Science of Caste / Varna-system & Eugenic science

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--> This discussion while convincing is truly pathetic and while logical based on its axioms, the axioms themselves leave a lot to be desire. The arguments are base/shallow and really based on half knowledge of the vedas and a lot of heresy.

 

The answer is hidden in Varnashram, the 4 varna system and its

marriage-system. The downfall of Vedic sciences started in Pre-Ashok

times, but, for all practical purposes we can say that the downfall

started from the time of King Ashoka.

 

--> The Varnashram went far beyond its reaches than just creating a "marital system". While the marital component was one of its implementation, it was just that: ONE of the implementations.

A man gets birth in a particular genetic lineage (family) on the basis

of his previous karmas ( thoughts and actions). Birth is not accidental.

--> This is totally RIDICULOUS! Varnashram was *never* based on birth into lineage, instead it was based on the overt sanskars of the individual. A brahmin could be born in the house of a Shudra and vice-versa. Fear and massive-protectionism created this birth-by-heritage-caste system that has created such ills in the society. Your claim and the entire premise is based on this assumption which is completely off-base. PLEASE rectify your arguments and theory in light of this apparently... new... information to you!

That's why, for good

progeny, wife should be tuned to her husband, coloured by her husband,

she shud have adherence to her husband. Otherwise, she will select (

automatic biological system) a bad-quality soul. And the child will be

negative, not developed and a burden on the society.

--> there are no "bad-quality" souls.. IF you really believe and know the vedas, the soul, or atman, itself is part of the parmatman. Each soul takes birth to deliver itself and has been given the opportunity to do so as it takes birth. The sanskars brought on by each soul again are not all utilized. There's prarabdh and sanchalit karmas/sanskaras that have to be taken note off. Depending on circumstances and soul-choice, the appropriate ones are manifested to give birth to new sanskars and karmas. Again the fact that you recognize a soul as "Bad-quality" or "Good-quality" totally negates itself in the many late/early life converts that have been known and seen... eg: Kabir, Tukaram, etc were all born of your "lower" castes yet their devotion and satvic karmas far outreach those of any upper-caste members then and now. Eknath, etc are numerous in their numbers. Please please please re-read your itihaas and upanishads that explain how this system

was originally set up and later abused, MUCH before Ashok's time.

Now, Ashoka started promoting Sanyas-celibacy. This was neither the

ideals of Vedic society nor of Buddha. Buddha had preached Middle path

for general society. True, some individuals may like to take sanyas. But

this cannot be prescribed for general society !

---> NO NO NO... there's no proof that Ashoka promoted Celibacy of any sort. PLEASE quit this fictional history. Ashoka did spread the word of Buddhism in the then exceedingly corrupt hindu society where temples lost royal patronage due to their excessive & excessive ritualism... stemming from umm.. "high-birth" brahmins. A lot of abuse of the varnashram turned caste system (belief in birth-superiority, not sanskar/karm-superiority) led to the rapid adoption (and later decline, for same reasons) of buddhism at that time.

Due to this, most able boys stopped marrying in Ashoka's rule. Celibacy

became a fashion. Thus, their seeds were lost. Those bio-qualities were

lost forever ! The girls had no choice but to marry inferior men.

---> AGAIN this is just your fictional fantasy at work.

We forgot our sciences, our wisdom. Our only aim became survival, in

face of foreign onslaught. Eat, shit and survive. And, then Macaulay

came to perform the last rites. The pyre of Vedic civilisation is still

burning. Its being kept alive by modern Indian intelligentsia which

mocks, scoffs and laughs at its own civilisation.

--> you may really want to check your stats on this, with all due seriousness.