Guest guest Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Shri Prashant Sahab, Namaste, //on rudrakshas arjuns lines sems to show HOW OPEN,FORWARD LOOKIGN HINDUS were but we have lost it do some distorted views of vested interests.> > let us enjoy the benifit of our culture, traditions, wealth, equally// Of course we seem to have lost the original facts, as Shri Arjunji pointed out today, just because we do not see any lady wearing Rudrakhs may not necessarily mean that it is not prescribed by the Shastras, is what we realised today. Because of changing fashions, new ideas coming in vogues by new generations, many things seem out of date, which may have actually been a part of our inetgral culture who knows. For instance My Grandfather and probably yours too had worn a Pagdi whole of his life, and so must have his other freinds, colleagues and the Noble men of his time, but if I try to do it today, I will look straight out of a comic book, and will not be allowed in many big companies to enter their offices too. My own family may be folding hands to my Dadajis photo at times of stress,or shradha cermonies and seen him wearing the Pagdi, but if emulated by me, i would be called a madman by my own people and become a laughing stock. Now this has remained just in certain royal families especially when the men folk in the Baraat (Bridegrroms procession) take the grand walk to the Brides door step. This was just a instance showing how cultures undergo change by the passage of times, and many other things may too have undergone change, which we may find strange today, but must have been absolutely normal and right, at some point of time. affectionately, Bhaskar. , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, arjun, Gayathri and others > > there is need toread a classical work in sanskrit a few times sanskrit is a tricky language that can be read in different interpretations depending n our knowledge, unless we learn it like they di din past ages starting with amarakosha a dictionary of over 8 lak words byheart and apply them to context we can never make sense, we learn the right meanin as we grow > > RIGHT NOW WE HAVE DISTORTED versions of some not all classics esp ones don b y Westerners like Max Muller, he has given a perverted version of Manu smurithi and vedas etc. and today all who read his works feel akward about being Hindu. when it is not ment to be so as a church based professional to push it and destroy hinduism he has donea great job so lets not feel bad about what we dont know rather read or ask people who can read sanskrit well and get interpretations > > Manu had laid many good las and some strit ones too are there for all but select distorted ones are in circulation. it is worth a ffreesh look by al of us. > > on rudrakshas arjuns lines sems to show HOW OPEN , FORWARD LOOKIGN HINDUS were but we have lost it do some distorted views of vested interests. > > let us enjoy the benifit of our culture, traditions, wealth, equally > > best wishes > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Dear Panditji, > > I have not quoted any classics. > I have mentioned my personal observations only, > which may be accepted or rejected, > depending on the individual. > Since Your goodself had quoted classics and the Rudraksha as > You mentioned can be worn even by a "STREE" , we shall > take that as correct. > But I still mantain that i have never seen any > women wearing Rudrakhsa. > In the same way if I take the classical > quote > "Shudra Ganwar Pashu Naari " > sakal taadna ke adhikari, > I would certainly not subject my wife to taadna > because it was quoted in the classics. > In the same way if classics have to be adhered to in > complete then, i would not watch the face > of my new born if born in a particular Nakshatra, > and not blend my modern thinking and twist them, > as per my convenience. If I have to abide by classics only, > then i would abide by all injunctions mentioned for > Gadanta births etc. > > Anyway, this is subjective as well as relative > and also individualistic approach to matters. > > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > , "panditarjun2004" > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > dear friends > > > > any person making a statement in a public group on the net > enforcing > > a code based on gender bias owes stantiation through classical > > corroboration. i have done extensive research on rudraksha and have > > bought and assimilated various puranas and upanishads that narrate > > the significance of these rudraksha. > > > > shivapurana, vidveshwara samhita, 25th chapter, 46th verse thus > says: > > > > "sarvashramanam varnanam STREE shudranam, shivajnaya dharyam > sadaiva > > rudraksha" > > > > there are so many other classics which clearly mention that > rudraksha > > can be worn by any person without any gender bias. > > > > since the shastras clearly mentioned that any native of any caste > and > > religion, man or woman, can wear rudrakshas, natives may wear > > energised rudraksha and get the benefits. the only condition that > is > > written is that since lord shiva dwells in these rudraksha and each > > rudraksha is attached to certain dieties, they need to be energised > > as per the puranas. > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Madam, > > > > > > I do not think I have seen any girl or lady wearing Rudrakhsa > > > till today. So I feel it may not be right for one to wear. > > > If You notice in Devi temples too, for ladies another bowl > > > of red Vibhuti/Sindoor is kept while for Gents the normal > > > ash coloured. This gives us the clue. > > > > > > It is better not to tattoo symbols of Aum,Hanumanji > > > and such other ones, on ones body, cause we are not in > > > pure state of existence all the time, during > > > daily ablutions, during conjugal state etc. > > > and at such time the symbols if touched with impure > > > hands ,may loose the efficiacy for which they > > > were first put there.So better forget it. > > > This goes with Gents as well as ladies. > > > > > > Ladies may alternatively wear Tulsi Mala.studded in Gold > > > or silver. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , GYATHRI PATANJOTHI > > > <gyathri1983@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear everyone, > > > > > > > > There is always suggestions from my folks that girls should > not > > > wear rudrakshas and aum symbols. > > > > It is also said that aum symbols tattoed to the body is not > > good > > > and may cause harm. > > > > Is this true and can a girl tattoo her body with holy symbols > > or > > > is it prohibited to do so. > > > > So does gender reallt matter in this issue? > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Sir, I remember one more item in attire. Which is Dhoti, In Calcutta many rich Marwadis walk on the roads and travel in cars in Dhoti,but in Bombay if I start wearing a Dhoti and travelling, even in my own area,I would look like a stranger, though Dhoti-Kurta was our traditional dress, just half a century ago.So time as well as regioanl differences and concentration of cultures at a certain place (More Marwadis in calcutta) also make a diiference in certain parameters changing with people and though right,yet making them acceptable at certain place and time, and yet unacceptable at other places and times. regards, Bhaskar. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Shri Prashant Sahab, > > Namaste, > > //on rudrakshas arjuns lines sems to show HOW OPEN,FORWARD LOOKIGN > HINDUS were but we have lost it do some distorted views of vested > interests.> > > let us enjoy the benifit of our culture, traditions, wealth, > equally// > > > Of course we seem to have lost the original facts, as > Shri Arjunji pointed out today, just because we do not see > any lady wearing Rudrakhs may not necessarily mean that > it is not prescribed by the Shastras, is what we realised > today. Because of changing fashions, new ideas coming in > vogues by new generations, many things seem > out of date, which may have actually been a part of > our inetgral culture who knows. For instance My Grandfather > and probably yours too had worn a Pagdi whole of his life, > and so must have his other freinds, colleagues and the > Noble men of his time, but if I try to > do it today, I will look straight > out of a comic book, and will not be allowed in many > big companies to enter their offices too. > My own family may be folding hands to my Dadajis photo > at times of stress,or shradha cermonies and seen > him wearing the Pagdi, but if emulated by > me, i would be called a madman by my own people and > become a laughing stock. > Now this has remained just in certain royal families > especially when the men folk in the Baraat > (Bridegrroms procession) take the grand walk to > the Brides door step. > > This was just a instance showing how cultures undergo > change by the passage of times, > and many other things may too have undergone change, > which we may find strange today, but must have been > absolutely normal and right, at some > point of time. > > affectionately, > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar, arjun, Gayathri and others > > > > there is need toread a classical work in sanskrit a few times > sanskrit is a tricky language that can be read in different > interpretations depending n our knowledge, unless we learn it like > they di din past ages starting with amarakosha a dictionary of over 8 > lak words byheart and apply them to context we can never make sense, > we learn the right meanin as we grow > > > > RIGHT NOW WE HAVE DISTORTED versions of some not all classics esp > ones don b y Westerners like Max Muller, he has given a perverted > version of Manu smurithi and vedas etc. and today all who read his > works feel akward about being Hindu. when it is not ment to be so as > a church based professional to push it and destroy hinduism he has > donea great job so lets not feel bad about what we dont know rather > read or ask people who can read sanskrit well and get interpretations > > > > Manu had laid many good las and some strit ones too are there for > all but select distorted ones are in circulation. it is worth a > ffreesh look by al of us. > > > > on rudrakshas arjuns lines sems to show HOW OPEN , FORWARD > LOOKIGN HINDUS were but we have lost it do some distorted views of > vested interests. > > > > let us enjoy the benifit of our culture, traditions, wealth, > equally > > > > best wishes > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > Dear Panditji, > > > > I have not quoted any classics. > > I have mentioned my personal observations only, > > which may be accepted or rejected, > > depending on the individual. > > Since Your goodself had quoted classics and the Rudraksha as > > You mentioned can be worn even by a "STREE" , we shall > > take that as correct. > > But I still mantain that i have never seen any > > women wearing Rudrakhsa. > > In the same way if I take the classical > > quote > > "Shudra Ganwar Pashu Naari " > > sakal taadna ke adhikari, > > I would certainly not subject my wife to taadna > > because it was quoted in the classics. > > In the same way if classics have to be adhered to in > > complete then, i would not watch the face > > of my new born if born in a particular Nakshatra, > > and not blend my modern thinking and twist them, > > as per my convenience. If I have to abide by classics only, > > then i would abide by all injunctions mentioned for > > Gadanta births etc. > > > > Anyway, this is subjective as well as relative > > and also individualistic approach to matters. > > > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > any person making a statement in a public group on the net > > enforcing > > > a code based on gender bias owes stantiation through classical > > > corroboration. i have done extensive research on rudraksha and > have > > > bought and assimilated various puranas and upanishads that > narrate > > > the significance of these rudraksha. > > > > > > shivapurana, vidveshwara samhita, 25th chapter, 46th verse thus > > says: > > > > > > "sarvashramanam varnanam STREE shudranam, shivajnaya dharyam > > sadaiva > > > rudraksha" > > > > > > there are so many other classics which clearly mention that > > rudraksha > > > can be worn by any person without any gender bias. > > > > > > since the shastras clearly mentioned that any native of any caste > > and > > > religion, man or woman, can wear rudrakshas, natives may wear > > > energised rudraksha and get the benefits. the only condition that > > is > > > written is that since lord shiva dwells in these rudraksha and > each > > > rudraksha is attached to certain dieties, they need to be > energised > > > as per the puranas. > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > pandit arjun > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Madam, > > > > > > > > I do not think I have seen any girl or lady wearing Rudrakhsa > > > > till today. So I feel it may not be right for one to wear. > > > > If You notice in Devi temples too, for ladies another bowl > > > > of red Vibhuti/Sindoor is kept while for Gents the normal > > > > ash coloured. This gives us the clue. > > > > > > > > It is better not to tattoo symbols of Aum,Hanumanji > > > > and such other ones, on ones body, cause we are not in > > > > pure state of existence all the time, during > > > > daily ablutions, during conjugal state etc. > > > > and at such time the symbols if touched with impure > > > > hands ,may loose the efficiacy for which they > > > > were first put there.So better forget it. > > > > This goes with Gents as well as ladies. > > > > > > > > Ladies may alternatively wear Tulsi Mala.studded in Gold > > > > or silver. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , GYATHRI PATANJOTHI > > > > <gyathri1983@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear everyone, > > > > > > > > > > There is always suggestions from my folks that girls should > > not > > > > wear rudrakshas and aum symbols. > > > > > It is also said that aum symbols tattoed to the body is not > > > good > > > > and may cause harm. > > > > > Is this true and can a girl tattoo her body with holy symbols > > > or > > > > is it prohibited to do so. > > > > > So does gender reallt matter in this issue? > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > > > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Bhaskar i do agree attire can change but other things can remain what is within our control and not see by others to bother on and doent we see the cross worn by christians, the skull caps by hews and muslims so we need not worry if people feel strange on what we feel is normal. why limit it to ceremonies WELL WE NEED one film hit to make it a fashion dont we see pathan robes, take over now from a few hit movies may be its time will come too-pagadi, dothi et.. when we know we save a lot of water, soap, electricty washing them and ready to wear. and probably more hygenic ina humid country as it ventilates well and KRACK creams need not be sold here if we have good ventilated, sweat absorbing clothes...! prashant Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Sir, I remember one more item in attire. Which is Dhoti, In Calcutta many rich Marwadis walk on the roads and travel in cars in Dhoti,but in Bombay if I start wearing a Dhoti and travelling, even in my own area,I would look like a stranger, though Dhoti-Kurta was our traditional dress, just half a century ago.So time as well as regioanl differences and concentration of cultures at a certain place (More Marwadis in calcutta) also make a diiference in certain parameters changing with people and though right,yet making them acceptable at certain place and time, and yet unacceptable at other places and times. regards, Bhaskar. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Shri Prashant Sahab, > > Namaste, > > //on rudrakshas arjuns lines sems to show HOW OPEN,FORWARD LOOKIGN > HINDUS were but we have lost it do some distorted views of vested > interests.> > > let us enjoy the benifit of our culture, traditions, wealth, > equally// > > > Of course we seem to have lost the original facts, as > Shri Arjunji pointed out today, just because we do not see > any lady wearing Rudrakhs may not necessarily mean that > it is not prescribed by the Shastras, is what we realised > today. Because of changing fashions, new ideas coming in > vogues by new generations, many things seem > out of date, which may have actually been a part of > our inetgral culture who knows. For instance My Grandfather > and probably yours too had worn a Pagdi whole of his life, > and so must have his other freinds, colleagues and the > Noble men of his time, but if I try to > do it today, I will look straight > out of a comic book, and will not be allowed in many > big companies to enter their offices too. > My own family may be folding hands to my Dadajis photo > at times of stress,or shradha cermonies and seen > him wearing the Pagdi, but if emulated by > me, i would be called a madman by my own people and > become a laughing stock. > Now this has remained just in certain royal families > especially when the men folk in the Baraat > (Bridegrroms procession) take the grand walk to > the Brides door step. > > This was just a instance showing how cultures undergo > change by the passage of times, > and many other things may too have undergone change, > which we may find strange today, but must have been > absolutely normal and right, at some > point of time. > > affectionately, > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar, arjun, Gayathri and others > > > > there is need toread a classical work in sanskrit a few times > sanskrit is a tricky language that can be read in different > interpretations depending n our knowledge, unless we learn it like > they di din past ages starting with amarakosha a dictionary of over 8 > lak words byheart and apply them to context we can never make sense, > we learn the right meanin as we grow > > > > RIGHT NOW WE HAVE DISTORTED versions of some not all classics esp > ones don b y Westerners like Max Muller, he has given a perverted > version of Manu smurithi and vedas etc. and today all who read his > works feel akward about being Hindu. when it is not ment to be so as > a church based professional to push it and destroy hinduism he has > donea great job so lets not feel bad about what we dont know rather > read or ask people who can read sanskrit well and get interpretations > > > > Manu had laid many good las and some strit ones too are there for > all but select distorted ones are in circulation. it is worth a > ffreesh look by al of us. > > > > on rudrakshas arjuns lines sems to show HOW OPEN , FORWARD > LOOKIGN HINDUS were but we have lost it do some distorted views of > vested interests. > > > > let us enjoy the benifit of our culture, traditions, wealth, > equally > > > > best wishes > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > Dear Panditji, > > > > I have not quoted any classics. > > I have mentioned my personal observations only, > > which may be accepted or rejected, > > depending on the individual. > > Since Your goodself had quoted classics and the Rudraksha as > > You mentioned can be worn even by a "STREE" , we shall > > take that as correct. > > But I still mantain that i have never seen any > > women wearing Rudrakhsa. > > In the same way if I take the classical > > quote > > "Shudra Ganwar Pashu Naari " > > sakal taadna ke adhikari, > > I would certainly not subject my wife to taadna > > because it was quoted in the classics. > > In the same way if classics have to be adhered to in > > complete then, i would not watch the face > > of my new born if born in a particular Nakshatra, > > and not blend my modern thinking and twist them, > > as per my convenience. If I have to abide by classics only, > > then i would abide by all injunctions mentioned for > > Gadanta births etc. > > > > Anyway, this is subjective as well as relative > > and also individualistic approach to matters. > > > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > any person making a statement in a public group on the net > > enforcing > > > a code based on gender bias owes stantiation through classical > > > corroboration. i have done extensive research on rudraksha and > have > > > bought and assimilated various puranas and upanishads that > narrate > > > the significance of these rudraksha. > > > > > > shivapurana, vidveshwara samhita, 25th chapter, 46th verse thus > > says: > > > > > > "sarvashramanam varnanam STREE shudranam, shivajnaya dharyam > > sadaiva > > > rudraksha" > > > > > > there are so many other classics which clearly mention that > > rudraksha > > > can be worn by any person without any gender bias. > > > > > > since the shastras clearly mentioned that any native of any caste > > and > > > religion, man or woman, can wear rudrakshas, natives may wear > > > energised rudraksha and get the benefits. the only condition that > > is > > > written is that since lord shiva dwells in these rudraksha and > each > > > rudraksha is attached to certain dieties, they need to be > energised > > > as per the puranas. > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > pandit arjun > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Madam, > > > > > > > > I do not think I have seen any girl or lady wearing Rudrakhsa > > > > till today. So I feel it may not be right for one to wear. > > > > If You notice in Devi temples too, for ladies another bowl > > > > of red Vibhuti/Sindoor is kept while for Gents the normal > > > > ash coloured. This gives us the clue. > > > > > > > > It is better not to tattoo symbols of Aum,Hanumanji > > > > and such other ones, on ones body, cause we are not in > > > > pure state of existence all the time, during > > > > daily ablutions, during conjugal state etc. > > > > and at such time the symbols if touched with impure > > > > hands ,may loose the efficiacy for which they > > > > were first put there.So better forget it. > > > > This goes with Gents as well as ladies. > > > > > > > > Ladies may alternatively wear Tulsi Mala.studded in Gold > > > > or silver. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , GYATHRI PATANJOTHI > > > > <gyathri1983@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear everyone, > > > > > > > > > > There is always suggestions from my folks that girls should > > not > > > > wear rudrakshas and aum symbols. > > > > > It is also said that aum symbols tattoed to the body is not > > > good > > > > and may cause harm. > > > > > Is this true and can a girl tattoo her body with holy symbols > > > or > > > > is it prohibited to do so. > > > > > So does gender reallt matter in this issue? > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > > > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Shri Prashant sahab, yes thats the boon or bane I dont know what to say. But the film and Media have a lot to do with the changing fashions and behaviours of today. Gay behaviours which were a taboo to speak just some time ago, are now gaining front page headlines today , and giving more power to these perverts. Now we are having bell bottoms which were uptil 10 years back a fashion of the past, and I am sure, that in recent future we shall see the drain pipes of 50 years back, coming in vouge once again. astrology is also coming back in fashion with the media coverage giving much credence to such sciences which is a good work from the Media,to their credit. The films are highlighting the Dons as great citizens of society and the glamour attached to them is making way for the youth of today going wayward. Same with terrorism. Highlighting of certain issues for vote capturing from the minorities is also a bad work from the media, but what can they do. the control is in the hands of the politicians in this case. and so and and so forth.......... regards, bhaskar. , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Bhaskar > i do agree attire can change but other things can remain what is within our control and not see by others to bother on > and doent we see the cross worn by christians, the skull caps by hews and muslims so we need not worry if people feel strange on what we feel is normal. > > why limit it to ceremonies WELL WE NEED one film hit to make it a fashion dont we see pathan robes, take over now from a few hit movies may be its time will come too-pagadi, dothi et.. when we know we save a lot of water, soap, electricty washing them and ready to wear. and probably more hygenic ina humid country as it ventilates well and KRACK creams need not be sold here if we have good ventilated, sweat absorbing clothes...! > > > prashant > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > Sir, > > I remember one more item in attire. Which is Dhoti, > In Calcutta many rich Marwadis walk on the roads and > travel in cars in Dhoti,but in Bombay if I start > wearing a Dhoti and travelling, even in my own area,I > would look like a stranger, though Dhoti-Kurta was our > traditional dress, just half a century ago.So time > as well as regioanl differences and concentration of > cultures at a certain place (More Marwadis in calcutta) > also make a diiference in certain parameters changing > with people and though right,yet making them > acceptable at certain place and time, and yet > unacceptable at other places and times. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > , "Bhaskar" > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Shri Prashant Sahab, > > > > Namaste, > > > > //on rudrakshas arjuns lines sems to show HOW OPEN,FORWARD LOOKIGN > > HINDUS were but we have lost it do some distorted views of vested > > interests.> > > > let us enjoy the benifit of our culture, traditions, wealth, > > equally// > > > > > > Of course we seem to have lost the original facts, as > > Shri Arjunji pointed out today, just because we do not see > > any lady wearing Rudrakhs may not necessarily mean that > > it is not prescribed by the Shastras, is what we realised > > today. Because of changing fashions, new ideas coming in > > vogues by new generations, many things seem > > out of date, which may have actually been a part of > > our inetgral culture who knows. For instance My Grandfather > > and probably yours too had worn a Pagdi whole of his life, > > and so must have his other freinds, colleagues and the > > Noble men of his time, but if I try to > > do it today, I will look straight > > out of a comic book, and will not be allowed in many > > big companies to enter their offices too. > > My own family may be folding hands to my Dadajis photo > > at times of stress,or shradha cermonies and seen > > him wearing the Pagdi, but if emulated by > > me, i would be called a madman by my own people and > > become a laughing stock. > > Now this has remained just in certain royal families > > especially when the men folk in the Baraat > > (Bridegrroms procession) take the grand walk to > > the Brides door step. > > > > This was just a instance showing how cultures undergo > > change by the passage of times, > > and many other things may too have undergone change, > > which we may find strange today, but must have been > > absolutely normal and right, at some > > point of time. > > > > affectionately, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > <gbp_kumar@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, arjun, Gayathri and others > > > > > > there is need toread a classical work in sanskrit a few times > > sanskrit is a tricky language that can be read in different > > interpretations depending n our knowledge, unless we learn it like > > they di din past ages starting with amarakosha a dictionary of over > 8 > > lak words byheart and apply them to context we can never make > sense, > > we learn the right meanin as we grow > > > > > > RIGHT NOW WE HAVE DISTORTED versions of some not all classics > esp > > ones don b y Westerners like Max Muller, he has given a perverted > > version of Manu smurithi and vedas etc. and today all who read his > > works feel akward about being Hindu. when it is not ment to be so > as > > a church based professional to push it and destroy hinduism he has > > donea great job so lets not feel bad about what we dont know rather > > read or ask people who can read sanskrit well and get > interpretations > > > > > > Manu had laid many good las and some strit ones too are there > for > > all but select distorted ones are in circulation. it is worth a > > ffreesh look by al of us. > > > > > > on rudrakshas arjuns lines sems to show HOW OPEN , FORWARD > > LOOKIGN HINDUS were but we have lost it do some distorted views of > > vested interests. > > > > > > let us enjoy the benifit of our culture, traditions, wealth, > > equally > > > > > > best wishes > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > Dear Panditji, > > > > > > I have not quoted any classics. > > > I have mentioned my personal observations only, > > > which may be accepted or rejected, > > > depending on the individual. > > > Since Your goodself had quoted classics and the Rudraksha as > > > You mentioned can be worn even by a "STREE" , we shall > > > take that as correct. > > > But I still mantain that i have never seen any > > > women wearing Rudrakhsa. > > > In the same way if I take the classical > > > quote > > > "Shudra Ganwar Pashu Naari " > > > sakal taadna ke adhikari, > > > I would certainly not subject my wife to taadna > > > because it was quoted in the classics. > > > In the same way if classics have to be adhered to in > > > complete then, i would not watch the face > > > of my new born if born in a particular Nakshatra, > > > and not blend my modern thinking and twist them, > > > as per my convenience. If I have to abide by classics only, > > > then i would abide by all injunctions mentioned for > > > Gadanta births etc. > > > > > > Anyway, this is subjective as well as relative > > > and also individualistic approach to matters. > > > > > > best wishes, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , "panditarjun2004" > > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > any person making a statement in a public group on the net > > > enforcing > > > > a code based on gender bias owes stantiation through classical > > > > corroboration. i have done extensive research on rudraksha and > > have > > > > bought and assimilated various puranas and upanishads that > > narrate > > > > the significance of these rudraksha. > > > > > > > > shivapurana, vidveshwara samhita, 25th chapter, 46th verse thus > > > says: > > > > > > > > "sarvashramanam varnanam STREE shudranam, shivajnaya dharyam > > > sadaiva > > > > rudraksha" > > > > > > > > there are so many other classics which clearly mention that > > > rudraksha > > > > can be worn by any person without any gender bias. > > > > > > > > since the shastras clearly mentioned that any native of any > caste > > > and > > > > religion, man or woman, can wear rudrakshas, natives may wear > > > > energised rudraksha and get the benefits. the only condition > that > > > is > > > > written is that since lord shiva dwells in these rudraksha and > > each > > > > rudraksha is attached to certain dieties, they need to be > > energised > > > > as per the puranas. > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > > pandit arjun > > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Madam, > > > > > > > > > > I do not think I have seen any girl or lady wearing Rudrakhsa > > > > > till today. So I feel it may not be right for one to wear. > > > > > If You notice in Devi temples too, for ladies another bowl > > > > > of red Vibhuti/Sindoor is kept while for Gents the normal > > > > > ash coloured. This gives us the clue. > > > > > > > > > > It is better not to tattoo symbols of Aum,Hanumanji > > > > > and such other ones, on ones body, cause we are not in > > > > > pure state of existence all the time, during > > > > > daily ablutions, during conjugal state etc. > > > > > and at such time the symbols if touched with impure > > > > > hands ,may loose the efficiacy for which they > > > > > were first put there.So better forget it. > > > > > This goes with Gents as well as ladies. > > > > > > > > > > Ladies may alternatively wear Tulsi Mala.studded in Gold > > > > > or silver. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , GYATHRI PATANJOTHI > > > > > <gyathri1983@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > There is always suggestions from my folks that girls should > > > not > > > > > wear rudrakshas and aum symbols. > > > > > > It is also said that aum symbols tattoed to the body is not > > > > good > > > > > and may cause harm. > > > > > > Is this true and can a girl tattoo her body with holy > symbols > > > > or > > > > > is it prohibited to do so. > > > > > > So does gender reallt matter in this issue? > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > > > > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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