Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 PANDIT DEV MAHARAJ IS RIGHT! WE SHOULD PROTECT DHARMA, ONLY FOR THE CAUSE OF SAVING MANKIND FROM FURTHER DEGRADATION, FOR THE SAKE OF FUTURE GENERATION, SINCE OUR RISHIS DID THIS FOR US, NOW ITS OUR TURN TO DO SOMETHING FOR FUTURE GENERATION.WHO KNOWS WHO OF US WOULD BE REBORN MAY NEED THIS DHARMA FOR ATTAINING MOKSHA AGAIN. THIS DOESNT MEAN WE SHOULD WAGE A WAR, BUT SHOULD FIGHT AGAINST INJUSTICE. EVEN OUR GREAT RISHIS WHO LIVED IN THE FOREST FOR THE SAKE OF ATTAINING KNOWLEDGE BENEFICIAL TO MANKIND, YES THEY DID CARRY TRISHUL, AXE, BOW-ARROW, SWORDS. THESE WEAPONS HOWEVER DIDNT MEANT FOR KILLING INNOCENT ANIMALS AND HUMANS. BUT FOR THE PURPOSE OF SELF DEFENCE, FOR DEFENCE OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, FOR THE DEFENCE OF DHARMA. WHY DID SHRI PARASHURAMA DESTROYED THE KSHATRIYAS? WHY DID SHRI RAMA DESTROY RAVANA AND THE RAKSHASA? WHY DID SHRI KRISHNA KILL KAMSA? WHY DID SHRI KRISHNA HELPED PANDAVAS IN THEIR WAR AGAINST KAURAVAS? WHY DID GODDESS KALI, LAXMI, SARASWATI APPEAR AND DESTROYED ASURAS? WHY DID LORD SHIVA APPEARED EVERY TIME AND DESTROYED DEMONS AND ESTABLISHED JYOTIRLINGAS? WE SHOULD NOT CLOSE OUR EYES AND SAY GOD WILL PROTECT US. JAI SHANI DEV, OM NAMAH SHIVAYA. SURESH , "ecjensen_us" <ecjensen_us wrote: > > OM NAMAH SIVAYA > > maybe, what in your mind is cowardice/apathy/lack of care seems so > because your are trying to rationalize/intellectualize an ideal that > the Saints/Sages who came before us didn't hold in their minds at all, > but in their hearts. they were brave to the point of being willing to > end this life for the sake of upholding the ideal. this is definitely > beyond logic. Devotion and Love of God is not only beyond logic but > can be destroyed by logic. Love is the language of the heart not mind. > > the Great Ones of any of our worlds Religions/Traditions have taught > spirituality not religion. The Truth is the battle is internal not > external. we should be encouraging people to be assertive in knowing > their own Self. external battles are never won because we can't > control the diversity of Nature, and so we will always have to fight > again. but the sages armed with the power of perception, have taught > the internal battle to know your Self is the only one worth fighting > because when we win that there is no more war. to encourage people to > be assertive in protecting there heritage, culture, family, religion, > etc. in Truth is to be an example of the understanding that all is > One. One God. One Truth. One Love. and there is only One race, Human. > > JAI MA > > , Dev Maharaj > <dev_maharaj@> wrote: > > > > Namaskaar > > > > I see, why don't you give all of your belongs, your job, your land, > your house, your wife and all other belongs to others ? It all belongs > to God and after you pass it will belong to someone else so why do you > have to have these to start with? You have no need of wealth of food > or of anything else too, it all belongs to God what right do you have > to any of these ?. > > > > What right we have to criticise other people's actions/deeds and > stand there accusing them? > > > > My dear learned friend, we should Never go for narrowing our mind > even in thoughts. It only leaves us in unhappy and self-loathing. > Find peace in the lord in urself. Excuse me, if I found to be > offhand/rude. > > > > I wish and pray, the group owner, should be careful about posting > these types of controversies. They give the members nothing but a > sheer anger and thoughtless wandering. > > > > So what ? Lord Shiva from time to time gets a little annoyed, > remember Ananga ? > > You are expressing your (apathy/cowardice/lack of care - I'm not > sure which ? ) > > Remaining focused on God does not mean that you have to allow others > to take > > your possessions or exercise their will and power over you. > > > > I AM ENCOURAGING Hindus to get up and be assertive in protecting their > > Culture, heritage, Family and possessions as these are all under > attack and > > will be taken away by others if they are not careful. Religion has > to be practical, > > in case you haven't noticed - these days when people go begging for > alms in > > most cases they are turned away ! > > > > Namah Sivaya > > Best Regards > > Pandit Devindra Maharaj > > > > sumi balu <mymy062004@> wrote: > > Sarvam Sivam, > > > > Dear friend subramani, > > > > Don't be so very angry and loose ur temper. Nothing we, the holy > blessed devotees of our father could loose. A small piece of land > never holds the un measurable holyness. > > > > HE, the lord of lords is within all of us, all beings and things > in this world are his abode. What right we have to criticise other > people's actions/deeds and stand there accusing them? > > > > My dear learned friend, we should Never go for narrowing our mind > even in thoughts. It only leaves us in unhappy and self-loathing. > Find peace in the lord in urself. Excuse me, if I found to be > offhand/rude. > > > > I wish and pray, the group owner, should be careful about posting > these types of controversies. They give the members nothing but a > sheer anger and thoughtless wandering. > > > > Sivaya namaha, > > > > Punith Balu > > > > "P. Subramani" <subramani6912@> wrote: > > > > Definitely, we Indians must seize the holiest place from the > Chinese. That stupid and fool Nehru didn't help Tibet when required > and so the Chinese occupied. another thing is that the Indian govt > doesn't give subsidies to the Hindus to visit Mount Kailash, our > holiest place, whereas, because of the vote bank politics, Muslims > are given 80 percent subsidy to perform the useless and futile Haj > Yatra even the economically well-off Muslims do get the benefit. Some > of our group members are so unattached to our religion, that they > simply watch the happenings of destruction on Hindus and just keep > silent. No god will ever come and save us. We have to save ourselves. > Dharmo Rakshathey, Rakshita sorry for the spelling errors. It was said > that Jesus had come to india and made penance. Which books/texts > speaks about this fact? I have heard that Jesus was in india for ten > years and he was a follower of Buddha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > > > > > > > > > > > > The fish are biting. > > Get more visitors on your site using Search Marketing. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 I personally think we are getting agitated for things beyond our control.May be it is ONLY THE FEW TRULY DEVOTED who get to go to Mount Kailas.May be if Mount Kailas was in Mumbai/Delhi etc,I wonder how many would havereally cared to pay pilgrimage.we have so many revered shrines all over in this PUNYABHOOMI of ours.How well are they being maintained?How many of us care to develop them ?How many of us contribute our time/energy/money to popularise them ?. ----- Fight back spam! Download the Blue Frog. http://www.bluesecurity.com/register/s?user=ZHJwcmtwcmFzYWQzMTIz Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Like someone said, first deserve then desire, Somewhere in the book law of karma, i had read, that never ask for divine justice, or you might have to pay for it through your nose, they say we have so many pending sanchit karma's left...that even if we do get liberated....it can be disastrous............Let god decide for you what is right for you and what is wrong.............in fact god knows best......... They say.....god has an arrangement for almost everyone............ In fact we all do get there....but some reach very very late and some reach early.......as the will of god........ regards, kanishk P.R.K. Prasad wrote: > > I personally think we are getting agitated for things beyond our > control.May be it is ONLY THE FEW TRULY DEVOTED who get to go to Mount > Kailas.May be if Mount Kailas was in Mumbai/Delhi etc,I wonder how > many would havereally cared to pay pilgrimage.we have so many revered > shrines all over in this PUNYABHOOMI of ours.How well are they being > maintained?How many of us care to develop them ?How many of us > contribute our time/energy/money to popularise them ?. > > ----- > Fight back spam! Download the Blue Frog. > http://www.bluesecurity.com/register/s?user=ZHJwcmtwcmFzYWQzMTIz > > ------ > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers > <http://answers./;_ylc=X3oDMTFvbGNhMGE3BF9TAzM5NjU0NTEwOARfcwMzOTY1NDUxMDMEc2VjA21haWxfdGFnbGluZQRzbGsDbWFpbF90YWcx>. > Try it now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Dear friend prasad, Your explanation on Mount Kailasha is truly practical. " A BIRD IN HAND IS WORTH TWO IN THE BUSH" Its is better we should care for the temples and sites we have with us, in India, rather than cry over that which we have lost due to ignorance. We should take a lesson for :"Mount Kailash" as to how we should take care of our heritage so that the same doesnt repeat with rest of our Pilgrimage sites. jai shanidev,om namah shivaya!! warm regards, suresh. , "P.R.K. Prasad" <aarkepee wrote: > > I personally think we are getting agitated for things beyond our control.May be it is ONLY THE FEW TRULY DEVOTED who get to go to Mount Kailas.May be if Mount Kailas was in Mumbai/Delhi etc,I wonder how many would havereally cared to pay pilgrimage.we have so many revered shrines all over in this PUNYABHOOMI of ours.How well are they being maintained?How many of us care to develop them ?How many of us contribute our time/energy/money to popularise them ?. > > ----- > Fight back spam! Download the Blue Frog. > http://www.bluesecurity.com/register/s?user=ZHJwcmtwcmFzYWQzMTIz > > > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 my observations : we have a very old temple/s Tanjore Siva temple Bradesswara (built by raja raja chola - king ,which did not have abishek everyday. need plenty of water and I have seen many temples in hundreds in tanjore , Kumbakonams in and around in TN where hundreds of shivalingas did not have daily abishek . Siva Lingas means abishek is a must. He gets cooled only with simple abishek. Like human with out water is impossible. I feel very bad ,angry and sad .when many deities did not have proper daily ritulas every day (except few)which are ages (yugas old ) which were maintanined by Rajas in old days . who is responsible can individuls/family take care for one per God ? and that is why this society is suffering for drinking water. But we say ,we are developing in INDIA .in what ..................................? forgetting old ritulas and culture ...............beacuse it did not give money results immedietly for this generations............... atj suresh <suresh_haleangadi (AT) (DOT) co.in> Thursday, February 15, 2007 11:37:50 AM Re: Mount Kailash. -Pandit Devindra Maharaj-is right!!! Dear friend prasad, Your explanation on Mount Kailasha is truly practical. " A BIRD IN HAND IS WORTH TWO IN THE BUSH" Its is better we should care for the temples and sites we have with us, in India, rather than cry over that which we have lost due to ignorance. We should take a lesson for :"Mount Kailash" as to how we should take care of our heritage so that the same doesnt repeat with rest of our Pilgrimage sites. jai shanidev,om namah shivaya!! warm regards, suresh. om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, "P.R.K. Prasad" <aarkepee@.. .> wrote: > > I personally think we are getting agitated for things beyond our control.May be it is ONLY THE FEW TRULY DEVOTED who get to go to Mount Kailas.May be if Mount Kailas was in Mumbai/Delhi etc,I wonder how many would havereally cared to pay pilgrimage.we have so many revered shrines all over in this PUNYABHOOMI of ours.How well are they being maintained?How many of us care to develop them ?How many of us contribute our time/energy/ money to popularise them ?. > > ----- > Fight back spam! Download the Blue Frog. > http://www.bluesecu rity.com/ register/ s?user=ZHJwcmtwc mFzYWQzMTIz > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it now. > Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Autos' Green Center. http://autos./green_center/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 On that subject, I came across a posting in another group about an organization called R.E.A.C.H Foundation. This organization is made up of volunteers and they do exactly what you are concenred about, clean/renovate old temples and bring them back to daily use. I have contacted them last week about making contributions. They seem to be very nice people. I git responses to my email queries immediately unlike some other organizations who put up their websites and do not even bother to update them for years....and never reply when emailed. I am including their contact information below. Let us as a group contribute whatever we can to such organizations. We all seem to be concerned about how things are moving as far as our ancient heritae is concerned. I brought a similar subject earlier about suporting as a group, schools or pathshalas that teach Vedas, but did not find much support. REACH Foundation 26/43, Janakiraman Street, West Mambalam, Chennai 600 033. India Tel: call on 91-9444441181 or 91-9840762326 email: reach.foundation.india <vediculture/post?postID=1rrUtANIKaWSyiAL3\ amGFVcXaCCvuwxloWlxczAEAvaIfoXyAhOWr-JcLNMizOsgzsme8ez-DBPxTw5v03uzpV3q5\ sTeoeUdHjlFrhI> or Please Visit http://templesrevival.blogspot.com <http://templesrevival.blogspot.com/> and http://reachhistory.blogspot.com <http://reachhistory.blogspot.com/> for the latest updates on our activity. Bhupendra. , Arakampakkam Thiaagrajan jagadeesan <atjags wrote: > > my observations : > we have a very old temple/s Tanjore Siva temple Bradesswara (built by raja raja chola - king ,which did not have abishek everyday. > need plenty of water and I have seen many temples in hundreds in tanjore , Kumbakonams in and around in TN where hundreds of shivalingas did not have daily abishek . > Siva Lingas means abishek is a must. He gets cooled only with simple abishek. > Like human with out water is impossible. > I feel very bad ,angry and sad .when many deities did not have proper daily ritulas every day (except few)which are ages (yugas old ) which were maintanined by Rajas in old days . > who is responsible can individuls/family take care for one per God ? > and that is why this society is suffering for drinking water. > But we say ,we are developing in INDIA .in what ..................................? forgetting old ritulas and culture ................beacuse it did not give money results immedietly for this generations............... > > atj > > > > suresh suresh_haleangadi > > Thursday, February 15, 2007 11:37:50 AM > Re: Mount Kailash. -Pandit Devindra Maharaj-is right!!! > > Dear friend prasad, > > Your explanation on Mount Kailasha is truly practical. > " A BIRD IN HAND IS WORTH TWO IN THE BUSH" > Its is better we should care for the temples and sites we have > with us, in India, rather than cry over that which we have lost > due to ignorance. We should take a lesson for :"Mount Kailash" > as to how we should take care of our heritage so that the same doesnt > repeat with rest of our Pilgrimage sites. > > jai shanidev,om namah shivaya!! > warm regards, > suresh. > > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, "P.R.K. Prasad" > aarkepee@ .> wrote: > > > > I personally think we are getting agitated for things beyond our > control.May be it is ONLY THE FEW TRULY DEVOTED who get to go to > Mount Kailas.May be if Mount Kailas was in Mumbai/Delhi etc,I wonder > how many would havereally cared to pay pilgrimage.we have so many > revered shrines all over in this PUNYABHOOMI of ours.How well are > they being maintained?How many of us care to develop them ?How many > of us contribute our time/energy/ money to popularise them ?. > > > > ----- > > Fight back spam! Download the Blue Frog. > > http://www.bluesecu rity.com/ register/ s?user=ZHJwcmtwc mFzYWQzMTIz > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it > now. > > > > > > > > > ______________________\ ____________ > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Autos' Green Center. > http://autos./green_center/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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