Guest guest Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 Sir, I do not know technically the rules of blowing the Conch, but I know that Bhishma also revered Lord Krishna (Shri VishnuSahasranaam sung by Bhishma Pitamnha)and everyone present there as a devotee knew who was stronger and who was going to win. Unfortunately, due to eating salt of Dhritrashtra the great warriors had to fight from Duryodhanas side, also Karna even after realising the knowledge of being Kuntis son, could not change sides, again to remain faithfuly to dignity empowered by Duryodhana on him. The warriors given by Krishna (As chosen by Duryodhana) also knew who was the looser, but they prefereed to die from the Armys hands where their Lord was stationed, so that they would get a death of glory and gain emancipation as a warriors death. The Pandavas were never weak, no body can be with Lord Krishna at His side, I am not being emotional, but stating true facts,they wanted compromise only because they did not want unnecessary bloodshed and neither wanted to hurt their own kinsmen, which was the reason and not because they were weak. All the Wise men who were present there in Kurukshetra knew the ultimate outcome of the Great War, but all were bound by their principles, attachment moral or emotional or ethical ones related to serving their Masters, or eating ones salt, or being Shishya of one, or Guru of one,or for upholding the righteousness, or for showing the riught way to the world, or whatever, but The Pandavas singularly too were very strong, and with Lord Krishna at their side, The Unbeatable Force by anyone in the whole Universe. Sorry somehow, can never think of The Pandavas or Krishna in any other vein. They are like family members for me. regards, Bhaskar. , "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote: > > The raising of war conch is generally done by the weaker side ( technically > weaker ), for the benefit to call for a fight is generally given by the > weaker of the two !! > > Hence, in this case it was Lord Krishna who has given the clarion > call.....It was Bhishma who has responded to the clarion war call........ > Further, if you see the story...it was Pandavas who have sent Lord Krishna > to Dashing or Daring Duryodhan for a compromise, with a strong undertone > for eventful war......, which Daring/Dashing Duryodhan refused to return the > land......hence, the call for fight is given first by Pandavas...... > > with regards, > sreeram srinivas > > _____ > > amit trehan [amittre] > Friday, February 23, 2007 8:26 PM > sreeram srinivas > Re: Divisional Charts Analysis > > > Sir, > i understand that... > Today I read ur article in group regarding the mahabharta adn astrology. > > i remember when in exile(13th year) arjuna came to fight kaurva army.... > Bhisma reminded Duryodhna that one year is complete..(thus bhsiama was well > versed in astrology) > > But when krishna raised his coonch in warthat was in response to bhsima > coonch.. and Krishna was not the first to do it. > some where i read(dont remember where)... in ramayana Bharata says kakayi > came in our life as Ketu mahadasha. > > any way... > Keep the good work going > regards > Amit > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 Sir, I do not know technically the rules of blowing the Conch, but I know that Bhishma also revered Lord Krishna (Shri VishnuSahasranaam sung by Bhishma Pitamnha)and everyone present there as a devotee knew who was stronger and who was going to win. Unfortunately, due to eating salt of Dhritrashtra the great warriors had to fight from Duryodhanas side, also Karna even after realising the knowledge of being Kuntis son, could not change sides, again to remain faithfuly to dignity empowered by Duryodhana on him. The warriors given by Krishna (As chosen by Duryodhana) also knew who was the looser, but they prefereed to die from the Armys hands where their Lord was stationed, so that they would get a death of glory and gain emancipation as a warriors death. The Pandavas were never weak, no body can be with Lord Krishna at His side, I am not being emotional, but stating true facts,they wanted compromise only because they did not want unnecessary bloodshed and neither wanted to hurt their own kinsmen, which was the reason and not because they were weak. All the Wise men who were present there in Kurukshetra knew the ultimate outcome of the Great War, but all were bound by their principles, attachment moral or emotional or ethical ones related to serving their Masters, or eating ones salt, or being Shishya of one, or Guru of one,or for upholding the righteousness, or for showing the riught way to the world, or whatever, but The Pandavas singularly too were very strong, and with Lord Krishna at their side, The Unbeatable Force by anyone in the whole Universe. Sorry somehow, can never think of The Pandavas or Krishna in any other vein. They are like family members for me. regards, Bhaskar. , "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote: > > The raising of war conch is generally done by the weaker side ( technically > weaker ), for the benefit to call for a fight is generally given by the > weaker of the two !! > > Hence, in this case it was Lord Krishna who has given the clarion > call.....It was Bhishma who has responded to the clarion war call........ > Further, if you see the story...it was Pandavas who have sent Lord Krishna > to Dashing or Daring Duryodhan for a compromise, with a strong undertone > for eventful war......, which Daring/Dashing Duryodhan refused to return the > land......hence, the call for fight is given first by Pandavas...... > > with regards, > sreeram srinivas > > _____ > > amit trehan [amittre] > Friday, February 23, 2007 8:26 PM > sreeram srinivas > Re: Divisional Charts Analysis > > > Sir, > i understand that... > Today I read ur article in group regarding the mahabharta adn astrology. > > i remember when in exile(13th year) arjuna came to fight kaurva army.... > Bhisma reminded Duryodhna that one year is complete..(thus bhsiama was well > versed in astrology) > > But when krishna raised his coonch in warthat was in response to bhsima > coonch.. and Krishna was not the first to do it. > some where i read(dont remember where)... in ramayana Bharata says kakayi > came in our life as Ketu mahadasha. > > any way... > Keep the good work going > regards > Amit > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2007 Report Share Posted February 24, 2007 Dear Sreeram Namste It was actually Krishna himself who wanted War. Krishna went to Kauravas for compromise with few things in mind. Most importantly, he wanted war to happen, next he wanted to expose Kauravas, and finally wanted to demorolise Bhishmadi kauravas. Krishna was successful in all three accounts. Pandavs were much stronger than Kauravas with or without Krishna. There are many instances where Pandavs defeated kauravs without the help of Krishna. Thanks a lot for your Time and Sapce. Prabodh Vekhande Jai Jai Shankar Har Har Shankar , "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote: > > The raising of war conch is generally done by the weaker side ( technically > weaker ), for the benefit to call for a fight is generally given by the > weaker of the two !! > > Hence, in this case it was Lord Krishna who has given the clarion > call.....It was Bhishma who has responded to the clarion war call........ > Further, if you see the story...it was Pandavas who have sent Lord Krishna > to Dashing or Daring Duryodhan for a compromise, with a strong undertone > for eventful war......, which Daring/Dashing Duryodhan refused to return the > land......hence, the call for fight is given first by Pandavas...... > > with regards, > sreeram srinivas > > _____ > > amit trehan [amittre] > Friday, February 23, 2007 8:26 PM > sreeram srinivas > Re: Divisional Charts Analysis > > > Sir, > i understand that... > Today I read ur article in group regarding the mahabharta adn astrology. > > i remember when in exile(13th year) arjuna came to fight kaurva army.... > Bhisma reminded Duryodhna that one year is complete..(thus bhsiama was well > versed in astrology) > > But when krishna raised his coonch in warthat was in response to bhsima > coonch.. and Krishna was not the first to do it. > some where i read(dont remember where)... in ramayana Bharata says kakayi > came in our life as Ketu mahadasha. > > any way... > Keep the good work going > regards > Amit > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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