Guest guest Posted February 6, 2007 Report Share Posted February 6, 2007 I have been reading about the UL, and the 12th house's importance for marital bliss, and was struck by something. I have Rahu in 12th, but it is in Gemini, which some (Sanjay Rath and Narasimha Rao included) claim is exalted. However, some resources (i.e. http://www.srigaruda.com/?p=58 ) claim that Rahu in the 12th will ruin marriage, which I, of course, wouldn't prefer. I just wanted another (more educated) person's opinion if Rahu in the 12th is bad for marriage per se. http://mumstudents.org/~twalker/images/chart.gif ^ My Chart. The 12th lord (Mercury) is in the 11th, in Taurus, whose lord (Venus) is exalted in the 9th. Does this have bearing on Rahu's (possible) negative effects? Thank you, and all blessings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 I am not "more educated" but can say from personal experience (I have Rahu in 12th house) that my marriage has been HELL at times! But somehow it is improving and did not break up......Rahu in that position is great spiritually though! I am a westerner but came to meditation and Krishna Consciousness through Rahu! Would like to hear the learned opinions.... Ila _____ <our_friend_inertia > wrote: I have been reading about the UL, and the 12th house's importance for marital bliss, and was struck by something. I have Rahu in 12th, but it is in Gemini, which some (Sanjay Rath and Narasimha Rao included) claim is exalted. However, some resources (i.e. http://www.srigaruda.com/?p=58 ) claim that Rahu in the 12th will ruin marriage, which I, of course, wouldn't prefer. I just wanted another (more educated) person's opinion if Rahu in the 12th is bad for marriage per se. http://mumstudents.org/~twalker/images/chart.gif ^ My Chart. The 12th lord (Mercury) is in the 11th, in Taurus, whose lord (Venus) is exalted in the 9th. Does this have bearing on Rahu's (possible) negative effects? Thank you, and all blessings! Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Send your birth details. Ila devi dasi MVS <ila_dd_mvs > wrote: I am not "more educated" but can say from personal experience (I have Rahu in 12th house) that my marriage has been HELL at times! But somehow it is improving and did not break up......Rahu in that position is great spiritually though! I am a westerner but came to meditation and Krishna Consciousness through Rahu! Would like to hear the learned opinions.... Ila _____ <our_friend_inertia > wrote: I have been reading about the UL, and the 12th house's importance for marital bliss, and was struck by something. I have Rahu in 12th, but it is in Gemini, which some (Sanjay Rath and Narasimha Rao included) claim is exalted. However, some resources (i.e. http://www.srigaruda.com/?p=58 ) claim that Rahu in the 12th will ruin marriage, which I, of course, wouldn't prefer. I just wanted another (more educated) person's opinion if Rahu in the 12th is bad for marriage per se. http://mumstudents.org/~twalker/images/chart.gif ^ My Chart. The 12th lord (Mercury) is in the 11th, in Taurus, whose lord (Venus) is exalted in the 9th. Does this have bearing on Rahu's (possible) negative effects? Thank you, and all blessings! Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Hi eveni m not more educated but i feel 12 house is sub concious mind so rahu does not steadness to our sub concious mind as we dream from our sub concious mind and think lot of memory r in store in sub concious so mind is not steady nothing is steady we take decision from mind and mind is wat we not see but feel wat we feel is wat we see so may be marriage may be troubled as rahu distrub our sub concious. thanxs mohit we will like to hear more from expert >Spirit Messenger <spirit.messenger > >vedic astrology >vedic astrology >Re: [vedic astrology] Rahu -- 12th Bhava >Tue, 6 Feb 2007 21:12:45 -0800 (PST) > >Send your birth details. > >Ila devi dasi MVS <ila_dd_mvs > wrote: I am not "more >educated" but can say from personal experience (I have Rahu in 12th house) >that my marriage has been HELL at times! But somehow it is improving and >did not break up......Rahu in that position is great spiritually though! I >am a westerner but came to meditation and Krishna Consciousness through >Rahu! > >Would like to hear the learned opinions.... > >Ila > >_____ <our_friend_inertia > wrote: >I have been reading about the UL, and the 12th house's importance for >marital bliss, and was struck by something. I have Rahu in 12th, but >it is in Gemini, which some (Sanjay Rath and Narasimha Rao included) >claim is exalted. > >However, some resources (i.e. http://www.srigaruda.com/?p=58 ) claim >that Rahu in the 12th will ruin marriage, which I, of course, wouldn't >prefer. I just wanted another (more educated) person's opinion if Rahu >in the 12th is bad for marriage per se. > >http://mumstudents.org/~twalker/images/chart.gif >^ >My Chart. > >The 12th lord (Mercury) is in the 11th, in Taurus, whose lord (Venus) >is exalted in the 9th. Does this have bearing on Rahu's (possible) >negative effects? > >Thank you, and all blessings! > > >Don't pick lemons. >See all the new 2007 cars at Autos. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Dear Member: No single planet will ever make or mar a horoscope's prospects. Rahu in 12th house generally affects eye sight; the native will experience sudden rise in life. There might be a temptation to indulge in unethical acts now and then. Rahu in 12th might impel a native towards extremes in enjoying sensual pleasures (12th house is the sign of bed-pleasures besides other significations and placement of bhoga-kaarakaa Rahu in the 12th naturally gives unnatural libido to a native). 12th lord Mercury in the 11th house indicates that the native will spend a lot on dharmic activities, for elders in the family and for children. The 11th lord exalted in the 9th house is a very fortunate combination. Your 7th lord Saturn in combination with Mars in the 3rd house indicates high libido. In the navamsa chart also, the 7th lord of that chart is in conjunction with Mars highlighting a highly passionate nature. As the 7th lord and Venus both are in dual signs, there may be vascillation of mind or multiplicity of relationships before the native settles down to a good family life. Incidentally, you are under Mars dasa right now. If you could behave responsibly in relationships giving more importance to family relationships rather than sensuality, your marital life will be just fine. Mars in Kanya rasi may impel a native towards extravagant habits which should be curbed as otherwise the native may end up with practically nothing towards end of life. Blessed be. Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI vedic astrology, "_____" <our_friend_inertia wrote: > > I have been reading about the UL, and the 12th house's importance for > marital bliss, and was struck by something. I have Rahu in 12th, but > it is in Gemini, which some (Sanjay Rath and Narasimha Rao included) > claim is exalted. > > However, some resources (i.e. http://www.srigaruda.com/?p=58 ) claim > that Rahu in the 12th will ruin marriage, which I, of course, wouldn't > prefer. I just wanted another (more educated) person's opinion if Rahu > in the 12th is bad for marriage per se. > > > http://mumstudents.org/~twalker/images/chart.gif > ^ > My Chart. > > The 12th lord (Mercury) is in the 11th, in Taurus, whose lord (Venus) > is exalted in the 9th. Does this have bearing on Rahu's (possible) > negative effects? > > Thank you, and all blessings! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2007 Report Share Posted February 7, 2007 Respected Pandit-ji, thank you for your reply. I thought I was in Rahu dasa now, but you may have used some other computation method to get Mars dasa. The issues you have mentioned are definitely there, and I have been dealing with them since puberty. But in 2004 (when I began Rahu) I moved to a place that is both a university and an ashram and have been focusing on meditation and spirituality. This made me realize that a truly fulfilling family life is truly what I want (which I assume is reinforced by the 2nd lord's digbala and exaltation). It is good to hear you say that things will be just fine, as this is something I have had a great deal of mental distress over. The dual rashis of mars and venus do give some desire to have multiple partners, but I _truly_ want a dharmic marriage and a spiritual life partner. I have heard (somewhere) that "a good wife is the fulfillment of dharma, artha, and kama" -- and I truly believe it. Thank you! P.S. Also thanks re: Mars in Kanya and the expenditures... I have definitely noticed this but was not told it by any Jyotishis -- I will see if I can curb spending and be more responsible with money in the future. All blessings! vedic astrology, "dakshinastrologer" <dakshinastrologer wrote: > > Dear Member: > > No single planet will ever make or mar a horoscope's prospects. > Rahu in 12th house generally affects eye sight; the native will > experience sudden rise in life. There might be a temptation to > indulge in unethical acts now and then. Rahu in 12th might impel a > native towards extremes in enjoying sensual pleasures (12th house is > the sign of bed-pleasures besides other significations and placement > of bhoga-kaarakaa Rahu in the 12th naturally gives unnatural libido > to a native). 12th lord Mercury in the 11th house indicates that > the native will spend a lot on dharmic activities, for elders in the > family and for children. The 11th lord exalted in the 9th house is > a very fortunate combination. > > Your 7th lord Saturn in combination with Mars in the 3rd house > indicates high libido. In the navamsa chart also, the 7th lord of > that chart is in conjunction with Mars highlighting a highly > passionate nature. As the 7th lord and Venus both are in dual > signs, there may be vascillation of mind or multiplicity of > relationships before the native settles down to a good family life. > Incidentally, you are under Mars dasa right now. If you could behave > responsibly in relationships giving more importance to family > relationships rather than sensuality, your marital life will be just > fine. > > Mars in Kanya rasi may impel a native towards extravagant habits > which should be curbed as otherwise the native may end up with > practically nothing towards end of life. > > Blessed be. > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI > > vedic astrology, "_____" > <our_friend_inertia@> wrote: > > > > I have been reading about the UL, and the 12th house's importance > for > > marital bliss, and was struck by something. I have Rahu in 12th, > but > > it is in Gemini, which some (Sanjay Rath and Narasimha Rao > included) > > claim is exalted. > > > > However, some resources (i.e. http://www.srigaruda.com/?p=58 ) > claim > > that Rahu in the 12th will ruin marriage, which I, of course, > wouldn't > > prefer. I just wanted another (more educated) person's opinion if > Rahu > > in the 12th is bad for marriage per se. > > > > > > http://mumstudents.org/~twalker/images/chart.gif > > ^ > > My Chart. > > > > The 12th lord (Mercury) is in the 11th, in Taurus, whose lord > (Venus) > > is exalted in the 9th. Does this have bearing on Rahu's (possible) > > negative effects? > > > > Thank you, and all blessings! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Dear Member: If destiny is static, then humans become mere automatons without any free will! One's actual destiny in present life is a factor of both past karmas and present life activities. Though times have changed we do not eat with legs nor do we walk with hands. Certain things are already perfect as they are and traditions definitely have their own value. I would rather prefer to respect those hoary traditions. Those wise men who had the intelligence to lay down such exhaustive rules even the partial application of which makes many of us seem as geniuses could not have been wrong in their beliefs! I would prefer astrology to be approached with some respect to traditions rather than with a marveric attitude of anything is changeable. It is of course my personal opinion and I would rather prefer to follow my own principles in this regard - right or wrong - and even if I go wrong, I would prefer to have erred on the side of tradition rather than do something novel and then curse myself for my impudence! Destiny is only a life-script and certain authorities like great yogis have the previlege to make slight alterations for the better in that! Certain actions of ours do change our life-script to a certain extent. If this is not so, and destiny is static and fixed at birth and every action and event is foretold and prewritten, then there is no point in speaking of sins and merit, no point in thinking of right and wrong, we can all just be! Obviously it is not the case.......Traditions do have their value and in our fast world mentality we do not have the intricate mental faculties to grasp the subtleties of tradition. So, it is best that we do not try to rationalise nor criticize the traditions. Those who believe it let them follow it correctly as best as they can. Those who disbelieve are free to do so! But, if you have genuine concerns like health or other behavioural aspects, I will be most happy to analyze it from that angle because that is allowed even by tradition to find out the right remedies. In such an event, you may kindly follow the link: www.astrodomain.ammas.com and raise your query in the query form. Blessed be. Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI ASTROLOGICAL AND REMEDIAL CONSULTANT Plot no. 1/29 Eleventh Street Babanagar Villivakkam Chennai 600 049. Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Dear Sir Dakshinamoorthi Greetings, Everything is predestine in this world. Astrologers may go wrong but destiny will never fall apart. I am telling this from the Nadi Shastra people's experience. My friend's Dad visited Nadi shastra people somewhere in his early 20s. At that point of time whatever he predicted is going 100 % correct. My friend's Dad is now 57 years old. Each and Every prediction from "pattiyan" is 100 % true so far in life. Best Wishes Jagdish "Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI" <dakshinastrologer (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Member: If destiny is static, then humans become mere automatons without any free will! One's actual destiny in present life is a factor of both past karmas and present life activities. Though times have changed we do not eat with legs nor do we walk with hands. Certain things are already perfect as they are and traditions definitely have their own value. I would rather prefer to respect those hoary traditions. Those wise men who had the intelligence to lay down such exhaustive rules even the partial application of which makes many of us seem as geniuses could not have been wrong in their beliefs! I would prefer astrology to be approached with some respect to traditions rather than with a marveric attitude of anything is changeable. It is of course my personal opinion and I would rather prefer to follow my own principles in this regard - right or wrong - and even if I go wrong, I would prefer to have erred on the side of tradition rather than do something novel and then curse myself for my impudence! Destiny is only a life-script and certain authorities like great yogis have the previlege to make slight alterations for the better in that! Certain actions of ours do change our life-script to a certain extent. If this is not so, and destiny is static and fixed at birth and every action and event is foretold and prewritten, then there is no point in speaking of sins and merit, no point in thinking of right and wrong, we can all just be! Obviously it is not the case.......Traditions do have their value and in our fast world mentality we do not have the intricate mental faculties to grasp the subtleties of tradition. So, it is best that we do not try to rationalise nor criticize the traditions. Those who believe it let them follow it correctly as best as they can. Those who disbelieve are free to do so! But, if you have genuine concerns like health or other behavioural aspects, I will be most happy to analyze it from that angle because that is allowed even by tradition to find out the right remedies. In such an event, you may kindly follow the link: www.astrodomain.ammas.com and raise your query in the query form. Blessed be. Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI ASTROLOGICAL AND REMEDIAL CONSULTANT Plot no. 1/29 Eleventh Street Babanagar Villivakkam Chennai 600 049. Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Namesta Dakshinamoorthi ji, Sir u r very much right as u have said in the following letter sir i always and believe that basic r same but tenchique changes sir but people saying right or wrong in their and i feel nobody is right or worng sir in this life y i feel that sir all great saints like Gautam.B Mahavir.Swami ji Sai Baba they have same face same eyes and same nose wat they have change is that they got vision in their mind i want to say that only the mind set is changing nothing have changed so far in life nature and things r the same just that people have different ascept towards the life and feel nothing is right and wrong only there is a different opioion is that wat u belief u see but here people see and beilef,Sir i follow ur every letteru write and i love the u express ur thoughs sir i m a student of astrology age 30 and have no Guru and no teaching from no one just that i feel i m blessed wit things (every one is) by LORD Sani and now i m realising it thanks sir MOHIT-9376956766 >"Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI" <dakshinastrologer (AT) (DOT) co.in> >vedic astrology >astrology astrology <indastrology > >CC: vedic astrology >Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Rahu -- 12th Bhava >Thu, 8 Feb 2007 16:01:44 +0000 (GMT) > >Dear Member: > > If destiny is static, then humans become mere automatons without any >free will! One's actual destiny in present life is a factor of both past >karmas and present life activities. Though times have changed we do not >eat with legs nor do we walk with hands. Certain things are already >perfect as they are and traditions definitely have their own value. I >would rather prefer to respect those hoary traditions. Those wise men who >had the intelligence to lay down such exhaustive rules even the partial >application of which makes many of us seem as geniuses could not have been >wrong in their beliefs! > > I would prefer astrology to be approached with some respect to >traditions rather than with a marveric attitude of anything is changeable. >It is of course my personal opinion and I would rather prefer to follow my >own principles in this regard - right or wrong - and even if I go wrong, I >would prefer to have erred on the side of tradition rather than do >something novel and then curse myself for my impudence! > > Destiny is only a life-script and certain authorities like great yogis >have the previlege to make slight alterations for the better in that! >Certain actions of ours do change our life-script to a certain extent. If >this is not so, and destiny is static and fixed at birth and every action >and event is foretold and prewritten, then there is no point in speaking of >sins and merit, no point in thinking of right and wrong, we can all just >be! Obviously it is not the case.......Traditions do have their value and >in our fast world mentality we do not have the intricate mental faculties >to grasp the subtleties of tradition. So, it is best that we do not try to >rationalise nor criticize the traditions. Those who believe it let them >follow it correctly as best as they can. Those who disbelieve are free to >do so! > > But, if you have genuine concerns like health or other behavioural >aspects, I will be most happy to analyze it from that angle because that is >allowed even by tradition to find out the right remedies. In such an event, >you may kindly follow the link: www.astrodomain.ammas.com and raise your >query in the query form. > > Blessed be. > > > > > >Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI >ASTROLOGICAL AND REMEDIAL CONSULTANT >Plot no. 1/29 >Eleventh Street >Babanagar >Villivakkam >Chennai 600 049. > > > Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2007 Report Share Posted February 8, 2007 Respected Dakshinmoorthi ji, I didnot mean to disrespect traditions but I also believe that as a human, I have a right to question and of course with respect. I do believe that just because someone (even Einstien) has said something, doesnot have to be taken strictly that way unless and until proven to be correct. In Short, I am still not convinced how can we predict future of a person after 12 years of age and not before 12 years of age. If I gave you my birth details and you could say that age x to y will be a good period or bad period, it should have been said when I was born as the BIRTH chart is the same. I might not be mature enough to understand this complexity but still I am seeking for an answer and it shall remain my quest. Regards -K Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI <dakshinastrologer (AT) (DOT) co.in> astrology astrology <indastrology > Cc: vedic astrology Thursday, February 8, 2007 11:01:44 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Rahu -- 12th Bhava Dear Member: If destiny is static, then humans become mere automatons without any free will! One's actual destiny in present life is a factor of both past karmas and present life activities. Though times have changed we do not eat with legs nor do we walk with hands. Certain things are already perfect as they are and traditions definitely have their own value. I would rather prefer to respect those hoary traditions. Those wise men who had the intelligence to lay down such exhaustive rules even the partial application of which makes many of us seem as geniuses could not have been wrong in their beliefs! I would prefer astrology to be approached with some respect to traditions rather than with a marveric attitude of anything is changeable. It is of course my personal opinion and I would rather prefer to follow my own principles in this regard - right or wrong - and even if I go wrong, I would prefer to have erred on the side of tradition rather than do something novel and then curse myself for my impudence! Destiny is only a life-script and certain authorities like great yogis have the previlege to make slight alterations for the better in that! Certain actions of ours do change our life-script to a certain extent. If this is not so, and destiny is static and fixed at birth and every action and event is foretold and prewritten, then there is no point in speaking of sins and merit, no point in thinking of right and wrong, we can all just be! Obviously it is not the case.......Traditio ns do have their value and in our fast world mentality we do not have the intricate mental faculties to grasp the subtleties of tradition. So, it is best that we do not try to rationalise nor criticize the traditions. Those who believe it let them follow it correctly as best as they can. Those who disbelieve are free to do so! But, if you have genuine concerns like health or other behavioural aspects, I will be most happy to analyze it from that angle because that is allowed even by tradition to find out the right remedies. In such an event, you may kindly follow the link: www.astrodomain. ammas.com and raise your query in the query form. Blessed be. Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI ASTROLOGICAL AND REMEDIAL CONSULTANT Plot no. 1/29 Eleventh Street Babanagar Villivakkam Chennai 600 049. ------------ --------- --------- --- Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2007 Report Share Posted February 9, 2007 Respected sir, Nice to your see mails. Recent past i could not see any of your mails. Now I am happy to see your posts, by sharing your valuable knowledge in this group. Ramanathan Balaji "Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI" <dakshinastrologer (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Member: If destiny is static, then humans become mere automatons without any free will! One's actual destiny in present life is a factor of both past karmas and present life activities. Though times have changed we do not eat with legs nor do we walk with hands. Certain things are already perfect as they are and traditions definitely have their own value. I would rather prefer to respect those hoary traditions. Those wise men who had the intelligence to lay down such exhaustive rules even the partial application of which makes many of us seem as geniuses could not have been wrong in their beliefs! I would prefer astrology to be approached with some respect to traditions rather than with a marveric attitude of anything is changeable. It is of course my personal opinion and I would rather prefer to follow my own principles in this regard - right or wrong - and even if I go wrong, I would prefer to have erred on the side of tradition rather than do something novel and then curse myself for my impudence! Destiny is only a life-script and certain authorities like great yogis have the previlege to make slight alterations for the better in that! Certain actions of ours do change our life-script to a certain extent. If this is not so, and destiny is static and fixed at birth and every action and event is foretold and prewritten, then there is no point in speaking of sins and merit, no point in thinking of right and wrong, we can all just be! Obviously it is not the case.......Traditions do have their value and in our fast world mentality we do not have the intricate mental faculties to grasp the subtleties of tradition. So, it is best that we do not try to rationalise nor criticize the traditions. Those who believe it let them follow it correctly as best as they can. Those who disbelieve are free to do so! But, if you have genuine concerns like health or other behavioural aspects, I will be most happy to analyze it from that angle because that is allowed even by tradition to find out the right remedies. In such an event, you may kindly follow the link: www.astrodomain.ammas.com and raise your query in the query form. Blessed be. Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI ASTROLOGICAL AND REMEDIAL CONSULTANT Plot no. 1/29 Eleventh Street Babanagar Villivakkam Chennai 600 049. Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2007 Report Share Posted February 14, 2007 Dear K?, I too have a similar question that is raised by you. Again, it does not mean any disrespect to any individual. What Dakshinamurthyji has stated is taken from our ancient texts. As it said in the texts, it becomes unquestionable for many people. I am also trying to find an answer to this question. Why did our great sages say this? One answer I can think of is, that a small child is under the protection of its parents let us say until 12 years or until it attains teen age, that is when he/she starts becoming an independent adult. Since the child is under the supervision of mother in very young age and later under father until the age of 12, their influence on the child can not be ignored. Hence, the chart of the child alone, ignoring this influence may not give accurate results. This is the best I can think of to support what is said in the texts. However, I am not fully convinced about this explanation myself. If the child is influenced by a parent of by anyone else in the childhood, even that should be based on the karma of the child and hence that should also show up in the chart of the child. This is my argument against what is said in the texts. I am still trying to find a satisfactory answer... Regards, Krishna --- astrology astrology <indastrology > wrote: > Respected Dakshinmoorthi ji, > > I didnot mean to disrespect traditions but I also believe that > as a human, I have a right to question and of course with > respect. I do believe that just because someone (even > Einstien) has said something, doesnot have to be taken > strictly that way unless and until proven to be correct. In > Short, I am still not convinced how can we predict future of a > person after 12 years of age and not before 12 years of age. > If I gave you my birth details and you could say that age x to > y will be a good period or bad period, it should have been > said when I was born as the BIRTH chart is the same. > > I might not be mature enough to understand this complexity but > still I am seeking for an answer and it shall remain my quest. > > Regards > > -K > > > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI > <dakshinastrologer (AT) (DOT) co.in> > astrology astrology <indastrology > > Cc: vedic astrology > Thursday, February 8, 2007 11:01:44 AM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Rahu -- 12th Bhava > > Dear Member: > > If destiny is static, then humans become mere automatons > without any free will! One's actual destiny in present life is > a factor of both past karmas and present life activities. > Though times have changed we do not eat with legs nor do we > walk with hands. Certain things are already perfect as they > are and traditions definitely have their own value. I would > rather prefer to respect those hoary traditions. Those wise > men who had the intelligence to lay down such exhaustive rules > even the partial application of which makes many of us seem as > geniuses could not have been wrong in their beliefs! > > I would prefer astrology to be approached with some respect to > traditions rather than with a marveric attitude of anything is > changeable. It is of course my personal opinion and I would > rather prefer to follow my own principles in this regard - > right or wrong - and even if I go wrong, I would prefer to > have erred on the side of tradition rather than do something > novel and then curse myself for my impudence! > > Destiny is only a life-script and certain authorities like > great yogis have the previlege to make slight alterations for > the better in that! Certain actions of ours do change our > life-script to a certain extent. If this is not so, and > destiny is static and fixed at birth and every action and > event is foretold and prewritten, then there is no point in > speaking of sins and merit, no point in thinking of right and > wrong, we can all just be! Obviously it is not the > case.......Traditio ns do have their value and in our fast > world mentality we do not have the intricate mental faculties > to grasp the subtleties of tradition. So, it is best that we > do not try to rationalise nor criticize the traditions. Those > who believe it let them follow it correctly as best as they > can. Those who disbelieve are free to do so! > > But, if you have genuine concerns like health or other > behavioural aspects, I will be most happy to analyze it from > that angle because that is allowed even by tradition to find > out the right remedies. In such an event, you may kindly > follow the link: www.astrodomain. ammas.com and raise your > query in the query form. > > Blessed be. > > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI > ASTROLOGICAL AND REMEDIAL CONSULTANT > Plot no. 1/29 > Eleventh Street > Babanagar > Villivakkam > Chennai 600 049. > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - > Answers > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2007 Report Share Posted February 15, 2007 Perhaps it IS there in the birth chart AT BIRTH, but by the influence of material nature (Maya or Durga etc) it will not be reveiled until later age - so no astrologer will pick up on it until later. After all, there is a higher force at work who may NOT want us to know EVERYTHING right away!!! Ila Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 > wrote: Dear K?, I too have a similar question that is raised by you. Again, it does not mean any disrespect to any individual. What Dakshinamurthyji has stated is taken from our ancient texts. As it said in the texts, it becomes unquestionable for many people. I am also trying to find an answer to this question. Why did our great sages say this? One answer I can think of is, that a small child is under the protection of its parents let us say until 12 years or until it attains teen age, that is when he/she starts becoming an independent adult. Since the child is under the supervision of mother in very young age and later under father until the age of 12, their influence on the child can not be ignored. Hence, the chart of the child alone, ignoring this influence may not give accurate results. This is the best I can think of to support what is said in the texts. However, I am not fully convinced about this explanation myself. If the child is influenced by a parent of by anyone else in the childhood, even that should be based on the karma of the child and hence that should also show up in the chart of the child. This is my argument against what is said in the texts. I am still trying to find a satisfactory answer... Regards, Krishna --- astrology astrology <indastrology > wrote: > Respected Dakshinmoorthi ji, > > I didnot mean to disrespect traditions but I also believe that > as a human, I have a right to question and of course with > respect. I do believe that just because someone (even > Einstien) has said something, doesnot have to be taken > strictly that way unless and until proven to be correct. In > Short, I am still not convinced how can we predict future of a > person after 12 years of age and not before 12 years of age. > If I gave you my birth details and you could say that age x to > y will be a good period or bad period, it should have been > said when I was born as the BIRTH chart is the same. > > I might not be mature enough to understand this complexity but > still I am seeking for an answer and it shall remain my quest. > > Regards > > -K > > > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI > <dakshinastrologer (AT) (DOT) co.in> > astrology astrology <indastrology > > Cc: vedic astrology > Thursday, February 8, 2007 11:01:44 AM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Rahu -- 12th Bhava > > Dear Member: > > If destiny is static, then humans become mere automatons > without any free will! One's actual destiny in present life is > a factor of both past karmas and present life activities. > Though times have changed we do not eat with legs nor do we > walk with hands. Certain things are already perfect as they > are and traditions definitely have their own value. I would > rather prefer to respect those hoary traditions. Those wise > men who had the intelligence to lay down such exhaustive rules > even the partial application of which makes many of us seem as > geniuses could not have been wrong in their beliefs! > > I would prefer astrology to be approached with some respect to > traditions rather than with a marveric attitude of anything is > changeable. It is of course my personal opinion and I would > rather prefer to follow my own principles in this regard - > right or wrong - and even if I go wrong, I would prefer to > have erred on the side of tradition rather than do something > novel and then curse myself for my impudence! > > Destiny is only a life-script and certain authorities like > great yogis have the previlege to make slight alterations for > the better in that! Certain actions of ours do change our > life-script to a certain extent. If this is not so, and > destiny is static and fixed at birth and every action and > event is foretold and prewritten, then there is no point in > speaking of sins and merit, no point in thinking of right and > wrong, we can all just be! Obviously it is not the > case.......Traditio ns do have their value and in our fast > world mentality we do not have the intricate mental faculties > to grasp the subtleties of tradition. So, it is best that we > do not try to rationalise nor criticize the traditions. Those > who believe it let them follow it correctly as best as they > can. Those who disbelieve are free to do so! > > But, if you have genuine concerns like health or other > behavioural aspects, I will be most happy to analyze it from > that angle because that is allowed even by tradition to find > out the right remedies. In such an event, you may kindly > follow the link: www.astrodomain. ammas.com and raise your > query in the query form. > > Blessed be. > > > Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI > ASTROLOGICAL AND REMEDIAL CONSULTANT > Plot no. 1/29 > Eleventh Street > Babanagar > Villivakkam > Chennai 600 049. > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - > Answers > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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