How can i say that i am reaping for my past Karma?

[Guest guest]

Om Namah Shivaya,

 

Suppose I was a tree in my previous Birth,Here i may not have done any

bad karma and now i got an opportunity to be born as a Human being.

 

In this case, I may reap some unexpected good and sometimes

unexpected bad rewards eg. winning of a lottery or myself being hit

by someone for no fault of mine.

 

for a situation like this our scriptures say

 

"ITS YOUR REWARD OF KARMA OF YOUR PREVIOUS BIRTH"

 

but my question is, if i was a tree, how can i harm or do bad to

anyone in the first place ?

so naturally i should always be rewarded good ?

 

regards,

suresh.

[Guest guest]

Hari Om! Hari Om Tat Sat!

 

my-self- bows to the Lord Sarveshwara in your-self

 

Prabhu, there is one verse called NJANAPANA in malayalam which Shri Punthanam wrote. The verse talks about the birth, rebirth etc. If I remember correctly it says "Ammaranmar Marangal Aaiyudunu" meaning jivas who ended up as Amaran become tree in their next birth.

 

As a tree your jiva would have provided shade to countless jivas, given firewood to jivas, etc. Only Shri Sarveshwara knows what bad a tree can do, it might have killed countless small plants born due to lack of sunlight etc.

 

Even doing nothing is an action or karma. Think about the Lord Shri Sarveshwara all the time, then the jiva does not care about karmas, nor the rewards...all these karmams, the rewards are for only for a period of time. Attaining the prema-bhakthi towards Para Brahman makes your-self attain the supreme peaceful state.

 

SubhamAstu!

Sarvam Sri Krishna ArpanamAstu!

 

suresh <suresh_haleangadi (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Om Namah Shivaya,

 

Suppose I was a tree in my previous Birth,Here i may not have done any

bad karma and now i got an opportunity to be born as a Human being.

 

In this case, I may reap some unexpected good and sometimes

unexpected bad rewards eg. winning of a lottery or myself being hit

by someone for no fault of mine.

 

for a situation like this our scriptures say

 

"ITS YOUR REWARD OF KARMA OF YOUR PREVIOUS BIRTH"

 

but my question is, if i was a tree, how can i harm or do bad to

anyone in the first place ?

so naturally i should always be rewarded good ?

 

regards,

suresh.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the answer, but again i would say that-

 

what if i was never born before?

This birth itself is my first birth, then???

Then how would you explain it..

How can anyone say that it was my past karma?

 

regards,

suresh.

 

 

 

, Pradeep Balakrishnan

<balakrishnanpradeep wrote:

>

> Hari Om! Hari Om Tat Sat!

>

> my-self- bows to the Lord Sarveshwara in your-self

>

> Prabhu, there is one verse called NJANAPANA in malayalam which Shri

Punthanam wrote. The verse talks about the birth, rebirth etc. If I

remember correctly it says "Ammaranmar Marangal Aaiyudunu" meaning

jivas who ended up as Amaran become tree in their next birth.

>

> As a tree your jiva would have provided shade to countless jivas,

given firewood to jivas, etc. Only Shri Sarveshwara knows what bad a

tree can do, it might have killed countless small plants born due to

lack of sunlight etc.

>

> Even doing nothing is an action or karma. Think about the Lord Shri

Sarveshwara all the time, then the jiva does not care about karmas,

nor the rewards...all these karmams, the rewards are for only for a

period of time. Attaining the prema-bhakthi towards Para Brahman

makes your-self attain the supreme peaceful state.

>

> SubhamAstu!

> Sarvam Sri Krishna ArpanamAstu!

>

> suresh <suresh_haleangadi

wrote: Om Namah Shivaya,

>

> Suppose I was a tree in my previous Birth,Here i may not have done

any

> bad karma and now i got an opportunity to be born as a Human being.

>

> In this case, I may reap some unexpected good and sometimes

> unexpected bad rewards eg. winning of a lottery or myself being

hit

> by someone for no fault of mine.

>

> for a situation like this our scriptures say

>

> "ITS YOUR REWARD OF KARMA OF YOUR PREVIOUS BIRTH"

>

> but my question is, if i was a tree, how can i harm or do bad to

> anyone in the first place ?

> so naturally i should always be rewarded good ?

>

> regards,

> suresh.

>

[Guest guest]

Om NamaH Shivaya.

 

Dear Suresh,

 

Hypothetically, if you were to be a tree, then you were reaping

(rather than producing karma) the results of previous lives. In that

avastha, you do not produce any karmic reactions. But practically,

each of us had lived several hundreds of lifetimes before, and not all

of them are passive states like tree, minerals, etc.

 

Hari OM.

rv

, "suresh"

<suresh_haleangadi wrote:

>

> Om Namah Shivaya,

>

> Suppose I was a tree in my previous Birth,Here i may not have done any

> bad karma and now i got an opportunity to be born as a Human being.

>

> In this case, I may reap some unexpected good and sometimes

> unexpected bad rewards eg. winning of a lottery or myself being hit

> by someone for no fault of mine.

>

> for a situation like this our scriptures say

>

> "ITS YOUR REWARD OF KARMA OF YOUR PREVIOUS BIRTH"

>

> but my question is, if i was a tree, how can i harm or do bad to

> anyone in the first place ?

> so naturally i should always be rewarded good ?

>

> regards,

> suresh.

>

[Guest guest]

Just one question, In the incarnation of a tree....does one feel pain if

someone breaks a leaf....or cuts a branch of that tree...??

Is there a sensation of pain and pleasure??

 

regards,

kanishk

 

Pradeep Balakrishnan wrote:

>

> Hari Om! Hari Om Tat Sat!

>

> my-self- bows to the Lord Sarveshwara in your-self

>

> Prabhu, there is one verse called NJANAPANA in malayalam which Shri

> Punthanam wrote. The verse talks about the birth, rebirth etc. If I

> remember correctly it says "Ammaranmar Marangal Aaiyudunu" meaning

> jivas who ended up as Amaran become tree in their next birth.

>

> As a tree your jiva would have provided shade to countless jivas,

> given firewood to jivas, etc. Only Shri Sarveshwara knows what bad a

> tree can do, it might have killed countless small plants born due to

> lack of sunlight etc.

>

> Even doing nothing is an action or karma. Think about the Lord Shri

> Sarveshwara all the time, then the jiva does not care about karmas,

> nor the rewards...all these karmams, the rewards are for only for a

> period of time. Attaining the prema-bhakthi towards Para Brahman makes

> your-self attain the supreme peaceful state.

>

> SubhamAstu!

> Sarvam Sri Krishna ArpanamAstu!

>

> */suresh <suresh_haleangadi (AT) (DOT) co.in>/* wrote:

>

> Om Namah Shivaya,

>

> Suppose I was a tree in my previous Birth,Here i may not have done any

> bad karma and now i got an opportunity to be born as a Human being.

>

> In this case, I may reap some unexpected good and sometimes

> unexpected bad rewards eg. winning of a lottery or myself being hit

> by someone for no fault of mine.

>

> for a situation like this our scriptures say

>

> "ITS YOUR REWARD OF KARMA OF YOUR PREVIOUS BIRTH"

>

> but my question is, if i was a tree, how can i harm or do bad to

> anyone in the first place ?

> so naturally i should always be rewarded good ?

>

> regards,

> suresh.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hari Om

 

First of all for a thought like this to come to one's mind, itself, may be the part of the fructification that is going on and on. I am only a kg student and i venture to express my IGNORANCE so that other educated ones will prove how i am wrong which is an education to improve my (mis)understanding.

 

When ever we talk of Karma, invariably we need to associate it with Dharma - SANATANA DHARMA.

 

something like theory and application - Dharma and Karma.

 

Dharma: in simple terms it is common sense. No one likes to get hurt, and when ever we need to perform an action, all that we need to do is to cross check if we would have liked the result of that action if we were the ones who were to be taffected by.

 

We need to remeber, when we think of Dharma, there is swa dharma, social dharma ...DHARMA FOR EVERY ROLE WE PALY. this means we also need to know that we are all playing a role only and the role goes on changing every moment...even fraction of moment. We need to understand - what is the Dharma for that role at that point.

 

This calls for enquiry into ' who am I ? "...if we start understanding who am I, then the answer to that makes our life indeed very beautiful, most enjoyable, stress free etc.

 

Understanding of theory or Law of Karma helps us also in living our life in an intelligent way.

 

Every moment of our life, we are acting- performing one or other action. And to perform an action our FREE WILL need to be used. Using our FREE WILL means we are responsible for our actions. Any action performed is performed by our conscious decision to perform and so I am responsible for that. There is no question of some one forced me to perform- since even if some one forced, i still had the option to ignore the force and take my own decision to not perform etc. In such a case, may be we may think that we had no option since if we do not perform, may be i will loose my job, may be the other would have used violence on me etc. In such a case, I weigh the pros and cones of the situation and then i think- repeat it is I who think and decide - that by performing the action, the result that i get even if not likable by me, at this point i prefer that result than the other result which i will have to have - by not performing.

 

Probably this understanding help us in more clarity in our thinking since here we see the meaning or meaningless -ness of the words reward and punishment. In real terms there is no reward or punishment since when one performs an action with conscious decision - and conscious decision means a proper analysis- really like a management decision making process . When a decision is taken thru such process, the result is not a reward or punishment, but just a result.

 

We also need to know at this point that our FREE WILL gives us a choice only to perform an action in a way we like - means perform / not perform / perform with a delay etc... Once we have used our FREE WILL and performed the action - this is like locking of choice in a question in computer as we used to see in kaun Banega Karod Pati. Once the choice is locked, then we have to wait for the result, which is not in our control.

 

We also come to know that results for any action can be one of the four

 

a) same as we expected

b) less than we expected

c) more than we exptected

d) totally unexpected.

 

if we look at any result most likely the result will be belonging to one of the above.

 

Here it might be good to understand that often we relate the result immediately with the action we perform. Here a little different understanding could be of some self help in sense that it works like a cushion.

 

When we see the result is not as expected, we often wonder what went wrong or what happened? We then analyze and often become wiser by identifying what went wrong and very often think that next time we will take care of that also. But very often - also - next time again something goes wrong and again we perform the same exercise to notice later that this time something else was the reason for getting a different result. THIS IS WHERE WE NEED TO RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT as human being we have limitations and when we understand this, we are consciously ready for the result.

 

When we are ready for a result, be it this way or that way, since we know that there is every possibility that the result may not be to my liking, since we know that possibility, our mind gets ready for that and that itself helps in providing the required strength and reducing the tension.

 

Then often a question is asked, why some one gets a lottery in spite of his/her doing so many many bad actions...? Only Law of karma - at least it seems so- gives some non verifiable explanation for this. May be that is the fructification of some result of some Karma which could have been performed long long back.

 

There is a lot to understand on Law of Karma and it will be very interesting for people who have studied this topic comes out with their understanding so that it helps us all in bettering our understanding and thus bettering our living THIS VERY LIFE.

 

namaskaram

 

 

 

 

suresh <suresh_haleangadi (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Om Namah Shivaya,

 

Suppose I was a tree in my previous Birth,Here i may not have done any

bad karma and now i got an opportunity to be born as a Human being.

 

In this case, I may reap some unexpected good and sometimes

unexpected bad rewards eg. winning of a lottery or myself being hit

by someone for no fault of mine.

 

for a situation like this our scriptures say

 

"ITS YOUR REWARD OF KARMA OF YOUR PREVIOUS BIRTH"

 

but my question is, if i was a tree, how can i harm or do bad to

anyone in the first place ?

so naturally i should always be rewarded good ?

 

regards,

suresh.

 

 

 

 

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Hari Om! Hari Om Tat Sat!

 

Prabhu, my-self does not know the answer but feels that since the tree is a living thing in maya should exhibit the pain.

 

SubhamAstu!

Sarvam Sri Krishna ArpanamAstu!

 

kanishk <kc3377 > wrote: Just one question, In the incarnation of a tree....does one feel pain if someone breaks a leaf....or cuts a branch of that tree...??

Is there a sensation of pain and pleasure??

 

regards,

kanishk

 

Pradeep Balakrishnan wrote:

Hari Om! Hari Om Tat Sat!

my-self- bows to the Lord Sarveshwara in your-self

Prabhu, there is one verse called NJANAPANA in malayalam which Shri Punthanam wrote. The verse talks about the birth, rebirth etc. If I remember correctly it says "Ammaranmar Marangal Aaiyudunu" meaning jivas who ended up as Amaran become tree in their next birth.

As a tree your jiva would have provided shade to countless jivas, given firewood to jivas, etc. Only Shri Sarveshwara knows what bad a tree can do, it might have killed countless small plants born due to lack of sunlight etc.

Even doing nothing is an action or karma. Think about the Lord Shri Sarveshwara all the time, then the jiva does not care about karmas, nor the rewards...all these karmams, the rewards are for only for a period of time. Attaining the prema-bhakthi towards Para Brahman makes your-self attain the supreme peaceful state.

SubhamAstu!

Sarvam Sri Krishna ArpanamAstu!

suresh <suresh_haleangadi (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Om Namah Shivaya,

Suppose I was a tree in my previous Birth,Here i may not have done any

bad karma and now i got an opportunity to be born as a Human being.

In this case, I may reap some unexpected good and sometimes

unexpected bad rewards eg. winning of a lottery or myself being hit

by someone for no fault of mine.

for a situation like this our scriptures say

"ITS YOUR REWARD OF KARMA OF YOUR PREVIOUS BIRTH"

but my question is, if i was a tree, how can i harm or do bad to

anyone in the first place ?

so naturally i should always be rewarded good ?

regards,

suresh.

[Guest guest]

Hari Om! Hari Om Tat Sat!

 

Prabhu, how does your-self know you were never born? Your-self exists because HE exists. My -self- is not an elevated soul to answer this question, but all my-self- knows all of HIS self exist in this Mrithyu Bhoomi because of a reason. The reason is the one that SELF tries to find out.

 

Subham DinamAstu!

Sarvam Sri Krishna ArpanamAstu!

 

suresh <suresh_haleangadi (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Thanks for the answer, but again i would say that-

 

what if i was never born before?

This birth itself is my first birth, then???

Then how would you explain it..

How can anyone say that it was my past karma?

 

regards,

suresh.

 

, Pradeep Balakrishnan

<balakrishnanpradeep wrote:

>

> Hari Om! Hari Om Tat Sat!

>

> my-self- bows to the Lord Sarveshwara in your-self

>

> Prabhu, there is one verse called NJANAPANA in malayalam which Shri

Punthanam wrote. The verse talks about the birth, rebirth etc. If I

remember correctly it says "Ammaranmar Marangal Aaiyudunu" meaning

jivas who ended up as Amaran become tree in their next birth.

>

> As a tree your jiva would have provided shade to countless jivas,

given firewood to jivas, etc. Only Shri Sarveshwara knows what bad a

tree can do, it might have killed countless small plants born due to

lack of sunlight etc.

>

> Even doing nothing is an action or karma. Think about the Lord Shri

Sarveshwara all the time, then the jiva does not care about karmas,

nor the rewards...all these karmams, the rewards are for only for a

period of time. Attaining the prema-bhakthi towards Para Brahman

makes your-self attain the supreme peaceful state.

>

> SubhamAstu!

> Sarvam Sri Krishna ArpanamAstu!

>

> suresh <suresh_haleangadi

wrote: Om Namah Shivaya,

>

> Suppose I was a tree in my previous Birth,Here i may not have done

any

> bad karma and now i got an opportunity to be born as a Human being.

>

> In this case, I may reap some unexpected good and sometimes

> unexpected bad rewards eg. winning of a lottery or myself being

hit

> by someone for no fault of mine.

>

> for a situation like this our scriptures say

>

> "ITS YOUR REWARD OF KARMA OF YOUR PREVIOUS BIRTH"

>

> but my question is, if i was a tree, how can i harm or do bad to

> anyone in the first place ?

> so naturally i should always be rewarded good ?

>

> regards,

> suresh.

>

[Guest guest]

Namaskaar Kanishk

 

Yes there is both, albeit different from our concept of pain and pleasure. It has been scientifically shown that when you break a part of a plant that the plant expresses erratic electrical impulses, it has also been shown that when you speak to plants lovingly they tend to grow healthier. Every single thing on the planet has a consciousness (as it is all part of the one ) the vehicles for its expression is different and because we cannot readily discern what these are we tend to assume that it does not exist.

 

kanishk <kc3377 > wrote: Just one question, In the incarnation of a tree....does one feel pain if someone breaks a leaf....or cuts a branch of that tree...??

Is there a sensation of pain and pleasure??

 

regards,

kanishk

 

Pradeep Balakrishnan wrote:

Hari Om! Hari Om Tat Sat!

my-self- bows to the Lord Sarveshwara in your-self

Prabhu, there is one verse called NJANAPANA in malayalam which Shri Punthanam wrote. The verse talks about the birth, rebirth etc. If I remember correctly it says "Ammaranmar Marangal Aaiyudunu" meaning jivas who ended up as Amaran become tree in their next birth.

As a tree your jiva would have provided shade to countless jivas, given firewood to jivas, etc. Only Shri Sarveshwara knows what bad a tree can do, it might have killed countless small plants born due to lack of sunlight etc.

Even doing nothing is an action or karma. Think about the Lord Shri Sarveshwara all the time, then the jiva does not care about karmas, nor the rewards...all these karmams, the rewards are for only for a period of time. Attaining the prema-bhakthi towards Para Brahman makes your-self attain the supreme peaceful state.

SubhamAstu!

Sarvam Sri Krishna ArpanamAstu!

suresh <suresh_haleangadi (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Om Namah Shivaya,

Suppose I was a tree in my previous Birth,Here i may not have done any

bad karma and now i got an opportunity to be born as a Human being.

In this case, I may reap some unexpected good and sometimes

unexpected bad rewards eg. winning of a lottery or myself being hit

by someone for no fault of mine.

for a situation like this our scriptures say

"ITS YOUR REWARD OF KARMA OF YOUR PREVIOUS BIRTH"

but my question is, if i was a tree, how can i harm or do bad to

anyone in the first place ?

so naturally i should always be rewarded good ?

regards,

suresh.

 

 

 

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