Guest guest Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Humble pranams to all: I am writing this with a bit of trepidation as I'm unsure of the appropriateness, if it is untoward I ask for your forgiveness. I am wondering if there is a qualified Pandit or acharya here that would be willing to bless, purify and energise my malas. I have my japa mala 108 beads +plus a nondescript plain bead as Meru. I don't wear this mala as I'm confused by the two streams of thought, one says wear your japa mala, the other says don't...but I digress. I also have four wrist mala's that I do wear. My gut and what I have read tells me that this is something that needs to be done, but I don't think I'm qualified. Since I don't have a Guru I turn to you, please advise. Thank each of you for being, you are a blessing to my soul. Om Nama shivaya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 dear shivbhakt ed om namo bhagawate rudraya generally japamalas or rosaries for chanting mantras are not energised. only those rudrkashas which are worn by the native are purified, sanctified, energised and programmed. also i advise shivbhakts to keep the japamala only for japam and not wear it. this is my personal advice and not a rule as such. you will find many buddhish monks wearing rosaries in their wrists and use the same for chanting mantras. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun , "Ed" <edj1963 wrote: > > Humble pranams to all: > > I am writing this with a bit of trepidation as I'm unsure of the > appropriateness, if it is untoward I ask for your forgiveness. > > I am wondering if there is a qualified Pandit or acharya here that > would be willing to bless, purify and energise my malas. I have my > japa mala 108 beads +plus a nondescript plain bead as Meru. I don't > wear this mala as I'm confused by the two streams of thought, one says > wear your japa mala, the other says don't...but I digress. I also > have four wrist mala's that I do wear. > > My gut and what I have read tells me that this is something that needs > to be done, but I don't think I'm qualified. > > Since I don't have a Guru I turn to you, please advise. > > Thank each of you for being, you are a blessing to my soul. > > Om Nama shivaya. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 > > Aum Sadyo Jatam Prapadhyaami Sadyojaataaya Vai Namo Namah > Bhave Bhave Naatibhave Bhavasva Maan Bhavod Bhavaaya Namah > > Aum Vaamadevaaya,Jyeshtaaya, Sreshtaaya,Rudraaya, Kaalaaya, > Kalavikaranaaya, Balavikaranaaya, Balaaya, Bala Pramathanaaya > Sarva Bhuta Damanaaya Namo Manon Manaaya Namah. > > Aum Aghorebhyo Thaghorebhyo Ghora Ghora Tarebhyo > Sarvebhyo Sarva Sarvebhyo Namaste Astu Rudra Rupebhya > > Aum Tat Purushaaya Vidmahe Mahadevaaya Dhimahi > Tanno Rudrah Prachodayat. > > Aum Ishaanah Sarvavidhyaanaam Ishvarah Sarva Bhutaa > Naam Brahmaa Dhipatir Brahmanodhipatir Brahma > Shivome Astu Sadaashivom > Namaste Sri Pandit Dev Maharaj ji, You have provided a very nice description however how many people do you think can correctly pronounce Vedic mantra simply by reading them in English ? So my humble opinion is that unless one is confident about chanting Vedic mantras, he should not venture in this. Please let us know what you think. regards, Om Namah Sivaya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 i had asked for the meaning of these mantras since i too recite them almost daily.... regards, kanishk mahadevadvaita wrote: > > > > > > Aum Sadyo Jatam Prapadhyaami Sadyojaataaya Vai Namo Namah > > Bhave Bhave Naatibhave Bhavasva Maan Bhavod Bhavaaya Namah > > > > Aum Vaamadevaaya,Jyeshtaaya, Sreshtaaya,Rudraaya, Kaalaaya, > > Kalavikaranaaya, Balavikaranaaya, Balaaya, Bala Pramathanaaya > > Sarva Bhuta Damanaaya Namo Manon Manaaya Namah. > > > > Aum Aghorebhyo Thaghorebhyo Ghora Ghora Tarebhyo > > Sarvebhyo Sarva Sarvebhyo Namaste Astu Rudra Rupebhya > > > > Aum Tat Purushaaya Vidmahe Mahadevaaya Dhimahi > > Tanno Rudrah Prachodayat. > > > > Aum Ishaanah Sarvavidhyaanaam Ishvarah Sarva Bhutaa > > Naam Brahmaa Dhipatir Brahmanodhipatir Brahma > > Shivome Astu Sadaashivom > > > > Namaste Sri Pandit Dev Maharaj ji, You have provided a very nice > description however how many people do you think can correctly pronounce > Vedic mantra simply by reading them in English ? So my humble opinion is > that unless one is confident about chanting Vedic mantras, he should not > venture in this. Please let us know what you think. > > regards, > > Om Namah Sivaya > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Namaskar: Thank you Sri Pandit Dev Maharaj ji for the wonderful process. The question below does raise some concern for me. Not that I am concerned with negatives per se, but anything worth doing is worth doing right and well, especially when it comes to God. What is your opinion on this, should one that is not familiar with the nuances of Sanskritam attempt such? I will give this a try after trying to learn the pronunciation provided that I won't do more harm than good. Thank you again for your answer. Om Nama Shivaya -------------- Original message -------------- "mahadevadvaita" <mahadevadvaita > > > Aum Sadyo Jatam Prapadhyaami Sadyojaataaya Vai Namo Namah > Bhave Bhave Naatibhave Bhavasva Maan Bhavod Bhavaaya Namah > > Aum Vaamadevaaya,Jyeshtaaya, Sreshtaaya,Rudraaya, Kaalaaya, > Kalavikaranaaya, Balavikaranaaya, Balaaya, Bala Pramathanaaya > Sarva Bhuta Damanaaya Namo Manon Manaaya Namah. > > Aum Aghorebhyo Thaghorebhyo Ghora Ghora Tarebhyo > Sarvebhyo Sarva Sarvebhyo Namaste Astu Rudra Rupebhya > > Aum Tat Purushaaya Vidmahe Mahadevaaya Dhimahi > Tanno Rudrah Prachodayat. > > Aum Ishaanah Sarvavidhyaanaam Ishvarah Sarva Bhutaa > Naam Brahmaa Dhipatir Brahmanodhipatir Brahma > Shivome Astu Sadaashivom > Namaste Sri Pandit Dev Maharaj ji, You have provided a very nice description however how many people do you think can correctly pronounce Vedic mantra simply by reading them in English ? So my humble opinion is that unless one is confident about chanting Vedic mantras, he should not venture in this. Please let us know what you think. regards, Om Namah Sivaya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Namaskaar mahadevadvaita however how many people do you think can correctly pronounce Vedic mantra simply by reading them in English ? Answer = Probably none So my humble opinion is that unless one is confident about chanting Vedic mantras, he should not venture in this. Please let us know what you think. While every effort should always be made to learn and chant Mantras correctly with proper Chanda, Swaras etc. It is to be noted that if this were absolutely the case then no mantra would ever be recited ! Let me explain, the sounds of the various aksharas that we use to compose mantras are near approximations to what the original sounds are. When you mediate upon the Bija Mantra and listen to what these sounds are in meditation you become aware that what we utter is an expressed version of the original sound. This again is dependant upon an individuals state of physical purity or impurity, state of vibration, mental purity and can change according to the perceiver. The higher your purity the better and more clearly you will be able to perceive ! Also the original sound emanates from vibrations of light, how do you recite this ? Therefore the mantras that are siddha are unique to a persons personal vibration. The sadhakas who perfect a mantra have recited the mantra to the point that they begin to vibrate at the lower frequency of the mantra and are able to tap into its power in a universal sense hence they are able to make use of it. Please note that books cannot teach a mantra correctly which is why mantras are given by Diksha. The teaching of a guru was essential to enable the Sadhaka to learn the frequency and vibration of the mantra that enabled the original seer of the mantra to master the mantra . As when Diksha is given, a portion of the Gurus consciousness is imparted to the Shisya. This is why there were lineages of gurus who learnt in succession from older gurus. Therefore if you wait until you can utter these sounds to perfection you never will practice mantras as you will always be in error to start ! What I have given are basic mantras that will not cause any harm to reciters, this does not mean that they should go about reciting carelessly but should make every effort to learn what is considered as correct for every day practice. Lastly there is a rite that is called Kshmaarpan - which is the act of asking for forgiveness from the Devi/Devata at the end of a Puja/Japa practice for defect s/mistakes made in Thought, word or deed to render all mistakes null. By praying sincerely to the Devata with feelings of humility such mistakes can be forgiven by the Devi/Devata and is an act of grace. Best Regards Devindra Maharaj mahadevadvaita <mahadevadvaita > wrote: > > Aum Sadyo Jatam Prapadhyaami Sadyojaataaya Vai Namo Namah > Bhave Bhave Naatibhave Bhavasva Maan Bhavod Bhavaaya Namah > > Aum Vaamadevaaya,Jyeshtaaya, Sreshtaaya,Rudraaya, Kaalaaya, > Kalavikaranaaya, Balavikaranaaya, Balaaya, Bala Pramathanaaya > Sarva Bhuta Damanaaya Namo Manon Manaaya Namah. > > Aum Aghorebhyo Thaghorebhyo Ghora Ghora Tarebhyo > Sarvebhyo Sarva Sarvebhyo Namaste Astu Rudra Rupebhya > > Aum Tat Purushaaya Vidmahe Mahadevaaya Dhimahi > Tanno Rudrah Prachodayat. > > Aum Ishaanah Sarvavidhyaanaam Ishvarah Sarva Bhutaa > Naam Brahmaa Dhipatir Brahmanodhipatir Brahma > Shivome Astu Sadaashivom > Namaste Sri Pandit Dev Maharaj ji, You have provided a very nice description however how many people do you think can correctly pronounce Vedic mantra simply by reading them in English ? So my humble opinion is that unless one is confident about chanting Vedic mantras, he should not venture in this. Please let us know what you think. regards, Om Namah Sivaya Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Search weather shortcut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 Namaskaar As I answered this in a previous post however how many people do you think can correctly pronounce Vedic mantra simply by reading them in English ? Answer = Probably none So my humble opinion is that unless one is confident about chanting Vedic mantras, he should not venture in this. Please let us know what you think. While every effort should always be made to learn and chant Mantras correctly with proper Chanda, Swaras etc. It is to be noted that if this were absolutely the case then no mantra would ever be recited ! Let me explain, the sounds of the various aksharas that we use to compose mantras are near approximations to what the original sounds are. When you mediate upon the Bija Mantra and listen to what these sounds are in meditation you become aware that what we utter is an expressed version of the original sound. This again is dependant upon an individuals state of physical purity or impurity, state of vibration, mental purity and can change according to the perceiver. The higher your purity the better and more clearly you will be able to perceive ! Also the original sound emanates from vibrations of light, how do you recite this ? Therefore the mantras that are siddha are unique to a persons personal vibration. The sadhakas who perfect a mantra have recited the mantra to the point that they begin to vibrate at the lower frequency of the mantra and are able to tap into its power in a universal sense hence they are able to make use of it. Please note that books cannot teach a mantra correctly which is why mantras are given by Diksha. The teaching of a guru was essential to enable the Sadhaka to learn the frequency and vibration of the mantra that enabled the original seer of the mantra to master the mantra . As when Diksha is given, a portion of the Gurus consciousness is imparted to the Shisya. This is why there were lineages of gurus who learnt in succession from older gurus. Therefore if you wait until you can utter these sounds to perfection you never will practice mantras as you will always be in error to start ! What I have given are basic mantras that will not cause any harm to reciters, this does not mean that they should go about reciting carelessly but should make every effort to learn what is considered as correct for every day practice. Lastly there is a rite that is called Kshmaarpan - which is the act of asking for forgiveness from the Devi/Devata at the end of a Puja/Japa practice for defect s/mistakes made in Thought, word or deed to render all mistakes null. By praying sincerely to the Devata with feelings of humility such mistakes can be forgiven by the Devi/Devata and is an act of grace. If you feel uncomfortable with this approach then don't do it. Intention is what makes a thing successful or not. Always hold a positive attitude in things spiritual and ask for the grace of God. There is no substitute for grace of God as all that is defective can become effective by this alone. Best Regards Devindra Maharaj edj1963 (AT) comcast (DOT) net wrote: Namaskar: Thank you Sri Pandit Dev Maharaj ji for the wonderful process. The question below does raise some concern for me. Not that I am concerned with negatives per se, but anything worth doing is worth doing right and well, especially when it comes to God. What is your opinion on this, should one that is not familiar with the nuances of Sanskritam attempt such? I will give this a try after trying to learn the pronunciation provided that I won't do more harm than good. Thank you again for your answer. Om Nama Shivaya -------------- Original message -------------- "mahadevadvaita" <mahadevadvaita > > > Aum Sadyo Jatam Prapadhyaami Sadyojaataaya Vai Namo Namah > Bhave Bhave Naatibhave Bhavasva Maan Bhavod Bhavaaya Namah > > Aum Vaamadevaaya,Jyeshtaaya, Sreshtaaya,Rudraaya, Kaalaaya, > Kalavikaranaaya, Balavikaranaaya, Balaaya, Bala Pramathanaaya > Sarva Bhuta Damanaaya Namo Manon Manaaya Namah. > > Aum Aghorebhyo Thaghorebhyo Ghora Ghora Tarebhyo > Sarvebhyo Sarva Sarvebhyo Namaste Astu Rudra Rupebhya > > Aum Tat Purushaaya Vidmahe Mahadevaaya Dhimahi > Tanno Rudrah Prachodayat. > > Aum Ishaanah Sarvavidhyaanaam Ishvarah Sarva Bhutaa > Naam Brahmaa Dhipatir Brahmanodhipatir Brahma > Shivome Astu Sadaashivom > Namaste Sri Pandit Dev Maharaj ji, You have provided a very nice description however how many people do you think can correctly pronounce Vedic mantra simply by reading them in English ? So my humble opinion is that unless one is confid ent about chanting Vedic mantras, he should not venture in this. Please let us know what you think. regards, Om Namah Sivaya It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Toolbar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2007 Report Share Posted January 26, 2007 Dear Devindra Maharaj, Pranams; YES OF COURSE! I understand perfectly! Eureka! as they say; I don't know why I didn't grasp it before...what a pleasant gestalt. Thank you for giving me the tools to do this. Respectfully, Ed /I thank God for his Grace. Om Nama Shivaya / Dev Maharaj wrote: > > Namaskaar / > > As I answered this in a previous post/ > > however how many people do you think can correctly pronounce Vedic > mantra simply by reading them in English ? > > Answer = Probably none > > So my humble opinion is that unless one is confident about chanting > Vedic mantras, he should not venture in this. Please let us know what > you think. > > While every effort should always be made to learn and chant Mantras > correctly with proper Chanda, Swaras etc. It is to be noted that if > this were absolutely the case then no mantra would ever be recited ! > > Let me explain, the sounds of the various aksharas that we use to > compose mantras are near approximations to what the original sounds > are. When you mediate upon the Bija Mantra and listen to what these > sounds are in meditation you become aware that what we utter is an > expressed version of the original sound. This again is dependant upon > an individuals state of physical purity or impurity, state of > vibration, mental purity and can change according to the perceiver. > The higher your purity the better and more clearly you will be able to > perceive ! > Also the original sound emanates from vibrations of light, how do you > recite this ? > > Therefore the mantras that are siddha are unique to a persons personal > vibration. The sadhakas who perfect a mantra have recited the mantra > to the point that they begin to vibrate at the lower frequency of the > mantra and are able to tap into its power in a universal sense hence > they are able to make use of it. > > Please note that books cannot teach a mantra correctly which is why > mantras are given by Diksha. The teaching of a guru was essential to > enable the Sadhaka to learn the frequency and vibration of the mantra > that enabled the original seer of the mantra to master the mantra . As > when Diksha is given, a portion of the Gurus consciousness is imparted > to the Shisya. This is why there were lineages of gurus who learnt in > succession from older gurus. > > Therefore if you wait until you can utter these sounds to perfection > you never will practice mantras as you will always be in error to > start ! What I have given are basic mantras that will not cause any > harm to reciters, this does not mean that they should go about > reciting carelessly but should make every effort to learn what is > considered as correct for every day practice. > > Lastly there is a rite that is called Kshmaarpan - which is the act of > asking for forgiveness from the Devi/Devata at the end of a Puja/Japa > practice for defect s/mistakes made in Thought, word or deed to render > all mistakes null. By praying sincerely to the Devata with feelings of > humility such mistakes can be forgiven by the Devi/Devata and is an > act of grace. > > If you feel uncomfortable with this approach then don't do it. > Intention is what makes a thing successful or not. Always hold a > positive attitude in things spiritual and ask for the grace of God. > There is no substitute for grace of God as all that is defective can > become effective by this alone. > > Best Regards Devindra Maharaj > */ > edj1963 (AT) comcast (DOT) net/* wrote: > > Namaskar: > > Thank you Sri Pandit Dev Maharaj ji for the wonderful process. > The question below does raise some concern for me. Not that I am > concerned with negatives per se, but anything worth doing is worth > doing right and well, especially when it comes to God. > > What is your opinion on this, should one that is not familiar with > the nuances of Sanskritam attempt such? > I will give this a try after trying to learn the pronunciation > provided that I won't do more harm than good. > > Thank you again for your answer. > > Om Nama Shivaya > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > "mahadevadvaita" <mahadevadvaita > > > > > > Aum Sadyo Jatam Prapadhyaami Sadyojaataaya Vai Namo Namah > > Bhave Bhave Naatibhave Bhavasva Maan Bhavod Bhavaaya Namah > > > > Aum Vaamadevaaya,Jyeshtaaya, Sreshtaaya,Rudraaya, Kaalaaya, > > Kalavikaranaaya, Balavikaranaaya, Balaaya, Bala Pramathanaaya > > Sarva Bhuta Damanaaya Namo Manon Manaaya Namah. > > > > Aum Aghorebhyo Thaghorebhyo Ghora Ghora Tarebhyo > > Sarvebhyo Sarva Sarvebhyo Namaste Astu Rudra Rupebhya > > > > Aum Tat Purushaaya Vidmahe Mahadevaaya Dhimahi > > Tanno Rudrah Prachodayat. > > > > Aum Ishaanah Sarvavidhyaanaam Ishvarah Sarva Bhutaa > > Naam Brahmaa Dhipatir Brahmanodhipatir Brahma > > Shivome Astu Sadaashivom > > > > Namaste Sri Pandit Dev Maharaj ji, You have provided a very nice > description however how many people do you think can correctly > pronounce > Vedic mantra simply by reading them in English ? So my humble > opinion is > that unless one is confid ent about chanting Vedic mantras, he > should not > venture in this. Please let us know what you think. > > regards, > > Om Namah Sivaya > > > ------ > It's here! Your new message! > Get new email alerts > <http://us.rd./evt=49938/*http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/> > with the free Toolbar. > <http://us.rd./evt=49938/*http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Namaskar, thank you for the message, if it is provided in English, it will be easier to know the vadas to whom our own language is not known and study the sanskrit easily in our busy life Om namah sivayah sone Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj > Thursday, 25 January, 2007 10:02:26 PM Re: Re: My Rudrakshas Namaskaar As I answered this in a previous post however how many people do you think can correctly pronounce Vedic mantra simply by reading them in English ? Answer = Probably none So my humble opinion is that unless one is confident about chanting Vedic mantras, he should not venture in this. Please let us know what you think. While every effort should always be made to learn and chant Mantras correctly with proper Chanda, Swaras etc. It is to be noted that if this were absolutely the case then no mantra would ever be recited ! Let me explain, the sounds of the various aksharas that we use to compose mantras are near approximations to what the original sounds are. When you mediate upon the Bija Mantra and listen to what these sounds are in meditation you become aware that what we utter is an expressed version of the original sound. This again is dependant upon an individuals state of physical purity or impurity, state of vibration, mental purity and can change according to the perceiver. The higher your purity the better and more clearly you will be able to perceive ! Also the original sound emanates from vibrations of light, how do you recite this ? Therefore the mantras that are siddha are unique to a persons personal vibration. The sadhakas who perfect a mantra have recited the mantra to the point that they begin to vibrate at the lower frequency of the mantra and are able to tap into its power in a universal sense hence they are able to make use of it. Please note that books cannot teach a mantra correctly which is why mantras are given by Diksha. The teaching of a guru was essential to enable the Sadhaka to learn the frequency and vibration of the mantra that enabled the original seer of the mantra to master the mantra . As when Diksha is given, a portion of the Gurus consciousness is imparted to the Shisya. This is why there were lineages of gurus who learnt in succession from older gurus. Therefore if you wait until you can utter these sounds to perfection you never will practice mantras as you will always be in error to start ! What I have given are basic mantras that will not cause any harm to reciters, this does not mean that they should go about reciting carelessly but should make every effort to learn what is considered as correct for every day practice. Lastly there is a rite that is called Kshmaarpan - which is the act of asking for forgiveness from the Devi/Devata at the end of a Puja/Japa practice for defect s/mistakes made in Thought, word or deed to render all mistakes null. By praying sincerely to the Devata with feelings of humility such mistakes can be forgiven by the Devi/Devata and is an act of grace. If you feel uncomfortable with this approach then don't do it. Intention is what makes a thing successful or not. Always hold a positive attitude in things spiritual and ask for the grace of God. There is no substitute for grace of God as all that is defective can become effective by this alone. Best Regards Devindra Maharaj edj1963 (AT) comcast (DOT) net wrote: Namaskar: Thank you Sri Pandit Dev Maharaj ji for the wonderful process. The question below does raise some concern for me. Not that I am concerned with negatives per se, but anything worth doing is worth doing right and well, especially when it comes to God. What is your opinion on this, should one that is not familiar with the nuances of Sanskritam attempt such? I will give this a try after trying to learn the pronunciation provided that I won't do more harm than good. Thank you again for your answer. Om Nama Shivaya ------------ -- Original message ------------ -- "mahadevadvaita" <mahadevadvaita@ > > > Aum Sadyo Jatam Prapadhyaami Sadyojaataaya Vai Namo Namah > Bhave Bhave Naatibhave Bhavasva Maan Bhavod Bhavaaya Namah > > Aum Vaamadevaaya, Jyeshtaaya, Sreshtaaya,Rudraaya , Kaalaaya, > Kalavikaranaaya, Balavikaranaaya, Balaaya, Bala Pramathanaaya > Sarva Bhuta Damanaaya Namo Manon Manaaya Namah. > > Aum Aghorebhyo Thaghorebhyo Ghora Ghora Tarebhyo > Sarvebhyo Sarva Sarvebhyo Namaste Astu Rudra Rupebhya > > Aum Tat Purushaaya Vidmahe Mahadevaaya Dhimahi > Tanno Rudrah Prachodayat. > > Aum Ishaanah Sarvavidhyaanaam Ishvarah Sarva Bhutaa > Naam Brahmaa Dhipatir Brahmanodhipatir Brahma > Shivome Astu Sadaashivom > Namaste Sri Pandit Dev Maharaj ji, You have provided a very nice description however how many people do you think can correctly pronounce Vedic mantra simply by reading them in English ? So my humble opinion is that unless one is confid ent about chanting Vedic mantras, he should not venture in this. Please let us know what you think. regards, Om Namah Sivaya It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Toolbar. ________ India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new http://in.answers./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 You are right there are so many types one anusvaras in the vedas that i really dont know how to pronounce them...... At least i know a little .......like the ones in the rudram........and chamakam........ there is a site which tells abouts different types of vedic accents but it does not tell how to pronounce them.... here is the link to the site: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/vedicaccents.htm regards, kanishk Sone A. Gangadharan wrote: > Namaskar, > > thank you for the message, if it is provided in English, it will be > easier to know the vadas to whom our own language is not known and > study the sanskrit easily in our busy life > > Om namah sivayah > sone > > > Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj > > > Thursday, 25 January, 2007 10:02:26 PM > Re: Re: My Rudrakshas > > > Namaskaar / > > As I answered this in a previous post/ > > however how many people do you think can correctly pronounce Vedic > mantra simply by reading them in English ? > > Answer = Probably none > > So my humble opinion is that unless one is confident about chanting > Vedic mantras, he should not venture in this. Please let us know what > you think. > > While every effort should always be made to learn and chant Mantras > correctly with proper Chanda, Swaras etc. It is to be noted that if > this were absolutely the case then no mantra would ever be recited ! > > Let me explain, the sounds of the various aksharas that we use to > compose mantras are near approximations to what the original sounds > are. When you mediate upon the Bija Mantra and listen to what these > sounds are in meditation you become aware that what we utter is an > expressed version of the original sound. This again is dependant upon > an individuals state of physical purity or impurity, state of > vibration, mental purity and can change according to the perceiver. > The higher your purity the better and more clearly you will be able to > perceive ! > Also the original sound emanates from vibrations of light, how do you > recite this ? > > Therefore the mantras that are siddha are unique to a persons personal > vibration. The sadhakas who perfect a mantra have recited the mantra > to the point that they begin to vibrate at the lower frequency of the > mantra and are able to tap into its power in a universal sense hence > they are able to make use of it. > > Please note that books cannot teach a mantra correctly which is why > mantras are given by Diksha. The teaching of a guru was essential to > enable the Sadhaka to learn the frequency and vibration of the mantra > that enabled the original seer of the mantra to master the mantra . As > when Diksha is given, a portion of the Gurus consciousness is imparted > to the Shisya. This is why there were lineages of gurus who learnt in > succession from older gurus. > > Therefore if you wait until you can utter these sounds to perfection > you never will practice mantras as you will always be in error to > start ! What I have given are basic mantras that will not cause any > harm to reciters, this does not mean that they should go about > reciting carelessly but should make every effort to learn what is > considered as correct for every day practice. > > Lastly there is a rite that is called Kshmaarpan - which is the act of > asking for forgiveness from the Devi/Devata at the end of a Puja/Japa > practice for defect s/mistakes made in Thought, word or deed to render > all mistakes null. By praying sincerely to the Devata with feelings of > humility such mistakes can be forgiven by the Devi/Devata and is an > act of grace. > > If you feel uncomfortable with this approach then don't do it. > Intention is what makes a thing successful or not. Always hold a > positive attitude in things spiritual and ask for the grace of God. > There is no substitute for grace of God as all that is defective can > become effective by this alone. > > Best Regards Devindra Maharaj > */ > edj1963 (AT) comcast (DOT) net/* wrote: > > Namaskar: > > Thank you Sri Pandit Dev Maharaj ji for the wonderful process. > The question below does raise some concern for me. Not that I am > concerned with negatives per se, but anything worth doing is worth > doing right and well, especially when it comes to God. > > What is your opinion on this, should one that is not familiar with > the nuances of Sanskritam attempt such? > I will give this a try after trying to learn the pronunciation > provided that I won't do more harm than good. > > Thank you again for your answer. > > Om Nama Shivaya > > > ------------ -- Original message ------------ -- > "mahadevadvaita" <mahadevadvaita@ > > > > > > Aum Sadyo Jatam Prapadhyaami Sadyojaataaya Vai Namo Namah > > Bhave Bhave Naatibhave Bhavasva Maan Bhavod Bhavaaya Namah > > > > Aum Vaamadevaaya, Jyeshtaaya, Sreshtaaya,Rudraaya , Kaalaaya, > > Kalavikaranaaya, Balavikaranaaya, Balaaya, Bala Pramathanaaya > > Sarva Bhuta Damanaaya Namo Manon Manaaya Namah. > > > > Aum Aghorebhyo Thaghorebhyo Ghora Ghora Tarebhyo > > Sarvebhyo Sarva Sarvebhyo Namaste Astu Rudra Rupebhya > > > > Aum Tat Purushaaya Vidmahe Mahadevaaya Dhimahi > > Tanno Rudrah Prachodayat. > > > > Aum Ishaanah Sarvavidhyaanaam Ishvarah Sarva Bhutaa > > Naam Brahmaa Dhipatir Brahmanodhipatir Brahma > > Shivome Astu Sadaashivom > > > > Namaste Sri Pandit Dev Maharaj ji, You have provided a very nice > description however how many people do you think can correctly > pronounce > Vedic mantra simply by reading them in English ? So my humble > opinion is > that unless one is confid ent about chanting Vedic mantras, he > should not > venture in this. Please let us know what you think. > > regards, > > Om Namah Sivaya > > > ------ > It's here! Your new message! > Get new email alerts > <http://us.rd./evt=49938/*http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/> > with the free Toolbar. > <http://us.rd./evt=49938/*http://tools.search./toolbar/features/mail/> > > > > ------ > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > <http://us.rd./mail/in/yanswers/*http://in.answers./> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Occurs after Udatta (short) Hand moves up Sample: 1 2 3 Visarga 3 Occurs after Anudatta & Svarita (short) Hand moves down Visarga 5 Occurs after Anudatta (long) Hand moves to the right Namaskaar As you can see in the above examples, hand movements are denoted, while reciting the various directions of the hand are to be followed for expressive purposes ( emphasis, illustration etc.. ) but there is another set Variants: Sample Sample Occurs before ligatures (short) Thumb and index finger touch briefly Note that Thumb and index finder touch briefly There is a secret of reciting Veda here that is probably unknown even to many of those who currently are masters of reciting it, some may still be aware of it but only teach to Shisyas. Anusvara 3 Sample: 1 Anusvara 4 Anusvara 5 Anusvara 6 Sample: 1 2 3 Anusvara 7 Anusvara (Krishna Yajurveda) Also used in Shukla Yajurveda and Samaveda. Variant: Sample: 1 2 Long Anusvara (Krishna Yajurveda) What these above denote is the expression of energy: Ever heard the term "Fire that comes out of the mouth of a Brahmana", what it means is that when you perform required Samakaras (as required ) and Sandhya (every day), your koshas become purified and filled with light, hence your vibration is quite high as compared to others, when you speak/recite and your astral body is viewed ( in the astral plane ), it appears as if tongues of flame are emitted from your mouth-due to the enhanced energy flow. Part of the ancient training of a Mantrin / RtVik was that he would be required to mediate upon Bindu to be able to split this Bindu ( mentally ). Those who could split up to 512 times were considered as guru ( senior ). Beyond 512 you transcend your mind and attain super conscious awareness. ( this is very dangerous as if you are not prepared for it, you can go mad !) The effect of this is that with each progressive jump say from 1 to 4 (in the space of time that it would take a normal person to think 1 thought, a person who can split the Bindu to 4, can think 4 thoughts !) Therefore, when you mediate on Bindu (a spiritual dimension) you become aligned to its energy and act as a conduit for its energy to flow in your environment. However, if it not controlled it can cause disturbances in the environment, by using the variants (as above) the reciter of Veda was actually being instructed how much energy to release. This is more of a mental process and not so much verbal. This is also why people used to bow at the feet of a Brahmana, not only out of respect but because by doing do they were connecting to this flow of energy, so that they would receive this "light" - this is one of the reasons that Brahmanas were so prized and held in high esteem. Namah Sivaya Best Regards Pandit Devindra Maharaj kanishk <kc3377 > wrote: You are right there are so many types one anusvaras in the vedas that i really dont know how to pronounce them...... At least i know a little .......like the ones in the rudram........and chamakam........ there is a site which tells abouts different types of vedic accents but it does not tell how to pronounce them.... here is the link to the site: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org/Sanskrit/vedicaccents.htm regards, kanishk Sone A. Gangadharan wrote: Namaskar, thank you for the message, if it is provided in English, it will be easier to know the vadas to whom our own language is not known and study the sanskrit easily in our busy life Om namah sivayah sone Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj > Thursday, 25 January, 2007 10:02:26 PM Re: Re: My Rudrakshas Namaskaar As I answered this in a previous post however how many people do you think can correctly pronounce Vedic mantra simply by reading them in English ? Answer = Probably none So my humble opinion is that unless one is confident about chanting Vedic mantras, he should not venture in this. Please let us know what you think. While every effort should always be made to learn and chant Mantras correctly with proper Chanda, Swaras etc. It is to be noted that if this were absolutely the case then no mantra would ever be recited ! Let me explain, the sounds of the various aksharas that we use to compose mantras are near approximations to what the original sounds are. When you mediate upon the Bija Mantra and listen to what these sounds are in meditation you become aware that what we utter is an expressed version of the original sound. This again is dependant upon an individuals state of physical purity or impurity, state of vibration, mental purity and can change according to the perceiver. The higher your purity the better and more clearly you will be able to perceive ! Also the original sound emanates from vibrations of light, how do you recite this ? Therefore the mantras that are siddha are unique to a persons personal vibration. The sadhakas who perfect a mantra have recited the mantra to the point that they begin to vibrate at the lower frequency of the mantra and are able to tap into its power in a universal sense hence they are able to make use of it. Please note that books cannot teach a mantra correctly which is why mantras are given by Diksha. The teaching of a guru was essential to enable the Sadhaka to learn the frequency and vibration of the mantra that enabled the original seer of the mantra to master the mantra . As when Diksha is given, a portion of the Gurus consciousness is imparted to the Shisya. This is why there were lineages of gurus who learnt in succession from older gurus. Therefore if you wait until you can utter these sounds to perfection you never will practice mantras as you will always be in error to start ! What I have given are basic mantras that will not cause any harm to reciters, this does not mean that they should go about reciting carelessly but should make every effort to learn what is considered as correct for every day practice. Lastly there is a rite that is called Kshmaarpan - which is the act of asking for forgiveness from the Devi/Devata at the end of a Puja/Japa practice for defect s/mistakes made in Thought, word or deed to render all mistakes null. By praying sincerely to the Devata with feelings of humility such mistakes can be forgiven by the Devi/Devata and is an act of grace. If you feel uncomfortable with this approach then don't do it. Intention is what makes a thing successful or not. Always hold a positive attitude in things spiritual and ask for the grace of God. There is no substitute for grace of God as all that is defective can become effective by this alone. Best Regards Devindra Maharaj edj1963 (AT) comcast (DOT) net wrote: Namaskar: Thank you Sri Pandit Dev Maharaj ji for the wonderful process. The question below does raise some concern for me. Not that I am concerned with negatives per se, but anything worth doing is worth doing right and well, especially when it comes to God. What is your opinion on this, should one that is not familiar with the nuances of Sanskritam attempt such? I will give this a try after trying to learn the pronunciation provided that I won't do more harm than good. Thank you again for your answer. Om Nama Shivaya ------------ -- Original message ------------ -- "mahadevadvaita" <mahadevadvaita@ > > > Aum Sadyo Jatam Prapadhyaami Sadyojaataaya Vai Namo Namah > Bhave Bhave Naatibhave Bhavasva Maan Bhavod Bhavaaya Namah > > Aum Vaamadevaaya, Jyeshtaaya, Sreshtaaya,Rudraaya , Kaalaaya, > Kalavikaranaaya, Balavikaranaaya, Balaaya, Bala Pramathanaaya > Sarva Bhuta Damanaaya Namo Manon Manaaya Namah. > > Aum Aghorebhyo Thaghorebhyo Ghora Ghora Tarebhyo > Sarvebhyo Sarva Sarvebhyo Namaste Astu Rudra Rupebhya > > Aum Tat Purushaaya Vidmahe Mahadevaaya Dhimahi > Tanno Rudrah Prachodayat. > > Aum Ishaanah Sarvavidhyaanaam Ishvarah Sarva Bhutaa > Naam Brahmaa Dhipatir Brahmanodhipatir Brahma > Shivome Astu Sadaashivom > Namaste Sri Pandit Dev Maharaj ji, You have provided a very nice description however how many people do you think can correctly pronounce Vedic mantra simply by reading them in English ? So my humble opinion is that unless one is confid ent about chanting Vedic mantras, he should not venture in this. Please let us know what you think. regards, Om Namah Sivaya It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Toolbar. Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Never miss an email again! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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