Guest guest Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Dear Amit Ji God and Astrologers are different. But sometimes astrologers think that they are God and hence fortune-maker. Peace to everyone... Best Wishes Jagdish planck12 <planck12 > wrote: , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Bhaskarji, To put this post to rest. Let me assure u in the most honest means, I had played around with forigen exchange over the past few months and made a decent gain out of that. I just did not want to dwell into my whole life story on a public fourm. So that was part of the reason I enjoyed speculative things. I did not try it prior but having tried it once made a resonable gain, which I paid towards my student loans and helped reduce my debt. Again please do not say that now my chart shows debt since in Canada pretty much 80% of the student population takes loans to finance their eduction. So I do not know about continues gains nor do I know about Jupiter Dasa but my past two months were good (not great but good) based on the amount I invested I got a decent return in speculation. I dont know if I should abandon the fact to fit astrology or vice versa. Also I do not enjoy taking challanges on issues that are petty to satify my ego. I am happy the way I am yes in a finanical crunch but I hold the dream of improving my situation someday somehow being morally right. It is ridicoulus on your part to state that you will shave your head on such petty issues. I do not know about your chart, but your words reflect a very different personality. Astrologers are suppose to be calm and not take offence to petty issues. I have not said anything to Astrology at all, my only pretaning query was that there were too answers to my questions and I sought reason. You blew it up into such a high debate energy intesive argument. Saying that people like me seek free advice etc etc, please don't judge people merely based on charts. Know a person, share love understand their thoughts their circumstances and then give advice and tame questions. It would be wise to go through the previous post to see what was asked and where it blew up into. You took everythng as a challange, and that quetiiong your prediction would be an offence or a crime. But Sirji, I like to question every advice especially in this field where its highly subjective and different. Thanks P.S There have been many astrologers who have claimed people to be manglik and ruined marriages etc (Im not generalizing anything) but just stating how important it is to question certain concepts. If you don't feel like answering you shouldn't just dont be insulting and assuming. Amit > Dear Amitji, > > I do not like to be seen or known as anything but a truthful and > honest person and astrologer. > > When after recieving predictions from a person like Sanjay Rathji who > is supposed to > be a master in jaimini, if you come to ordinary person like myself, > then what does it mean ? > Does it not mean that you are questioning his esteemed opinions > and he is NOT CORRECTLY RIGHT in HIS PREDICTIONS ? > > anyway lets not talk on unnecessary things. > > I place a challenge before you,which would not cost you > any money. > > Let the best astrologers argue with me on your chart,that you can > continously make speculative gains in Guru MahaDasha, and if they are > proved right, I am willing to get my head shaved. > > Thats a challenge from this ordinary astrologer. > > You may pick up all the best astrologers against me , be it 1 or 10 > Does not matter to me. > I am ready to give good technical arguments from my side.,but > to them and not to anyone else who may not understand my arguments. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > > , "planck12" <planck12@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > Let me put it logically, I do see my own chart and I do understand > > what I am speaking. I had posted my query in one of the other forms > > as well run by Shri Sanjay Rath Ji and Guruji Rafalji who posted a > > response to my query saying based on jaimin principles I would end > up > > making big money in speculative stocks. > > > > I am not trying to pit anyone against anyone, but if you see the > > logic in my query and the various responses I have got I am sure > you > > will act and question just as I have. Most of them have stated that > > speculative stocks would be good. > > > > Feel free to check out the other fourm considering you feel I am > > boasting or lying. The intention of mine is not to simply waste > your > > time or mine in bringing up such petty issues. But I want to state > > where you are not seeing the logic. Again I never started a > > confortation, you had assumed and stated 'I was pitting you against > > prashantji'. And all I was doing is clearing the misconceptions and > > doubts. You went as far as to say thats you can do whatever you > like > > and we are not here to stop you. Ofcourse you aren't the lagunage > was > > not friendly. > > > > If you were happy in me not quetioning your estemmed opinion. Well > > then baskharji you are PREFECTLY correct in your predictions and > that > > you are absolutely right without any contraditions if thats how > > you like to be seen and known. So I hope you are happy now Again > > nothing personal from my end either > > > > Wish you luck and good > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Amitji, > > > > > > forget about trying to pay me my fees. I am not interested. > > > Especially from people who call themselves astrologers yet > > > continously cannot see a simple point in their own cahrts and > even > > > after being explained want to harass people and take their time. > > > > > > My advise in line of accoirdance has to be judged by You yourself > > and > > > cannot be equated in measures, because uptil now I was just > talking > > > unseriously about fees, trying to keep you away from unnecessary > > > discussions, because you wanted more and more inputs on your > chart, > > > without having care for others time and value for same. > > > > > > Just rest in peace, > > > > > > I have enough food for next 6 months. > > > we shall see after that. > > > > > > And those who wish to pay dont talk publicly, they pay. > > > > > > Please do not misjudge me, after having recieved advise your, job > > was > > > to study those points > > > and not argue, because we have other natives too on other Forums > > > waiting for astrologers to reply them,hence my post was worded > the > > > way it was. Nothing personal. > > > > > > regards, Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "planck12" <planck12@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Baskarji, > > > > One last post (again titled differently beause apprently you > have > > > > mistaken some of the other posts by other members under my > fourm > > > > title as being mine) > > > > > > > > Where is it that you want me to send your money and how much > has > > > been > > > > your consulting fee. I do not want a favour from somone who > > equates > > > > prediction with money since I guess that puts us in the same > > boat - > > > > people seeking material prudence. Leaving jokes apart > > > > > > > > Kindly send me your address where I will send you a cheque for > > your > > > > wonderful advice again please do not be in the impression > that > > > you > > > > ahve provided me with free advice. You have only answered to me > > on > > > > two queries one posted in jan of 2007 I believe and this one > > being > > > > the latest. > > > > > > > > Please reflect your amount in accordance and in line with the > > > advice > > > > you have provided. > > > > > > > > Thank you and Regards > > > > > > > > BTW: I have been practicing astrology since I was 14 (perhaps I > > am > > > > not as good as you since I always consider knowledge as a > growing > > > > field and never consider myself as an expert in anything)I have > > > also > > > > given much advice and consulation in many fourms so lets just > say > > > our > > > > karma is balanced by that respect > > > > > > > > > > Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Travel to find your fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 Dear Prathameshji, Peace hads already been made. Now why this ? Which astrologer thinks he is God or fortune maker ? Please give me name and we shall take him to task. regards, Bhakar. , Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest wrote: > > Dear Amit Ji > > God and Astrologers are different. But sometimes astrologers think that they are God and hence fortune-maker. > > Peace to everyone... > > > Best Wishes > > Jagdish > > > > > planck12 <planck12 wrote: --- In , "Bhaskar" > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > Dear Bhaskarji, > To put this post to rest. Let me assure u in the most honest means, I > had played around with forigen exchange over the past few months and > made a decent gain out of that. I just did not want to dwell into my > whole life story on a public fourm. > > So that was part of the reason I enjoyed speculative things. I did > not try it prior but having tried it once made a resonable gain, > which I paid towards my student loans and helped reduce my debt. > Again please do not say that now my chart shows debt since in > Canada pretty much 80% of the student population takes loans to > finance their eduction. > > So I do not know about continues gains nor do I know about Jupiter > Dasa but my past two months were good (not great but good) based on > the amount I invested I got a decent return in speculation. I dont > know if I should abandon the fact to fit astrology or vice versa. > > Also I do not enjoy taking challanges on issues that are petty to > satify my ego. I am happy the way I am yes in a finanical crunch but > I hold the dream of improving my situation someday somehow being > morally right. > > It is ridicoulus on your part to state that you will shave your head > on such petty issues. I do not know about your chart, but your words > reflect a very different personality. Astrologers are suppose to be > calm and not take offence to petty issues. I have not said anything > to Astrology at all, my only pretaning query was that there were too > answers to my questions and I sought reason. You blew it up into such > a high debate energy intesive argument. Saying that people like me > seek free advice etc etc, please don't judge people merely based on > charts. Know a person, share love understand their thoughts their > circumstances and then give advice and tame questions. It would be > wise to go through the previous post to see what was asked and where > it blew up into. > > You took everythng as a challange, and that quetiiong your prediction > would be an offence or a crime. But Sirji, I like to question every > advice especially in this field where its highly subjective and > different. > > Thanks > > P.S There have been many astrologers who have claimed people to be > manglik and ruined marriages etc (Im not generalizing anything) but > just stating how important it is to question certain concepts. If you > don't feel like answering you shouldn't just dont be insulting and > assuming. > > Amit > > > Dear Amitji, > > > > I do not like to be seen or known as anything but a truthful and > > honest person and astrologer. > > > > When after recieving predictions from a person like Sanjay Rathji > who > > is supposed to > > be a master in jaimini, if you come to ordinary person like myself, > > then what does it mean ? > > Does it not mean that you are questioning his esteemed opinions > > and he is NOT CORRECTLY RIGHT in HIS PREDICTIONS ? > > > > anyway lets not talk on unnecessary things. > > > > I place a challenge before you,which would not cost you > > any money. > > > > Let the best astrologers argue with me on your chart,that you can > > continously make speculative gains in Guru MahaDasha, and if they > are > > proved right, I am willing to get my head shaved. > > > > Thats a challenge from this ordinary astrologer. > > > > You may pick up all the best astrologers against me , be it 1 or 10 > > Does not matter to me. > > I am ready to give good technical arguments from my side.,but > > to them and not to anyone else who may not understand my arguments. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , "planck12" <planck12@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > Let me put it logically, I do see my own chart and I do > understand > > > what I am speaking. I had posted my query in one of the other > forms > > > as well run by Shri Sanjay Rath Ji and Guruji Rafalji who posted > a > > > response to my query saying based on jaimin principles I would > end > > up > > > making big money in speculative stocks. > > > > > > I am not trying to pit anyone against anyone, but if you see the > > > logic in my query and the various responses I have got I am sure > > you > > > will act and question just as I have. Most of them have stated > that > > > speculative stocks would be good. > > > > > > Feel free to check out the other fourm considering you feel I am > > > boasting or lying. The intention of mine is not to simply waste > > your > > > time or mine in bringing up such petty issues. But I want to > state > > > where you are not seeing the logic. Again I never started a > > > confortation, you had assumed and stated 'I was pitting you > against > > > prashantji'. And all I was doing is clearing the misconceptions > and > > > doubts. You went as far as to say thats you can do whatever you > > like > > > and we are not here to stop you. Ofcourse you aren't the lagunage > > was > > > not friendly. > > > > > > If you were happy in me not quetioning your estemmed opinion. > Well > > > then baskharji you are PREFECTLY correct in your predictions and > > that > > > you are absolutely right without any contraditions if thats > how > > > you like to be seen and known. So I hope you are happy now > Again > > > nothing personal from my end either > > > > > > Wish you luck and good > > > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Amitji, > > > > > > > > forget about trying to pay me my fees. I am not interested. > > > > Especially from people who call themselves astrologers yet > > > > continously cannot see a simple point in their own cahrts and > > even > > > > after being explained want to harass people and take their time. > > > > > > > > My advise in line of accoirdance has to be judged by You > yourself > > > and > > > > cannot be equated in measures, because uptil now I was just > > talking > > > > unseriously about fees, trying to keep you away from > unnecessary > > > > discussions, because you wanted more and more inputs on your > > chart, > > > > without having care for others time and value for same. > > > > > > > > Just rest in peace, > > > > > > > > I have enough food for next 6 months. > > > > we shall see after that. > > > > > > > > And those who wish to pay dont talk publicly, they pay. > > > > > > > > Please do not misjudge me, after having recieved advise your, > job > > > was > > > > to study those points > > > > and not argue, because we have other natives too on other > Forums > > > > waiting for astrologers to reply them,hence my post was worded > > the > > > > way it was. Nothing personal. > > > > > > > > regards, Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "planck12" <planck12@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Baskarji, > > > > > One last post (again titled differently beause apprently you > > have > > > > > mistaken some of the other posts by other members under my > > fourm > > > > > title as being mine) > > > > > > > > > > Where is it that you want me to send your money and how much > > has > > > > been > > > > > your consulting fee. I do not want a favour from somone who > > > equates > > > > > prediction with money since I guess that puts us in the same > > > boat - > > > > > people seeking material prudence. Leaving jokes apart > > > > > > > > > > Kindly send me your address where I will send you a cheque > for > > > your > > > > > wonderful advice again please do not be in the impression > > that > > > > you > > > > > ahve provided me with free advice. You have only answered to > me > > > on > > > > > two queries one posted in jan of 2007 I believe and this one > > > being > > > > > the latest. > > > > > > > > > > Please reflect your amount in accordance and in line with the > > > > advice > > > > > you have provided. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you and Regards > > > > > > > > > > BTW: I have been practicing astrology since I was 14 (perhaps > I > > > am > > > > > not as good as you since I always consider knowledge as a > > growing > > > > > field and never consider myself as an expert in anything)I > have > > > > also > > > > > given much advice and consulation in many fourms so lets just > > say > > > > our > > > > > karma is balanced by that respect > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels > in 45,000 destinations on Travel to find your fit. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2007 Report Share Posted February 19, 2007 For those who wish to know why I am impulsive, probably its because most of my Planets are in Fiery signs. Ascendant leo 15 degrees ,Vargottama Navamsha which means again leo and Sun in Gemini (Odd sign) Moon in Sagittarius(Odd and fiery) Rahu and Mars in Lagna ie,in leo may give me the temper I am infamous for.But c'mon You would also find me compasionate after getting boiled up and heat is taken off.So please see the positive aspects also of ones personality and not just the negatives. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Prathameshji, > > Peace hads already been made. Now why this ? > Which astrologer thinks he is God or fortune maker ? > Please give me name and we shall take him to task. > > regards, > Bhakar. > > > , Prathamesn Chawan > <upaoakcrest@> wrote: > > > > Dear Amit Ji > > > > God and Astrologers are different. But sometimes astrologers think > that they are God and hence fortune-maker. > > > > Peace to everyone... > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > > Jagdish > > > > > > > > > > planck12 <planck12@> wrote: --- > In , "Bhaskar" > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > To put this post to rest. Let me assure u in the most honest > means, I > > had played around with forigen exchange over the past few months > and > > made a decent gain out of that. I just did not want to dwell into > my > > whole life story on a public fourm. > > > > So that was part of the reason I enjoyed speculative things. I did > > not try it prior but having tried it once made a resonable gain, > > which I paid towards my student loans and helped reduce my debt. > > Again please do not say that now my chart shows debt since in > > Canada pretty much 80% of the student population takes loans to > > finance their eduction. > > > > So I do not know about continues gains nor do I know about Jupiter > > Dasa but my past two months were good (not great but good) based > on > > the amount I invested I got a decent return in speculation. I dont > > know if I should abandon the fact to fit astrology or vice versa. > > > > Also I do not enjoy taking challanges on issues that are petty to > > satify my ego. I am happy the way I am yes in a finanical crunch > but > > I hold the dream of improving my situation someday somehow being > > morally right. > > > > It is ridicoulus on your part to state that you will shave your > head > > on such petty issues. I do not know about your chart, but your > words > > reflect a very different personality. Astrologers are suppose to > be > > calm and not take offence to petty issues. I have not said > anything > > to Astrology at all, my only pretaning query was that there were > too > > answers to my questions and I sought reason. You blew it up into > such > > a high debate energy intesive argument. Saying that people like me > > seek free advice etc etc, please don't judge people merely based > on > > charts. Know a person, share love understand their thoughts their > > circumstances and then give advice and tame questions. It would be > > wise to go through the previous post to see what was asked and > where > > it blew up into. > > > > You took everythng as a challange, and that quetiiong your > prediction > > would be an offence or a crime. But Sirji, I like to question > every > > advice especially in this field where its highly subjective and > > different. > > > > Thanks > > > > P.S There have been many astrologers who have claimed people to be > > manglik and ruined marriages etc (Im not generalizing anything) > but > > just stating how important it is to question certain concepts. If > you > > don't feel like answering you shouldn't just dont be insulting and > > assuming. > > > > Amit > > > > > Dear Amitji, > > > > > > I do not like to be seen or known as anything but a truthful and > > > honest person and astrologer. > > > > > > When after recieving predictions from a person like Sanjay > Rathji > > who > > > is supposed to > > > be a master in jaimini, if you come to ordinary person like > myself, > > > then what does it mean ? > > > Does it not mean that you are questioning his esteemed opinions > > > and he is NOT CORRECTLY RIGHT in HIS PREDICTIONS ? > > > > > > anyway lets not talk on unnecessary things. > > > > > > I place a challenge before you,which would not cost you > > > any money. > > > > > > Let the best astrologers argue with me on your chart,that you > can > > > continously make speculative gains in Guru MahaDasha, and if > they > > are > > > proved right, I am willing to get my head shaved. > > > > > > Thats a challenge from this ordinary astrologer. > > > > > > You may pick up all the best astrologers against me , be it 1 or > 10 > > > Does not matter to me. > > > I am ready to give good technical arguments from my side.,but > > > to them and not to anyone else who may not understand my > arguments. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "planck12" <planck12@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > Let me put it logically, I do see my own chart and I do > > understand > > > > what I am speaking. I had posted my query in one of the other > > forms > > > > as well run by Shri Sanjay Rath Ji and Guruji Rafalji who > posted > > a > > > > response to my query saying based on jaimin principles I would > > end > > > up > > > > making big money in speculative stocks. > > > > > > > > I am not trying to pit anyone against anyone, but if you see > the > > > > logic in my query and the various responses I have got I am > sure > > > you > > > > will act and question just as I have. Most of them have stated > > that > > > > speculative stocks would be good. > > > > > > > > Feel free to check out the other fourm considering you feel I > am > > > > boasting or lying. The intention of mine is not to simply > waste > > > your > > > > time or mine in bringing up such petty issues. But I want to > > state > > > > where you are not seeing the logic. Again I never started a > > > > confortation, you had assumed and stated 'I was pitting you > > against > > > > prashantji'. And all I was doing is clearing the > misconceptions > > and > > > > doubts. You went as far as to say thats you can do whatever > you > > > like > > > > and we are not here to stop you. Ofcourse you aren't the > lagunage > > > was > > > > not friendly. > > > > > > > > If you were happy in me not quetioning your estemmed opinion. > > Well > > > > then baskharji you are PREFECTLY correct in your predictions > and > > > that > > > > you are absolutely right without any contraditions if thats > > how > > > > you like to be seen and known. So I hope you are happy now > > Again > > > > nothing personal from my end either > > > > > > > > Wish you luck and good > > > > > > > > Amit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Amitji, > > > > > > > > > > forget about trying to pay me my fees. I am not interested. > > > > > Especially from people who call themselves astrologers yet > > > > > continously cannot see a simple point in their own cahrts > and > > > even > > > > > after being explained want to harass people and take their > time. > > > > > > > > > > My advise in line of accoirdance has to be judged by You > > yourself > > > > and > > > > > cannot be equated in measures, because uptil now I was just > > > talking > > > > > unseriously about fees, trying to keep you away from > > unnecessary > > > > > discussions, because you wanted more and more inputs on your > > > chart, > > > > > without having care for others time and value for same. > > > > > > > > > > Just rest in peace, > > > > > > > > > > I have enough food for next 6 months. > > > > > we shall see after that. > > > > > > > > > > And those who wish to pay dont talk publicly, they pay. > > > > > > > > > > Please do not misjudge me, after having recieved advise > your, > > job > > > > was > > > > > to study those points > > > > > and not argue, because we have other natives too on other > > Forums > > > > > waiting for astrologers to reply them,hence my post was > worded > > > the > > > > > way it was. Nothing personal. > > > > > > > > > > regards, Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "planck12" > <planck12@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Baskarji, > > > > > > One last post (again titled differently beause apprently > you > > > have > > > > > > mistaken some of the other posts by other members under my > > > fourm > > > > > > title as being mine) > > > > > > > > > > > > Where is it that you want me to send your money and how > much > > > has > > > > > been > > > > > > your consulting fee. I do not want a favour from somone > who > > > > equates > > > > > > prediction with money since I guess that puts us in the > same > > > > boat - > > > > > > people seeking material prudence. Leaving jokes apart > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly send me your address where I will send you a cheque > > for > > > > your > > > > > > wonderful advice again please do not be in the > impression > > > that > > > > > you > > > > > > ahve provided me with free advice. You have only answered > to > > me > > > > on > > > > > > two queries one posted in jan of 2007 I believe and this > one > > > > being > > > > > > the latest. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please reflect your amount in accordance and in line with > the > > > > > advice > > > > > > you have provided. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you and Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW: I have been practicing astrology since I was 14 > (perhaps > > I > > > > am > > > > > > not as good as you since I always consider knowledge as a > > > growing > > > > > > field and never consider myself as an expert in anything) I > > have > > > > > also > > > > > > given much advice and consulation in many fourms so lets > just > > > say > > > > > our > > > > > > karma is balanced by that respect > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels > > in 45,000 destinations on Travel to find your fit. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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