modern vs eternal

February 13, 2007

I am looking for direction with this post.

I have been studying deeply the science of yoga since

I was a small girl of 12 years.

I am now thirty four.

I have had some formal training in anatomy and

kenisiology/.

My practice of yoga always led me to unity of man with

nature so I started to explore how plants, gems,

sound, color etc were connected to man. I then found

out that there is an ancient science called ayurveda

that is all about the unity of man and nature.

I started studying ayurveda seven years ago and find

it so brilliant and simple. I then started reading a

bit about quantum physics and found that science was

also developing toward ayurveda or the concept of

unity. I was also very intrigued that quantum physics

is largely based on the notion that the universe is in

essence thought rather than matter.

I am now at a stage in my studies of ayurveda where I

want a teacher. I want to go deeper into this

science.

I have not had a teacher present to me as yet so I

thought I would further my studies with western

herbology.

I find that the basis of western herbology is on

diagnosing a disease rather than looking at illness as

an imbalance.

I was wondering.

Do current day vaidyas take this model in healing? Or

do they still look for the imbalance of the elements,

thought, energies?

I have found recently that once a person is diagnosed

with an illness they really start to personify that

illness. but at the same time people seem to want to

be told what illness they have. They want to name the

illness rather than rebalance.

What is the value of diagnosing illness?

I also have the experience right now with a woman who

cam to see me due to ghost like pains appearing here

and there. On examinging her I told her that her

bowel seemed to have polyps but mainly her pains

seemed to be caused by her mind and fears.

She first felt she had a kidney stone. I examined her

and found nothing. She had medical tests that came

back negative as well.

They also notieced a small legion on the bowel and so

then she decided that hse had diverticulitis.

She underwent endoscopy and the polyp I had noticed

was found. No diverticulitis though.

Now she is having chest pain. I still strongly feel

that these symptoms are being caused by anxiety, she

is undergoing a career change and is not confident

that it is right for her. She is vata type.

She is so bent on finding out what is wrong with her

though that she is spending days in the hospital

getting tests that come back negative.

When I observe these types of cases I really

appreciate the ancient wisdom of ayurveda.

I wanted to know to what degree it has been preserved

and what it has adapted.

ANy words of wisdom would be so appreciated.

February 13, 2007

Ayurveda is a vast science indeed. it explains the universal and undying principles of human life covering its total perspective and panorama in its various stages including health and disease. infact Ayurveda envisages the whole universe inside the human body according to Pinda-Brahmanda Nyaya.

understanding disease is necesary to understand the vast concept of health and hence Ayurvedic texts do describe diseases in great details mentioning their causative factors (nidan), prodromal / incipient pre-clinical symptoms (poorva-rupa), main clinical exhibit symptoms (rupa), etiogenesis (samprapti), alleviating factors (upashaya), sadhya-asadhyata (prognosis) and other related facts.

diseases get named by their predominent exhibition of specific symptom-group. a specific set of symptoms occuring together gets a nomenclature and that's how a disease gets named.

as you rightly stated disease is an imbalance in the body. Ayurveda goes in great details to describe this imbalance at the levels of Dosha (Vata-Pitta Kapha), Dhatu, Mala, Oja, Mind and all the related aspects.many times it is possible to categorise such imbalance into a specific disesase, but sometimes this is not possible. this problem is already anticipated in Ayurvedic texts and the clear directive in such a situation is to classify the symptoms according to Dosha basis and treat accordingly.

however if you are a registered medical practitioner , then you may have to assert your diagnosis through modern investigations, even if they are negative, to avoid any futuristic medico-legal hassles that the patient may put you to on the charges of negligence.

there is nothing like modern vs eternal. modern is but the present stage and is a fraction of eternity. only the language of expression changes, the principles remain the same, the structure and function of the body remains the same, isn't it? so why the prejudice?

Dr.Muzumdar (M.D. Ayu-Med)

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mandv m

ayurveda

Tuesday, February 13, 2007 9:38 PM

<ayurveda> modern vs eternal

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I started studying ayurveda seven years ago and find

it so brilliant and simple. I then started reading a

bit about quantum physics and found that science was

also developing toward ayurveda or the concept of

unity. I was also very intrigued that quantum physics

is largely based on the notion that the universe is in

essence thought rather than matter.

<snip>

I have not had a teacher present to me as yet so I

thought I would further my studies with western

herbology.

I find that the basis of western herbology is on

diagnosing a disease rather than looking at illness as

an imbalance.

I was wondering.

Do current day vaidyas take this model in healing? Or

do they still look for the imbalance of the elements,

thought, energies?

<snip>

February 14, 2007

Dear Madam,

It was very nice to know about your interest in Ayurved ! Please ask her whether she supresses her flatus ( Apana Vayu) ? Because if that is the case , then, she might get chest pain ....!!

"Adhovatasya rodhen hridayasyoparodhanam I "

By supressing / holding Apana / adhovata,there exists a manifestation of heaviness / pain in the precordial region / chest pain in general.

You may please visit my website www.ayurvision.com

I am into Yoga & Reiki apart from Ayurveda.

Please feel free to contact me on any of the aspect regarding Ayurveda !

With warm regards,

Prof.Dr.Aashish Phadke,M.D.(Ayurved)(Mumbai)