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Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Visiti, Namaskar

Thank you posting very educative lectures on your website. I have a

related question. Debilitated/weak benefics placed in dusthanas are

considered good and strong benefics in Dusthanas are generally not good.

How would the retro motion of the planets alter the situation? Would deb

retro planet be seen as strong or weak? I understand deb retro benefic

placement in dusthana is considered a blessing from past life. Please

correct me if I am wrong.

Best regards

Ramesh

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hare rama krsna

Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

 

I was also dealing with these rules in past and my experience tells

me that dividing for "good" and "bad" in these type of cases is very

misleading. For example Phaldeepika says that duryoga is when kendra

lord is in dushtana AND weak (low avastha) therefore if malefic is

in dushtana then it creates havoc when exalted (for Lagna) but it

gives resources to the LORD so thats difference and world is not

black-white. Or when ninth lord is in dusthana debilitated as

malefic then I was taught that fortune is higher but boss suffers

(deb). If benefics are in dusthanas and exalted then its good for

these bhavas at it can reduce enmity etc but for lagna it can be bad

as strong avashta shows high awarness and you dont see this benefics

in life and you suffer a lot. When retro then situation is opposite

after some time, so when malefic is in dusthana retro debilitated

then he is not so dangerous then and you can neglect Him but after

some time You can see thorns in your feets. These are kind of yoga's

where You can only say its good for this but bad for that (like VRY

yuti Jupiter/Venus or Badhakesh in 12 with other graha) but COMPLETE

GENERALIZATION is for me quite misleading.

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

 

, Ramesh.F.Gangaramani wrote:

>

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

> Dear Visiti, Namaskar

> Thank you posting very educative lectures on your website. I have

a

> related question. Debilitated/weak benefics placed in dusthanas

are

> considered good and strong benefics in Dusthanas are generally not

good.

> How would the retro motion of the planets alter the situation?

Would deb

> retro planet be seen as strong or weak? I understand deb retro

benefic

> placement in dusthana is considered a blessing from past life.

Please

> correct me if I am wrong.

> Best regards

> Ramesh

>

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Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

I've tried to answer this query in todays class. You can get the MP3

from the site already now.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

--

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

<http://srigaruda.com>

 

 

Ramesh.F.Gangaramani (AT) jci (DOT) com wrote:

>

>

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

> Dear Visiti, Namaskar

> Thank you posting very educative lectures on your website. I have a

> related question. Debilitated/weak benefics placed in dusthanas are

> considered good and strong benefics in Dusthanas are generally not

> good. How would the retro motion of the planets alter the situation?

> Would deb retro planet be seen as strong or weak? I understand deb

> retro benefic placement in dusthana is considered a blessing from past

> life. Please correct me if I am wrong.

> Best regards

> Ramesh

>

>

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Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Rafal, Namaskar.

Thank you for your response. Visti tried to draw some conclusions in his

lectures and my understanding of them is as follows;

1. Strong Natural Benefics are good in Kendras and bad in dusthanas.

2. Weak natural benefics are good in dusthanas and bad in kendras.

I am open to corrections if it was not so. He did not discuss retro

planets. My question is will deb retro be classified as weak or strong?

Similarly will exalted retro be classified as weak or strong? Are you

implying that they are weak initially and get stronger later on?

thanks

Ramesh

 

 

 

 

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Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

 

I was also dealing with these rules in past and my experience tells

me that dividing for "good" and "bad" in these type of cases is very

misleading. For example Phaldeepika says that duryoga is when kendra

lord is in dushtana AND weak (low avastha) therefore if malefic is

in dushtana then it creates havoc when exalted (for Lagna) but it

gives resources to the LORD so thats difference and world is not

black-white. Or when ninth lord is in dusthana debilitated as

malefic then I was taught that fortune is higher but boss suffers

(deb). If benefics are in dusthanas and exalted then its good for

these bhavas at it can reduce enmity etc but for lagna it can be bad

as strong avashta shows high awarness and you dont see this benefics

in life and you suffer a lot. When retro then situation is opposite

after some time, so when malefic is in dusthana retro debilitated

then he is not so dangerous then and you can neglect Him but after

some time You can see thorns in your feets. These are kind of yoga's

where You can only say its good for this but bad for that (like VRY

yuti Jupiter/Venus or Badhakesh in 12 with other graha) but COMPLETE

GENERALIZATION is for me quite misleading.

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

, Ramesh.F.Gangaramani wrote:

>

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

> Dear Visiti, Namaskar

> Thank you posting very educative lectures on your website. I have

a

> related question. Debilitated/weak benefics placed in dusthanas

are

> considered good and strong benefics in Dusthanas are generally not

good.

> How would the retro motion of the planets alter the situation?

Would deb

> retro planet be seen as strong or weak? I understand deb retro

benefic

> placement in dusthana is considered a blessing from past life.

Please

> correct me if I am wrong.

> Best regards

> Ramesh

>

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hare rama krsna

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   Vistiji talks about Vakri grahas in His last lecture with some examples. I advise You to go through this as this is crystal-clear presentation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Natural benefics indicate those who give or those who have enough good karma to get things without fighting. So when You have strong exalted benefics in Kendra it means that all Your friends are showering You without fighting. This also shows other good things written in Mala Yoga's / Parvata Yoga / Lagnaadhi Yoga. Support and mental state is beneficial.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When Malefics are in kendra then high diptadi avastha shows high ideals (often spirituality) and no money(You dont want to take) - this You will see especially in spiritual / astrological community. When Malefics are in Kendra and debilitated then You dont have any problem to take = therefore Raja Yoga. But still it can give bad character (Sarpa) and low ideas or native should have other yoga's to promote Satwa.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 When benefics are in dushtana then its good for dusthana(maybe also good for enemy) but it can be bad for this graha. So here the situation is different. Like I wrote in previouos mail. I try to understand this situation like this: kendra are Your friends, dushtana's are Your enemies, exaltation is high ideals and resources while debilitation shows low ideals. Any other further generalization can be misleading.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Visti, Namaskar,

Thank you for covering retro deb and exaltation in your next lecture.

I recall Sanjayji writing or saying the following;

1. Deb retro beneifcs in kendra are a curse from past life whereas the

same in dusthanas are a blessings from past life.

2. On the other hand deb retro malefics in kendra are a blessings from

past life and the same in dusthanas are a curse from past life.

I have just referred to my notes and not gone back to source. Please let

me know if I made any mistake in understanding the above.

Regards

Ramesh

 

 

 

 

visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

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Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

I've tried to answer this query in todays class. You can get the MP3 from

the site already now.

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

 

 

Ramesh.F.Gangaramani (AT) jci (DOT) com wrote:

 

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Visiti, Namaskar

Thank you posting very educative lectures on your website. I have a

related question. Debilitated/weak benefics placed in dusthanas are

considered good and strong benefics in Dusthanas are generally not good.

How would the retro motion of the planets alter the situation? Would deb

retro planet be seen as strong or weak? I understand deb retro benefic

placement in dusthana is considered a blessing from past life. Please

correct me if I am wrong.

Best regards

Ramesh

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हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

 

Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

You are correct, I realized i had not talked about this in the latest

recording, however i have done so in a recording much earlier. Do see

the past recordings where i specifically have talked about retrogression.

 

Yours sincerely,

 

--

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

<http://srigaruda.com>'>http://srigaruda.com>

 

 

Ramesh.F.Gangaramani (AT) jci (DOT) com wrote:

>

>

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

> Dear Visti, Namaskar,

> Thank you for covering retro deb and exaltation in your next lecture.

> I recall Sanjayji writing or saying the following;

> 1. Deb retro beneifcs in kendra are a curse from past life whereas the

> same in dusthanas are a blessings from past life.

> 2. On the other hand deb retro malefics in kendra are a blessings from

> past life and the same in dusthanas are a curse from past life.

> I have just referred to my notes and not gone back to source. Please

> let me know if I made any mistake in understanding the above.

> Regards

> Ramesh

>

>

>

> *visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com*

> Sent by:

>

> 02/04/2007 11:23 AM

> Please respond to

>

>

>

>

> To

>

> cc

>

> Subject

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture on Bhavas

>

>

>

>

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

>

> Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

> I've tried to answer this query in todays class. You can get the MP3

> from the site already now.

>

> Yours sincerely,

>

> --

> Visti Larsen

> email: _visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com_ <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

> For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit:

> _http://srigaruda.com _ <http://srigaruda.com/>

>

> _

> __Ramesh.F.Gangaramani (AT) jci (DOT) com_ <Ramesh.F.Gangaramani (AT) jci (DOT) com>

> wrote:

>

>

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

> Dear Visiti, Namaskar

> Thank you posting very educative lectures on your website. I have a

> related question. Debilitated/weak benefics placed in dusthanas are

> considered good and strong benefics in Dusthanas are generally not

> good. How would the retro motion of the planets alter the situation?

> Would deb retro planet be seen as strong or weak? I understand deb

> retro benefic placement in dusthana is considered a blessing from past

> life. Please correct me if I am wrong.

> Best regards

> Ramesh

>

>

>

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Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Visti, Namaskar

Sorry! I couldn't locate the specific recording. Please point me to the

right one when you have some time.

My questions however are as follows;

You have indicated that deb/ weak benefic in dusthana is good. If deb

retro planet becomes strong or if the retro gati reverses the indications

why is deb retro in dusthana a blessing?

Similarly if weak/deb malefic is bad in kendra why isn't retro deb malefic

good in kendra, why does it come a curse?

You also said deb malefic in kendra is materially good, rajayoga. Is retro

deb malefic in kendra bad materially? is it a Blessing only for spiritual

goals?

Regards

Ramesh

 

 

 

 

visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

Sent by:

02/05/2007 10:00 AM

Please respond to

 

 

 

To

 

cc

 

Subject

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हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

You are correct, I realized i had not talked about this in the latest

recording, however i have done so in a recording much earlier. Do see the

past recordings where i specifically have talked about retrogression.

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

 

 

Ramesh.F.Gangaramani (AT) jci (DOT) com wrote:

 

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Visti, Namaskar,

Thank you for covering retro deb and exaltation in your next lecture.

I recall Sanjayji writing or saying the following;

1. Deb retro beneifcs in kendra are a curse from past life whereas the

same in dusthanas are a blessings from past life.

2. On the other hand deb retro malefics in kendra are a blessings from

past life and the same in dusthanas are a curse from past life.

I have just referred to my notes and not gone back to source. Please let

me know if I made any mistake in understanding the above.

Regards

Ramesh

 

 

 

visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

Sent by:

02/04/2007 11:23 AM

 

Please respond to

 

 

 

 

To

 

cc

 

Subject

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture on Bhavas

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

I've tried to answer this query in todays class. You can get the MP3 from

the site already now.

Yours sincerely,

--

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

 

 

Ramesh.F.Gangaramani (AT) jci (DOT) com wrote:

 

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Visiti, Namaskar

Thank you posting very educative lectures on your website. I have a

related question. Debilitated/weak benefics placed in dusthanas are

considered good and strong benefics in Dusthanas are generally not good.

How would the retro motion of the planets alter the situation? Would deb

retro planet be seen as strong or weak? I understand deb retro benefic

placement in dusthana is considered a blessing from past life. Please

correct me if I am wrong.

Best regards

Ramesh

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Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

This is aiming towards a more advanced understanding of retrogression.

Consider this he NEXT level of understanding of the topic.

 

When we go deeper into retrogression we can no longer settle with simply

recognizing two motions of planets, namely Direct vs. Retrograde, but

must now consider THREE motions namely:

Direct - Chara (rajasic state)

Stationary - dvisvabhava (sattvic state)

Retrograde - sthira (tamasic state)

 

Here we are taught that the stationary position is a state of

recharging, where the nature of the planets will indicate whether they

are 1) meditating (sattvic grahas); 2) scheming (rajasic grahas); 3)

sleeping (tamasic grahas).

 

Naturally not all the planets can achieve these three states, and hence

we are talking of five grahas namely:

Sattvic: Jupiter.

Rajasic: Mercury and Venus.

Tamasic: Saturn and Mars.

 

Here the initial direct motion of the grahas shows them moving towards

achieving their desires, and when they gradually slow down towards

stationary they begin to loose their energy and whichever yogas

associated with them, until they become completely helpless/inactive

when in stationary itself.

Having come out of the stationary position and begin their retrogression

they are all eager to achieve their desires with new found strength,

however, the tamasic grahas coming out of their slumber can be utterly

destructive and can completely devastate their house position due to the

intense anger/sorrow they have suffered from loosing their abilities

during their stationary position.

As a result the worst placement for tamasic grahas during their

retrogression is i) their own sign and ii) exaltation.

Hence, such a position of a tamasic graha should not be in kendra or

trikona as they will devastate their signs position.

 

So we can infer: /a retrograde malefic/tamasic graha is like a curse

when in own sign/exaltation and in the beneficial houses i.e. kendra and

trikona, as it completely devastates these houses. Whereas his placement

in //dusthana //when in own sign/exaltation will act like a vipareet

raja yoga and destroy enemies.

Opposite will happen in his debilitation sign.

/

 

Example 1: Sri Rama (Sun, Mars, Jupiter, Venus and Saturn in exaltation;

Moon and Lagna in Cancer; Mercury in Taurus; Rahu and Ketu in

Sagittarius and Gemini respectively)

 

In the chart of Sri Rama Saturn is opposite the Sun and must thus be

retrograde. Saturn is in his exaltation sign in a kendra which is a very

negative position and will devastate the fourth house indications. When

the Moola dasa of Saturn began Sri Rama was exiled from his home (fourth

house) due to the actions of a step mother (fourth house - saturn).

 

Example 2: Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa

February 18, 1836

Time: 6:23:27

Time Zone: 5:50:56 (East of GMT)

Place: 87 E 44' 00", 22 N 53' 00"

 

Aquarius is the Lagna and three planets viz. Saturn, Jupiter and Mercury

are retrograde. Among these Saturn is retrograde in the ninth house in

exaltation. Whilst Saturn and Jupiter both associated wit the ninth

house indicating blessings after joining a spiritual lineage, the

position of Saturn being retro and exalted brings a negative influence

on the ninth house.

The effects of poverty, hunger, etc. and all the amenities of the

lifestyle of an ascetic are indicated. However, Saturn is the lagna lord

and indicates that HE chose this lifestyle, and thus a real tapasvi is

born from this yoga.

 

 

Now, a benefic planet be it sattvic or rajasic will carry somewhat

different characteristics. The sattvic Jupiter is like a sage coming out

of meditation and is eager to bless the world with mantras, knowledge,

etc. As a result he is in a very giving mood and if he is placed in his

sign of debilitation there is NO GIVING as he has nothing to give. Yes,

he is aiming towards exaltation as that is his desire, but how much of

this can he give?

Similarly the rajasic planets are aiming towards growth and prosperity,

but without money (debilitation) how will they grow?

/

Hence when a BENEFIC is retrograde, then his placement in debilitation

is ONLY auspicious when in Dusthana. Otherwise in kendra or trikona he

will act like a curse.

Opposite will happen in the exaltation sign.

/

 

Example 3: Insanity Case - VRA

August 10, 1949

Time: 9:01:12

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 85 E 50' 00", 20 N 30' 00"

 

The lagna is Virgo and Jupiter is retrograde in the chart. Jupiter is

placed in the fifth house in debilitation thus indicating a terrible

durbhagya from past life. This is substantiated by Jupiter being

afflicted by Sun and Mars (fire/burning), as Jupiters vargottama

placement indicates that it will affect the first house adversely where

health, intelligence will suffer as a result.

This happens in the fifth house of mantra and bhakti and can show wrong

mantras/thoughts guiding the native and leading towards the problem.

This is especially so with Jupiter being badhakesh placed here as a

severe pisacha badhak and sarpa dosha exists in the chart.

 

The native dabbled in black magic and some of the darker tantric

practices, which resulted in him loosing his mental balance after an

accident involving the burning down of a building, he developed

scizophrenia.

 

 

Now, there is more to consider here such as the INTENSITY of the

retrogression, as a planet who is ending his retrogression has his

desires fulfilled and will not be as destructive, whilst one who has

just begun is full of energy and desires. I will leave this aspect of

the discussion to a future publication./

/

 

Yours sincerely,

 

--

Visti Larsen

email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

<http://srigaruda.com>'>http://srigaruda.com>

 

 

Ramesh.F.Gangaramani (AT) jci (DOT) com wrote:

>

>

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

> Dear Visti, Namaskar

> Sorry! I couldn't locate the specific recording. Please point me to

> the right one when you have some time.

> My questions however are as follows;

> You have indicated that deb/ weak benefic in dusthana is good. If deb

> retro planet becomes strong or if the retro gati reverses the

> indications why is deb retro in dusthana a blessing?

> Similarly if weak/deb malefic is bad in kendra why isn't retro deb

> malefic good in kendra, why does it come a curse?

> You also said deb malefic in kendra is materially good, rajayoga. Is

> retro deb malefic in kendra bad materially? is it a Blessing only for

> spiritual goals?

> Regards

> Ramesh

>

>

>

> *visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com*

> Sent by:

>

> 02/05/2007 10:00 AM

> Please respond to

>

>

>

>

> To

>

> cc

>

> Subject

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture on Bhavas

>

>

>

>

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

>

> Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

> You are correct, I realized i had not talked about this in the latest

> recording, however i have done so in a recording much earlier. Do see

> the past recordings where i specifically have talked about retrogression.

>

> Yours sincerely,

>

> --

> Visti Larsen

> email: _visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com_ <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

> For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit:

> _http://srigaruda.com _ <http://srigaruda.com/>

>

> _

> __Ramesh.F.Gangaramani (AT) jci (DOT) com_ <Ramesh.F.Gangaramani (AT) jci (DOT) com>

> wrote:

>

>

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

> Dear Visti, Namaskar,

> Thank you for covering retro deb and exaltation in your next lecture.

> I recall Sanjayji writing or saying the following;

> 1. Deb retro beneifcs in kendra are a curse from past life whereas the

> same in dusthanas are a blessings from past life.

> 2. On the other hand deb retro malefics in kendra are a blessings from

> past life and the same in dusthanas are a curse from past life.

> I have just referred to my notes and not gone back to source. Please

> let me know if I made any mistake in understanding the above.

> Regards

> Ramesh

>

>

> *visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com*

> Sent by:

>

> 02/04/2007 11:23 AM

> Please respond to

>

>

>

> To

>

> cc

>

> Subject

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Lecture on Bhavas

>

>

>

>

>

>

हरे राम कृषà¥à¤£à¥¥

>

> Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

> I've tried to answer this query in todays class. You can get the MP3

> from the site already now.

>

> Yours sincerely,

>

> --

> Visti Larsen

> email: _visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com_ <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

> For consultations, free mp3's and articles visit:

> _http://srigaruda.com _ <http://srigaruda.com/>

> _

>

> __Ramesh.F.Gangaramani (AT) jci (DOT) com_ <Ramesh.F.Gangaramani (AT) jci (DOT) com>

> wrote:

>

>

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

> Dear Visiti, Namaskar

> Thank you posting very educative lectures on your website. I have a

> related question. Debilitated/weak benefics placed in dusthanas are

> considered good and strong benefics in Dusthanas are generally not

> good. How would the retro motion of the planets alter the situation?

> Would deb retro planet be seen as strong or weak? I understand deb

> retro benefic placement in dusthana is considered a blessing from past

> life. Please correct me if I am wrong.

> Best regards

> Ramesh

>

>

>

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