newly born CHILD auspicious OR inauspicous and new-bride/bridegroom

[Guest guest]

Hi all

 

Please answer my two doubts :

 

1> When a child is born ,it is believed that newly

born baby might be harmful/bad/good for some of the

relationships (like bad/harmful for paternal side OR

for maternal side). Can someone tell me how do we

analyse whether it in chart of newly born baby? Also

when does the effects starts showing on others family

members? for eg -> Child born in MOOLA nakshatra are

said to bring bad-luck to father/mother. My question

is BAD/GOOD-luck limited to parents OR it flows to

Grandparents (maternal and paternal both) and other

relations. How is that analysed from chart ?

 

2> Also when male gets married, the female coming to

in-laws house will have the same effect as newly born

baby (horroscope wise can she put some harmful/bad/

good effects on family members) ? Is the same true for

male ? Can some one give some pointers on the same.

 

 

thanks

angel

 

 

 

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Hi Angel,

 

If You read the results of people born under various Nakshatras

specially the harmful one,

like Moola(I am personally Moola born),Aslesha (My daughter is aslesa

born),etsetra, under various padas, the evil effects are given

specifically there. But one cant blame the native for being born

under so and so pada of the Nakshatras, because they have no ontrol

apparently over their births in this present birth after taking a new

body. The relatives to whom the bad effects are ascribed , if we

check their charts, they would also have some

resemblance to the bad times oncoming in their lives when the

fructification of these

evil effects have to take place. The child born is just an instrument

in bringing forth the evil effects over which no one has any control,

because the paap karmas have already been committed by the child born

and the relative towards whom the effects have been ascribed, in the

past, and when the child is born, the results are remaining balance

to be borne by the seperate entities related to the child either when

he/she is born, or when he grows up or when he/she gets married.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, angel <angelgoel wrote:

>

> Hi all

>

> Please answer my two doubts :

>

> 1> When a child is born ,it is believed that newly

> born baby might be harmful/bad/good for some of the

> relationships (like bad/harmful for paternal side OR

> for maternal side). Can someone tell me how do we

> analyse whether it in chart of newly born baby? Also

> when does the effects starts showing on others family

> members? for eg -> Child born in MOOLA nakshatra are

> said to bring bad-luck to father/mother. My question

> is BAD/GOOD-luck limited to parents OR it flows to

> Grandparents (maternal and paternal both) and other

> relations. How is that analysed from chart ?

>

> 2> Also when male gets married, the female coming to

> in-laws house will have the same effect as newly born

> baby (horroscope wise can she put some harmful/bad/

> good effects on family members) ? Is the same true for

> male ? Can some one give some pointers on the same.

>

>

> thanks

> angel

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

The analysis part-

 

You have already provided the answer.

Its all mentioned in the books, who are the ones to

be affected and in what sphere whether wealth, or

longevity or else.

 

The Moon is the pivot for analysis and the Nakshatra Lord

and its degrees the pointers. The books wherein the results

are mentioned, are our Teachers and guides.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, angel <angelgoel wrote:

>

> Hi all

>

> Please answer my two doubts :

>

> 1> When a child is born ,it is believed that newly

> born baby might be harmful/bad/good for some of the

> relationships (like bad/harmful for paternal side OR

> for maternal side). Can someone tell me how do we

> analyse whether it in chart of newly born baby? Also

> when does the effects starts showing on others family

> members? for eg -> Child born in MOOLA nakshatra are

> said to bring bad-luck to father/mother. My question

> is BAD/GOOD-luck limited to parents OR it flows to

> Grandparents (maternal and paternal both) and other

> relations. How is that analysed from chart ?

>

> 2> Also when male gets married, the female coming to

> in-laws house will have the same effect as newly born

> baby (horroscope wise can she put some harmful/bad/

> good effects on family members) ? Is the same true for

> male ? Can some one give some pointers on the same.

>

>

> thanks

> angel

>

>

>

>

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Hi Bhaskar ji

 

Thanks for reply.

 

 

--- Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

 

> The analysis part-

>

> You have already provided the answer.

> Its all mentioned in the books, who are the ones to

> be affected and in what sphere whether wealth, or

> longevity or else.

>

> The Moon is the pivot for analysis and the Nakshatra

> Lord

> and its degrees the pointers. The books wherein the

> results

> are mentioned, are our Teachers and guides.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

>

> , angel

> <angelgoel wrote:

> >

> > Hi all

> >

> > Please answer my two doubts :

> >

> > 1> When a child is born ,it is believed that newly

> > born baby might be harmful/bad/good for some of

> the

> > relationships (like bad/harmful for paternal side

> OR

> > for maternal side). Can someone tell me how do we

> > analyse whether it in chart of newly born baby?

> Also

> > when does the effects starts showing on others

> family

> > members? for eg -> Child born in MOOLA nakshatra

> are

> > said to bring bad-luck to father/mother. My

> question

> > is BAD/GOOD-luck limited to parents OR it flows to

> > Grandparents (maternal and paternal both) and

> other

> > relations. How is that analysed from chart ?

> >

> > 2> Also when male gets married, the female coming

> to

> > in-laws house will have the same effect as newly

> born

> > baby (horroscope wise can she put some

> harmful/bad/

> > good effects on family members) ? Is the same true

> for

> > male ? Can some one give some pointers on the

> same.

> >

> >

> > thanks

> > angel

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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> DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

dear friend

 

the shastras did mention various doshams and gandams when a child is

born. these things mention that a particular relative of the child

may die if the child is born in this or that star. similarly the

father of the child is prohibited from seeing his child for so many

months or years based on the birthstar of the child, the worst being

8 years ban on the father to see his child born in moola. once a

customer asked me why such prohibition is imposed only on father and

not mother and the answer is self explantory. similarly when gandam

to inlaws is written, the child is spared till he or she gets married

and then attribute this suspicion on the newly wed groom or bride.

 

albeit all these things are written in shastras, these are simply

irrational, illogical and practically makes no sense in the present

civilised modern age.

 

if one reproduce exactly how a woman has to live and behave, as

written in the puranas, it is against the government laws. our

constitution has been amended umpteen number of times but the RULES

AND CODES OF LIVING mentioned in the puranas have not been ameneded

as they have been left to the prudence of the native who reads them.

 

hence my advise to all fraternity is not to impose these janma

gandams, doshams, balarishtams etc. on the newly born godlike

children. instead advise the parents to treat their children with

love and not suspect them of bringing death to this or that relative.

 

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

www.rudraksharemedy.com

 

 

, angel <angelgoel wrote:

>

> Hi all

>

> Please answer my two doubts :

>

> 1> When a child is born ,it is believed that newly

> born baby might be harmful/bad/good for some of the

> relationships (like bad/harmful for paternal side OR

> for maternal side). Can someone tell me how do we

> analyse whether it in chart of newly born baby? Also

> when does the effects starts showing on others family

> members? for eg -> Child born in MOOLA nakshatra are

> said to bring bad-luck to father/mother. My question

> is BAD/GOOD-luck limited to parents OR it flows to

> Grandparents (maternal and paternal both) and other

> relations. How is that analysed from chart ?

>

> 2> Also when male gets married, the female coming to

> in-laws house will have the same effect as newly born

> baby (horroscope wise can she put some harmful/bad/

> good effects on family members) ? Is the same true for

> male ? Can some one give some pointers on the same.

>

>

> thanks

> angel

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Panditji,

 

Hardly knowledgeable in Sastras and religious scriptures in general --

I think astrologers take two views and perspectives when it comes to

reality! One set looks at individuals and then arranges the rest of

creation around the individual. The other set looks at the creation

and tries to find the place in it for the individual.

 

The first set put too much power on the individual and hence also the

responsibility! These look at the child and even without saying so,

somehow truly believe that the presence of the child or its arrival

caused the loss, death, destruction, bad luck whatever.

 

The other set looks at the individual's chart and marvels at how dove-

tailed many karmas are that fit due to a rinanubandhan or whatever

reason and create the reality, in which some bad things are indicated

in charts, but the results were already written in the fate of the

sufferer! They remember that the charts are not for the individual

born but the moment!

 

If I may use a weird analogy -- The bad movie was going to be played

at 6:30 PM anyway. Someone saw it only because he bought the ticket

for that show! Should he blame the ticket for his bad experience?

 

RR

 

, "panditarjun2004"

<panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> dear friend

>

> the shastras did mention various doshams and gandams when a child

is

> born. these things mention that a particular relative of the child

> may die if the child is born in this or that star. similarly the

> father of the child is prohibited from seeing his child for so many

> months or years based on the birthstar of the child, the worst

being

> 8 years ban on the father to see his child born in moola. once a

> customer asked me why such prohibition is imposed only on father

and

> not mother and the answer is self explantory. similarly when

gandam

> to inlaws is written, the child is spared till he or she gets

married

> and then attribute this suspicion on the newly wed groom or bride.

>

> albeit all these things are written in shastras, these are simply

> irrational, illogical and practically makes no sense in the present

> civilised modern age.

>

> if one reproduce exactly how a woman has to live and behave, as

> written in the puranas, it is against the government laws. our

> constitution has been amended umpteen number of times but the RULES

> AND CODES OF LIVING mentioned in the puranas have not been ameneded

> as they have been left to the prudence of the native who reads them.

>

> hence my advise to all fraternity is not to impose these janma

> gandams, doshams, balarishtams etc. on the newly born godlike

> children. instead advise the parents to treat their children with

> love and not suspect them of bringing death to this or that

relative.

>

> with best wishes and blessings

> pandit arjun

> www.rudraksharemedy.com

>

>

> , angel <angelgoel@> wrote:

> >

> > Hi all

> >

> > Please answer my two doubts :

> >

> > 1> When a child is born ,it is believed that newly

> > born baby might be harmful/bad/good for some of the

> > relationships (like bad/harmful for paternal side OR

> > for maternal side). Can someone tell me how do we

> > analyse whether it in chart of newly born baby? Also

> > when does the effects starts showing on others family

> > members? for eg -> Child born in MOOLA nakshatra are

> > said to bring bad-luck to father/mother. My question

> > is BAD/GOOD-luck limited to parents OR it flows to

> > Grandparents (maternal and paternal both) and other

> > relations. How is that analysed from chart ?

> >

> > 2> Also when male gets married, the female coming to

> > in-laws house will have the same effect as newly born

> > baby (horroscope wise can she put some harmful/bad/

> > good effects on family members) ? Is the same true for

> > male ? Can some one give some pointers on the same.

> >

> >

> > thanks

> > angel

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________

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> >

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[Guest guest]

dear RRji

 

these are the reasons behind most astrologers being averse to read

the charts of infants. i personally do not read the chart of a child

except in rarest cases where there is a serious health problem.

 

my only bone of contention is that newborn infants must not be

attributed for any percieved bad luck of the parents and other

relatives.

 

also facts do not support these primitive rules of infants killing

others just by being born. to say that the horoscope of a native

indicates the past, present and future of that native is fair. but if

astrology says that just by being born in a star (no horoscope

analysis done and mere birth star is sufficient to fix the child) an

infant is responsible for killing so and so relative, it is

irrational, illogical and UNTRUE under any parameter. with so much

birth data available, any astrologer can easily check these things

and find for him or herself that these infant killing rules and

prohibition on father rules do not hold water.

 

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

www.rudraksharemedy.com

 

, "Rohiniranjan"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Panditji,

>

> Hardly knowledgeable in Sastras and religious scriptures in

general --

> I think astrologers take two views and perspectives when it comes

to

> reality! One set looks at individuals and then arranges the rest of

> creation around the individual. The other set looks at the creation

> and tries to find the place in it for the individual.

>

> The first set put too much power on the individual and hence also

the

> responsibility! These look at the child and even without saying so,

> somehow truly believe that the presence of the child or its arrival

> caused the loss, death, destruction, bad luck whatever.

>

> The other set looks at the individual's chart and marvels at how

dove-

> tailed many karmas are that fit due to a rinanubandhan or whatever

> reason and create the reality, in which some bad things are

indicated

> in charts, but the results were already written in the fate of the

> sufferer! They remember that the charts are not for the individual

> born but the moment!

>

> If I may use a weird analogy -- The bad movie was going to be

played

> at 6:30 PM anyway. Someone saw it only because he bought the ticket

> for that show! Should he blame the ticket for his bad experience?

>

> RR

>

> , "panditarjun2004"

> <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> >

> > dear friend

> >

> > the shastras did mention various doshams and gandams when a child

> is

> > born. these things mention that a particular relative of the

child

> > may die if the child is born in this or that star. similarly the

> > father of the child is prohibited from seeing his child for so

many

> > months or years based on the birthstar of the child, the worst

> being

> > 8 years ban on the father to see his child born in moola. once a

> > customer asked me why such prohibition is imposed only on father

> and

> > not mother and the answer is self explantory. similarly when

> gandam

> > to inlaws is written, the child is spared till he or she gets

> married

> > and then attribute this suspicion on the newly wed groom or bride.

> >

> > albeit all these things are written in shastras, these are simply

> > irrational, illogical and practically makes no sense in the

present

> > civilised modern age.

> >

> > if one reproduce exactly how a woman has to live and behave, as

> > written in the puranas, it is against the government laws. our

> > constitution has been amended umpteen number of times but the

RULES

> > AND CODES OF LIVING mentioned in the puranas have not been

ameneded

> > as they have been left to the prudence of the native who reads

them.

> >

> > hence my advise to all fraternity is not to impose these janma

> > gandams, doshams, balarishtams etc. on the newly born godlike

> > children. instead advise the parents to treat their children

with

> > love and not suspect them of bringing death to this or that

> relative.

> >

> > with best wishes and blessings

> > pandit arjun

> > www.rudraksharemedy.com

> >

> >

> > , angel <angelgoel@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi all

> > >

> > > Please answer my two doubts :

> > >

> > > 1> When a child is born ,it is believed that newly

> > > born baby might be harmful/bad/good for some of the

> > > relationships (like bad/harmful for paternal side OR

> > > for maternal side). Can someone tell me how do we

> > > analyse whether it in chart of newly born baby? Also

> > > when does the effects starts showing on others family

> > > members? for eg -> Child born in MOOLA nakshatra are

> > > said to bring bad-luck to father/mother. My question

> > > is BAD/GOOD-luck limited to parents OR it flows to

> > > Grandparents (maternal and paternal both) and other

> > > relations. How is that analysed from chart ?

> > >

> > > 2> Also when male gets married, the female coming to

> > > in-laws house will have the same effect as newly born

> > > baby (horroscope wise can she put some harmful/bad/

> > > good effects on family members) ? Is the same true for

> > > male ? Can some one give some pointers on the same.

> > >

> > >

> > > thanks

> > > angel

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ________

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> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

A lot of what passes and gets accepted as 'what astrology says..." is

what someone says and at times the someone is not even an astrologer

really!

 

Case in point: Ayanamsha!

 

The night is cold, temperature is -40 celsius (outside) where I found

shelter tonight and perhaps it is time to curl up, eat my steaming

bowl of borscht and thank God --- for many *siblings* may not be quite

as lucky ...

 

 

RR

 

, "panditarjun2004"

<panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> dear RRji

>

> these are the reasons behind most astrologers being averse to read

> the charts of infants. i personally do not read the chart of a child

> except in rarest cases where there is a serious health problem.

>

> my only bone of contention is that newborn infants must not be

> attributed for any percieved bad luck of the parents and other

> relatives.

>

> also facts do not support these primitive rules of infants killing

> others just by being born. to say that the horoscope of a native

> indicates the past, present and future of that native is fair. but if

> astrology says that just by being born in a star (no horoscope

> analysis done and mere birth star is sufficient to fix the child) an

> infant is responsible for killing so and so relative, it is

> irrational, illogical and UNTRUE under any parameter. with so much

> birth data available, any astrologer can easily check these things

> and find for him or herself that these infant killing rules and

> prohibition on father rules do not hold water.

>

> with best wishes and blessings

> pandit arjun

> www.rudraksharemedy.com

>

> , "Rohiniranjan"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Panditji,

> >

> > Hardly knowledgeable in Sastras and religious scriptures in

> general --

> > I think astrologers take two views and perspectives when it comes

> to

> > reality! One set looks at individuals and then arranges the rest of

> > creation around the individual. The other set looks at the creation

> > and tries to find the place in it for the individual.

> >

> > The first set put too much power on the individual and hence also

> the

> > responsibility! These look at the child and even without saying so,

> > somehow truly believe that the presence of the child or its arrival

> > caused the loss, death, destruction, bad luck whatever.

> >

> > The other set looks at the individual's chart and marvels at how

> dove-

> > tailed many karmas are that fit due to a rinanubandhan or whatever

> > reason and create the reality, in which some bad things are

> indicated

> > in charts, but the results were already written in the fate of the

> > sufferer! They remember that the charts are not for the individual

> > born but the moment!

> >

> > If I may use a weird analogy -- The bad movie was going to be

> played

> > at 6:30 PM anyway. Someone saw it only because he bought the ticket

> > for that show! Should he blame the ticket for his bad experience?

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , "panditarjun2004"

> > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> > >

> > > dear friend

> > >

> > > the shastras did mention various doshams and gandams when a child

> > is

> > > born. these things mention that a particular relative of the

> child

> > > may die if the child is born in this or that star. similarly the

> > > father of the child is prohibited from seeing his child for so

> many

> > > months or years based on the birthstar of the child, the worst

> > being

> > > 8 years ban on the father to see his child born in moola. once a

> > > customer asked me why such prohibition is imposed only on father

> > and

> > > not mother and the answer is self explantory. similarly when

> > gandam

> > > to inlaws is written, the child is spared till he or she gets

> > married

> > > and then attribute this suspicion on the newly wed groom or bride.

> > >

> > > albeit all these things are written in shastras, these are simply

> > > irrational, illogical and practically makes no sense in the

> present

> > > civilised modern age.

> > >

> > > if one reproduce exactly how a woman has to live and behave, as

> > > written in the puranas, it is against the government laws. our

> > > constitution has been amended umpteen number of times but the

> RULES

> > > AND CODES OF LIVING mentioned in the puranas have not been

> ameneded

> > > as they have been left to the prudence of the native who reads

> them.

> > >

> > > hence my advise to all fraternity is not to impose these janma

> > > gandams, doshams, balarishtams etc. on the newly born godlike

> > > children. instead advise the parents to treat their children

> with

> > > love and not suspect them of bringing death to this or that

> > relative.

> > >

> > > with best wishes and blessings

> > > pandit arjun

> > > www.rudraksharemedy.com

> > >

> > >

> > > , angel <angelgoel@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hi all

> > > >

> > > > Please answer my two doubts :

> > > >

> > > > 1> When a child is born ,it is believed that newly

> > > > born baby might be harmful/bad/good for some of the

> > > > relationships (like bad/harmful for paternal side OR

> > > > for maternal side). Can someone tell me how do we

> > > > analyse whether it in chart of newly born baby? Also

> > > > when does the effects starts showing on others family

> > > > members? for eg -> Child born in MOOLA nakshatra are

> > > > said to bring bad-luck to father/mother. My question

> > > > is BAD/GOOD-luck limited to parents OR it flows to

> > > > Grandparents (maternal and paternal both) and other

> > > > relations. How is that analysed from chart ?

> > > >

> > > > 2> Also when male gets married, the female coming to

> > > > in-laws house will have the same effect as newly born

> > > > baby (horroscope wise can she put some harmful/bad/

> > > > good effects on family members) ? Is the same true for

> > > > male ? Can some one give some pointers on the same.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > thanks

> > > > angel

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ________

> > > > India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new

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> > >

> >

>