2nd from Upapada Lagna & Upapada Lagna : Doubt

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Hi all

 

2nd from Upapada Lagna will sustain marriage.If

malefic planet occupy it OR if lord of 2nd from UL is

debilitated,it causes problems in married life-may be

separation also.

 

(1) My question is : What if 2nd from UL does not

receive any benefic OR malefic aspect AND its lord is

debilitated/neech,does that means that marriage will

have problems ? Also 7th and 12th from UL are empty

houses.Do we have any remedy for such situation also.

 

(2) Also,do we analyse the same thing in both husband

and wife horroscope. What if one has problems in

horroscope and other does not have wrt to UL and 2nd

from UL planets and houses.

 

(3) Worshipping UL Lord is good for sustainence of

marriage. What if UL is occupied by planet? It is said

that deduce the planet/deity to worship from UL lord

and deduce the form of UL deity by the planet present

in UL. For example --> Suppose UL is cancer sign whose

lord is moon. This means that worship parvati for

males. AND if it is female-chart then she must worship

lord shiva. Further suppose cancer is occupied by Mars

which means kartikeya also. So that means worship

Shiva and Kartikeya on Monday for females? Please

confirm this part.

 

thanks

Angel

 

 

 

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Dear Angel, Namaskar

 

Please let me try and answer your queries below.

 

angel wrote:

 

Hi all 2nd from Upapada Lagna will sustain marriage.If malefic planet occupy it OR if lord of 2nd from UL is debilitated,it causes problems in married life-may be separation also. (1) My question is : What if 2nd from UL does not receive any benefic OR malefic aspect AND its lord is debilitated/neech,does that means that marriage will have problems ? Also 7th and 12th from UL are empty houses.Do we have any remedy for such situation also.

 

[samir] So the lord of the 2nd from the upapada is weak.  If the lord is weak then he's going to find it difficult to sustain the marriage.  If the lord is also ill placed in Navamsa then it is unlikely that the marriage can last.  Check also whether the graha is involved in a curse.

 

(2) Also,do we analyse the same thing in both husband and wife horroscope. What if one has problems in horroscope and other does not have wrt to UL and 2nd from UL planets and houses.

 

[samir] Check that you're using the correct upapada in both charts - each native's present upapada should match the lagna of the partner.

 

(3) Worshipping UL Lord is good for sustainence of marriage.

 

[samir] I think Vistiji has corrected this on another thread.  It's lord of the second from upapada - not the grahas placed in it.

 

What if UL is occupied by planet? It is said that deduce the planet/deity to worship from UL lord and deduce the form of UL deity by the planet present in UL. For example --> Suppose UL is cancer sign whose lord is moon. This means that worship parvati for males. AND if it is female-chart then she must worship lord shiva. Further suppose cancer is occupied by Mars which means kartikeya also. So that means worship Shiva and Kartikeya on Monday for females? Please confirm this part. thanks Angel

 

I hope that helps,

 

Best wishes,

 

Samir

 

 

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Hare Ram Krishna

 

Dear Samir,

 

Namskar,

 

You mentioned about UL correlation between husband and wife; that the

present UL in one chart should represent lagan of the other. Is this

Navamsa lagan or Rasi?

 

I know that one can judge the spouse 's kundali by taking the 7H in

Navamsa as her/his Lagan.

 

Excuse my ignorance but I am not aware if there is a dictum regarding

UL for such matching . Please do enlighten.

 

Warm regards

 

Sharat

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Dear Sharat, Namaskar

 

You mentioned about UL correlation between husband and wife; that the present UL in one chart should represent lagan of the other. Is this Navamsa lagan or Rasi?

 

[samir] Rasi chakra.

 

I know that one can judge the spouse 's kundali by taking the 7H in Navamsa as her/his Lagan.

 

[samir] Yes this can also be done - but again, you need to know which relationship it is.  If it's the second partner, then you need to look at the 2nd house (8th from the 7th), if third partner, then 8th house etc.

 

Excuse my ignorance but  I am not aware if there is a dictum regarding  UL  for such matching . Please do enlighten.

 

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Dear List,

 

Update: I got married on 11th Feb 2007. Those of you in possession of my

chart, do note the exact aspect of Transit Saturn on natal Jupiter, and the

significance of the Rahu-Venus conjunction right over natal Venus.

 

Speaking of UL, my UL lord is Sun, and I was married on a Sunday. Sun is

also Naxatra dispositor of 2nd lord Moon and 7th lord Jupiter.

 

There are some other aspects which will not escape the attention of the List

regulars.

 

Rgds,

K.

 

On 2/20/07, Wendy Vasicek <jyotish (AT) optusnet (DOT) com.au> wrote:

>

> Dear Angel,

>

> I'm sure most of our members are familiar by now with the fact that this

> is

> (primarily) a "Parashara Discussion Group". I personally have nothing

> against the Jaimini method but, unless some effort is made to distinguish

> between the two schools, things may quickly become muddled. Padas are a

> Jaimini technique.

>

> To save myself unnecessary work explaining the different techniques

> (again),

> I take the liberty of including a link to an article written by Gary

> Gomes:

> http://www.bava.org/private/structure.htm

>

> Best Wishes,

> Mrs. Wendy

> http://JyotishVidya.com

> jyotish-vidya

> ___

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> "angel" <angelgoel <angelgoel%40>>

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> <%40>>;

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> <%40>>

> Tuesday, February 20, 2007 2:56 AM

> 2nd from Upapada Lagna & Upapada Lagna : Doubt

>

> Hi all

>

> 2nd from Upapada Lagna will sustain marriage.If

> malefic planet occupy it OR if lord of 2nd from UL is

> debilitated,it causes problems in married life-may be

> separation also.

>

> (1) My question is : What if 2nd from UL does not

> receive any benefic OR malefic aspect AND its lord is

> debilitated/neech,does that means that marriage will

> have problems ? Also 7th and 12th from UL are empty

> houses.Do we have any remedy for such situation also.

>

> (2) Also,do we analyse the same thing in both husband

> and wife horroscope. What if one has problems in

> horroscope and other does not have wrt to UL and 2nd

> from UL planets and houses.

>

> (3) Worshipping UL Lord is good for sustainence of

> marriage. What if UL is occupied by planet? It is said

> that deduce the planet/deity to worship from UL lord

> and deduce the form of UL deity by the planet present

> in UL. For example --> Suppose UL is cancer sign whose

> lord is moon. This means that worship parvati for

> males. AND if it is female-chart then she must worship

> lord shiva. Further suppose cancer is occupied by Mars

> which means kartikeya also. So that means worship

> Shiva and Kartikeya on Monday for females? Please

> confirm this part.

>

> thanks

> Angel

>

>

>