Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 "but if She actually lived as Christ > in another lifetime. Reportedly, due to the girls' > innocence question, Amma answered with a direct > "yes." Dear Sweta and all, I wanted to share this paragraph from a book that I am currently transcribing for the Babaji.net site. It is out of print, and I was lucky enough to get a very moldy, rusty, copy from the yearly monsoons in India. I am about half way through this project. Marge is offering this book on her website free of charge. She has the first half of the the book available if you want it. It explains a bit about the different levels of beings who incarnate on the earth to serve and help humanity. I would say Amma comes from the Avatars of Vishnu, such as Lord Krishna and most likely Jesus. This would be true then, as at Amma's level there is no separation, they are indeed of the same incarnation, as are we.....we are also evolving and growing towards complete merger with God. Here is the paragraph: PART 1 CHAPTER 1 INTRODUCTION According to the traditional Hindu Sanatan Dharma system, all human beings are classified into different categories, as Jnanis, Yogis, Siddhas and Avatars. This classification is mainly based upon the spiritual attainments of the individuals. A Jnani is a highly learned person who is proficient in Vedas, Shastras etc. He is an ocean of knowledge and can give sound advice for any day-to-day problem based upon his knowledge. A Yogi is one who has attained certain spiritual powers like the ability to go into Samadhi for long lengths of time and to telepathically communicate to far off distances. To attain this stage, one has to be not only a Jnani, but also should have practiced various forms of Yoga’s including Meditation and Penance. Yogis have perfect control over their body to such an extent that they can stop breathing for hours together. They can even levitate above the ground. When a Yogi attains a high level on the spiritual plane, he becomes a Siddha. A Siddha can perform very sophisticated miracles like disappearing and appearing at various places, curing persons of their ailments and materializing things from know where. Above all these stages are the Avatars who are basically incarnations of various Gods. Even though they posses a form and behave externally like all other normal human beings, they are much above other classes of humans. Just as for one qualified technician it is necessary for him to recognize another technician, only spiritually advanced people like Yogis and Siddhas will be able to recognize Avatars. Avatarpurushas can not-only have control over their own mind and body but also on those of others. For normal people, it is only the full and sincere devotion that can give them ability to recognize and understand the Avatarpurushas. These Avatar-purushas would have many holy and auspicious marks on their bodies. At times they cast no shadows or do not leave behind footprints while walking. Their actions are not limited to a small set of people, but are meant to be experienced for the entire mankind. Among the Avatars, are some mortals and a few immortals. The former ones leave their bodies at the end of their mission, while the latter maintain their bodies throughout time. While Rama, Krishna, etc, belong to the former group, Hanuman and Baba Gorakhnath belong to the latter. Even though the immortal ones maintain their bodies, they stay in invisible form by their Yogic powers. Normally the mortal Avatars are incarnations of Lord Vishnu while the immortals are of Lord Shiva. The drama of Creation is enacted mainly by the above classes of actors. The basic theme of this drama is the gradual expansion of sin and evil in the world which at a certain stage gets reduced by the destruction caused by an Avatar for the sake of establishing truth and righteousness. As life gradually evolved from Aqueous stage to Amphibians and humans, at every stage of evolution an Avatar descended in the world to destroy evil forces which had multiplied to a great extent in that stage. These Avatars are mainly incarnations of Lord Vishnu. Thus Lord Vishnu incarnated Himself in the form of fish (Matsya Avatar) during the aqueous stage of creation, in the form of Man-Lion (Narasimh-Avatar) during the transition period of animal to human stage of evolution, in the form of Dwarf (Vaman-Avatar) during the early stage of human evolution. During every stage of evolution the sins and evils increased in intensity and were destructed by an Avatar to a great extent. However, after a repetition of these cycles a stage arises when the sin and evil grows to such enormous dimensions that it becomes beyond the capacity of normal Avatars to control. At this stage a Mahavatar (Super Avatar) appears on the scene for the establishment of truth, and guides humans into the righteous path. This Mahavatar is basically an incarnation of the Director and Author of the Drama of Creation, who is called in Hindu Mythology, Samba Sada Shiva. Like a true Director, He is always present but stays behind the scenes and would be prompting occasionally, the various actors. Only a few of the actors get the opportunity of coming into contact with Him during their lifetime. Om Nanah Shivaya Immortal Babaji & His Lilas By K.L. Jand HAIDAKHANWALE BABA’S ASHRAM P.O. HAIDKHAN VISHWA MAHADHAM VIA OKHALDOONGA, DIST. NAINITAL U.P. (INDIA) K.L. Jand President, Sri Samb Sada Shiv Satang, 405, United Street, Near Kailash Cinema, Civil Lines, Ludhiana. 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Guest guest Posted January 30, 2007 Report Share Posted January 30, 2007 ONS, thanks for this very useful and interesting restatement. Please post as much of this book as possible!! Peace, Chris Ammachi, Stacee Kramer <stacee.kramer wrote: > > "but if She actually lived as Christ > > in another lifetime. Reportedly, due to the girls' > > innocence question, Amma answered with a direct > > "yes." > > Dear Sweta and all, > > I wanted to share this paragraph from a book that I am > currently transcribing for the Babaji.net site. > It is out of print, and I was lucky enough to get a > very moldy, rusty, copy from the yearly monsoons in > India. I am about half way through this project. Marge > is offering this book on her website free of charge. > She has the first half of the the book available if > you want it. > > It explains a bit about the different levels of beings > who incarnate on the earth to serve and help humanity. > > I would say Amma comes from the Avatars of Vishnu, > such as Lord Krishna and most likely Jesus. > > This would be true then, as at Amma's level there is > no separation, they are indeed of the same > incarnation, as are we.....we are also evolving and > growing towards complete merger with God. > > Here is the paragraph: > PART 1 > CHAPTER 1 > INTRODUCTION > > According to the traditional Hindu Sanatan Dharma > system, all human beings are classified into different > categories, as Jnanis, Yogis, Siddhas and Avatars. > This classification is mainly based upon the spiritual > attainments of the individuals. A Jnani is a highly > learned person who is proficient in Vedas, Shastras > etc. He is an ocean of knowledge and can give sound > advice for any day-to-day problem based upon his > knowledge. A Yogi is one who has attained certain > spiritual powers like the ability to go into Samadhi > for long lengths of time and to telepathically > communicate to far off distances. To attain this > stage, one has to be not only a Jnani, but also should > have practiced various forms of Yoga's including > Meditation and Penance. Yogis have perfect control > over their body to such an extent that they can stop > breathing for hours together. They can even levitate > above the ground. When a Yogi attains a high level on > the spiritual plane, he becomes a Siddha. A Siddha can > perform very sophisticated miracles like disappearing > and appearing at various places, curing persons of > their ailments and materializing things from know > where. Above all these stages are the Avatars who are > basically incarnations of various Gods. Even though > they posses a form and behave externally like all > other normal human beings, they are much above other > classes of humans. Just as for one qualified > technician it is necessary for him to recognize > another technician, only spiritually advanced people > like Yogis and Siddhas will be able to recognize > Avatars. Avatarpurushas can not-only have control over > their own mind and body but also on those of others. > For normal people, it is only the full and sincere > devotion that can give them ability to recognize and > understand the Avatarpurushas. These Avatar-purushas > would have many holy and auspicious marks on their > bodies. At times they cast no shadows or do not leave > behind footprints while walking. Their actions are not > limited to a small set of people, but are meant to be > experienced for the entire mankind. Among the Avatars, > are some mortals and a few immortals. The former ones > leave their bodies at the end of their mission, while > the latter maintain their bodies throughout time. > While Rama, Krishna, etc, belong to the former group, > Hanuman and Baba Gorakhnath belong to the latter. Even > though the immortal ones maintain their bodies, they > stay in invisible form by their Yogic powers. Normally > the mortal Avatars are incarnations of Lord Vishnu > while the immortals are of Lord Shiva. > > The drama of Creation is enacted mainly by the above > classes of actors. The basic theme of this drama is > the gradual expansion of sin and evil in the world > which at a certain stage gets reduced by the > destruction caused by an Avatar for the sake of > establishing truth and righteousness. As life > gradually evolved from Aqueous stage to Amphibians and > humans, at every stage of evolution an Avatar > descended in the world to destroy evil forces which > had multiplied to a great extent in that stage. These > Avatars are mainly incarnations of Lord Vishnu. Thus > Lord Vishnu incarnated Himself in the form of fish > (Matsya Avatar) during the aqueous stage of creation, > in the form of Man-Lion (Narasimh-Avatar) during the > transition period of animal to human stage of > evolution, in the form of Dwarf (Vaman-Avatar) during > the early stage of human evolution. During every stage > of evolution the sins and evils increased in intensity > and were destructed by an Avatar to a great extent. > However, after a repetition of these cycles a stage > arises when the sin and evil grows to such enormous > dimensions that it becomes beyond the capacity of > normal Avatars to control. At this stage a Mahavatar > (Super Avatar) appears on the scene for the > establishment of truth, and guides humans into the > righteous path. This Mahavatar is basically an > incarnation of the Director and Author of the Drama of > Creation, who is called in Hindu Mythology, Samba Sada > Shiva. Like a true Director, He is always present but > stays behind the scenes and would be prompting > occasionally, the various actors. Only a few of the > actors get the opportunity of coming into contact with > Him during their lifetime. > > Om Nanah Shivaya > > Immortal Babaji > & > His Lilas > > By K.L. Jand > > HAIDAKHANWALE BABA'S ASHRAM > P.O. HAIDKHAN VISHWA MAHADHAM > VIA OKHALDOONGA, DIST. NAINITAL > U.P. (INDIA) > > K.L. Jand > President, > Sri Samb Sada Shiv Satang, > 405, United Street, > Near Kailash Cinema, Civil Lines, > Ludhiana. Phone No. 24206 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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