Guest guest Posted January 20, 2007 Report Share Posted January 20, 2007 Its all marketing. Big and small and medium are all great! - hrishi2403 Friday, January 19, 2007 5:14 PM Difference between Giant and Collector Beads If I am not mistaken, beads above 30 mm are considered as Collector beads while 40 mm + becomes a Giant bead. It is mentioned on sites, that Collector beads are more powerful and emit high energy. Where does this place Giant beads ? Are they more powerful and effective than Collector beads ? thanks Rishi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Dear Hrishi, Frankly speaking it is all commercialism. I am also in the Rudraksha business, however, I have to comment of wrong practices in this trade. All type of beads, whether they are of regular, collector or giant type are equally powerful. Higher mukhi regular grade beads are of the size 18 to 25 mm. Generally, in this grade, beads of 20 mm. are sold. Collector grade beads are from 25 mm to 30 mm. However, giant size beads are 30mm and above. The giant sized beads above 40mm are extremely rare. Few traders sell beads upto 32 mm. under collector grade. In Shiva Purana, there are mantras to support both the types of beads. One mantra mentions that smaller is the better, however, the other mantra mentions that larger are better. Indonesian beads are smaller in size and mainly used in malas which are more convinient to wear. Thanking you and with best wishes, Chandrashekhar Phadke Chandrashekhar Phadke hrishi2403 <hrishi2403 > wrote: If I am not mistaken, beads above 30 mm are considered as Collector beads while 40 mm + becomes a Giant bead. It is mentioned on sites, that Collector beads are more powerful and emit high energy. Where does this place Giant beads ? Are they more powerful and effective than Collector beads ? thanks Rishi Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 Chandrashekharji speaks well and clear...as always. Jai Mahadev! - chandrashekhar phadke Sunday, January 21, 2007 10:20 PM Re: Difference between Giant and Collector Beads Dear Hrishi, Frankly speaking it is all commercialism. I am also in the Rudraksha business, however, I have to comment of wrong practices in this trade. All type of beads, whether they are of regular, collector or giant type are equally powerful. Higher mukhi regular grade beads are of the size 18 to 25 mm. Generally, in this grade, beads of 20 mm. are sold. Collector grade beads are from 25 mm to 30 mm. However, giant size beads are 30mm and above. The giant sized beads above 40mm are extremely rare. Few traders sell beads upto 32 mm. under collector grade. In Shiva Purana, there are mantras to support both the types of beads. One mantra mentions that smaller is the better, however, the other mantra mentions that larger are better. Indonesian beads are smaller in size and mainly used in malas which are more convinient to wear. Thanking you and with best wishes, Chandrashekhar Phadke Chandrashekhar Phadke hrishi2403 <hrishi2403 > wrote: If I am not mistaken, beads above 30 mm are considered as Collector beads while 40 mm + becomes a Giant bead. It is mentioned on sites, that Collector beads are more powerful and emit high energy. Where does this place Giant beads ? Are they more powerful and effective than Collector beads ? thanks Rishi Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 I like this forum... In the other one, its always bigger is better and it's claimed that the ancient books were unanimous about it. Andrew --- Mahamuni Das <mahamuni (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote: > Chandrashekharji speaks well and clear...as always. > > Jai Mahadev! > > - > chandrashekhar phadke > > Sunday, January 21, 2007 10:20 PM > Re: Difference > between Giant and Collector Beads > > > Dear Hrishi, > > Frankly speaking it is all commercialism. I am > also in the Rudraksha business, however, I have to > comment of wrong practices in this trade. All type > of beads, whether they are of regular, collector or > giant type are equally powerful. > > Higher mukhi regular grade beads are of the size > 18 to 25 mm. Generally, in this grade, beads of 20 > mm. are sold. > > Collector grade beads are from 25 mm to 30 mm. > However, giant size beads are 30mm and above. The > giant sized beads above 40mm are extremely rare. Few > traders sell beads upto 32 mm. under collector > grade. > > In Shiva Purana, there are mantras to support both > the types of beads. One mantra mentions that smaller > is the better, however, the other mantra mentions > that larger are better. > > Indonesian beads are smaller in size and mainly > used in malas which are more convinient to wear. > > Thanking you and with best wishes, > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > hrishi2403 <hrishi2403 > wrote: > If I am not mistaken, beads above 30 mm are > considered as Collector beads while 40 mm + > becomes a Giant bead. > > It is mentioned on sites, that Collector beads are > more powerful and emit high energy. Where > does this place Giant beads ? Are they more > powerful and effective than Collector beads ? > > thanks > > Rishi > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - > Answers > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2007 Report Share Posted January 22, 2007 All marketing BS. Both have their place and qualities. All are just aids. You can't buy your way to God. You can't lead an unrighteous life and wear a rudraksha and think all will be okay. Even if a scripture said this, I would not buy it. I think rudraksha are amazing. But many saints have achieved the ultimate without them and many that wear them have not. BOM! Surya - Andrew Ng Monday, January 22, 2007 1:41 AM Re: Difference between Giant and Collector Beads I like this forum... In the other one, its always bigger is better and it's claimed that the ancient books were unanimous about it. Andrew --- Mahamuni Das <mahamuni (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote: > Chandrashekharji speaks well and clear...as always. > > Jai Mahadev! > > - > chandrashekhar phadke > > Sunday, January 21, 2007 10:20 PM > Re: Difference > between Giant and Collector Beads > > > Dear Hrishi, > > Frankly speaking it is all commercialism. I am > also in the Rudraksha business, however, I have to > comment of wrong practices in this trade. All type > of beads, whether they are of regular, collector or > giant type are equally powerful. > > Higher mukhi regular grade beads are of the size > 18 to 25 mm. Generally, in this grade, beads of 20 > mm. are sold. > > Collector grade beads are from 25 mm to 30 mm. > However, giant size beads are 30mm and above. The > giant sized beads above 40mm are extremely rare. Few > traders sell beads upto 32 mm. under collector > grade. > > In Shiva Purana, there are mantras to support both > the types of beads. One mantra mentions that smaller > is the better, however, the other mantra mentions > that larger are better. > > Indonesian beads are smaller in size and mainly > used in malas which are more convinient to wear. > > Thanking you and with best wishes, > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > hrishi2403 <hrishi2403 > wrote: > If I am not mistaken, beads above 30 mm are > considered as Collector beads while 40 mm + > becomes a Giant bead. > > It is mentioned on sites, that Collector beads are > more powerful and emit high energy. Where > does this place Giant beads ? Are they more > powerful and effective than Collector beads ? > > thanks > > Rishi > > > > Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - > Answers > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ________ Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 Phadkeji, I think you had written somewhere that Indonesian beads, smaller is better while in Nepal beads the bigger is better. Was this just wrt to pricing and not effectiveness ? regards Rishi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Dear Rishi, Thank you very much for your mail. It is believed that rudraksha of both the types whether Nepal or Indonesian are equally effective. There are controvertial shlokas in Jabalopanishad and Shiva Purana regarding effectiveness related to bead size. Jabalonishad states that larger the bead, more it is effective. However, Shivapurana mentions that smaller the bead, more it is effective. By mistake I had mentioned in my recent posting that both the views are expressed in the Shiva-Purana. The shlokas are as under : Larger Rudraksha are better : ll Dhatriphala Pramanam Yat Shreyshthametdahatam ll ll Badariphalam Pramanam Tu Prochyate Madhyamam Budheehi ll ll Adhamam Chanamatram Syat Pratidnyeesha Mayodita ll From : Jabalopanishad Rudraksha of the size of Gooseberry or Amla (Dhatriphala) is most powerful. Rudraksha of the size of a Ber (Badariphalam) is of medium power. Rudraksha of the size of Peas (Chanamatram) is less powerful. In brief, larger rudraksha is more powerful than the smaller one. Smaller Rudraksha are better : ll Yatha Yatha Laghuhu Syahee Tathadhikaphalapradha ll ll Ekaikatha Phalam Proktam Dashansheeradhikam Budheehi ll From : Shivapurana Rudraksha power goes on increasing in relation to decrease in size. In brief, smallest Rudraksha is more powerful than the larger one. Rudraksha pricing is different for Nepal and Indonesian beads. Nepal rudraksha of larger size are more costly than the smaller ones. However, in case of Indonesian beads, smaller the bead is more is its cost. I have to add here about rudraksha measurements. Conventially, for Nepal beads, one should take diameter of the round bead at its centre (the central channel for threading being perpendicular to the diameter) and minimum length between the two points in case of higher mukhi oblong beads. It has been observed that few traders measure this distance with curvature of the bead fooling their customers. Maximum bead diameter in case of Nepal 5 and 6 mukhi is not more than 25 mm. Rarely, 5 and 6 mukhi beads showing more height than its diameter have been observed. In such cases, few traders, mention bead height as bead mesurement fooling their customers. In case of Indonesian beads, the smallest beads are not perfectly round but are discoid. In such case, height or the thickness of the bead is always smaller than that of its diameter. For eg. smallest Indonesian rudraksha is apporx. 5mm in diameter and 2mm. in its thickness. Few traders fool their customers by mentioning bead thickness as the bead size i.e 2mm bead which is in fact, 5mm, bead. I have also seen that few traders sell 6mm. bead instead of 5mm. bead. The price difference is double. Cost of 5mm Indonesian Kantha of 109 beads is approx. Rs. 2000/-, however, of 6mm. beads is Rs. 900/- only. It is therefore necessary that the customer should insist their traders to mention about whether it is diameter, thickness or length ? Whether it is minimum distance betweent the two points or the distance between the two points with curvature ? Thanking you and with best wishes, Chandrashekhar Phadke hrishi2403 <hrishi2403 > wrote: Phadkeji, I think you had written somewhere that Indonesian beads, smaller is better while in Nepal beads the bigger is better. Was this just wrt to pricing and not effectiveness ? regards Rishi Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 Well said and very informative--as always! Thanks and Pranams, Surya - chandrashekhar phadke Wednesday, January 31, 2007 2:32 AM Re: Re: Difference between Giant and Collector Beads Dear Rishi, Thank you very much for your mail. It is believed that rudraksha of both the types whether Nepal or Indonesian are equally effective. There are controvertial shlokas in Jabalopanishad and Shiva Purana regarding effectiveness related to bead size. Jabalonishad states that larger the bead, more it is effective. However, Shivapurana mentions that smaller the bead, more it is effective. By mistake I had mentioned in my recent posting that both the views are expressed in the Shiva-Purana. The shlokas are as under : Larger Rudraksha are better : ll Dhatriphala Pramanam Yat Shreyshthametdahatam ll ll Badariphalam Pramanam Tu Prochyate Madhyamam Budheehi ll ll Adhamam Chanamatram Syat Pratidnyeesha Mayodita ll From : Jabalopanishad Rudraksha of the size of Gooseberry or Amla (Dhatriphala) is most powerful. Rudraksha of the size of a Ber (Badariphalam) is of medium power. Rudraksha of the size of Peas (Chanamatram) is less powerful. In brief, larger rudraksha is more powerful than the smaller one. Smaller Rudraksha are better : ll Yatha Yatha Laghuhu Syahee Tathadhikaphalapradha ll ll Ekaikatha Phalam Proktam Dashansheeradhikam Budheehi ll From : Shivapurana Rudraksha power goes on increasing in relation to decrease in size. In brief, smallest Rudraksha is more powerful than the larger one. Rudraksha pricing is different for Nepal and Indonesian beads. Nepal rudraksha of larger size are more costly than the smaller ones. However, in case of Indonesian beads, smaller the bead is more is its cost. I have to add here about rudraksha measurements. Conventially, for Nepal beads, one should take diameter of the round bead at its centre (the central channel for threading being perpendicular to the diameter) and minimum length between the two points in case of higher mukhi oblong beads. It has been observed that few traders measure this distance with curvature of the bead fooling their customers. Maximum bead diameter in case of Nepal 5 and 6 mukhi is not more than 25 mm. Rarely, 5 and 6 mukhi beads showing more height than its diameter have been observed. In such cases, few traders, mention bead height as bead mesurement fooling their customers. In case of Indonesian beads, the smallest beads are not perfectly round but are discoid. In such case, height or the thickness of the bead is always smaller than that of its diameter. For eg. smallest Indonesian rudraksha is apporx. 5mm in diameter and 2mm. in its thickness. Few traders fool their customers by mentioning bead thickness as the bead size i.e 2mm bead which is in fact, 5mm, bead. I have also seen that few traders sell 6mm. bead instead of 5mm. bead. The price difference is double. Cost of 5mm Indonesian Kantha of 109 beads is approx. Rs. 2000/-, however, of 6mm. beads is Rs. 900/- only. It is therefore necessary that the customer should insist their traders to mention about whether it is diameter, thickness or length ? Whether it is minimum distance betweent the two points or the distance between the two points with curvature ? Thanking you and with best wishes, Chandrashekhar Phadke hrishi2403 <hrishi2403 > wrote: Phadkeji, I think you had written somewhere that Indonesian beads, smaller is better while in Nepal beads the bigger is better. Was this just wrt to pricing and not effectiveness ? regards Rishi Here's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2007 Report Share Posted January 31, 2007 thank you for clearing my doubts ; that was really the last word regards Rishi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2007 Report Share Posted February 1, 2007 Ooo.. Didn't know about this. Andrew --- chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > I have to add here about rudraksha measurements. > Conventially, for Nepal beads, one should take > diameter of the round bead at its centre (the > central channel for threading being perpendicular > to the diameter) and minimum length between the two > points in case of higher mukhi oblong beads. It has > been observed that few traders measure this distance > with curvature of the bead fooling their customers. Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Games. http://games./games/front Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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