Guest guest Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 i agree with dr venugopal - RA and amavata cannot be equated per se one needs to look at the lakshanas of the disease not at medical diagnostic criteria there is obvious overlap but not total congruency rather, the etiology and pathology of amavata are strikingly similar to the recently described "intestinal permeability syndrome", which is associated with a larger number of symptoms including those traditionally associated with amavata (eg. poor digestion, poor appetite, lethargy, burning pains, urinary disorders, insomnia, thirst, vertigo, chest/heart pain, constipation etc etc) here is an excerpt on this from my book (with edits for the sanskrit terms, since isn't unicode compatible) "To put a modern slant on the concept of ama, let us examine the issue of intestinal permeability, or “leaky-gut syndrome.” Succinctly put, intestinal permeability describes a process by which some agent or combination of agents initiates an inflammatory response in the digestive tract. Persistent gastrointestinal inflammation eventually disrupts the integrity of the mucosal lining of the gut, and tiny perforations allow for molecules larger than usual to pass across this barrier. These molecules can be derived from the diet, or may be in the form of microorganisms such as bacteria and fungi that naturally inhabit our digestive tract. In response to this infiltration, an immune response is initiated and the body begins to manufacture specific antibodies to these antigens. Unfortunately, many human tissues have antigenic sites almost identical to those substances that pass across a permeable intestinal wall. These antibodies then circulate throughout the body and bind with endogenous (self) antigens to initiate an inflammatory response. Ayurveda describes a condition analogous to intestinal permeability, in which a deficiency of agni promotes the formation of ama. Ama then enters into the dhatu cycle and begins to localize in areas such as the joints, or in already weakened or susceptible areas. Once ama is firmly wedged in these locations the doshas become vitiated: first kapha, with an increase in congestion; followed by pitta, which sets up a cycle of inflammation; and then vata, which promotes degenerative changes. Thus the basic dynamics of intestinal permeability syndrome were identified several millennia ago in India as being an important causative factor in the development of disease, even if the pathogenic mechanisms described are somewhat different." amavata is a sannipatija condition, affected by all three doshas however its origin clearly lies with poor digestion and the dietary habits which promote weak digestion and feed ama my experience with this condition is that antigenic or immunosuppressive foods need to be removed from the diet thus, i typically remove things like dairy, flour, gluten, sugar etc, (instituting a strict paleolithic-style, see: http:// www.toddcaldecott.com/health_pn.html) and then use herbs and supplements to address both the core issues (e.g. digestion/ elimination, vitality, joint integrity etc) and specific symptoms based on the doshas some patients respond remarkably quickly - one patient i recall had 100% remission of all symptoms in as little as 2 weeks - but she wasn't all that advanced in the condition sometimes the best treatment can be very confronting, especially if it challenges some of the choices we have previously made for eg. one women suffered and eventually died from complications of RA after years of suppressive medical treatments simply because she wold not stop eating antigenic foods in her adopted indian vegetarian diet (because she was devotee) - yet her ancestry was northern european, and very clearly her disease was caused by ASATMYA - improper dietary patterns for her ancestry - so she chose to suffer die of the disease despite undergoing extensive pancha karma and ayurvedic treatments that did little to halt the disease in cases where typical treatments aren't working and patients aren't getting better i cannot emphasize enough that a proper elimination diet is absolutely crucial to addressing the core issues, and must be followed rigorously for several months (at least 9-12 months) best... todd On 31-Jan-07, at 3:10 AM, ayurveda wrote: > Dear Dr. Venu Gopal, > I appreciate your emphsising the point that Rheumatoid Arthritis > and Amvata are not same. But Sir, If we go on like this perhaps we > will not be able to co-relate most of the Ayurvedic Diseases in the > modern science language. It is just like literally translating one > language to the other one, which may not always be possible. <snip> Caldecott, Dip. Cl.H, RH(AHG) Ayurvedic practitioner, Clinical Herbalist 203 - 1750 East 10th Ave Vancouver, BC CANADA web: http//:www.toddcaldecott.com email: todd (AT) toddcaldecott (DOT) com tel: 778.896.8894 fax: 415-376-6736 Wishing you the best of Health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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