Guest guest Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 |OM GURAVE NAMAH| Pranaam Rafal ji, Very interesting article on Rajabhange yoga on your site. I have a few questions regarding the same. 1. 6th lord in 5th: Raja bhanga due to a follower. In the example given, the spouse accuses the native of negligence and turns away from him. What if Ma,Sa and Rh are not involved in this combination. Will the affects be as severe. 2. I have Ju (1st and 10th lord) in the 8th. I have been in both situations: a) 1st lord in 8th - Voluntarily accepted humiliation b) 10th lord in the 8th -During my Mo-Ju period, I accepted a job that I was not skilled for. 3. What will the results be for 12th lord in the 1st? Thank you Regards Supriti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Supriti , Namaskar -- Thank You. Answers below. -- Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa.com - supriti108 Thursday, February 15, 2007 5:01 PM [Om Krishna Guru] Rafal ji: Rajabhanga yoga |OM GURAVE NAMAH| Pranaam Rafal ji, Very interesting article on Rajabhange yoga on your site. I have a few questions regarding the same. 1. 6th lord in 5th: Raja bhanga due to a follower. In the example given, the spouse accuses the native of negligence and turns away from him. What if Ma,Sa and Rh are not involved in this combination. Will the affects be as severe. [rafal] Graha shows type of action, lordship defines the action. It can be severe from perspective of action - Raja Bhanga but Your Mind(moon - social perspective) will not suffer so much. Eight lord in fifth will give occult knowledge but social issues will suffer due to breaks. Type of breaks is defined by Graha. Rahu will give it through shocks etc. 2. I have Ju (1st and 10th lord) in the 8th. I have been in both situations: a) 1st lord in 8th - Voluntarily accepted humiliation b) 10th lord in the 8th -During my Mo-Ju period, I accepted a job that I was not skilled for. 3. What will the results be for 12th lord in the 1st? [rafal] Its Duryoga if Trikona lord is not yuti. Sometimes the hard/not stable circumstances are opening the doors for new rise and luck - this is when trikona lord is one of associates there. b) Job issues should be seen from D1..but only the triggers, attitude and connections (like family buisness 10L in 2H, in-law buisness (10L/11L in 7H). Job spectrum or whole Your social life whoever You are sanyaasi or self-employed researcher is seen in Swargaamsa which shows karma-phala. c) Tattwa: Laziness, Arudha:spouse from family and Bhavesh:foreign connections. Incase of Rajbhanga it can be due to own resignation. Thank you Regards Supriti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 |OM GURAVE NAMAH| Pranaam Rafal ji, Thank you for your response. I am adding my questions/comments below. Thank you so much for teaching me. Regards Supriti , "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme wrote: > > II hraum namah adityaya II > Dear Supriti , Namaskar > > ------\ -------- > > Thank You. > Answers below. > > ------\ -------- > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz, > www.rohinaa.com > > - > supriti108 > > Thursday, February 15, 2007 5:01 PM > [Om Krishna Guru] Rafal ji: Rajabhanga yoga > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > Pranaam Rafal ji, > > Very interesting article on Rajabhange yoga on your site. I have a > few questions regarding the same. > > 1. 6th lord in 5th: Raja bhanga due to a follower. In the example > given, the spouse accuses the native of negligence and turns away > from him. What if Ma,Sa and Rh are not involved in this combination. > Will the affects be as severe. > > [rafal] Graha shows type of action, lordship defines the action. [supriti] So in other words, if Su is the 6th lord in the 5th, the follower will take firm but correct (dharmic) action leading to Rajbhanga. Mo would cause soft action. It can be severe from perspective of action - Raja Bhanga but Your Mind(moon - social perspective) will not suffer so much. Eight lord in fifth will give occult knowledge but social issues will suffer due to breaks. Type of breaks is defined by Graha. Rahu will give it through shocks etc. > > > 2. I have Ju (1st and 10th lord) in the 8th. I have been in both > situations: > a) 1st lord in 8th - Voluntarily accepted humiliation > b) 10th lord in the 8th -During my Mo-Ju period, I accepted a job > that I was not skilled for. > 3. What will the results be for 12th lord in the 1st? > > [rafal] Its Duryoga if Trikona lord is not yuti. Sometimes the hard/not stable circumstances are opening the doors for new rise and luck - this is when trikona lord is one of associates there. > > b) Job issues should be seen from D1..but only the triggers, attitude and connections (like family buisness 10L in 2H, in-law buisness (10L/11L in 7H). Job spectrum or whole Your social life whoever You are sanyaasi or self-employed researcher is seen in Swargaamsa which shows karma-phala. > > c) Tattwa: Laziness, Arudha:spouse from family and Bhavesh:foreign connections. Incase of Rajbhanga it can be due to own resignation. [supriti] So in other words 12th lord in the 1st will cause one to resign to one's bad fate and not fight back if it does not have conjunction of trinal lord. Also, in the case of any rajbhanga if a trinal lord is conjunct the combination, it almost creates a vipareeta rajyoga where hard circumstances bring about positive change/transformation in life. What if the trinal lord is AK. Then through pain and suffering will come tranformation of self........ Is that right? > > > Thank you > > Regards > Supriti > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Dear Rafalji Also Kerala texts points to Rajabhanga yoga if 10th lord is in 3 except Venus for Leo lagna and Capricon lagna. Regards Ravi Nair Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Supriti , Namaskar Thank You. Answers below. Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa.com - supriti108 Thursday, February 15, 2007 5:01 PM [Om Krishna Guru] Rafal ji: Rajabhanga yoga |OM GURAVE NAMAH| Pranaam Rafal ji, Very interesting article on Rajabhange yoga on your site. I have a few questions regarding the same. 1. 6th lord in 5th: Raja bhanga due to a follower. In the example given, the spouse accuses the native of negligence and turns away from him. What if Ma,Sa and Rh are not involved in this combination. Will the affects be as severe. [rafal] Graha shows type of action, lordship defines the action. It can be severe from perspective of action - Raja Bhanga but Your Mind(moon - social perspective) will not suffer so much. Eight lord in fifth will give occult knowledge but social issues will suffer due to breaks. Type of breaks is defined by Graha. Rahu will give it through shocks etc. 2. I have Ju (1st and 10th lord) in the 8th. I have been in both situations: a) 1st lord in 8th - Voluntarily accepted humiliation b) 10th lord in the 8th -During my Mo-Ju period, I accepted a job that I was not skilled for. 3. What will the results be for 12th lord in the 1st? [rafal] Its Duryoga if Trikona lord is not yuti. Sometimes the hard/not stable circumstances are opening the doors for new rise and luck - this is when trikona lord is one of associates there. b) Job issues should be seen from D1..but only the triggers, attitude and connections (like family buisness 10L in 2H, in-law buisness (10L/11L in 7H). Job spectrum or whole Your social life whoever You are sanyaasi or self-employed researcher is seen in Swargaamsa which shows karma-phala. c) Tattwa: Laziness, Arudha:spouse from family and Bhavesh:foreign connections. Incase of Rajbhanga it can be due to own resignation. Thank you Regards Supriti We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): TV's Guilty Pleasures list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 II hraum namah adityaya II Dear Supriti , Namaskar -- Comments below. -- Regards, Rafal Gendarz, www.rohinaa.com - supriti108 Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:28 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Rafal ji: Rajabhanga yoga |OM GURAVE NAMAH| Pranaam Rafal ji, Thank you for your response. I am adding my questions/comments below. Thank you so much for teaching me. Regards Supriti , "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme wrote: > > II hraum namah adityaya II > Dear Supriti , Namaskar > > -- > > Thank You. > Answers below. > > -- > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz, > www.rohinaa.com > > - > supriti108 > > Thursday, February 15, 2007 5:01 PM > [Om Krishna Guru] Rafal ji: Rajabhanga yoga > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > Pranaam Rafal ji, > > Very interesting article on Rajabhange yoga on your site. I have a > few questions regarding the same. > > 1. 6th lord in 5th: Raja bhanga due to a follower. In the example > given, the spouse accuses the native of negligence and turns away > from him. What if Ma,Sa and Rh are not involved in this combination. > Will the affects be as severe. > > [rafal] Graha shows type of action, lordship defines the action. [supriti] So in other words, if Su is the 6th lord in the 5th, the follower will take firm but correct (dharmic) action leading to Rajbhanga. Mo would cause soft action. [rafal] Surya can show also arrogance and fall through goverment issue. Sarwartha Cintamani and Jataka Parijata advise to see Navamsa sign and Shastyamsa Devata to confirm. If benefics are there then it must be some other dosha to cause suffering. It can be severe from perspective of action - Raja Bhanga but Your Mind(moon - social perspective) will not suffer so much. Eight lord in fifth will give occult knowledge but social issues will suffer due to breaks. Type of breaks is defined by Graha. Rahu will give it through shocks etc. > > > 2. I have Ju (1st and 10th lord) in the 8th. I have been in both > situations: > a) 1st lord in 8th - Voluntarily accepted humiliation > b) 10th lord in the 8th -During my Mo-Ju period, I accepted a job > that I was not skilled for. > 3. What will the results be for 12th lord in the 1st? > > [rafal] Its Duryoga if Trikona lord is not yuti. Sometimes the hard/not stable circumstances are opening the doors for new rise and luck - this is when trikona lord is one of associates there. > > b) Job issues should be seen from D1..but only the triggers, attitude and connections (like family buisness 10L in 2H, in-law buisness (10L/11L in 7H). Job spectrum or whole Your social life whoever You are sanyaasi or self-employed researcher is seen in Swargaamsa which shows karma-phala. > > c) Tattwa: Laziness, Arudha:spouse from family and Bhavesh:foreign connections. Incase of Rajbhanga it can be due to own resignation. [supriti] So in other words 12th lord in the 1st will cause one to resign to one's bad fate and not fight back if it does not have conjunction of trinal lord. Also, in the case of any rajbhanga if a trinal lord is conjunct the combination, it almost creates a vipareeta rajyoga where hard circumstances bring about positive change/transformation in life. What if the trinal lord is AK. Then through pain and suffering will come tranformation of self......... Is that right? [rafal] Not neccesarily bad fate. It means native chooses something else. First bhava is one's inteligence per Parasara. Fate is broad term though. When AK is in Yoga - this is most important yoga in one's life. Only the Mahadasa can cause illusion that something else is more important. AK is soul and Surya is soul of Kalpurusha. > > > Thank you > > Regards > Supriti > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 |OM GURAVE NAMAH| Pranaam Rafal ji, Thank you so much for engaging in this discussion. I am learning a lot. I am summarizing my understanding. Case: 6th lord (su) in 5th yuti 5th lord (Mo AK) in 5th. Rajbhanga due to rejection of follower caused by native's arrogance/government issues. Result: In AK dasa the native walks away from the situation because of illusion that something else is important. My question here is that if AK deals with satya, why will truth not prevail during AK dasa? Also, based on my understanding if AK is connected to any house the house gets a lot of cheshta bala. Maybe my understanding of AK is faulty. Please comment. Thank you Supriti , "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme wrote: > > II hraum namah adityaya II > Dear Supriti , Namaskar > > ------\ -------- > > Comments below. > > ------\ -------- > > Regards, > Rafal Gendarz, > www.rohinaa.com > > - > supriti108 > > Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:28 PM > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Rafal ji: Rajabhanga yoga > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > Pranaam Rafal ji, > > Thank you for your response. I am adding my questions/comments below. > > Thank you so much for teaching me. > > Regards > > Supriti > , "Rafal Gendarz" starsuponme@ wrote: > > > > II hraum namah adityaya II > > Dear Supriti , Namaskar > > > > ------\ -------- > > > > Thank You. > > Answers below. > > > > ------\ -------- > > > > Regards, > > Rafal Gendarz, > > www.rohinaa.com > > > > - > > supriti108 > > > > Thursday, February 15, 2007 5:01 PM > > [Om Krishna Guru] Rafal ji: Rajabhanga yoga > > > > > > |OM GURAVE NAMAH| > > Pranaam Rafal ji, > > > > Very interesting article on Rajabhange yoga on your site. I have a > > few questions regarding the same. > > > > 1. 6th lord in 5th: Raja bhanga due to a follower. In the example > > given, the spouse accuses the native of negligence and turns away > > from him. What if Ma,Sa and Rh are not involved in this combination. > > Will the affects be as severe. > > > > [rafal] Graha shows type of action, lordship defines the action. > > [supriti] So in other words, if Su is the 6th lord in the 5th, the follower will take firm but correct (dharmic) action leading to Rajbhanga. Mo would cause soft action. > > [rafal] Surya can show also arrogance and fall through goverment issue. Sarwartha Cintamani and Jataka Parijata advise to see Navamsa sign and Shastyamsa Devata to confirm. If benefics are there then it must be some other dosha to cause suffering. [supriti] OK. So for Surya ones own arrogance and government issue > > It can be severe from perspective of action - Raja Bhanga but Your Mind(moon - social perspective) will not suffer so much. Eight lord in fifth will give occult knowledge but social issues will suffer due to breaks. Type of breaks is defined by Graha. Rahu will give it through shocks etc. > > > > > > 2. I have Ju (1st and 10th lord) in the 8th. I have been in both > > situations: > > a) 1st lord in 8th - Voluntarily accepted humiliation > > b) 10th lord in the 8th -During my Mo-Ju period, I accepted a job > > that I was not skilled for. > > > > 3. What will the results be for 12th lord in the 1st? > > > > [rafal] Its Duryoga if Trikona lord is not yuti. Sometimes the hard/not stable circumstances are opening the doors for new rise and luck - this is when trikona lord is one of associates there. > > > > b) Job issues should be seen from D1..but only the triggers, attitude and connections (like family buisness 10L in 2H, in-law buisness (10L/11L in 7H). Job spectrum or whole Your social life whoever You are sanyaasi or self-employed researcher is seen in Swargaamsa which shows karma-phala. > > > > c) Tattwa: Laziness, Arudha:spouse from family and Bhavesh:foreign connections. Incase of Rajbhanga it can be due to own resignation. > [supriti] So in other words 12th lord in the 1st will cause one to resign to one's bad fate and not fight back if it does not have conjunction of trinal lord. > > Also, in the case of any rajbhanga if a trinal lord is conjunct the combination, it almost creates a vipareeta rajyoga where hard circumstances bring about positive change/transformation in life. What if the trinal lord is AK. Then through pain and suffering will come tranformation of self........ Is that right? > > [rafal] Not neccesarily bad fate. It means native chooses something else. First bhava is one's inteligence per Parasara. Fate is broad term though. > > When AK is in Yoga - this is most important yoga in one's life. Only the Mahadasa can cause illusion that something else is more important. AK is soul and Surya is soul of Kalpurusha. > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > Regards > > Supriti > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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