Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Bhaskar ji, For the benefit of the forum, would you care to share a bit more? Does prashna not work for you or this particular software when used for prashna? It would help us all because it is obvious that many individuals use prashna techniques quite a bit and often. Some of them may be using this software and probably could be helped by your sharings. It is sad though that after jyotish software (including commercial ones) have been on the since since 80s, there remain problems sometimes major ones today, 20+ years later! I am strictly talking about commercial software and cannot really impose such demands and expectations on freeware and shareware which are labours of love and acts of charity. RR , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Dolatji, > > Yes I have been using this for last one year, but for Prashna Jyotish > it does not work for me. This is no doubt the best softwares > available on Net for downloading and the great blessings from > thousands must have accrued to the owners including mines, for their > service to the astrologer community. They have been magnamonius > in sharing with the public,and I bow to them. > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , neela bagaria > <neelabagaria@> wrote: > > > > Bhaskarji > > One of the detailed software is free available to down load > > name JAGGANNATH HORA > > download the same i think it is the best detailed calculation > > one should know how to read it > > dolat > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > Yes I cannot say that any Software is complete. > > > > This took place about 6-8 months before. > > A famous company well known all over India to astrologers,and also > > specialising in KP Softwares, its a shame that I had a bad > experience > > with them. This company also has a Forum on KP among the > Astrological > > Forums where great self-confessed astrologers who think that they > are > > exclusive and look down upon the traditional ones, work. The Makers > > of this Software consider themselves as Masters of KP. > > > > I got my own chart made from their software to oblige some > astrologer > > and was studying > > the 3rd and 4th Sub Lords of the Planet Rahu . After a long time I > > had been able to > > break the mystery of Rahu (Still Not Sure), as my own Rahu > MahaDasha > > was due to start shortly. Uptil the Nakshatra level, the software > > showed right results. But the Sublord > > and Sub SubLord, (which form a very important clue to give results > of > > any planet ) > > showed results which were very distressing. I was disheartened. > Then > > I took out one > > more chart of mines made from another software, which showed > > different > > degrees of Rahu as to what this new software had given me in > > printout. Now I was > > completely in a fix not knowing what to do as the new software was > > considered to be the best. Suddenly I got a idea, I took out the > > Rapheals Ephemeris, > > and did the calculation manually and found that the new Software > was > > wrong. > > Which means wrong feeding had been done in their software. Now even > > for a slow > > moving planet if they are not able to show proper results than what > > about the Moon ? > > > > I took the new and old chart to my Guru, who checked the degrees of > > Rahu in my > > Birth year in his old tattered Indian panchangs and confirmed that > I > > was right. he also > > showed me the totally contrary results if I had followed the new > > chart and not been > > good enough to observe. > > > > This is the state of affairs in the market. Fortunately the new > > Updated Version of > > this Software does not have the problem. But what about the old > one ? > > How many > > all over India must be using the same and giving wrong > predictions ? > > Such > > type of practises (Whether done purposely or by mistake does > > not matter) is akin to mixing poison - powder in food grains and > > selling to > > un-suspecting people. God knows how many astrologers must have > > purchased > > that software (2002 version) and not able to read right ? Here it > was > > my > > own chart so I went deep in checking otherwise those who sell > > Computer Kundlis, and those who read for others, why would they > > check all this ? And they pride themselves as KP Softwares where > > its most important to give proper calculations upto 4th level of > Sub > > Sub > > because the whole reading is based on minute divisons of the > > Nakshatra > > portions or amshas. > > > > So ultimately its back to square one. Nothing better than our > Pandits > > of yore.They were the best. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > , Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om@> > > wrote: > > > > > > I checked out this "SOFTWARE" > > > It is just run of the mill "Me too" software. > > > Nothing "Durlabh" about it. > > > > > > Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > Dear Kumar ji, > > > > > > Why else would there be so many versions and updates, each > promising > > > yet more and not fulfilling and creating errors in areas where in > > > earlier versions there were none! Each upgrade costs quite a bit > too > > > -- typically 1/4th of the original cost which may be quite > > > considerable for some of us. > > > > > > It is a catch-22. The programmer has to make a living and given > the > > > rather frail market as far as jyotish software is concerned -- not > > > enough to sustain even those who claim to do it for the love of > it > > and > > > live a monastic lifestyle (and some really do!). And, truth be > told, > > > most of us jyotishis and part-time jyotishis do need these > software > > > packages and it helps make our life easier (or enables us to have > a > > > 'life'!). > > > > > > Perhaps it is all a sign of the times (Kaliyuga). > > > > > > The traditional adage has been: Let us grin and bear it! > > > > > > The modern internet version that I propose is: Let us VENT but > > SUSTAIN it! > > > > > > RR > > > And then there is the issue about some programmers experiencing > > > fluctuating health and energy levels--- In > > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Tatvam-asi > > > > I am sure h meant priceless, rare or its type as a marketing > ploy, > > > but then unles it is proven who can say this. > > > > > > > > every s/w so far written has diferent errors, bugs limitatios so > > > nothing is final > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om@> wrote: > > > What is Durlabh's Kundali software? > > > > > > > > Never heard of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nitesh pathak <nitesh_pat1@> wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > Almost everybody is familier with the DURLABH's KUNDLI > software., > > > Now I want to know that where and how to look for the most > possible > > > time for a person to get married. I mean how to know that when the > > > personis likely to be married. Is it in yogini mahadasha or in > > yogini > > > pratyantar dasha. Please guide. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Nitesh > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - > Answers > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Sir, When one chooses a number between 1-249, each number has a seperate Lagna with degrees alloted to it. But in this software the map of the Kundli does not change the Lagna at the time when Prashna is made according to the number. But the house which is Lagna is mentioned seperately.So what happens though the Prashna Lagna may be Taurus but the Chart onscreen may be showing some other Raashi as Lagna, and one has to calculate mentally while looking for certain aspects in the chart,and theres every possibility of mistaking once in a while some other house as the one we wish to study. Also the cusps mentioned on the right hand side 1 to 12 do not change in order of Lagna as per number. here also the same chance of committing mistake is there. Also the significators chart is not there for one to check at a glance what planet signifies what.So this too one has to do manually. But yet this is the mother of all softwares and one does not see the defects in his mother,more than necessary. And You have rightly said one cannot really impose such demands and expectations on freeware and shareware which are labours of love and acts of charity. regards, Bhaskar. , "Rohiniranjan" <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Bhaskar ji, > > For the benefit of the forum, would you care to share a bit more? Does > prashna not work for you or this particular software when used for > prashna? It would help us all because it is obvious that many > individuals use prashna techniques quite a bit and often. Some of them > may be using this software and probably could be helped by your sharings. > > It is sad though that after jyotish software (including commercial > ones) have been on the since since 80s, there remain problems > sometimes major ones today, 20+ years later! > > I am strictly talking about commercial software and cannot really > impose such demands and expectations on freeware and shareware which > are labours of love and acts of charity. > > RR > > , "Bhaskar" > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear Dolatji, > > > > Yes I have been using this for last one year, but for Prashna Jyotish > > it does not work for me. This is no doubt the best softwares > > available on Net for downloading and the great blessings from > > thousands must have accrued to the owners including mines, for their > > service to the astrologer community. They have been magnamonius > > in sharing with the public,and I bow to them. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , neela bagaria > > <neelabagaria@> wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskarji > > > One of the detailed software is free available to down load > > > name JAGGANNATH HORA > > > download the same i think it is the best detailed calculation > > > one should know how to read it > > > dolat > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > Yes I cannot say that any Software is complete. > > > > > > This took place about 6-8 months before. > > > A famous company well known all over India to astrologers,and also > > > specialising in KP Softwares, its a shame that I had a bad > > experience > > > with them. This company also has a Forum on KP among the > > Astrological > > > Forums where great self-confessed astrologers who think that they > > are > > > exclusive and look down upon the traditional ones, work. The Makers > > > of this Software consider themselves as Masters of KP. > > > > > > I got my own chart made from their software to oblige some > > astrologer > > > and was studying > > > the 3rd and 4th Sub Lords of the Planet Rahu . After a long time I > > > had been able to > > > break the mystery of Rahu (Still Not Sure), as my own Rahu > > MahaDasha > > > was due to start shortly. Uptil the Nakshatra level, the software > > > showed right results. But the Sublord > > > and Sub SubLord, (which form a very important clue to give results > > of > > > any planet ) > > > showed results which were very distressing. I was disheartened. > > Then > > > I took out one > > > more chart of mines made from another software, which showed > > > different > > > degrees of Rahu as to what this new software had given me in > > > printout. Now I was > > > completely in a fix not knowing what to do as the new software was > > > considered to be the best. Suddenly I got a idea, I took out the > > > Rapheals Ephemeris, > > > and did the calculation manually and found that the new Software > > was > > > wrong. > > > Which means wrong feeding had been done in their software. Now even > > > for a slow > > > moving planet if they are not able to show proper results than what > > > about the Moon ? > > > > > > I took the new and old chart to my Guru, who checked the degrees of > > > Rahu in my > > > Birth year in his old tattered Indian panchangs and confirmed that > > I > > > was right. he also > > > showed me the totally contrary results if I had followed the new > > > chart and not been > > > good enough to observe. > > > > > > This is the state of affairs in the market. Fortunately the new > > > Updated Version of > > > this Software does not have the problem. But what about the old > > one ? > > > How many > > > all over India must be using the same and giving wrong > > predictions ? > > > Such > > > type of practises (Whether done purposely or by mistake does > > > not matter) is akin to mixing poison - powder in food grains and > > > selling to > > > un-suspecting people. God knows how many astrologers must have > > > purchased > > > that software (2002 version) and not able to read right ? Here it > > was > > > my > > > own chart so I went deep in checking otherwise those who sell > > > Computer Kundlis, and those who read for others, why would they > > > check all this ? And they pride themselves as KP Softwares where > > > its most important to give proper calculations upto 4th level of > > Sub > > > Sub > > > because the whole reading is based on minute divisons of the > > > Nakshatra > > > portions or amshas. > > > > > > So ultimately its back to square one. Nothing better than our > > Pandits > > > of yore.They were the best. > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I checked out this "SOFTWARE" > > > > It is just run of the mill "Me too" software. > > > > Nothing "Durlabh" about it. > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Dear Kumar ji, > > > > > > > > Why else would there be so many versions and updates, each > > promising > > > > yet more and not fulfilling and creating errors in areas where in > > > > earlier versions there were none! Each upgrade costs quite a bit > > too > > > > -- typically 1/4th of the original cost which may be quite > > > > considerable for some of us. > > > > > > > > It is a catch-22. The programmer has to make a living and given > > the > > > > rather frail market as far as jyotish software is concerned -- not > > > > enough to sustain even those who claim to do it for the love of > > it > > > and > > > > live a monastic lifestyle (and some really do!). And, truth be > > told, > > > > most of us jyotishis and part-time jyotishis do need these > > software > > > > packages and it helps make our life easier (or enables us to have > > a > > > > 'life'!). > > > > > > > > Perhaps it is all a sign of the times (Kaliyuga). > > > > > > > > The traditional adage has been: Let us grin and bear it! > > > > > > > > The modern internet version that I propose is: Let us VENT but > > > SUSTAIN it! > > > > > > > > RR > > > > And then there is the issue about some programmers experiencing > > > > fluctuating health and energy levels--- In > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tatvam-asi > > > > > I am sure h meant priceless, rare or its type as a marketing > > ploy, > > > > but then unles it is proven who can say this. > > > > > > > > > > every s/w so far written has diferent errors, bugs limitatios so > > > > nothing is final > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om@> wrote: > > > > What is Durlabh's Kundali software? > > > > > > > > > > Never heard of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nitesh pathak <nitesh_pat1@> wrote: > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > Almost everybody is familier with the DURLABH's KUNDLI > > software., > > > > Now I want to know that where and how to look for the most > > possible > > > > time for a person to get married. I mean how to know that when the > > > > personis likely to be married. Is it in yogini mahadasha or in > > > yogini > > > > pratyantar dasha. Please guide. > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Nitesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - > > Answers > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Dear Sri Bhaskar, Perhaps if you present the chart as is with you,we can appreciate your view point.In KP ayanamsa, there are few variants too . Regards, Satish , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Sir, > > When one chooses a number between 1-249, each number has a > seperate Lagna with degrees alloted to it. But in this > software the map of the Kundli does not change the Lagna at > the time when Prashna is made according to the number. But > the house which is Lagna is mentioned seperately.So > what happens though the Prashna Lagna may be Taurus but the > Chart onscreen may be showing some other Raashi as Lagna, > and one has to calculate mentally while looking for > certain aspects in the chart,and theres every possibility > of mistaking once in a while some other house as the one > we wish to study. > > Also the cusps mentioned on the right hand side 1 to 12 do > not change in order of Lagna as per number. here also > the same chance of committing mistake is there. > > Also the significators chart is not there for one to > check at a glance what planet signifies what.So this too > one has to do manually. > > But yet this is the mother of all softwares > and one does not see the defects in his mother,more than > necessary. > > And You have rightly said one cannot really impose such > demands and expectations on freeware and shareware which > are labours of love and acts of charity. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Bhaskar ji, > > > > For the benefit of the forum, would you care to share a bit more? > Does > > prashna not work for you or this particular software when used for > > prashna? It would help us all because it is obvious that many > > individuals use prashna techniques quite a bit and often. Some of > them > > may be using this software and probably could be helped by your > sharings. > > > > It is sad though that after jyotish software (including commercial > > ones) have been on the since since 80s, there remain problems > > sometimes major ones today, 20+ years later! > > > > I am strictly talking about commercial software and cannot really > > impose such demands and expectations on freeware and shareware which > > are labours of love and acts of charity. > > > > RR > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Dolatji, > > > > > > Yes I have been using this for last one year, but for Prashna > Jyotish > > > it does not work for me. This is no doubt the best softwares > > > available on Net for downloading and the great blessings from > > > thousands must have accrued to the owners including mines, for > their > > > service to the astrologer community. They have been magnamonius > > > in sharing with the public,and I bow to them. > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , neela bagaria > > > <neelabagaria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji > > > > One of the detailed software is free available to down load > > > > name JAGGANNATH HORA > > > > download the same i think it is the best detailed calculation > > > > one should know how to read it > > > > dolat > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Yes I cannot say that any Software is complete. > > > > > > > > This took place about 6-8 months before. > > > > A famous company well known all over India to astrologers,and > also > > > > specialising in KP Softwares, its a shame that I had a bad > > > experience > > > > with them. This company also has a Forum on KP among the > > > Astrological > > > > Forums where great self-confessed astrologers who think that > they > > > are > > > > exclusive and look down upon the traditional ones, work. The > Makers > > > > of this Software consider themselves as Masters of KP. > > > > > > > > I got my own chart made from their software to oblige some > > > astrologer > > > > and was studying > > > > the 3rd and 4th Sub Lords of the Planet Rahu . After a long > time I > > > > had been able to > > > > break the mystery of Rahu (Still Not Sure), as my own Rahu > > > MahaDasha > > > > was due to start shortly. Uptil the Nakshatra level, the > software > > > > showed right results. But the Sublord > > > > and Sub SubLord, (which form a very important clue to give > results > > > of > > > > any planet ) > > > > showed results which were very distressing. I was disheartened. > > > Then > > > > I took out one > > > > more chart of mines made from another software, which showed > > > > different > > > > degrees of Rahu as to what this new software had given me in > > > > printout. Now I was > > > > completely in a fix not knowing what to do as the new software > was > > > > considered to be the best. Suddenly I got a idea, I took out > the > > > > Rapheals Ephemeris, > > > > and did the calculation manually and found that the new > Software > > > was > > > > wrong. > > > > Which means wrong feeding had been done in their software. Now > even > > > > for a slow > > > > moving planet if they are not able to show proper results than > what > > > > about the Moon ? > > > > > > > > I took the new and old chart to my Guru, who checked the > degrees of > > > > Rahu in my > > > > Birth year in his old tattered Indian panchangs and confirmed > that > > > I > > > > was right. he also > > > > showed me the totally contrary results if I had followed the > new > > > > chart and not been > > > > good enough to observe. > > > > > > > > This is the state of affairs in the market. Fortunately the new > > > > Updated Version of > > > > this Software does not have the problem. But what about the old > > > one ? > > > > How many > > > > all over India must be using the same and giving wrong > > > predictions ? > > > > Such > > > > type of practises (Whether done purposely or by mistake does > > > > not matter) is akin to mixing poison - powder in food grains > and > > > > selling to > > > > un-suspecting people. God knows how many astrologers must have > > > > purchased > > > > that software (2002 version) and not able to read right ? Here > it > > > was > > > > my > > > > own chart so I went deep in checking otherwise those who sell > > > > Computer Kundlis, and those who read for others, why would they > > > > check all this ? And they pride themselves as KP Softwares where > > > > its most important to give proper calculations upto 4th level > of > > > Sub > > > > Sub > > > > because the whole reading is based on minute divisons of the > > > > Nakshatra > > > > portions or amshas. > > > > > > > > So ultimately its back to square one. Nothing better than our > > > Pandits > > > > of yore.They were the best. > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , Tatvamasi > <om_tatsat_om@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I checked out this "SOFTWARE" > > > > > It is just run of the mill "Me too" software. > > > > > Nothing "Durlabh" about it. > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Kumar ji, > > > > > > > > > > Why else would there be so many versions and updates, each > > > promising > > > > > yet more and not fulfilling and creating errors in areas > where in > > > > > earlier versions there were none! Each upgrade costs quite a > bit > > > too > > > > > -- typically 1/4th of the original cost which may be quite > > > > > considerable for some of us. > > > > > > > > > > It is a catch-22. The programmer has to make a living and > given > > > the > > > > > rather frail market as far as jyotish software is concerned -- > not > > > > > enough to sustain even those who claim to do it for the love > of > > > it > > > > and > > > > > live a monastic lifestyle (and some really do!). And, truth > be > > > told, > > > > > most of us jyotishis and part-time jyotishis do need these > > > software > > > > > packages and it helps make our life easier (or enables us to > have > > > a > > > > > 'life'!). > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps it is all a sign of the times (Kaliyuga). > > > > > > > > > > The traditional adage has been: Let us grin and bear it! > > > > > > > > > > The modern internet version that I propose is: Let us VENT > but > > > > SUSTAIN it! > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > And then there is the issue about some programmers > experiencing > > > > > fluctuating health and energy levels--- In > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tatvam-asi > > > > > > I am sure h meant priceless, rare or its type as a > marketing > > > ploy, > > > > > but then unles it is proven who can say this. > > > > > > > > > > > > every s/w so far written has diferent errors, bugs > limitatios so > > > > > nothing is final > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om@> wrote: > > > > > What is Durlabh's Kundali software? > > > > > > > > > > > > Never heard of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nitesh pathak <nitesh_pat1@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > Almost everybody is familier with the DURLABH's KUNDLI > > > software., > > > > > Now I want to know that where and how to look for the most > > > possible > > > > > time for a person to get married. I mean how to know that > when the > > > > > personis likely to be married. Is it in yogini mahadasha or > in > > > > yogini > > > > > pratyantar dasha. Please guide. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Nitesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - > > > Answers > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Bhaskar ji, I think I understand what you said. So in KP prashna system, the 1-249 numbers are really for each nakshatra sub. Each of these numbers would have a sign lord, star lord and a sub lord (1 will represent ma-ke-ke, 2 would be ma-ke-ve and so on). The software under scrutiny perhaps creates a prashna chart with the actual lagna rising and indicates that the KP ascendant is in ma-ke-ke (if 1 was chosen, for example). So in the taurus rising chart in your example you would have to mentally move everything back by one house (12th becomes 1st, 1st becomes 2nd and so on). You have raised a point which I have always had with commercial software such as Parashara's Light which I use too. In this day and age of computer technology innovation, the programming of even these expensive software looks rather crude and clunky -- so I would not blame a free software for not having all the finesse, particularly for a system that truth be told is not really mainstream (KP can work well though, so I am not challenging the system itself -- just that it is probably not as popular based on how few individuals use it or talk about it, compared to the mainstream majority as per their voices and writings which is all I have to go by.). How difficult would it be for the programmers to introduce some code which allows one to click on a house and have the square or circle remap as the clicked house becoming the 1st house? It would help me so much in some of the research I am doing in which the first house is oriented from certain padas and other derived orientation points? I hope a representative from Geovision is listening! Also, while I have his/her attention, can we expand the 'search' charts screen to identify 'yogas' because that is exactly what is being done as is apprarent from the yoga code flashing when the search is being done! (L1/P7*iD9 (something like that) = find charts with lagna lord or kalatrapada in conjunction in navamsha). RR , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Sir, > > When one chooses a number between 1-249, each number has a > seperate Lagna with degrees alloted to it. But in this > software the map of the Kundli does not change the Lagna at > the time when Prashna is made according to the number. But > the house which is Lagna is mentioned seperately.So > what happens though the Prashna Lagna may be Taurus but the > Chart onscreen may be showing some other Raashi as Lagna, > and one has to calculate mentally while looking for > certain aspects in the chart,and theres every possibility > of mistaking once in a while some other house as the one > we wish to study. > > Also the cusps mentioned on the right hand side 1 to 12 do > not change in order of Lagna as per number. here also > the same chance of committing mistake is there. > > Also the significators chart is not there for one to > check at a glance what planet signifies what.So this too > one has to do manually. > > But yet this is the mother of all softwares > and one does not see the defects in his mother,more than > necessary. > > And You have rightly said one cannot really impose such > demands and expectations on freeware and shareware which > are labours of love and acts of charity. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Bhaskar ji, > > > > For the benefit of the forum, would you care to share a bit more? > Does > > prashna not work for you or this particular software when used for > > prashna? It would help us all because it is obvious that many > > individuals use prashna techniques quite a bit and often. Some of > them > > may be using this software and probably could be helped by your > sharings. > > > > It is sad though that after jyotish software (including commercial > > ones) have been on the since since 80s, there remain problems > > sometimes major ones today, 20+ years later! > > > > I am strictly talking about commercial software and cannot really > > impose such demands and expectations on freeware and shareware which > > are labours of love and acts of charity. > > > > RR > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Dolatji, > > > > > > Yes I have been using this for last one year, but for Prashna > Jyotish > > > it does not work for me. This is no doubt the best softwares > > > available on Net for downloading and the great blessings from > > > thousands must have accrued to the owners including mines, for > their > > > service to the astrologer community. They have been magnamonius > > > in sharing with the public,and I bow to them. > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , neela bagaria > > > <neelabagaria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji > > > > One of the detailed software is free available to down load > > > > name JAGGANNATH HORA > > > > download the same i think it is the best detailed calculation > > > > one should know how to read it > > > > dolat > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Yes I cannot say that any Software is complete. > > > > > > > > This took place about 6-8 months before. > > > > A famous company well known all over India to astrologers,and > also > > > > specialising in KP Softwares, its a shame that I had a bad > > > experience > > > > with them. This company also has a Forum on KP among the > > > Astrological > > > > Forums where great self-confessed astrologers who think that > they > > > are > > > > exclusive and look down upon the traditional ones, work. The > Makers > > > > of this Software consider themselves as Masters of KP. > > > > > > > > I got my own chart made from their software to oblige some > > > astrologer > > > > and was studying > > > > the 3rd and 4th Sub Lords of the Planet Rahu . After a long > time I > > > > had been able to > > > > break the mystery of Rahu (Still Not Sure), as my own Rahu > > > MahaDasha > > > > was due to start shortly. Uptil the Nakshatra level, the > software > > > > showed right results. But the Sublord > > > > and Sub SubLord, (which form a very important clue to give > results > > > of > > > > any planet ) > > > > showed results which were very distressing. I was disheartened. > > > Then > > > > I took out one > > > > more chart of mines made from another software, which showed > > > > different > > > > degrees of Rahu as to what this new software had given me in > > > > printout. Now I was > > > > completely in a fix not knowing what to do as the new software > was > > > > considered to be the best. Suddenly I got a idea, I took out > the > > > > Rapheals Ephemeris, > > > > and did the calculation manually and found that the new > Software > > > was > > > > wrong. > > > > Which means wrong feeding had been done in their software. Now > even > > > > for a slow > > > > moving planet if they are not able to show proper results than > what > > > > about the Moon ? > > > > > > > > I took the new and old chart to my Guru, who checked the > degrees of > > > > Rahu in my > > > > Birth year in his old tattered Indian panchangs and confirmed > that > > > I > > > > was right. he also > > > > showed me the totally contrary results if I had followed the > new > > > > chart and not been > > > > good enough to observe. > > > > > > > > This is the state of affairs in the market. Fortunately the new > > > > Updated Version of > > > > this Software does not have the problem. But what about the old > > > one ? > > > > How many > > > > all over India must be using the same and giving wrong > > > predictions ? > > > > Such > > > > type of practises (Whether done purposely or by mistake does > > > > not matter) is akin to mixing poison - powder in food grains > and > > > > selling to > > > > un-suspecting people. God knows how many astrologers must have > > > > purchased > > > > that software (2002 version) and not able to read right ? Here > it > > > was > > > > my > > > > own chart so I went deep in checking otherwise those who sell > > > > Computer Kundlis, and those who read for others, why would they > > > > check all this ? And they pride themselves as KP Softwares where > > > > its most important to give proper calculations upto 4th level > of > > > Sub > > > > Sub > > > > because the whole reading is based on minute divisons of the > > > > Nakshatra > > > > portions or amshas. > > > > > > > > So ultimately its back to square one. Nothing better than our > > > Pandits > > > > of yore.They were the best. > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , Tatvamasi > <om_tatsat_om@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I checked out this "SOFTWARE" > > > > > It is just run of the mill "Me too" software. > > > > > Nothing "Durlabh" about it. > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > Dear Kumar ji, > > > > > > > > > > Why else would there be so many versions and updates, each > > > promising > > > > > yet more and not fulfilling and creating errors in areas > where in > > > > > earlier versions there were none! Each upgrade costs quite a > bit > > > too > > > > > -- typically 1/4th of the original cost which may be quite > > > > > considerable for some of us. > > > > > > > > > > It is a catch-22. The programmer has to make a living and > given > > > the > > > > > rather frail market as far as jyotish software is concerned -- > not > > > > > enough to sustain even those who claim to do it for the love > of > > > it > > > > and > > > > > live a monastic lifestyle (and some really do!). And, truth > be > > > told, > > > > > most of us jyotishis and part-time jyotishis do need these > > > software > > > > > packages and it helps make our life easier (or enables us to > have > > > a > > > > > 'life'!). > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps it is all a sign of the times (Kaliyuga). > > > > > > > > > > The traditional adage has been: Let us grin and bear it! > > > > > > > > > > The modern internet version that I propose is: Let us VENT > but > > > > SUSTAIN it! > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > And then there is the issue about some programmers > experiencing > > > > > fluctuating health and energy levels--- In > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > <gbp_kumar@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tatvam-asi > > > > > > I am sure h meant priceless, rare or its type as a > marketing > > > ploy, > > > > > but then unles it is proven who can say this. > > > > > > > > > > > > every s/w so far written has diferent errors, bugs > limitatios so > > > > > nothing is final > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om@> wrote: > > > > > What is Durlabh's Kundali software? > > > > > > > > > > > > Never heard of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nitesh pathak <nitesh_pat1@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > Almost everybody is familier with the DURLABH's KUNDLI > > > software., > > > > > Now I want to know that where and how to look for the most > > > possible > > > > > time for a person to get married. I mean how to know that > when the > > > > > personis likely to be married. Is it in yogini mahadasha or > in > > > > yogini > > > > > pratyantar dasha. Please guide. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Nitesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - > > > Answers > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2007 Report Share Posted February 3, 2007 Shri RRji, I have always admired your intelligence and perception powers. You have understood what I meant to say, very well exactly as I wished to, but could not word it properly as one other reader pointed out that I should illustrate with a chart. That would have been too much on my energies and time, so I let that mail pass. To remove the problem in question,I just purchased a software costing Rs.5000- from AstroCamp Kismat 2005 (earlier version is having faulty readings).here the Prashna Lagna shows exactly the Lagna of the Number chosen,in the first house and no need for rotation, mental or otherwise. They also give the Significators chart on one page which is enough to give reading on a broad base for whole life of a native, within maximum few minutes (When Natal Chart is made). For Prashna also the same process is ther and one need not take access to pen or paper for reading out results, if one knows how to read the significators table. I have not explored this software fully for its utilities for want of spare time though its with me since last 6 months. But it has got other wonderful features. Also you were right about your understanding of Sign Lord, Star Lord and SubLord as shown in the software results. Bhaskar. , "Rohiniranjan" <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Bhaskar ji, > > I think I understand what you said. So in KP prashna system, the 1- 249 > numbers are really for each nakshatra sub. Each of these numbers would > have a sign lord, star lord and a sub lord (1 will represent ma-ke- ke, > 2 would be ma-ke-ve and so on). The software under scrutiny perhaps > creates a prashna chart with the actual lagna rising and indicates > that the KP ascendant is in ma-ke-ke (if 1 was chosen, for example). > So in the taurus rising chart in your example you would have to > mentally move everything back by one house (12th becomes 1st, 1st > becomes 2nd and so on). > > You have raised a point which I have always had with commercial > software such as Parashara's Light which I use too. In this day and > age of computer technology innovation, the programming of even these > expensive software looks rather crude and clunky -- so I would not > blame a free software for not having all the finesse, particularly for > a system that truth be told is not really mainstream (KP can work well > though, so I am not challenging the system itself -- just that it is > probably not as popular based on how few individuals use it or talk > about it, compared to the mainstream majority as per their voices and > writings which is all I have to go by.). > > How difficult would it be for the programmers to introduce some code > which allows one to click on a house and have the square or circle > remap as the clicked house becoming the 1st house? It would help me so > much in some of the research I am doing in which the first house is > oriented from certain padas and other derived orientation points? > > I hope a representative from Geovision is listening! Also, while I > have his/her attention, can we expand the 'search' charts screen to > identify 'yogas' because that is exactly what is being done as is > apprarent from the yoga code flashing when the search is being done! > (L1/P7*iD9 (something like that) = find charts with lagna lord or > kalatrapada in conjunction in navamsha). > > RR > > , "Bhaskar" > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Sir, > > > > When one chooses a number between 1-249, each number has a > > seperate Lagna with degrees alloted to it. But in this > > software the map of the Kundli does not change the Lagna at > > the time when Prashna is made according to the number. But > > the house which is Lagna is mentioned seperately.So > > what happens though the Prashna Lagna may be Taurus but the > > Chart onscreen may be showing some other Raashi as Lagna, > > and one has to calculate mentally while looking for > > certain aspects in the chart,and theres every possibility > > of mistaking once in a while some other house as the one > > we wish to study. > > > > Also the cusps mentioned on the right hand side 1 to 12 do > > not change in order of Lagna as per number. here also > > the same chance of committing mistake is there. > > > > Also the significators chart is not there for one to > > check at a glance what planet signifies what.So this too > > one has to do manually. > > > > But yet this is the mother of all softwares > > and one does not see the defects in his mother,more than > > necessary. > > > > And You have rightly said one cannot really impose such > > demands and expectations on freeware and shareware which > > are labours of love and acts of charity. > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > For the benefit of the forum, would you care to share a bit more? > > Does > > > prashna not work for you or this particular software when used for > > > prashna? It would help us all because it is obvious that many > > > individuals use prashna techniques quite a bit and often. Some of > > them > > > may be using this software and probably could be helped by your > > sharings. > > > > > > It is sad though that after jyotish software (including commercial > > > ones) have been on the since since 80s, there remain problems > > > sometimes major ones today, 20+ years later! > > > > > > I am strictly talking about commercial software and cannot really > > > impose such demands and expectations on freeware and shareware which > > > are labours of love and acts of charity. > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Dolatji, > > > > > > > > Yes I have been using this for last one year, but for Prashna > > Jyotish > > > > it does not work for me. This is no doubt the best softwares > > > > available on Net for downloading and the great blessings from > > > > thousands must have accrued to the owners including mines, for > > their > > > > service to the astrologer community. They have been magnamonius > > > > in sharing with the public,and I bow to them. > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , neela bagaria > > > > <neelabagaria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji > > > > > One of the detailed software is free available to down load > > > > > name JAGGANNATH HORA > > > > > download the same i think it is the best detailed calculation > > > > > one should know how to read it > > > > > dolat > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > Yes I cannot say that any Software is complete. > > > > > > > > > > This took place about 6-8 months before. > > > > > A famous company well known all over India to astrologers,and > > also > > > > > specialising in KP Softwares, its a shame that I had a bad > > > > experience > > > > > with them. This company also has a Forum on KP among the > > > > Astrological > > > > > Forums where great self-confessed astrologers who think that > > they > > > > are > > > > > exclusive and look down upon the traditional ones, work. The > > Makers > > > > > of this Software consider themselves as Masters of KP. > > > > > > > > > > I got my own chart made from their software to oblige some > > > > astrologer > > > > > and was studying > > > > > the 3rd and 4th Sub Lords of the Planet Rahu . After a long > > time I > > > > > had been able to > > > > > break the mystery of Rahu (Still Not Sure), as my own Rahu > > > > MahaDasha > > > > > was due to start shortly. Uptil the Nakshatra level, the > > software > > > > > showed right results. But the Sublord > > > > > and Sub SubLord, (which form a very important clue to give > > results > > > > of > > > > > any planet ) > > > > > showed results which were very distressing. I was disheartened. > > > > Then > > > > > I took out one > > > > > more chart of mines made from another software, which showed > > > > > different > > > > > degrees of Rahu as to what this new software had given me in > > > > > printout. Now I was > > > > > completely in a fix not knowing what to do as the new software > > was > > > > > considered to be the best. Suddenly I got a idea, I took out > > the > > > > > Rapheals Ephemeris, > > > > > and did the calculation manually and found that the new > > Software > > > > was > > > > > wrong. > > > > > Which means wrong feeding had been done in their software. Now > > even > > > > > for a slow > > > > > moving planet if they are not able to show proper results than > > what > > > > > about the Moon ? > > > > > > > > > > I took the new and old chart to my Guru, who checked the > > degrees of > > > > > Rahu in my > > > > > Birth year in his old tattered Indian panchangs and confirmed > > that > > > > I > > > > > was right. he also > > > > > showed me the totally contrary results if I had followed the > > new > > > > > chart and not been > > > > > good enough to observe. > > > > > > > > > > This is the state of affairs in the market. Fortunately the new > > > > > Updated Version of > > > > > this Software does not have the problem. But what about the old > > > > one ? > > > > > How many > > > > > all over India must be using the same and giving wrong > > > > predictions ? > > > > > Such > > > > > type of practises (Whether done purposely or by mistake does > > > > > not matter) is akin to mixing poison - powder in food grains > > and > > > > > selling to > > > > > un-suspecting people. God knows how many astrologers must have > > > > > purchased > > > > > that software (2002 version) and not able to read right ? Here > > it > > > > was > > > > > my > > > > > own chart so I went deep in checking otherwise those who sell > > > > > Computer Kundlis, and those who read for others, why would they > > > > > check all this ? And they pride themselves as KP Softwares where > > > > > its most important to give proper calculations upto 4th level > > of > > > > Sub > > > > > Sub > > > > > because the whole reading is based on minute divisons of the > > > > > Nakshatra > > > > > portions or amshas. > > > > > > > > > > So ultimately its back to square one. Nothing better than our > > > > Pandits > > > > > of yore.They were the best. > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , Tatvamasi > > <om_tatsat_om@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I checked out this "SOFTWARE" > > > > > > It is just run of the mill "Me too" software. > > > > > > Nothing "Durlabh" about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Kumar ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Why else would there be so many versions and updates, each > > > > promising > > > > > > yet more and not fulfilling and creating errors in areas > > where in > > > > > > earlier versions there were none! Each upgrade costs quite a > > bit > > > > too > > > > > > -- typically 1/4th of the original cost which may be quite > > > > > > considerable for some of us. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a catch-22. The programmer has to make a living and > > given > > > > the > > > > > > rather frail market as far as jyotish software is concerned -- > > not > > > > > > enough to sustain even those who claim to do it for the love > > of > > > > it > > > > > and > > > > > > live a monastic lifestyle (and some really do!). And, truth > > be > > > > told, > > > > > > most of us jyotishis and part-time jyotishis do need these > > > > software > > > > > > packages and it helps make our life easier (or enables us to > > have > > > > a > > > > > > 'life'!). > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps it is all a sign of the times (Kaliyuga). > > > > > > > > > > > > The traditional adage has been: Let us grin and bear it! > > > > > > > > > > > > The modern internet version that I propose is: Let us VENT > > but > > > > > SUSTAIN it! > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > And then there is the issue about some programmers > > experiencing > > > > > > fluctuating health and energy levels--- In > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > <gbp_kumar@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tatvam-asi > > > > > > > I am sure h meant priceless, rare or its type as a > > marketing > > > > ploy, > > > > > > but then unles it is proven who can say this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > every s/w so far written has diferent errors, bugs > > limitatios so > > > > > > nothing is final > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om@> wrote: > > > > > > What is Durlabh's Kundali software? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never heard of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nitesh pathak <nitesh_pat1@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Almost everybody is familier with the DURLABH's KUNDLI > > > > software., > > > > > > Now I want to know that where and how to look for the most > > > > possible > > > > > > time for a person to get married. I mean how to know that > > when the > > > > > > personis likely to be married. Is it in yogini mahadasha or > > in > > > > > yogini > > > > > > pratyantar dasha. Please guide. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Nitesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - > > > > Answers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Is it Durlubh or Dur-laabh? Rare or just a bribe? Hindi is so complex when presented in english! Like those sanskrit transliterations that make a hindu boy like me get scared that I am reading a foreign language! All those diatribe marks and so on :-( It kept me away from so many valuable texts written in the baby- boomer years by Indian saints and spiritualists because the books were written for the western consumer! There I go again ... Rohiniranjan , Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om wrote: > > I checked out this "SOFTWARE" > It is just run of the mill "Me too" software. > Nothing "Durlabh" about it. > > Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani wrote: > Dear Kumar ji, > > Why else would there be so many versions and updates, each promising > yet more and not fulfilling and creating errors in areas where in > earlier versions there were none! Each upgrade costs quite a bit too > -- typically 1/4th of the original cost which may be quite > considerable for some of us. > > It is a catch-22. The programmer has to make a living and given the > rather frail market as far as jyotish software is concerned -- not > enough to sustain even those who claim to do it for the love of it and > live a monastic lifestyle (and some really do!). And, truth be told, > most of us jyotishis and part-time jyotishis do need these software > packages and it helps make our life easier (or enables us to have a > 'life'!). > > Perhaps it is all a sign of the times (Kaliyuga). > > The traditional adage has been: Let us grin and bear it! > > The modern internet version that I propose is: Let us VENT but SUSTAIN it! > > RR > And then there is the issue about some programmers experiencing > fluctuating health and energy levels--- In > , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Tatvam-asi > > I am sure h meant priceless, rare or its type as a marketing ploy, > but then unles it is proven who can say this. > > > > every s/w so far written has diferent errors, bugs limitatios so > nothing is final > > > > > > Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om@> wrote: > What is Durlabh's Kundali software? > > > > Never heard of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nitesh pathak <nitesh_pat1@> wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > Almost everybody is familier with the DURLABH's KUNDLI software., > Now I want to know that where and how to look for the most possible > time for a person to get married. I mean how to know that when the > personis likely to be married. Is it in yogini mahadasha or in yogini > pratyantar dasha. Please guide. > > > > Regards > > Nitesh > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Dear Bhaskar ji, Your kindness bothers me! It may introduce arrogance into my humble reality, just as a cashew nut kindly tossed by a passing king into the bowl of a poor man's porridge/sattu may motivate the latter into wanting a better life WHEN all he was born into this reality was to receive alms and whatever else poor men are destined to receive in their chosen current lifetimes! This may be irrelevant but have you ever wondered why soldiers in making during their training with their compatriots -- ones who will eventually fight in the same army fighting the same enemy and even ending up giving up their lieve for their comrades and training buddies -- are during training pitted against the same training buddies, against each other, without killing each other during the training! Interesting concept, isn't it? Rohiniranjan , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Shri RRji, > > I have always admired your intelligence and perception powers. > > You have understood what I meant to say, very well exactly as I > wished to, but could not word it properly as one other reader > pointed out that I should illustrate with a chart. That > would have been too much on my energies and time, so I let that > mail pass. > > To remove the problem in question,I just purchased a software > costing Rs.5000- from AstroCamp Kismat 2005 (earlier > version is having faulty readings).here the Prashna > Lagna shows exactly the Lagna of the Number chosen,in the first > house and no need for rotation, mental or otherwise. > They also give the Significators chart on one page which is > enough to give reading on a broad base for whole life of a native, > within maximum few minutes (When Natal Chart is made). > For Prashna also the same process is ther and one need not take > access to pen or paper for reading out results, if one knows how > to read the significators table. > > I have not explored this software fully for its utilities for > want of spare time though its with me since last 6 months. > But it has got other wonderful features. > > Also you were right about your understanding of Sign Lord, > Star Lord and SubLord as shown in the software results. > > Bhaskar. > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Bhaskar ji, > > > > I think I understand what you said. So in KP prashna system, the 1- > 249 > > numbers are really for each nakshatra sub. Each of these numbers > would > > have a sign lord, star lord and a sub lord (1 will represent ma- ke- > ke, > > 2 would be ma-ke-ve and so on). The software under scrutiny perhaps > > creates a prashna chart with the actual lagna rising and indicates > > that the KP ascendant is in ma-ke-ke (if 1 was chosen, for example). > > So in the taurus rising chart in your example you would have to > > mentally move everything back by one house (12th becomes 1st, 1st > > becomes 2nd and so on). > > > > You have raised a point which I have always had with commercial > > software such as Parashara's Light which I use too. In this day and > > age of computer technology innovation, the programming of even these > > expensive software looks rather crude and clunky -- so I would not > > blame a free software for not having all the finesse, particularly > for > > a system that truth be told is not really mainstream (KP can work > well > > though, so I am not challenging the system itself -- just that it is > > probably not as popular based on how few individuals use it or talk > > about it, compared to the mainstream majority as per their voices > and > > writings which is all I have to go by.). > > > > How difficult would it be for the programmers to introduce some code > > which allows one to click on a house and have the square or circle > > remap as the clicked house becoming the 1st house? It would help me > so > > much in some of the research I am doing in which the first house is > > oriented from certain padas and other derived orientation points? > > > > I hope a representative from Geovision is listening! Also, while I > > have his/her attention, can we expand the 'search' charts screen to > > identify 'yogas' because that is exactly what is being done as is > > apprarent from the yoga code flashing when the search is being done! > > (L1/P7*iD9 (something like that) = find charts with lagna lord or > > kalatrapada in conjunction in navamsha). > > > > RR > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > When one chooses a number between 1-249, each number has a > > > seperate Lagna with degrees alloted to it. But in this > > > software the map of the Kundli does not change the Lagna at > > > the time when Prashna is made according to the number. But > > > the house which is Lagna is mentioned seperately.So > > > what happens though the Prashna Lagna may be Taurus but the > > > Chart onscreen may be showing some other Raashi as Lagna, > > > and one has to calculate mentally while looking for > > > certain aspects in the chart,and theres every possibility > > > of mistaking once in a while some other house as the one > > > we wish to study. > > > > > > Also the cusps mentioned on the right hand side 1 to 12 do > > > not change in order of Lagna as per number. here also > > > the same chance of committing mistake is there. > > > > > > Also the significators chart is not there for one to > > > check at a glance what planet signifies what.So this too > > > one has to do manually. > > > > > > But yet this is the mother of all softwares > > > and one does not see the defects in his mother,more than > > > necessary. > > > > > > And You have rightly said one cannot really impose such > > > demands and expectations on freeware and shareware which > > > are labours of love and acts of charity. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > For the benefit of the forum, would you care to share a bit > more? > > > Does > > > > prashna not work for you or this particular software when used > for > > > > prashna? It would help us all because it is obvious that many > > > > individuals use prashna techniques quite a bit and often. Some > of > > > them > > > > may be using this software and probably could be helped by your > > > sharings. > > > > > > > > It is sad though that after jyotish software (including > commercial > > > > ones) have been on the since since 80s, there remain problems > > > > sometimes major ones today, 20+ years later! > > > > > > > > I am strictly talking about commercial software and cannot > really > > > > impose such demands and expectations on freeware and shareware > which > > > > are labours of love and acts of charity. > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dolatji, > > > > > > > > > > Yes I have been using this for last one year, but for Prashna > > > Jyotish > > > > > it does not work for me. This is no doubt the best softwares > > > > > available on Net for downloading and the great blessings from > > > > > thousands must have accrued to the owners including mines, > for > > > their > > > > > service to the astrologer community. They have been > magnamonius > > > > > in sharing with the public,and I bow to them. > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , neela bagaria > > > > > <neelabagaria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji > > > > > > One of the detailed software is free available to down > load > > > > > > name JAGGANNATH HORA > > > > > > download the same i think it is the best detailed > calculation > > > > > > one should know how to read it > > > > > > dolat > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Yes I cannot say that any Software is complete. > > > > > > > > > > > > This took place about 6-8 months before. > > > > > > A famous company well known all over India to > astrologers,and > > > also > > > > > > specialising in KP Softwares, its a shame that I had a bad > > > > > experience > > > > > > with them. This company also has a Forum on KP among the > > > > > Astrological > > > > > > Forums where great self-confessed astrologers who think > that > > > they > > > > > are > > > > > > exclusive and look down upon the traditional ones, work. > The > > > Makers > > > > > > of this Software consider themselves as Masters of KP. > > > > > > > > > > > > I got my own chart made from their software to oblige some > > > > > astrologer > > > > > > and was studying > > > > > > the 3rd and 4th Sub Lords of the Planet Rahu . After a long > > > time I > > > > > > had been able to > > > > > > break the mystery of Rahu (Still Not Sure), as my own Rahu > > > > > MahaDasha > > > > > > was due to start shortly. Uptil the Nakshatra level, the > > > software > > > > > > showed right results. But the Sublord > > > > > > and Sub SubLord, (which form a very important clue to give > > > results > > > > > of > > > > > > any planet ) > > > > > > showed results which were very distressing. I was > disheartened. > > > > > Then > > > > > > I took out one > > > > > > more chart of mines made from another software, which > showed > > > > > > different > > > > > > degrees of Rahu as to what this new software had given me > in > > > > > > printout. Now I was > > > > > > completely in a fix not knowing what to do as the new > software > > > was > > > > > > considered to be the best. Suddenly I got a idea, I took > out > > > the > > > > > > Rapheals Ephemeris, > > > > > > and did the calculation manually and found that the new > > > Software > > > > > was > > > > > > wrong. > > > > > > Which means wrong feeding had been done in their software. > Now > > > even > > > > > > for a slow > > > > > > moving planet if they are not able to show proper results > than > > > what > > > > > > about the Moon ? > > > > > > > > > > > > I took the new and old chart to my Guru, who checked the > > > degrees of > > > > > > Rahu in my > > > > > > Birth year in his old tattered Indian panchangs and > confirmed > > > that > > > > > I > > > > > > was right. he also > > > > > > showed me the totally contrary results if I had followed > the > > > new > > > > > > chart and not been > > > > > > good enough to observe. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the state of affairs in the market. Fortunately the > new > > > > > > Updated Version of > > > > > > this Software does not have the problem. But what about the > old > > > > > one ? > > > > > > How many > > > > > > all over India must be using the same and giving wrong > > > > > predictions ? > > > > > > Such > > > > > > type of practises (Whether done purposely or by mistake does > > > > > > not matter) is akin to mixing poison - powder in food > grains > > > and > > > > > > selling to > > > > > > un-suspecting people. God knows how many astrologers must > have > > > > > > purchased > > > > > > that software (2002 version) and not able to read right ? > Here > > > it > > > > > was > > > > > > my > > > > > > own chart so I went deep in checking otherwise those who > sell > > > > > > Computer Kundlis, and those who read for others, why would > they > > > > > > check all this ? And they pride themselves as KP Softwares > where > > > > > > its most important to give proper calculations upto 4th > level > > > of > > > > > Sub > > > > > > Sub > > > > > > because the whole reading is based on minute divisons of > the > > > > > > Nakshatra > > > > > > portions or amshas. > > > > > > > > > > > > So ultimately its back to square one. Nothing better than > our > > > > > Pandits > > > > > > of yore.They were the best. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , Tatvamasi > > > <om_tatsat_om@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I checked out this "SOFTWARE" > > > > > > > It is just run of the mill "Me too" software. > > > > > > > Nothing "Durlabh" about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Kumar ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why else would there be so many versions and updates, > each > > > > > promising > > > > > > > yet more and not fulfilling and creating errors in areas > > > where in > > > > > > > earlier versions there were none! Each upgrade costs > quite a > > > bit > > > > > too > > > > > > > -- typically 1/4th of the original cost which may be quite > > > > > > > considerable for some of us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a catch-22. The programmer has to make a living and > > > given > > > > > the > > > > > > > rather frail market as far as jyotish software is > concerned -- > > > not > > > > > > > enough to sustain even those who claim to do it for the > love > > > of > > > > > it > > > > > > and > > > > > > > live a monastic lifestyle (and some really do!). And, > truth > > > be > > > > > told, > > > > > > > most of us jyotishis and part-time jyotishis do need > these > > > > > software > > > > > > > packages and it helps make our life easier (or enables us > to > > > have > > > > > a > > > > > > > 'life'!). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps it is all a sign of the times (Kaliyuga). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The traditional adage has been: Let us grin and bear it! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The modern internet version that I propose is: Let us > VENT > > > but > > > > > > SUSTAIN it! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > And then there is the issue about some programmers > > > experiencing > > > > > > > fluctuating health and energy levels--- In > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > <gbp_kumar@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tatvam-asi > > > > > > > > I am sure h meant priceless, rare or its type as a > > > marketing > > > > > ploy, > > > > > > > but then unles it is proven who can say this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > every s/w so far written has diferent errors, bugs > > > limitatios so > > > > > > > nothing is final > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om@> wrote: > > > > > > > What is Durlabh's Kundali software? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never heard of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nitesh pathak <nitesh_pat1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Almost everybody is familier with the DURLABH's KUNDLI > > > > > software., > > > > > > > Now I want to know that where and how to look for the > most > > > > > possible > > > > > > > time for a person to get married. I mean how to know that > > > when the > > > > > > > personis likely to be married. Is it in yogini mahadasha > or > > > in > > > > > > yogini > > > > > > > pratyantar dasha. Please guide. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Nitesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - > > > > > > Answers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 Shri RR ji, My kindness is always genuine Sir and given to one who deserves it. Not that You need it from a small person like me. The Sun does not need people to compliment for the light shown. It is just there. As per my experience, Arrogance even if it comes, we have enough people around us to throw it on the ground, and the primary people who would do this are our own family members. So let it come, I know no sooner does it come, it will not be long before one of my own kith and kin breaks it. "Joh Dard diya phoolon ne diya, kaanton se shikva kya karen, joh dard diya apnon ne diya, gairon se shikva kya karen." A King and a beggar- This is a relative term for the wise people. A rich man with no goodness in him, no kind act in his life time account, and no love, affection and sympathy in his character may still be the beggar of his zone, while a beggar who is spiritual, just,kind, love for all, helpful and content with whatever he gets as daily alms, may be a king in his own might and right. We have all heard real stories of even great Kings going to people who may be called beggars in the wordly sense,with folded hands, asking for benedictions. I may be a beggar in eyes of my wife and children as I dont earn much monetarily, but those who know me as astrological reader of their charts who consult me regularly, consider and treat me like a King. Every man has his individual worth on this planet,otherwise he would not have been given a human form by the Divine Mother, in the first case. Sorry, but I treat this Forum as my own Home, and first Home so take the liberty of writing Non astrological too.Thanks to Tanvirji for his generousity. The last part of your mail. The excersise given to comrades in arms is just to get them ready for the final showdown, and this practise makes it easier for them when the real thing takes place. Just like the mother of a unwed daughter prepares her daughter to learn cooking and other chores, so that when she is thrown in a inevitable new environment,in a new family, she would be capable enough to manage. Bhaskar. , "Rohiniranjan" <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > Your kindness bothers me! It may introduce arrogance into my humble > reality, just as a cashew nut kindly tossed by a passing king into > the bowl of a poor man's porridge/sattu may motivate the latter into > wanting a better life WHEN all he was born into this reality was to > receive alms and whatever else poor men are destined to receive in > their chosen current lifetimes! > > This may be irrelevant but have you ever wondered why soldiers in > making during their training with their compatriots -- ones who will > eventually fight in the same army fighting the same enemy and even > ending up giving up their lieve for their comrades and training > buddies -- are during training pitted against the same training > buddies, against each other, without killing each other during the > training! > > Interesting concept, isn't it? > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Shri RRji, > > > > I have always admired your intelligence and perception powers. > > > > You have understood what I meant to say, very well exactly as I > > wished to, but could not word it properly as one other reader > > pointed out that I should illustrate with a chart. That > > would have been too much on my energies and time, so I let that > > mail pass. > > > > To remove the problem in question,I just purchased a software > > costing Rs.5000- from AstroCamp Kismat 2005 (earlier > > version is having faulty readings).here the Prashna > > Lagna shows exactly the Lagna of the Number chosen,in the first > > house and no need for rotation, mental or otherwise. > > They also give the Significators chart on one page which is > > enough to give reading on a broad base for whole life of a native, > > within maximum few minutes (When Natal Chart is made). > > For Prashna also the same process is ther and one need not take > > access to pen or paper for reading out results, if one knows how > > to read the significators table. > > > > I have not explored this software fully for its utilities for > > want of spare time though its with me since last 6 months. > > But it has got other wonderful features. > > > > Also you were right about your understanding of Sign Lord, > > Star Lord and SubLord as shown in the software results. > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > I think I understand what you said. So in KP prashna system, the > 1- > > 249 > > > numbers are really for each nakshatra sub. Each of these numbers > > would > > > have a sign lord, star lord and a sub lord (1 will represent ma- > ke- > > ke, > > > 2 would be ma-ke-ve and so on). The software under scrutiny > perhaps > > > creates a prashna chart with the actual lagna rising and indicates > > > that the KP ascendant is in ma-ke-ke (if 1 was chosen, for > example). > > > So in the taurus rising chart in your example you would have to > > > mentally move everything back by one house (12th becomes 1st, 1st > > > becomes 2nd and so on). > > > > > > You have raised a point which I have always had with commercial > > > software such as Parashara's Light which I use too. In this day > and > > > age of computer technology innovation, the programming of even > these > > > expensive software looks rather crude and clunky -- so I would not > > > blame a free software for not having all the finesse, > particularly > > for > > > a system that truth be told is not really mainstream (KP can work > > well > > > though, so I am not challenging the system itself -- just that it > is > > > probably not as popular based on how few individuals use it or > talk > > > about it, compared to the mainstream majority as per their voices > > and > > > writings which is all I have to go by.). > > > > > > How difficult would it be for the programmers to introduce some > code > > > which allows one to click on a house and have the square or circle > > > remap as the clicked house becoming the 1st house? It would help > me > > so > > > much in some of the research I am doing in which the first house > is > > > oriented from certain padas and other derived orientation points? > > > > > > I hope a representative from Geovision is listening! Also, while I > > > have his/her attention, can we expand the 'search' charts screen > to > > > identify 'yogas' because that is exactly what is being done as is > > > apprarent from the yoga code flashing when the search is being > done! > > > (L1/P7*iD9 (something like that) = find charts with lagna lord or > > > kalatrapada in conjunction in navamsha). > > > > > > RR > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > When one chooses a number between 1-249, each number has a > > > > seperate Lagna with degrees alloted to it. But in this > > > > software the map of the Kundli does not change the Lagna at > > > > the time when Prashna is made according to the number. But > > > > the house which is Lagna is mentioned seperately.So > > > > what happens though the Prashna Lagna may be Taurus but the > > > > Chart onscreen may be showing some other Raashi as Lagna, > > > > and one has to calculate mentally while looking for > > > > certain aspects in the chart,and theres every possibility > > > > of mistaking once in a while some other house as the one > > > > we wish to study. > > > > > > > > Also the cusps mentioned on the right hand side 1 to 12 do > > > > not change in order of Lagna as per number. here also > > > > the same chance of committing mistake is there. > > > > > > > > Also the significators chart is not there for one to > > > > check at a glance what planet signifies what.So this too > > > > one has to do manually. > > > > > > > > But yet this is the mother of all softwares > > > > and one does not see the defects in his mother,more than > > > > necessary. > > > > > > > > And You have rightly said one cannot really impose such > > > > demands and expectations on freeware and shareware which > > > > are labours of love and acts of charity. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > > > For the benefit of the forum, would you care to share a bit > > more? > > > > Does > > > > > prashna not work for you or this particular software when > used > > for > > > > > prashna? It would help us all because it is obvious that many > > > > > individuals use prashna techniques quite a bit and often. > Some > > of > > > > them > > > > > may be using this software and probably could be helped by > your > > > > sharings. > > > > > > > > > > It is sad though that after jyotish software (including > > commercial > > > > > ones) have been on the since since 80s, there remain problems > > > > > sometimes major ones today, 20+ years later! > > > > > > > > > > I am strictly talking about commercial software and cannot > > really > > > > > impose such demands and expectations on freeware and > shareware > > which > > > > > are labours of love and acts of charity. > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dolatji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I have been using this for last one year, but for > Prashna > > > > Jyotish > > > > > > it does not work for me. This is no doubt the best > softwares > > > > > > available on Net for downloading and the great blessings > from > > > > > > thousands must have accrued to the owners including mines, > > for > > > > their > > > > > > service to the astrologer community. They have been > > magnamonius > > > > > > in sharing with the public,and I bow to them. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , neela bagaria > > > > > > <neelabagaria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji > > > > > > > One of the detailed software is free available to down > > load > > > > > > > name JAGGANNATH HORA > > > > > > > download the same i think it is the best detailed > > calculation > > > > > > > one should know how to read it > > > > > > > dolat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > Yes I cannot say that any Software is complete. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This took place about 6-8 months before. > > > > > > > A famous company well known all over India to > > astrologers,and > > > > also > > > > > > > specialising in KP Softwares, its a shame that I had a > bad > > > > > > experience > > > > > > > with them. This company also has a Forum on KP among the > > > > > > Astrological > > > > > > > Forums where great self-confessed astrologers who think > > that > > > > they > > > > > > are > > > > > > > exclusive and look down upon the traditional ones, work. > > The > > > > Makers > > > > > > > of this Software consider themselves as Masters of KP. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I got my own chart made from their software to oblige > some > > > > > > astrologer > > > > > > > and was studying > > > > > > > the 3rd and 4th Sub Lords of the Planet Rahu . After a > long > > > > time I > > > > > > > had been able to > > > > > > > break the mystery of Rahu (Still Not Sure), as my own > Rahu > > > > > > MahaDasha > > > > > > > was due to start shortly. Uptil the Nakshatra level, the > > > > software > > > > > > > showed right results. But the Sublord > > > > > > > and Sub SubLord, (which form a very important clue to > give > > > > results > > > > > > of > > > > > > > any planet ) > > > > > > > showed results which were very distressing. I was > > disheartened. > > > > > > Then > > > > > > > I took out one > > > > > > > more chart of mines made from another software, which > > showed > > > > > > > different > > > > > > > degrees of Rahu as to what this new software had given me > > in > > > > > > > printout. Now I was > > > > > > > completely in a fix not knowing what to do as the new > > software > > > > was > > > > > > > considered to be the best. Suddenly I got a idea, I took > > out > > > > the > > > > > > > Rapheals Ephemeris, > > > > > > > and did the calculation manually and found that the new > > > > Software > > > > > > was > > > > > > > wrong. > > > > > > > Which means wrong feeding had been done in their > software. > > Now > > > > even > > > > > > > for a slow > > > > > > > moving planet if they are not able to show proper results > > than > > > > what > > > > > > > about the Moon ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I took the new and old chart to my Guru, who checked the > > > > degrees of > > > > > > > Rahu in my > > > > > > > Birth year in his old tattered Indian panchangs and > > confirmed > > > > that > > > > > > I > > > > > > > was right. he also > > > > > > > showed me the totally contrary results if I had followed > > the > > > > new > > > > > > > chart and not been > > > > > > > good enough to observe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the state of affairs in the market. Fortunately > the > > new > > > > > > > Updated Version of > > > > > > > this Software does not have the problem. But what about > the > > old > > > > > > one ? > > > > > > > How many > > > > > > > all over India must be using the same and giving wrong > > > > > > predictions ? > > > > > > > Such > > > > > > > type of practises (Whether done purposely or by mistake > does > > > > > > > not matter) is akin to mixing poison - powder in food > > grains > > > > and > > > > > > > selling to > > > > > > > un-suspecting people. God knows how many astrologers must > > have > > > > > > > purchased > > > > > > > that software (2002 version) and not able to read right ? > > Here > > > > it > > > > > > was > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > own chart so I went deep in checking otherwise those who > > sell > > > > > > > Computer Kundlis, and those who read for others, why > would > > they > > > > > > > check all this ? And they pride themselves as KP > Softwares > > where > > > > > > > its most important to give proper calculations upto 4th > > level > > > > of > > > > > > Sub > > > > > > > Sub > > > > > > > because the whole reading is based on minute divisons of > > the > > > > > > > Nakshatra > > > > > > > portions or amshas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So ultimately its back to square one. Nothing better than > > our > > > > > > Pandits > > > > > > > of yore.They were the best. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Tatvamasi > > > > <om_tatsat_om@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I checked out this "SOFTWARE" > > > > > > > > It is just run of the mill "Me too" software. > > > > > > > > Nothing "Durlabh" about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Kumar ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why else would there be so many versions and updates, > > each > > > > > > promising > > > > > > > > yet more and not fulfilling and creating errors in > areas > > > > where in > > > > > > > > earlier versions there were none! Each upgrade costs > > quite a > > > > bit > > > > > > too > > > > > > > > -- typically 1/4th of the original cost which may be > quite > > > > > > > > considerable for some of us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a catch-22. The programmer has to make a living > and > > > > given > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > rather frail market as far as jyotish software is > > concerned -- > > > > not > > > > > > > > enough to sustain even those who claim to do it for the > > love > > > > of > > > > > > it > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > live a monastic lifestyle (and some really do!). And, > > truth > > > > be > > > > > > told, > > > > > > > > most of us jyotishis and part-time jyotishis do need > > these > > > > > > software > > > > > > > > packages and it helps make our life easier (or enables > us > > to > > > > have > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > 'life'!). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps it is all a sign of the times (Kaliyuga). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The traditional adage has been: Let us grin and bear it! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The modern internet version that I propose is: Let us > > VENT > > > > but > > > > > > > SUSTAIN it! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > And then there is the issue about some programmers > > > > experiencing > > > > > > > > fluctuating health and energy levels--- In > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > > <gbp_kumar@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tatvam-asi > > > > > > > > > I am sure h meant priceless, rare or its type as a > > > > marketing > > > > > > ploy, > > > > > > > > but then unles it is proven who can say this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > every s/w so far written has diferent errors, bugs > > > > limitatios so > > > > > > > > nothing is final > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om@> wrote: > > > > > > > > What is Durlabh's Kundali software? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never heard of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nitesh pathak <nitesh_pat1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Almost everybody is familier with the DURLABH's > KUNDLI > > > > > > software., > > > > > > > > Now I want to know that where and how to look for the > > most > > > > > > possible > > > > > > > > time for a person to get married. 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Guest guest Posted February 4, 2007 Report Share Posted February 4, 2007 My sentiments exactly, particularly in these two paragraphs, Bhaskar ji! <<Every man has his individual worth on this planet,otherwise he would not have been given a human form by the Divine Mother, in the first case. Sorry, but I treat this Forum as my own Home, and first Home so take the liberty of writing Non astrological too.Thanks to Tanvirji for his generousity.>> , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Shri RR ji, > > My kindness is always genuine Sir and given to one who deserves it. > Not that You need it from a small person like me. The Sun does > not need people to compliment for the light shown. It is > just there. > > As per my experience, > Arrogance even if it comes, we have enough people around us > to throw it on the ground, and the primary people who would do > this are our own family members. So let it come, I know no > sooner does it come, it will not be long before one of my > own kith and kin breaks it. > > "Joh Dard diya phoolon ne diya, > kaanton se shikva kya karen, > joh dard diya apnon ne diya, > gairon se shikva kya karen." > > A King and a beggar- > This is a relative term for the wise people. > A rich man with no goodness in him, no kind act > in his life time account, and no love, affection and > sympathy in his character may still be the > beggar of his zone, while a beggar who is > spiritual, just,kind, love for all, helpful > and content with whatever he gets as daily alms, > may be a king in his own might and right. > > We have all heard real stories of even great > Kings going to people who may be called > beggars in the wordly sense,with folded hands, > asking for benedictions. > > I may be a beggar in eyes of my wife and > children as I dont earn much monetarily, > but those who know me as astrological reader > of their charts who consult me regularly, > consider and treat me like a King. > > Every man has his individual worth on > this planet,otherwise he would not have > been given a human form by the Divine > Mother, in the first case. > > Sorry, but I treat this Forum as my own Home, > and first Home so take the liberty of writing Non > astrological too.Thanks to Tanvirji for his > generousity. > > The last part of your mail. > The excersise given to comrades in arms is just > to get them ready for the final showdown, and > this practise makes it easier for them when the > real thing takes place. > Just like the mother of a unwed daughter prepares > her daughter to learn cooking and other chores, so > that when she is thrown in a inevitable new > environment,in a new family, she would be capable > enough to manage. > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > Your kindness bothers me! It may introduce arrogance into my humble > > reality, just as a cashew nut kindly tossed by a passing king into > > the bowl of a poor man's porridge/sattu may motivate the latter > into > > wanting a better life WHEN all he was born into this reality was to > > receive alms and whatever else poor men are destined to receive in > > their chosen current lifetimes! > > > > This may be irrelevant but have you ever wondered why soldiers in > > making during their training with their compatriots -- ones who > will > > eventually fight in the same army fighting the same enemy and even > > ending up giving up their lieve for their comrades and training > > buddies -- are during training pitted against the same training > > buddies, against each other, without killing each other during the > > training! > > > > Interesting concept, isn't it? > > > > Rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Shri RRji, > > > > > > I have always admired your intelligence and perception powers. > > > > > > You have understood what I meant to say, very well exactly as I > > > wished to, but could not word it properly as one other reader > > > pointed out that I should illustrate with a chart. That > > > would have been too much on my energies and time, so I let that > > > mail pass. > > > > > > To remove the problem in question,I just purchased a software > > > costing Rs.5000- from AstroCamp Kismat 2005 (earlier > > > version is having faulty readings).here the Prashna > > > Lagna shows exactly the Lagna of the Number chosen,in the first > > > house and no need for rotation, mental or otherwise. > > > They also give the Significators chart on one page which is > > > enough to give reading on a broad base for whole life of a > native, > > > within maximum few minutes (When Natal Chart is made). > > > For Prashna also the same process is ther and one need not take > > > access to pen or paper for reading out results, if one knows how > > > to read the significators table. > > > > > > I have not explored this software fully for its utilities for > > > want of spare time though its with me since last 6 months. > > > But it has got other wonderful features. > > > > > > Also you were right about your understanding of Sign Lord, > > > Star Lord and SubLord as shown in the software results. > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > I think I understand what you said. So in KP prashna system, > the > > 1- > > > 249 > > > > numbers are really for each nakshatra sub. Each of these > numbers > > > would > > > > have a sign lord, star lord and a sub lord (1 will represent ma- > > ke- > > > ke, > > > > 2 would be ma-ke-ve and so on). The software under scrutiny > > perhaps > > > > creates a prashna chart with the actual lagna rising and > indicates > > > > that the KP ascendant is in ma-ke-ke (if 1 was chosen, for > > example). > > > > So in the taurus rising chart in your example you would have to > > > > mentally move everything back by one house (12th becomes 1st, > 1st > > > > becomes 2nd and so on). > > > > > > > > You have raised a point which I have always had with commercial > > > > software such as Parashara's Light which I use too. In this day > > and > > > > age of computer technology innovation, the programming of even > > these > > > > expensive software looks rather crude and clunky -- so I would > not > > > > blame a free software for not having all the finesse, > > particularly > > > for > > > > a system that truth be told is not really mainstream (KP can > work > > > well > > > > though, so I am not challenging the system itself -- just that > it > > is > > > > probably not as popular based on how few individuals use it or > > talk > > > > about it, compared to the mainstream majority as per their > voices > > > and > > > > writings which is all I have to go by.). > > > > > > > > How difficult would it be for the programmers to introduce some > > code > > > > which allows one to click on a house and have the square or > circle > > > > remap as the clicked house becoming the 1st house? It would > help > > me > > > so > > > > much in some of the research I am doing in which the first > house > > is > > > > oriented from certain padas and other derived orientation > points? > > > > > > > > I hope a representative from Geovision is listening! Also, > while I > > > > have his/her attention, can we expand the 'search' charts > screen > > to > > > > identify 'yogas' because that is exactly what is being done as > is > > > > apprarent from the yoga code flashing when the search is being > > done! > > > > (L1/P7*iD9 (something like that) = find charts with lagna lord > or > > > > kalatrapada in conjunction in navamsha). > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > > > When one chooses a number between 1-249, each number has a > > > > > seperate Lagna with degrees alloted to it. But in this > > > > > software the map of the Kundli does not change the Lagna at > > > > > the time when Prashna is made according to the number. But > > > > > the house which is Lagna is mentioned seperately.So > > > > > what happens though the Prashna Lagna may be Taurus but the > > > > > Chart onscreen may be showing some other Raashi as Lagna, > > > > > and one has to calculate mentally while looking for > > > > > certain aspects in the chart,and theres every possibility > > > > > of mistaking once in a while some other house as the one > > > > > we wish to study. > > > > > > > > > > Also the cusps mentioned on the right hand side 1 to 12 do > > > > > not change in order of Lagna as per number. here also > > > > > the same chance of committing mistake is there. > > > > > > > > > > Also the significators chart is not there for one to > > > > > check at a glance what planet signifies what.So this too > > > > > one has to do manually. > > > > > > > > > > But yet this is the mother of all softwares > > > > > and one does not see the defects in his mother,more than > > > > > necessary. > > > > > > > > > > And You have rightly said one cannot really impose such > > > > > demands and expectations on freeware and shareware which > > > > > are labours of love and acts of charity. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Rohiniranjan" > > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > For the benefit of the forum, would you care to share a bit > > > more? > > > > > Does > > > > > > prashna not work for you or this particular software when > > used > > > for > > > > > > prashna? It would help us all because it is obvious that > many > > > > > > individuals use prashna techniques quite a bit and often. > > Some > > > of > > > > > them > > > > > > may be using this software and probably could be helped by > > your > > > > > sharings. > > > > > > > > > > > > It is sad though that after jyotish software (including > > > commercial > > > > > > ones) have been on the since since 80s, there remain > problems > > > > > > sometimes major ones today, 20+ years later! > > > > > > > > > > > > I am strictly talking about commercial software and cannot > > > really > > > > > > impose such demands and expectations on freeware and > > shareware > > > which > > > > > > are labours of love and acts of charity. > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Bhaskar" > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Dolatji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes I have been using this for last one year, but for > > Prashna > > > > > Jyotish > > > > > > > it does not work for me. This is no doubt the best > > softwares > > > > > > > available on Net for downloading and the great blessings > > from > > > > > > > thousands must have accrued to the owners including > mines, > > > for > > > > > their > > > > > > > service to the astrologer community. They have been > > > magnamonius > > > > > > > in sharing with the public,and I bow to them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , neela bagaria > > > > > > > <neelabagaria@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskarji > > > > > > > > One of the detailed software is free available to > down > > > load > > > > > > > > name JAGGANNATH HORA > > > > > > > > download the same i think it is the best detailed > > > calculation > > > > > > > > one should know how to read it > > > > > > > > dolat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes I cannot say that any Software is > complete. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This took place about 6-8 months before. > > > > > > > > A famous company well known all over India to > > > astrologers,and > > > > > also > > > > > > > > specialising in KP Softwares, its a shame that I had a > > bad > > > > > > > experience > > > > > > > > with them. This company also has a Forum on KP among > the > > > > > > > Astrological > > > > > > > > Forums where great self-confessed astrologers who think > > > that > > > > > they > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > exclusive and look down upon the traditional ones, > work. > > > The > > > > > Makers > > > > > > > > of this Software consider themselves as Masters of KP. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I got my own chart made from their software to oblige > > some > > > > > > > astrologer > > > > > > > > and was studying > > > > > > > > the 3rd and 4th Sub Lords of the Planet Rahu . After a > > long > > > > > time I > > > > > > > > had been able to > > > > > > > > break the mystery of Rahu (Still Not Sure), as my own > > Rahu > > > > > > > MahaDasha > > > > > > > > was due to start shortly. Uptil the Nakshatra level, > the > > > > > software > > > > > > > > showed right results. But the Sublord > > > > > > > > and Sub SubLord, (which form a very important clue to > > give > > > > > results > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > any planet ) > > > > > > > > showed results which were very distressing. I was > > > disheartened. > > > > > > > Then > > > > > > > > I took out one > > > > > > > > more chart of mines made from another software, which > > > showed > > > > > > > > different > > > > > > > > degrees of Rahu as to what this new software had given > me > > > in > > > > > > > > printout. Now I was > > > > > > > > completely in a fix not knowing what to do as the new > > > software > > > > > was > > > > > > > > considered to be the best. Suddenly I got a idea, I > took > > > out > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Rapheals Ephemeris, > > > > > > > > and did the calculation manually and found that the new > > > > > Software > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > wrong. > > > > > > > > Which means wrong feeding had been done in their > > software. > > > Now > > > > > even > > > > > > > > for a slow > > > > > > > > moving planet if they are not able to show proper > results > > > than > > > > > what > > > > > > > > about the Moon ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I took the new and old chart to my Guru, who checked > the > > > > > degrees of > > > > > > > > Rahu in my > > > > > > > > Birth year in his old tattered Indian panchangs and > > > confirmed > > > > > that > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > was right. he also > > > > > > > > showed me the totally contrary results if I had > followed > > > the > > > > > new > > > > > > > > chart and not been > > > > > > > > good enough to observe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is the state of affairs in the market. Fortunately > > the > > > new > > > > > > > > Updated Version of > > > > > > > > this Software does not have the problem. But what about > > the > > > old > > > > > > > one ? > > > > > > > > How many > > > > > > > > all over India must be using the same and giving wrong > > > > > > > predictions ? > > > > > > > > Such > > > > > > > > type of practises (Whether done purposely or by mistake > > does > > > > > > > > not matter) is akin to mixing poison - powder in food > > > grains > > > > > and > > > > > > > > selling to > > > > > > > > un-suspecting people. God knows how many astrologers > must > > > have > > > > > > > > purchased > > > > > > > > that software (2002 version) and not able to read > right ? > > > Here > > > > > it > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > own chart so I went deep in checking otherwise those > who > > > sell > > > > > > > > Computer Kundlis, and those who read for others, why > > would > > > they > > > > > > > > check all this ? And they pride themselves as KP > > Softwares > > > where > > > > > > > > its most important to give proper calculations upto 4th > > > level > > > > > of > > > > > > > Sub > > > > > > > > Sub > > > > > > > > because the whole reading is based on minute divisons > of > > > the > > > > > > > > Nakshatra > > > > > > > > portions or amshas. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So ultimately its back to square one. Nothing better > than > > > our > > > > > > > Pandits > > > > > > > > of yore.They were the best. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , Tatvamasi > > > > > <om_tatsat_om@> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I checked out this "SOFTWARE" > > > > > > > > > It is just run of the mill "Me too" software. > > > > > > > > > Nothing "Durlabh" about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Kumar ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why else would there be so many versions and updates, > > > each > > > > > > > promising > > > > > > > > > yet more and not fulfilling and creating errors in > > areas > > > > > where in > > > > > > > > > earlier versions there were none! Each upgrade costs > > > quite a > > > > > bit > > > > > > > too > > > > > > > > > -- typically 1/4th of the original cost which may be > > quite > > > > > > > > > considerable for some of us. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a catch-22. The programmer has to make a living > > and > > > > > given > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > rather frail market as far as jyotish software is > > > concerned -- > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > enough to sustain even those who claim to do it for > the > > > love > > > > > of > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > live a monastic lifestyle (and some really do!). And, > > > truth > > > > > be > > > > > > > told, > > > > > > > > > most of us jyotishis and part-time jyotishis do need > > > these > > > > > > > software > > > > > > > > > packages and it helps make our life easier (or > enables > > us > > > to > > > > > have > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > 'life'!). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps it is all a sign of the times (Kaliyuga). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The traditional adage has been: Let us grin and bear > it! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The modern internet version that I propose is: Let us > > > VENT > > > > > but > > > > > > > > SUSTAIN it! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > And then there is the issue about some programmers > > > > > experiencing > > > > > > > > > fluctuating health and energy levels--- In > > > > > > > > > , Prashant Kumar G B > > > > > <gbp_kumar@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Tatvam-asi > > > > > > > > > > I am sure h meant priceless, rare or its type as a > > > > > marketing > > > > > > > ploy, > > > > > > > > > but then unles it is proven who can say this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > every s/w so far written has diferent errors, bugs > > > > > limitatios so > > > > > > > > > nothing is final > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tatvamasi <om_tatsat_om@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > What is Durlabh's Kundali software? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Never heard of it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nitesh pathak <nitesh_pat1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Almost everybody is familier with the DURLABH's > > KUNDLI > > > > > > > software., > > > > > > > > > Now I want to know that where and how to look for the > > > most > > > > > > > possible > > > > > > > > > time for a person to get married. I mean how to know > > that > > > > > when the > > > > > > > > > personis likely to be married. Is it in yogini > > mahadasha > > > or > > > > > in > > > > > > > > yogini > > > > > > > > > pratyantar dasha. Please guide. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Nitesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - > > > > > > > > > > Answers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > > > > > > > > > > with Mail for Mobile. Get started. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prashantkumar G B > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on > > > > > > > > > > > > > > group but > > > > > > > > > > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, > > > mail or > > > > > > > phone. > > > > > > > > > > Please fix times for this in advance -*- and Pay > Pal > > ID > > > also > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Personal ID astro.prashantkumar@ > > > > > > > > > > 09840051861 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a PS3 game guru. > > > > > > > > > > Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and > > > previews > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > Games. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get your own web address. > > > > > > > > > Have a HUGE year through Small Business. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now that's room service! 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