How long before they microchip humans by law?

[theist 1]

Dogs today and your baby tomorrow.

 

 

For Immediate Release

February 3, 2009

 

Dog Bleeds to Death After "Routine" Microchip Implant Procedure

Grieving owner calls for an end to mandatory microchipping in Los

Angeles

A fluffy bundle of life, love, and enthusiasm named Charlie Brown was

laid to rest last week, the victim of a microchip implant gone horribly

wrong. The long-haired, purebred Chihuahua bled to death in the arms of

his distraught owners, Lori and Ed Ginsberg of Agua Dulce, California,

just hours after undergoing the controversial chipping procedure.

 

"I wasn't in favor of getting Charlie chipped, but it was the law," said

Lori Ginsberg, citing a Los Angeles county ordinance that requires all

dog owners to chip their dogs once they reach four months of age. Dog

owners who refuse to comply face a $250 fine for the first offense and

up to six months in jail for continued non-compliance. "This technology

is supposedly so great until it's your animal that dies," she said. "I

can't believe Charlie is gone. I'm just beside myself."

 

Dr. Reid Loken, the board certified veterinarian who performed the

chipping, confirmed on Friday that Charlie died from blood loss

associated with the microchip. He cited "an extreme amount of bleeding"

from the "little hole in the skin where the [microchip implant] needle

went in" as the cause of death. He said he was both saddened and puzzled

by Charlie's death.

 

"I just don't know what happened to him. We put the chip in the back in

the shoulder blades, the standard place where we put them, and there

really aren't any major blood vessels in that area," he said. "I don't

think it went in too deep; it was a pretty routine chipping."

 

Dr. Loken suspected the needle may have nicked the muscle around the

scapula, causing blood to ooze from the muscle. However, his efforts to

stem the bleeding with pressure bandages were unsuccessful. The bleeding

could not be attributed to a congenital clotting problem, he said, since

Charlie had undergone a neutering and tooth extraction without incident

just weeks before.

 

Charlie's owners were devastated by the loss. "Charlie loved to play and

cuddle. He brought so much joy and life to our home," said Lori. "We

loved him and took such good care of him. He meant everything to us."

 

The Ginsbergs were quick to absolve Dr. Loken of responsibility for

Charlie's death. "He's a great vet and this was not his fault. The real

blame is with the people who forced us to implant our dog against our

better judgment," they said.

 

The Ginsbergs plan to petition the Los Angeles County Board of

Supervisors to repeal the mandatory chipping law, and have sought the

help of prominent consumer privacy advocate Dr. Katherine Albrecht.

Albrecht is a Harvard-trained researcher who has authored a definitive

academic paper citing literature that links microchips with cancer in

dogs as well as laboratory animals. She has also authored an exhaustive,

47-page FAQ on microchip implants.

 

Albrecht cites other adverse reactions stemming from microchips in the

past. In one case, a struggling kitten died instantly when a microchip

was accidentally injected into its brain stem. In another, a cat was

paralyzed when an implant entered its spinal column. The implants have

been widely reported to migrate within animals' bodies, and can cause

abscesses and infection. In at least two documented cases, dogs have

developed cancerous tumors surrounding or adjacent to microchip

implants.

 

"Tragedies like what happened to Charlie Brown are probably more common

than we like to think," said Albrecht. "But it takes courageous people

like the Ginsbergs to come forward and talk about it."

 

Albrecht and the Ginsbergs are calling for a repeal of all mandatory

animal chipping laws nationwide, and for the creation of a national

registry to document adverse reactions from the chipping procedure.

 

"It's horrible to live in a country where your choices are being take

away and you don't get to make decisions about your family and your life

anymore," said Lori Ginsberg. "Politicians should not take away my right

to do what I thought was best for my pet."

[AncientMariner 0]

Been reading stuff on conspiracy sights saying that is the ultimate plan. I guess if we live long enough we will find out.

[bija 0]

some days i feel like mel gibson in that movie...

 

makes me wonder if these neo's arranged a world economic crash to bring in the new thing...

 

told me father that yesterday and he said, 'nonsense, it was just greed'.

 

i replied, 'that is exactly my point...greed can arrange anything'.

 

old dick cheney...666...adds up!

[bija 0]

 

"It's horrible to live in a country where your choices are being take

away and you don't get to make decisions about your family and your life

anymore," said Lori Ginsberg. "Politicians should not take away my right

to do what I thought was best for my pet."

that sucks...twisted!

[AncientMariner 0]

My view after reading The Creature From Jekyll Island is that basically international bankers have helped create all these intelligence agencies and combined with the military industrial complex they have been running the government since WWII at least and really even before WWII and WW1. Almost all of the politicians are really just bought off puppets carrying out this agenda. Some may know the agenda and some may just be compartmentalized and think they are serving good.

 

 

The Creature from Jekyll Island spells out how they got control of the money and with control of that comes control of pretty much everything else.

[AncientMariner 0]

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It’s Not Going to Be OK

By Chris Hedges

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21889.htm

February 02, 2009 "TruthDig" -- The daily bleeding of thousands of jobs will soon turn our economic crisis into a political crisis. The street protests, strikes and riots that have rattled France, Turkey, Greece, Ukraine, Russia, Latvia, Lithuania, Bulgaria and Iceland will descend on us. It is only a matter of time. And not much time. When things start to go sour, when Barack Obama is exposed as a mortal waving a sword at a tidal wave, the United States could plunge into a long period of precarious social instability.

 

At no period in American history has our democracy been in such peril or has the possibility of totalitarianism been as real. Our way of life is over. Our profligate consumption is finished. Our children will never have the standard of living we had. And poverty and despair will sweep across the landscape like a plague. This is the bleak future. There is nothing President Obama can do to stop it. It has been decades in the making. It cannot be undone with a trillion or two trillion dollars in bailout money. Our empire is dying. Our economy has collapsed.

 

How will we cope with our decline? Will we cling to the absurd dreams of a superpower and a glorious tomorrow or will we responsibly face our stark new limitations? Will we heed those who are sober and rational, those who speak of a new simplicity and humility, or will we follow the demagogues and charlatans who rise up out of the slime in moments of crisis to offer fantastic visions? Will we radically transform our system to one that protects the ordinary citizen and fosters the common good, that defies the corporate state, or will we employ the brutality and technology of our internal security and surveillance apparatus to crush all dissent? We won't have to wait long to find out.

 

There are a few isolated individuals who saw it coming. The political philosophers Sheldon S. Wolin, John Ralston Saul and Andrew Bacevich, as well as writers such as Noam Chomsky, Chalmers Johnson, David Korten and Naomi Klein, along with activists such as Bill McKibben and Ralph Nader, rang the alarm bells. They were largely ignored or ridiculed. Our corporate media and corporate universities proved, when we needed them most, intellectually and morally useless.

 

Wolin, who taught political philosophy at the University of California in Berkeley and at Princeton, in his book "Democracy Incorporated" uses the phrase inverted totalitarianism to describe our system of power. Inverted totalitarianism, unlike classical totalitarianism, does not revolve around a demagogue or charismatic leader. It finds its expression in the anonymity of the corporate state. It purports to cherish democracy, patriotism and the Constitution while cynically manipulating internal levers to subvert and thwart democratic institutions. Political candidates are elected in popular votes by citizens, but they must raise staggering amounts of corporate funds to compete. They are beholden to armies of corporate lobbyists in Washington or state capitals who write the legislation. A corporate media controls nearly everything we read, watch or hear and imposes a bland uniformity of opinion or diverts us with trivia and celebrity gossip. In classical totalitarian regimes, such as Nazi fascism or Soviet communism, economics was subordinate to politics. "Under inverted totalitarianism the reverse is true," Wolin writes. "Economics dominates politics-and with that domination comes different forms of ruthlessness."

 

I reached Wolin, 86, by phone at his home about 25 miles north of San Francisco. He was a bombardier in the South Pacific during World War II and went to Harvard after the war to get his doctorate. Wolin has written classics such as "Politics and Vision" and "Tocqueville Between Two Worlds." His newest book is one of the most important and prescient critiques to date of the American political system. He is also the author of a series of remarkable essays on Augustine of Hippo, Richard Hooker, David Hume, Martin Luther, John Calvin, Max Weber, Friedrich Nietzsche, Karl Marx and John Dewey. His voice, however, has faded from public awareness because, as he told me, "it is harder and harder for people like me to get a public hearing." He said that publications, such as The New York Review of Books, which often published his work a couple of decades ago, lost interest in his critiques of American capitalism, his warnings about the subversion of democratic institutions and the emergence of the corporate state. He does not hold out much hope for Obama.

 

"The basic systems are going to stay in place; they are too powerful to be challenged," Wolin told me when I asked him about the new Obama administration. "This is shown by the financial bailout. It does not bother with the structure at all. I don't think Obama can take on the kind of military establishment we have developed. This is not to say that I do not admire him. He is probably the most intelligent president we have had in decades. I think he is well meaning, but he inherits a system of constraints that make it very difficult to take on these major power configurations. I do not think he has the appetite for it in any ideological sense. The corporate structure is not going to be challenged. There has not been a word from him that would suggest an attempt to rethink the American imperium."

 

Wolin argues that a failure to dismantle our vast and overextended imperial projects, coupled with the economic collapse, is likely to result in inverted totalitarianism. He said that without "radical and drastic remedies" the response to mounting discontent and social unrest will probably lead to greater state control and repression. There will be, he warned, a huge "expansion of government power."

 

"Our political culture has remained unhelpful in fostering a democratic consciousness," he said. "The political system and its operatives will not be constrained by popular discontent or uprisings."

 

Wolin writes that in inverted totalitarianism consumer goods and a comfortable standard of living, along with a vast entertainment industry that provides spectacles and diversions, keep the citizenry politically passive. I asked if the economic collapse and the steady decline in our standard of living might not, in fact, trigger classical totalitarianism. Could widespread frustration and poverty lead the working and middle classes to place their faith in demagogues, especially those from the Christian right?

 

"I think that's perfectly possible," he answered. "That was the experience of the 1930s. There wasn't just FDR. There was Huey Long and Father Coughlin. There were even more extreme movements including the Klan. The extent to which those forces can be fed by the downturn and bleakness is a very real danger. It could become classical totalitarianism."

 

He said the widespread political passivity is dangerous. It is often exploited by demagogues who pose as saviors and offer dreams of glory and salvation. He warned that "the apoliticalness, even anti-politicalness, will be very powerful elements in taking us towards a radically dictatorial direction. It testifies to how thin the commitment to democracy is in the present circumstances. Democracy is not ascendant. It is not dominant. It is beleaguered. The extent to which young people have been drawn away from public concerns and given this extraordinary range of diversions makes it very likely they could then rally to a demagogue."

 

Wolin lamented that the corporate state has successfully blocked any real debate about alternative forms of power. Corporations determine who gets heard and who does not, he said. And those who critique corporate power are given no place in the national dialogue.

 

"In the 1930s there were all kinds of alternative understandings, from socialism to more extensive governmental involvement," he said. "There was a range of different approaches. But what I am struck by now is the narrow range within which palliatives are being modeled. We are supposed to work with the financial system. So the people who helped create this system are put in charge of the solution. There has to be some major effort to think outside the box."

 

"The puzzle to me is the lack of social unrest," Wolin said when I asked why we have not yet seen rioting or protests. He said he worried that popular protests will be dismissed and ignored by the corporate media. This, he said, is what happened when tens of thousands protested the war in Iraq. This will permit the state to ruthlessly suppress local protests, as happened during the Democratic and Republic conventions. Anti-war protests in the 1960s gained momentum from their ability to spread across the country, he noted. This, he said, may not happen this time. "The ways they can isolate protests and prevent it from [becoming] a contagion are formidable," he said.

 

"My greatest fear is that the Obama administration will achieve relatively little in terms of structural change," he added. "They may at best keep the system going. But there is a growing pessimism. Every day we hear how much longer the recession will continue. They are already talking about beyond next year. The economic difficulties are more profound than we had guessed and because of globalization more difficult to deal with. I wish the political establishment, the parties and leadership, would become more aware of the depths of the problem. They can't keep throwing money at this. They have to begin structural changes that involve a very different approach from a market economy. I don't think this will happen."

 

"I keep asking why and how and when this country became so conservative," he went on. "This country once prided itself on its experimentation and flexibility. It has become rigid. It is probably the most conservative of all the advanced countries."

 

The American left, he said, has crumbled. It sold out to a bankrupt Democratic Party, abandoned the working class and has no ability to organize. Unions are a spent force. The universities are mills for corporate employees. The press churns out info-entertainment or fatuous pundits. The left, he said, no longer has the capacity to be a counterweight to the corporate state. He said that if an extreme right gains momentum there will probably be very little organized resistance.

 

"The left is amorphous," he said. "I despair over the left. Left parties may be small in number in Europe but they are a coherent organization that keeps going. Here, except for Nader's efforts, we don't have that. We have a few voices here, a magazine there, and that's about it. It goes nowhere."

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[theist 1]

Looking into my crystal ball I see microchips at birth as routine. Add simple GPS and you have perfect control.

 

Take a crowd of protestors for example. Everyone in the crowd could be identified, found and punished. There goes dissent.

 

Things are just getting stranger and stranger.

 

 

[bija 0]

suchandra posted from one of those weird nazi like conspiracy sites a while back, a video of colin powell making an odd vague comment about february 12th or thereabouts this year.

 

the comment seemed to allude that something is going to happen.

 

very strange...so I will keep watch to see if it is all just non-sense or real.

[AncientMariner 0]

 

suchandra posted from one of those weird nazi like conspiracy sites a while back, a video of colin powell making an odd vague comment about february 12th or thereabouts this year.

 

the comment seemed to allude that something is going to happen.

 

very strange...so I will keep watch to see if it is all just non-sense or real.

 

 

 

That is weird that you classify the conspiracy theory sites as Nazi as for me the propaganda coming from the corporate news media is truly surreal to watch and I can hardly even watch TV anymore without vomitting. The conspiracy sites I go to sometimes have articles that are over the top exagerated but they have far better information than I could get from Fox News or Cnn or any other of the corporate print media.

 

 

Both Biden and Powell hinted that there might be something big happen but that is neither here nor there for me personally. The real devil is in the details of history.

[bija 0]

i looked up the link connections that day...and the site that had the video was extreme anti-jewish. maybe it wasnt nazi, but gee it had the vibes behind the gloss.

[bija 0]

 

The conspiracy sites I go to sometimes have articles that are over the top exagerated but they have far better information than I could get from Fox News or Cnn or any other of the corporate print media.

if you want a broader newws network check this ought, if it not banned in US. you can get news even from middle east and russia here...to get a bigger picture of the game play of nations. you can even get india news. i enjoy this free program alot.

 

http://www.livestation.com/channels/3-al_jazeera_english