Guest guest Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Dear Bhaskar, arjun, Gayathri and others there is need toread a classical work in sanskrit a few times sanskrit is a tricky language that can be read in different interpretations depending n our knowledge, unless we learn it like they di din past ages starting with amarakosha a dictionary of over 8 lak words byheart and apply them to context we can never make sense, we learn the right meanin as we grow RIGHT NOW WE HAVE DISTORTED versions of some not all classics esp ones don b y Westerners like Max Muller, he has given a perverted version of Manu smurithi and vedas etc. and today all who read his works feel akward about being Hindu. when it is not ment to be so as a church based professional to push it and destroy hinduism he has donea great job so lets not feel bad about what we dont know rather read or ask people who can read sanskrit well and get interpretations Manu had laid many good las and some strit ones too are there for all but select distorted ones are in circulation. it is worth a ffreesh look by al of us. on rudrakshas arjuns lines sems to show HOW OPEN , FORWARD LOOKIGN HINDUS were but we have lost it do some distorted views of vested interests. let us enjoy the benifit of our culture, traditions, wealth, equally best wishes Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Panditji, I have not quoted any classics. I have mentioned my personal observations only, which may be accepted or rejected, depending on the individual. Since Your goodself had quoted classics and the Rudraksha as You mentioned can be worn even by a "STREE" , we shall take that as correct. But I still mantain that i have never seen any women wearing Rudrakhsa. In the same way if I take the classical quote "Shudra Ganwar Pashu Naari " sakal taadna ke adhikari, I would certainly not subject my wife to taadna because it was quoted in the classics. In the same way if classics have to be adhered to in complete then, i would not watch the face of my new born if born in a particular Nakshatra, and not blend my modern thinking and twist them, as per my convenience. If I have to abide by classics only, then i would abide by all injunctions mentioned for Gadanta births etc. Anyway, this is subjective as well as relative and also individualistic approach to matters. best wishes, Bhaskar. , "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear friends > > any person making a statement in a public group on the net enforcing > a code based on gender bias owes stantiation through classical > corroboration. i have done extensive research on rudraksha and have > bought and assimilated various puranas and upanishads that narrate > the significance of these rudraksha. > > shivapurana, vidveshwara samhita, 25th chapter, 46th verse thus says: > > "sarvashramanam varnanam STREE shudranam, shivajnaya dharyam sadaiva > rudraksha" > > there are so many other classics which clearly mention that rudraksha > can be worn by any person without any gender bias. > > since the shastras clearly mentioned that any native of any caste and > religion, man or woman, can wear rudrakshas, natives may wear > energised rudraksha and get the benefits. the only condition that is > written is that since lord shiva dwells in these rudraksha and each > rudraksha is attached to certain dieties, they need to be energised > as per the puranas. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > , "Bhaskar" > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear Madam, > > > > I do not think I have seen any girl or lady wearing Rudrakhsa > > till today. So I feel it may not be right for one to wear. > > If You notice in Devi temples too, for ladies another bowl > > of red Vibhuti/Sindoor is kept while for Gents the normal > > ash coloured. This gives us the clue. > > > > It is better not to tattoo symbols of Aum,Hanumanji > > and such other ones, on ones body, cause we are not in > > pure state of existence all the time, during > > daily ablutions, during conjugal state etc. > > and at such time the symbols if touched with impure > > hands ,may loose the efficiacy for which they > > were first put there.So better forget it. > > This goes with Gents as well as ladies. > > > > Ladies may alternatively wear Tulsi Mala.studded in Gold > > or silver. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , GYATHRI PATANJOTHI > > <gyathri1983@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear everyone, > > > > > > There is always suggestions from my folks that girls should not > > wear rudrakshas and aum symbols. > > > It is also said that aum symbols tattoed to the body is not > good > > and may cause harm. > > > Is this true and can a girl tattoo her body with holy symbols > or > > is it prohibited to do so. > > > So does gender reallt matter in this issue? > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Dear Bhaskar, arjun, Gayathri and others there is need toread a classical work in sanskrit a few times sanskrit is a tricky language that can be read in different interpretations depending n our knowledge, unless we learn it like they di din past ages starting with amarakosha a dictionary of over 8 lak words byheart and apply them to context we can never make sense, we learn the right meanin as we grow RIGHT NOW WE HAVE DISTORTED versions of some not all classics esp ones don b y Westerners like Max Muller, he has given a perverted version of Manu smurithi and vedas etc. and today all who read his works feel akward about being Hindu. when it is not ment to be so as a church based professional to push it and destroy hinduism he has donea great job so lets not feel bad about what we dont know rather read or ask people who can read sanskrit well and get interpretations Manu had laid many good las and some strit ones too are there for all but select distorted ones are in circulation. it is worth a ffreesh look by al of us. on rudrakshas arjuns lines sems to show HOW OPEN , FORWARD LOOKIGN HINDUS were but we have lost it do some distorted views of vested interests. let us enjoy the benifit of our culture, traditions, wealth, equally best wishes Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Panditji, I have not quoted any classics. I have mentioned my personal observations only, which may be accepted or rejected, depending on the individual. Since Your goodself had quoted classics and the Rudraksha as You mentioned can be worn even by a "STREE" , we shall take that as correct. But I still mantain that i have never seen any women wearing Rudrakhsa. In the same way if I take the classical quote "Shudra Ganwar Pashu Naari " sakal taadna ke adhikari, I would certainly not subject my wife to taadna because it was quoted in the classics. In the same way if classics have to be adhered to in complete then, i would not watch the face of my new born if born in a particular Nakshatra, and not blend my modern thinking and twist them, as per my convenience. If I have to abide by classics only, then i would abide by all injunctions mentioned for Gadanta births etc. Anyway, this is subjective as well as relative and also individualistic approach to matters. best wishes, Bhaskar. , "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear friends > > any person making a statement in a public group on the net enforcing > a code based on gender bias owes stantiation through classical > corroboration. i have done extensive research on rudraksha and have > bought and assimilated various puranas and upanishads that narrate > the significance of these rudraksha. > > shivapurana, vidveshwara samhita, 25th chapter, 46th verse thus says: > > "sarvashramanam varnanam STREE shudranam, shivajnaya dharyam sadaiva > rudraksha" > > there are so many other classics which clearly mention that rudraksha > can be worn by any person without any gender bias. > > since the shastras clearly mentioned that any native of any caste and > religion, man or woman, can wear rudrakshas, natives may wear > energised rudraksha and get the benefits. the only condition that is > written is that since lord shiva dwells in these rudraksha and each > rudraksha is attached to certain dieties, they need to be energised > as per the puranas. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > , "Bhaskar" > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear Madam, > > > > I do not think I have seen any girl or lady wearing Rudrakhsa > > till today. So I feel it may not be right for one to wear. > > If You notice in Devi temples too, for ladies another bowl > > of red Vibhuti/Sindoor is kept while for Gents the normal > > ash coloured. This gives us the clue. > > > > It is better not to tattoo symbols of Aum,Hanumanji > > and such other ones, on ones body, cause we are not in > > pure state of existence all the time, during > > daily ablutions, during conjugal state etc. > > and at such time the symbols if touched with impure > > hands ,may loose the efficiacy for which they > > were first put there.So better forget it. > > This goes with Gents as well as ladies. > > > > Ladies may alternatively wear Tulsi Mala.studded in Gold > > or silver. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , GYATHRI PATANJOTHI > > <gyathri1983@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear everyone, > > > > > > There is always suggestions from my folks that girls should not > > wear rudrakshas and aum symbols. > > > It is also said that aum symbols tattoed to the body is not > good > > and may cause harm. > > > Is this true and can a girl tattoo her body with holy symbols > or > > is it prohibited to do so. > > > So does gender reallt matter in this issue? > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Dear Bhaskar, arjun, Gayathri and others there is need to read classical works in sanskrit a few times, sanskrit is a tricky language that can be read in different interpretations depending on our knowledge, unless we learn it like they did in past ages starting with amarakosha a dictionary of over 8 lak words by heart and apply them to context we can never make sense, we learn the right meanings as we grow RIGHT NOW WE HAVE DISTORTED versions of some not all classics esp ones done by Westerners like Max Muller, he has given a perverted version of Manu smurithi and vedas etc. and today all who read his works feel akward about being Hindu. when it is not meant to be so as a church based professional to push it and destroy hinduism he has done a great job so lets not feel bad about what we dont know rather read or ask people who can read sanskrit well and get interpretations the safron party bashing is a fashion due to distorted interpretations of Hinduims froma western standpoint. not by experience. Manu had laid many good laws and some strict ones too are there for all but select distorted ones are in circulation. it is worth a ffreesh look by al of us. the bad ones quoted onhow women must be is not what he meant but is pouplar sadly aand what is in circulation if at all he meant sure I will also not agree to them. on rudrakshas arjun's lines seems to show HOW OPEN , FORWARD LOOKIGN HINDUS were but we have lost it do some distorted views of vested interests. let us enjoy the benifit of our culture, traditions, wealth, equally best wishes Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Panditji, I have not quoted any classics. I have mentioned my personal observations only, which may be accepted or rejected, depending on the individual. Since Your goodself had quoted classics and the Rudraksha as You mentioned can be worn even by a "STREE" , we shall take that as correct. But I still mantain that i have never seen any women wearing Rudrakhsa. In the same way if I take the classical quote "Shudra Ganwar Pashu Naari " sakal taadna ke adhikari, I would certainly not subject my wife to taadna because it was quoted in the classics. In the same way if classics have to be adhered to in complete then, i would not watch the face of my new born if born in a particular Nakshatra, and not blend my modern thinking and twist them, as per my convenience. If I have to abide by classics only, then i would abide by all injunctions mentioned for Gadanta births etc. Anyway, this is subjective as well as relative and also individualistic approach to matters. best wishes, Bhaskar. , "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear friends > > any person making a statement in a public group on the net enforcing > a code based on gender bias owes stantiation through classical > corroboration. i have done extensive research on rudraksha and have > bought and assimilated various puranas and upanishads that narrate > the significance of these rudraksha. > > shivapurana, vidveshwara samhita, 25th chapter, 46th verse thus says: > > "sarvashramanam varnanam STREE shudranam, shivajnaya dharyam sadaiva > rudraksha" > > there are so many other classics which clearly mention that rudraksha > can be worn by any person without any gender bias. > > since the shastras clearly mentioned that any native of any caste and > religion, man or woman, can wear rudrakshas, natives may wear > energised rudraksha and get the benefits. the only condition that is > written is that since lord shiva dwells in these rudraksha and each > rudraksha is attached to certain dieties, they need to be energised > as per the puranas. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > , "Bhaskar" > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear Madam, > > > > I do not think I have seen any girl or lady wearing Rudrakhsa > > till today. So I feel it may not be right for one to wear. > > If You notice in Devi temples too, for ladies another bowl > > of red Vibhuti/Sindoor is kept while for Gents the normal > > ash coloured. This gives us the clue. > > > > It is better not to tattoo symbols of Aum,Hanumanji > > and such other ones, on ones body, cause we are not in > > pure state of existence all the time, during > > daily ablutions, during conjugal state etc. > > and at such time the symbols if touched with impure > > hands ,may loose the efficiacy for which they > > were first put there.So better forget it. > > This goes with Gents as well as ladies. > > > > Ladies may alternatively wear Tulsi Mala.studded in Gold > > or silver. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , GYATHRI PATANJOTHI > > <gyathri1983@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear everyone, > > > > > > There is always suggestions from my folks that girls should not > > wear rudrakshas and aum symbols. > > > It is also said that aum symbols tattoed to the body is not > good > > and may cause harm. > > > Is this true and can a girl tattoo her body with holy symbols > or > > is it prohibited to do so. > > > So does gender reallt matter in this issue? > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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