of HH swami Shivanandji of Rishikesh after a lot of practice approached the guru for help.All that was needed was for swamiji to plcae his hand on his crown and he could see all chakras shining as decribed in texts .A learned Guru can help a deciple provided the deciple is fit and ready and can withstand the process which only a sad guru can know.I feel like laughing when I see ads proclaiming they will raise the kundalini in one day course ,5min course etc.Hathyoga, spl. practices and Pranayama all combine can lead to kundalini jagran but takes time. Jai gurudev -- In , Kumar Dutt <dutt.kumar wrote: > > JAI GURUDEV > I HAVE READ THE VIEWS OF ALL OF U NOW I WANT TO SHARE WITH ALL OF U MY EXERIENCE AND VIEWS > I DONT KNOW, THERE IS SOME PLACE FROM WHERE U CAN FEEL THAT IDA OR PINGLA IS GONING AND AS FAR AS SUSHMANNA NADI IS CONCERNED I HAVE NOT FEEL THERE IS SOME PLACE FOR THE SAME.BCAUSE FOR IDA(SUN) AND PINGLA(MOON) ONE CAN SAY THAT IDA(SUN) IS RIGHT WHEN OUR RIGHT SAANS IS GOING AND PINGLA(MOON) IS LEFT WHEN OUR LEFT SAANS IS GOING > WITH THE HELP OF PARANYAAM SADHNA WE AWAKE THE SUSHMANNA NADI .THE PLACE OF SUSHMANNA NADI IS IN CENTER OF OUR FOREHEAD WHICH IS AWAKENED BY GURU WITH 'SHAKTILPAAT " AND THEN GURU CLEARS THE PATH OF SUSHMANNA NADI IN ORDER TO REAH AT ITS ULTIMATE DESTTINY . > FIRST OF ALL U HAVE TO DO MAHAVIDHA CHHINMASTKA SADHNA  AS WHEN U SEE THE CHITRA OF CHHINMASTKA SADHNA U WILL FIND ALL THE THREE NADIS U ARE DISCUSSING. > REPLY THE SAME , IF STILL ANY QUERRY PLS REVERT, DONT GET CONFUSSED > THAKUR DUTT NIKHIL > > --- On Tue, 30/9/08, Bishnu Neopanae <bishnuneopanae wrote: > Bishnu Neopanae <bishnuneopanae > RE: Re: nadis > > Tuesday, 30 September, 2008, 8:56 PM > > > > > > > Nadi (Ila Pingla) > > Kundalini (Khat Chakra) > >  > > Jagaran > > Spandahan > >  > > Please be careful with the terms. Some people assume that their Kundaliani is awaken thru practice. > >  > > Param Pujya Gurudev has clearly stated in the Kundalaini Naad Braham (Published by Guru Dham and available at Jodhpur/DElhi and Shivirs) your Mooladhar Chakra can be awaken by doing Mantra Sadhana/Yoga Sadhana and has prescribed Bhasrika Pranayam (not the same as Swami Ramdev ). Please refer Samadhi Ke Saat Dwar audio by Param Pujya Guru Dev for how to perform Bhasrika Pranayam. > >  > > Jaya Guru Dev > > > > Bishnu Neopanae > Nepal Bungy > The Last Resort Pvt. Ltd. > P. Box 5659 > Keashar Mahal > Thamel > Kathmandu > 977 1 4439501 > 977 1 2014004 > > @ s.com > avkrishnavblc@ > Fri, 26 Sep 2008 04:55:57 -0700 > Re: Re: nadis > dear one.. > thank u for.. > thanks & regards > krishnakumar > kerala u r prompt replay...i wish u a good meditated day > aum namh shivaya > jai guru dev > > --- On Fri, 9/26/08, palm00007 <palm00007 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > palm00007 <palm00007 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > Re: nadis > > @ s.com > > Friday, September 26, 2008, 6:41 AM > > @ s.com, " nes50 " > > <nes50@> wrote: > > >om namaha shivaye > > dear gurubhaiyon ,swara yoga is a subject at which a > > practical > > knowledge is very less . a bhai has lighted on subject as > > written > > below .he is right that swaras are changed after at one or > > one and > > half hour .right, it is the condition of normal as well as > > ordinary > > person.but person that has undergone through some intense > > yogins > > process thats swara shall be transformed. i would like to > > state hereby > > about the great yogi of rishikesh of divine society of yoga > > ,shree > > swami shivananda. they are running school of rajyoga in > > fourteen > > counteries.they wrote in his book > > first paragraph--- -- > > swar sadhana , practise of breath, is a revealer of satya, > > brahaman > > and bestower of supreme knowledge and bliss. perform calms > > act > > during the floww of ida and harsh acts during the flow of > > pingla. > > do acts resulting in the attainment of phychic powers, > > yoga, > > meditations etc. at sushumna. if the breath rises by ida > > at sunrise > > and flows throughtout the day, and pingla rises at sunset > > and flows > > throught the night , it confers considerable results. let > > the breath > > flow through ida the whole day and through pingla the whole > > night.he > > who practise thus is verily a great yogi. > > last paragraph--- > > i want yoy to practise every day the swara sadhana > > systemetically > > and regularly,that is, to allow the breath as above > > said.this will > > doutless, bestow on you wonderful benifits. wrong swara is > > the > > cause of a host of ailments.observanci es of right swara as > > > > described as above leads to health,and long life.verily- 2, > > i say > > this unto u , my dear childern, practise this . practise > > this from > > today.shake off yr habitual sloth,indolence and > > inertia.leave off yr > > idle talk. do , something practical.before u begins the > > practise, > > pray to lord shiva, who is the giver of this wonderful > > science by > > uttering om namo shivaye and shree ganesha, the remover of > > all > > obstacle. > > pl disscuss if any. > > apka bhai > > madan pal > > om em sarasvatye namah > > > > > The breadth referred to as swara should alternate > > between ida and > > > pingala ie left and right nostril approx every > > hour.Before change > > over > > > both nostrils flow equally when sushmna is active.The > > commencement > > at > > > the begining of the day left or right varies with > > lunar variations > > ie > > > dark fortnight and bright fortnight.The 5 tatwas flow > > can be > > > identified by blowing the breadth on a mirror and > > idetify from the > > > pattern.I am unable to present patterns here.Keep a > > log of the > > breadth > > > and observe.Flowing of one nostril is not healthy.It > > can be > > changed by > > > lying on the opp. sideIf u lie on left right will be > > active and > > vice > > > versa.More of this you can learn from swara yoga > > .there are many > > > books.It is very useful knowledge.For example when > > stepping out of > > the > > > bed in the morning step with that leg whose swara is > > active. > > > Jai gurudev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @ s.com, " palm00007 " > > <palm00007@> wrote: > > > > > > > > om gan ganpataye namha > > > > om namaha shivaye > > > > om em sarasvataye namha > > > > jai gurudevaye namha > > > > dear guru bhaiyon namaska > > > > i m practising tantra meditation.mother kundalini > > (sarasvati > > maa) has > > > > been aweken. i m yet practising. my ida is goning > > on during the > > whole > > > > day since one month from sunset to sunrise and > > pingla(surya > > svara)is > > > > going on during whole knight.i remain cool > > throught the day and > > my > > > > passionce increased. something like that of > > depperation is too > > feels. > > > > some times i feel (very rare)gastric trouble > > .kindly put the > > light on > > > > this matter .what is the right sequence of nadis > > .is some > > changes > > > > takes place in nadis of person whoose sprituality > > has been > > aweken? > > > > please disscuss and put your valuable comments in > > this regard. > > > > apka hi bhai > > > > madan pal > > > > om sam suryaye namha > > > > > > > > > Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. 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Guest guest Report post Posted October 2, 2008 Jaya Gurudev I am not an expert in Kundalini but I have been trying to practice only thru the path Param Pujya Sat Guru Dev has prescribed. I can share my experience if you send me stage wise exposure of yurs. Inittially YOga and Pranayam.......... Please write to me. Cheers bishnuBishnu NeopanaeNepal BungyThe Last Resort Pvt. Ltd.P. Box 5659Keashar MahalThamelKathmandu977 1 4439501977 1 2014004 From: palm00007Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 09:22:41 +0100RE: Re: nadis DEAR VISHNU NAMASKAR PLEASE SEND YOUR VIEW IN MY CASE ABOUT CHAKRA AND KUNDALINI THANKS MADAN PALBishnu Neopanae <bishnuneopanae (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Nadi (Ila Pingla)Kundalini (Khat Chakra) JagaranSpandahan Please be careful with the terms. Some people assume that their Kundaliani is awaken thru practice. Param Pujya Gurudev has clearly stated in the Kundalaini Naad Braham (Published by Guru Dham and available at Jodhpur/DElhi and Shivirs) your Mooladhar Chakra can be awaken by doing Mantra Sadhana/Yoga Sadhana and has prescribed Bhasrika Pranayam (not the same as Swami Ramdev ). Please refer Samadhi Ke Saat Dwar audio by Param Pujya Guru Dev for how to perform Bhasrika Pranayam. Jaya Guru DevBishnu NeopanaeNepal BungyThe Last Resort Pvt. Ltd.P. Box 5659Keashar MahalThamelKathmandu977 1 4439501977 1 2014004 From: avkrishnavblc Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 04:55:57 -0700Re: Re: nadis dear one..thank u for..thanks & regardskrishnakumarkerala u r prompt replay...i wish u a good meditated dayaum namh shivayajai guru dev--- On Fri, 9/26/08, palm00007 <palm00007 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> palm00007 <palm00007 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> Re: nadis> > Friday, September 26, 2008, 6:41 AM> , "nes50"> <nes50 wrote:> >om namaha shivaye> dear gurubhaiyon ,swara yoga is a subject at which a> practical > knowledge is very less . a bhai has lighted on subject as> written > below .he is right that swaras are changed after at one or> one and > half hour .right, it is the condition of normal as well as> ordinary> person.but person that has undergone through some intense> yogins > process thats swara shall be transformed.i would like to> state hereby> about the great yogi of rishikesh of divine society of yoga> ,shree > swami shivananda. they are running school of rajyoga in> fourteen > counteries.they wrote in his book> first paragraph-----> swar sadhana , practise of breath, is a revealer of satya,> brahaman> and bestower of supreme knowledge and bliss. perform calms> act > during the floww of ida and harsh acts during the flow of> pingla.> do acts resulting in the attainment of phychic powers,> yoga, > meditations etc. at sushumna. if the breath rises by ida > at sunrise> and flows throughtout the day, and pingla rises at sunset> and flows > throught the night , it confers considerable results. let> the breath > flow through ida the whole day and through pingla the whole> night.he > who practise thus is verily a great yogi.> last paragraph---> i want yoy to practise every day the swara sadhana> systemetically > and regularly,that is, to allow the breath as above> said.this will > doutless, bestow on you wonderful benifits. wrong swara is> the > cause of a host of ailments.observancies of right swara as> > described as above leads to health,and long life.verily-2,> i say > this unto u , my dear childern, practise this . practise> this from > today.shake off yr habitual sloth,indolence and> inertia.leave off yr > idle talk. do , something practical.before u begins the> practise, > pray to lord shiva, who is the giver of this wonderful> science by > uttering om namo shivaye and shree ganesha, the remover of> all > obstacle.> pl disscuss if any.> apka bhai> madan pal> om em sarasvatye namah> > > The breadth referred to as swara should alternate> between ida and> > pingala ie left and right nostril approx every> hour.Before change > over> > both nostrils flow equally when sushmna is active.The> commencement > at> > the begining of the day left or right varies with> lunar variations > ie> > dark fortnight and bright fortnight.The 5 tatwas flow> can be> > identified by blowing the breadth on a mirror and> idetify from the> > pattern.I am unable to present patterns here.Keep a> log of the > breadth> > and observe.Flowing of one nostril is not healthy.It> can be > changed by> > lying on the opp. sideIf u lie on left right will be> active and > vice> > versa.More of this you can learn from swara yoga> .there are many> > books.It is very useful knowledge.For example when> stepping out of > the> > bed in the morning step with that leg whose swara is> active.> > Jai gurudev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "palm00007"> <palm00007@> wrote:> > >> > > om gan ganpataye namha> > > om namaha shivaye> > > om em sarasvataye namha> > > jai gurudevaye namha> > > dear guru bhaiyon namaska> > > i m practising tantra meditation.mother kundalini> (sarasvati > maa) has > > > been aweken. i m yet practising. my ida is goning> on during the > whole > > > day since one month from sunset to sunrise and> pingla(surya > svara)is > > > going on during whole knight.i remain cool> throught the day and > my > > > passionce increased. something like that of> depperation is too > feels.> > > some times i feel (very rare)gastric trouble> .kindly put the > light on > > > this matter .what is the right sequence of nadis> .is some > changes > > > takes place in nadis of person whoose sprituality> has been > aweken?> > > please disscuss and put your valuable comments in> this regard.> > > apka hi bhai> > > madan pal> > > om sam suryaye namha> > >> > Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. 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Guest guest Report post Posted October 3, 2008 aom gan ganpataye namah dear bhai namaskaar any diciple who is fully devoted ie. proper exercise ,breathing in order,body and mind in tune and after all god s grace, can awake his kundalini. in my case i got god s grace. i shall disclose my experience of awakening of kundalini .what u wrote is 100% ok. but i have not followed to any second party. my guru is maa sarasvati and lord shiva himself . if i m learning from u are my guru. sabhi guru bhaiyon ko sadar namaskaar madan pal om namha shivaye nes50 <nes50 wrote: -First of all IDA is moon and Pingala is sun.It is mentioned viceversa.You can easily make out when sushumna is active.When leftnostril ia active ida is flowing and when right is active it ispingala.You can always feel breadth flows more in one nostril.thechange occurs between ida and pingala every hour or an hour and twentymin to be almost precise.During this change over period you will findboth nostrils equally active.This is when sushumna is active.Kundali jagran is no joke.one has to keep the body and mind pure anddevote full attention.Any practice without guide can be fatal.Howeverone of the deciples of HH swami Shivanandji of Rishikesh after a lotof practice approached the guru for help.All that was needed was forswamiji to plcae his hand on his crown and he could see all chakrasshining as decribed in texts .A learned Guru can help a decipleprovided the deciple is fit and ready and can withstand the processwhich only a sad guru can know.I feel like laughing when I see adsproclaiming they will raise the kundalini in one day course ,5mincourse etc.Hathyoga, spl. practices and Pranayama all combine can leadto kundalini jagran but takes time.Jai gurudev-- In , Kumar Dutt <dutt.kumar wrote:>> JAI GURUDEV> I HAVE READ THE VIEWS OF ALL OF U NOW I WANT TO SHARE WITH ALL OF UMY EXERIENCE AND VIEWS> I DONT KNOW, THERE IS SOME PLACE FROM WHERE U CAN FEEL THAT IDA ORPINGLA IS GONING AND AS FAR AS SUSHMANNA NADI IS CONCERNED I HAVE NOTFEEL THERE IS SOME PLACE FOR THE SAME.BCAUSE FOR IDA(SUN) ANDPINGLA(MOON) ONE CAN SAY THAT IDA(SUN) IS RIGHT WHEN OUR RIGHT SAANSIS GOING AND PINGLA(MOON) IS LEFT WHEN OUR LEFT SAANS IS GOING> WITH THE HELP OF PARANYAAM SADHNA WE AWAKE THE SUSHMANNA NADI .THEPLACE OF SUSHMANNA NADI IS IN CENTER OF OUR FOREHEAD WHICH IS AWAKENEDBY GURU WITH 'SHAKTILPAAT" AND THEN GURU CLEARS THE PATH OF SUSHMANNANADI IN ORDER TO REAH AT ITS ULTIMATE DESTTINY .> FIRST OF ALL U HAVE TO DO MAHAVIDHA CHHINMASTKA SADHNA  AS WHEN USEE THE CHITRA OF CHHINMASTKA SADHNA U WILL FIND ALL THE THREE NADIS U ARE DISCUSSING.> REPLY THE SAME , IF STILL ANY QUERRY PLS REVERT, DONT GET CONFUSSED> THAKUR DUTT NIKHIL> > --- On Tue, 30/9/08, Bishnu Neopanae <bishnuneopanae wrote:> Bishnu Neopanae <bishnuneopanae> RE: Re: nadis> > Tuesday, 30 September, 2008, 8:56 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nadi (Ila Pingla)> > Kundalini (Khat Chakra)> >  > > Jagaran> > Spandahan> >  > > Please be careful with the terms. Some people assume that theirKundaliani is awaken thru practice.> >  > > Param Pujya Gurudev has clearly stated in the Kundalaini Naad Braham(Published by Guru Dham and available at Jodhpur/DElhi and Shivirs)your Mooladhar Chakra can be awaken by doing Mantra Sadhana/YogaSadhana and has prescribed Bhasrika Pranayam (not the same as SwamiRamdev ). Please refer Samadhi Ke Saat Dwar audio by Param Pujya GuruDev for how to perform Bhasrika Pranayam.> >  > > Jaya Guru Dev> > > > Bishnu Neopanae> Nepal Bungy> The Last Resort Pvt. Ltd.> P. Box 5659> Keashar Mahal> Thamel> Kathmandu> 977 1 4439501> 977 1 2014004> > > > > > > > > @ s.com> avkrishnavblc@ > Fri, 26 Sep 2008 04:55:57 -0700> Re: Re: nadis> > > > > > > > dear one..> thank u for..> thanks & regards> krishnakumar> kerala u r prompt replay...i wish u a good meditated day> aum namh shivaya> jai guru dev> > --- On Fri, 9/26/08, palm00007 <palm00007 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > > palm00007 <palm00007 (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > Re: nadis> > @ s.com> > Friday, September 26, 2008, 6:41 AM> > @ s.com, "nes50"> > <nes50@> wrote:> > >om namaha shivaye> > dear gurubhaiyon ,swara yoga is a subject at which a> > practical > > knowledge is very less . a bhai has lighted on subject as> > written > > below .he is right that swaras are changed after at one or> > one and > > half hour .right, it is the condition of normal as well as> > ordinary> > person.but person that has undergone through some intense> > yogins > > process thats swara shall be transformed. i would like to> > state hereby> > about the great yogi of rishikesh of divine society of yoga> > ,shree > > swami shivananda. they are running school of rajyoga in> > fourteen > > counteries.they wrote in his book> > first paragraph--- --> > swar sadhana , practise of breath, is a revealer of satya,> > brahaman> > and bestower of supreme knowledge and bliss. perform calms> > act > > during the floww of ida and harsh acts during the flow of> > pingla.> > do acts resulting in the attainment of phychic powers,> > yoga, > > meditations etc. at sushumna. if the breath rises by ida > > at sunrise> > and flows throughtout the day, and pingla rises at sunset> > and flows > > throught the night , it confers considerable results. let> > the breath > > flow through ida the whole day and through pingla the whole> > night.he > > who practise thus is verily a great yogi.> > last paragraph---> > i want yoy to practise every day the swara sadhana> > systemetically > > and regularly,that is, to allow the breath as above> > said.this will > > doutless, bestow on you wonderful benifits. wrong swara is> > the > > cause of a host of ailments.observanci es of right swara as> > > > described as above leads to health,and long life.verily- 2,> > i say > > this unto u , my dear childern, practise this . practise> > this from > > today.shake off yr habitual sloth,indolence and> > inertia.leave off yr > > idle talk. do , something practical.before u begins the> > practise, > > pray to lord shiva, who is the giver of this wonderful> > science by > > uttering om namo shivaye and shree ganesha, the remover of> > all > > obstacle.> > pl disscuss if any.> > apka bhai> > madan pal> > om em sarasvatye namah> > > > > The breadth referred to as swara should alternate> > between ida and> > > pingala ie left and right nostril approx every> > hour.Before change > > over> > > both nostrils flow equally when sushmna is active.The> > commencement > > at> > > the begining of the day left or right varies with> > lunar variations > > ie> > > dark fortnight and bright fortnight.The 5 tatwas flow> > can be> > > identified by blowing the breadth on a mirror and> > idetify from the> > > pattern.I am unable to present patterns here.Keep a> > log of the > > breadth> > > and observe.Flowing of one nostril is not healthy.It> > can be > > changed by> > > lying on the opp. sideIf u lie on left right will be> > active and > > vice> > > versa.More of this you can learn from swara yoga> > .there are many> > > books.It is very useful knowledge.For example when> > stepping out of > > the> > > bed in the morning step with that leg whose swara is> > active.> > > Jai gurudev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @ s.com, "palm00007"> > <palm00007@> wrote:> > > >> > > > om gan ganpataye namha> > > > om namaha shivaye> > > > om em sarasvataye namha> > > > jai gurudevaye namha> > > > dear guru bhaiyon namaska> > > > i m practising tantra meditation.mother kundalini> > (sarasvati > > maa) has > > > > been aweken. i m yet practising. my ida is goning> > on during the > > whole > > > > day since one month from sunset to sunrise and> > pingla(surya > > svara)is > > > > going on during whole knight.i remain cool> > throught the day and > > my > > > > passionce increased. something like that of> > depperation is too > > feels.> > > > some times i feel (very rare)gastric trouble> > .kindly put the > > light on > > > > this matter .what is the right sequence of nadis> > .is some > > changes > > > > takes place in nadis of person whoose sprituality> > has been > > aweken?> > > > please disscuss and put your valuable comments in> > this regard.> > > > apka hi bhai> > > > madan pal> > > > om sam suryaye namha> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with WindowsLive Spaces. 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Guest guest Report post Posted October 3, 2008 om eim sarasvataye namah my dear bhai sadar namaskaar i wrote of my svaras that r going on as per text shiva swarodya. i attain this condition itself. i have not made any efforts to attaining it. i practising pranayam, meditation in morning and i leave bed before sunrise . i walk and play for one and half hour in evening and meditation for one hour in morning and evening each. i plays in aggeression football and bollyball daily. sometimes i run for 20 minutes. my ida(moon) runs in throught day and pingla right(surya) runs throught night. sometimes ida (very rare) runs in night. my work is not hard . this condition of my swaras i got effortlessly.i would like to clear here that my swara are got purified after practising meditation .i remain aware of my breath daily at maximum. there is littele bit difference observed in moon and surya swara.i cheked that surya swara is also gonig on but moon remain dominent apka bhai madan pal om namo narayan jay jagdambay nes50 <nes50 wrote: Jai GurudevNo doubt ensuring solar flow in the night and lunar in the day aspointed out by my gurubhai makes one a perfected yogi.The mostimportant text is shiva swarodaya which deals at length on this.It saysshshankam varayedrathrow diva varyo diwakarahaitabyasratho nithyam sa yogi natra samshayaha.that means one who reularly avoids flow of ida or lunar nadi at nightand pingala in the day becomes a perfect yogi.But the subject is much beyond that.You need pingala for certainactivities like digestion For mental work ida is required.The controlas mentioned is for those who are totally devoted to yoga withouthaving to perform mundane activities like a common man.With presentstyle of living food habits it will be dangerous to adopt suchpractices based on text.Swara sadhan is a tantric science and whencombined with mantra shastra can yield good results.It is advised thatwe do activities with swara that is predominant than interfering withit like eating when pingala is flowing.Continuous flow of ida duringthe day can cause indigestion and related disease.It is also known assara by siddhas of south.There is one more text name of which I amunable to recollect.These two are the authentic texts.-- In , "palm00007" <palm00007 wrote:>> , "nes50" <nes50@> wrote:> >om namaha shivaye> dear gurubhaiyon ,swara yoga is a subject at which a practical > knowledge is very less . a bhai has lighted on subject as written > below .he is right that swaras are changed after at one or one and > half hour .right, it is the condition of normal as well as ordinary> person.but person that has undergone through some intense yogins > process thats swara shall be transformed.i would like to state hereby> about the great yogi of rishikesh of divine society of yoga ,shree > swami shivananda. they are running school of rajyoga in fourteen > counteries.they wrote in his book> first paragraph-----> swar sadhana , practise of breath, is a revealer of satya, brahaman> and bestower of supreme knowledge and bliss. perform calms act > during the floww of ida and harsh acts during the flow of pingla.> do acts resulting in the attainment of phychic powers, yoga, > meditations etc. at sushumna. if the breath rises by ida at sunrise> and flows throughtout the day, and pingla rises at sunset and flows > throught the night , it confers considerable results. let the breath > flow through ida the whole day and through pingla the whole night.he > who practise thus is verily a great yogi.> last paragraph---> i want yoy to practise every day the swara sadhana systemetically > and regularly,that is, to allow the breath as above said.this will > doutless, bestow on you wonderful benifits. wrong swara is the > cause of a host of ailments.observancies of right swara as > described as above leads to health,and long life.verily-2, i say > this unto u , my dear childern, practise this . practise this from > today.shake off yr habitual sloth,indolence and inertia.leave off yr > idle talk. do , something practical.before u begins the practise, > pray to lord shiva, who is the giver of this wonderful science by > uttering om namo shivaye and shree ganesha, the remover of all > obstacle.> pl disscuss if any.> apka bhai> madan pal> om em sarasvatye namah> > > The breadth referred to as swara should alternate between ida and> > pingala ie left and right nostril approx every hour.Before change > over> > both nostrils flow equally when sushmna is active.The commencement > at> > the begining of the day left or right varies with lunar variations > ie> > dark fortnight and bright fortnight.The 5 tatwas flow can be> > identified by blowing the breadth on a mirror and idetify from the> > pattern.I am unable to present patterns here.Keep a log of the > breadth> > and observe.Flowing of one nostril is not healthy.It can be > changed by> > lying on the opp. sideIf u lie on left right will be active and > vice> > versa.More of this you can learn from swara yoga .there are many> > books.It is very useful knowledge.For example when stepping out of > the> > bed in the morning step with that leg whose swara is active.> > Jai gurudev> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "palm00007" <palm00007@> wrote:> > >> > > om gan ganpataye namha> > > om namaha shivaye> > > om em sarasvataye namha> > > jai gurudevaye namha> > > dear guru bhaiyon namaska> > > i m practising tantra meditation.mother kundalini (sarasvati > maa) has > > > been aweken. i m yet practising. my ida is goning on during the > whole > > > day since one month from sunset to sunrise and pingla(surya > svara)is > > > going on during whole knight.i remain cool throught the day and > my > > > passionce increased. something like that of depperation is too > feels.> > > some times i feel (very rare)gastric trouble .kindly put the > light on > > > this matter .what is the right sequence of nadis .is some > changes > > > takes place in nadis of person whoose sprituality has been > aweken?> 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