Guest guest Posted January 15, 2007 Report Share Posted January 15, 2007 Namaste Jyotishers, My name isVladimir Mendoza, I live in Lima-Peru-Southamerica. I am very interested in astrological researchs about History. I need support for this project. I need travel to India for dedicate the rest of my life in histo-astrological researchs, under your guidance. I give my DOB for your analisis and evaluation, 23 april1979, 3:10 am Tumbes, Peru. I am send you a sample of my work in histo-astrological researchs. Thanks for your time. SATURNO AND KETU IN LEO Write for: Vladimir Mendoza B. February 3, 1802 - August 25, 1803 Some events important in this period were: 1) The Treaty of Amiens (was signed on March 25, 1802) The planetary positions at 12:00 were: Sun 13 Pi 00' 03.92" UBha Moon 23 Sc 46' 15.40" Jye Mars 0 Aq 16' 31.85" Dhan Mercury ® 22 Aq 30' 04.55" PBha Jupiter ® 5 Le 49' 29.97" Magh Venus 14 Pi 54' 00.67" UBha Saturn ® 10 Le 47' 59.51" Rahu 29 Aq 04' 26.33" PBha Ketu 29 Le 04' 26.33" UPha 2) War between Great Britain and France recommenced on May 18, 1803 The planetary positions at 12:00 were: Sun 5 Ta 20' 48.28" Krit Moon 29 Pi 54' 05.71" Reva Mars 12 Cn 28' 58.32" Push Mercury 21 Ta 41' 15.56" Rohi Júpiter ® 4 Vi 52' 30.98" UPha Venus 27 Pi 36' 34.58" Reva Saturn 22 Le 45' 27.79" PPha Rahu 6 Aq 52' 19.64" Sata Ketu 6 Le 52' 19.64" Magh 3) François-Dominique Toussaint L'Ouverture, also Toussaint Bréda, Toussaint-Louverture is captured in Junio 7, 1802. He was one of the leaders of the Haïtian Revolution. Along with Jean-Jacques Dessalines, another leader of the Revolution, L'Ouverture is considered as one of the fathers of the Haitian nation. The astrological chart at 12:00 is: Sun 25 Ta 00' 11.32" Mrig Moon 15 Le 33' 37.57" PPha Mars 26 Pi 46' 54.69" Reva Mercury 15 Ge 09' 10.54" Ardr Jupiter 7 Le 38' 14.60" Magh Venus 16 Ge 12' 26.29" Ardr Saturn 10 Le 37' 37.26" Magh Rahu 25 Aq 08' 29.29" PBha Ketu 25 Le 08' 29.29" PPha 4) Edward Despard and six others are hanged (February 21, 1803), drawn and quartered for plotting to assassinate king George III and to destroy the Bank of England. See the chart at 12:00... Sun 10 Aq 51' 08.31" Sata Moon 5 Aq 23' 22.95" Dhan Mars 5 Ge 20' 41.20" Mrig Mercury ® 15 Aq 37' 56.01" Sata Jupiter ® 13 Vi 15' 42.06" Hast Venus 25 Sg 52' 11.32" PSha Saturn ® 27 Le 24' 32.90" UPha Rahu 11 Aq 25' 32.90" Sata Ketu 11 Le 25' 32.90" Magh Historical and Astrological Outlook First Chart: The Treaty of Amiens was signed on March 25, 1802 by Joseph Bonaparte and the Marquess Cornwallis as a "Definitive Treaty of Peace" between France and the United Kingdom. Under the treaty, the United Kingdom recognised the French Republic; the consequent peace, which lasted only one year, was the only period during which the United Kingdom was not at war with France during the so-called 'Great French War'. However, objections to the treaty quickly grew in the United Kingdom, especially as it seemed that the UK was making all the concessions. In addition, Bonaparte had interfered with the Batavian and Cisalpine Republics and sent troops into Switzerland, breaking earlier treaties. Concerns were also raised by the sending of a major French Army to the Caribbean island of Santo Domingo, where it reimposed slavery and cracked down on the independence movement. As a result the British Government balked at implementing certain terms, such as evacuating their military presence from Malta, due to this French refusal to respect other terms of the treaty. Despite appeals from French Foreign Minster Talleyrand, Bonaparte refused to concede much, especially as it was rumoured that he had designs on Egypt again. As a result Addington strengthened the Royal Navy, and imposed a blockade of France. The astrologycal configuration for the Treaty of Amiens show a weak tendency in relation to keep the peace among France and UK. >> The axis Leo-Aquairus contain 3 negative elements: Mars-Rahu versus Saturn-Ketu. Remember that Leo-Aquarius are linked to honor and revolutionary thought. the Treaty always seemed unlikely to endure: it satisfied neither side, and both sides dishonoured parts of it. >> Here, Jupiter is the planet that permit to enter into a treaty. Mercury have a important communicative role. For Moon in Jyestha the lord of dasa is Mercury. >> Observe the degrees, Mars 00°28' and Rahu 29°27', they are distant, it decrease the conflictive aspect among Rahu and Mars. The axis Rahu-Ketu enter to Aquarius-Leo in february 3, 1802, around fifty days. Mars enter to Aquarius the same day, March 25, at 3:40 AM. >> The Moon in Scorpio (weakening) is other factor that not support promote a long-lasting treaty. >> Observe that from the Moon, Aquarius is fourth house ( land, territory, etc) and Leo is tenth house (government and politics). >> From the Moon, Mars seem represent France, then Venus represent UK. Why? Observe that Mars come of a strong location in Capricorn (exaltation), as well as the victory of Napoleon against the Second Coalition: Holy Roman/Austrian Empire (at war with France since 1792) French Royalists, Kingdom of Great Britain (at war with France since 1793), Kingdom of Naples and Sicily (had been war with France 1793-96), Russian Empire and Ottoman Empire. >> From the Moon, Venus is in connection with the Sun, planet linked to lion and the lion is a symbol of UK. Being this the case, the peace have precarius condition. Second Chart: >> Observe that Jupiter left Leo and enter to Virgo in October 2, 1802. There is not diplomacy for support peace. >> Mars in Cancer, weak, in twelfth house from Saturno-Ketu. Mars move on to a confrotation with Saturn. Is a resistent confrotation since Mars in Leo is strong, but Ketu-Saturn are complicated of defeat. >> I am put the Moon in Aries (enter after 11:09 AM, Paris) since it was a continuous period of warfare until November 20, 1815. Whereas Moon in Piscis not involve the same tendency. >> From Moon in Aries, Mars is again Napoleon and Venus is again UK. Observe that from first day of the conflict with UK, Napoleon have a problem with WATER element (Mars weakened in Cancer) and water is linked to naval fleet. For conquer UK, Napoleon must however, in order to mount his invasion, to achieve naval superiority — or at least to pull the British fleet away from the English Channel. >> Observe Venus (UK) in exaltation in Piscis, a water sign. Furthermore Jupiter in Virgo is in aspect to Venus. Naval superiority of UK was obvious. >> The lord of dasa for Moon in ashwini is Ketu (with Saturn in Leo). Remember: dasa of Ketu = 7 years; dasa of Venus = 20 years. From May 1803 to Nov 1815, there is aproximately 12 years 6 months. That is Napoleon was defeated in Venus's dasa (Venus = UK). Third Chart: Napoléon Bonaparte, dont le pouvoir en France s'accroissait, était désireux de restaurer la domination des colons français afin de faire refleurir l'économie sucrière. Une armée de 25 000 hommes sous la direction de son beau-frère, le général Leclerc, fut envoyée à Saint-Domingue en décembre 1801 pour faire tenir la promesse de Toussaint de rétablir les colons et, officieusement, rétablir l'esclavage. Toussaint n'était pas dupe. Il mena une guerre de repli, brûlant les villes devant l'arrivée des troupes françaises fin janvier 1802. Leclerc vainquit les troupes de Dessalines, puis celles de Christophe. Ayant ramené avec lui les enfants de Toussaint, il les lui envoya, en signe d'apaisement. Le 2 mai 1802, Toussaint offrit sa reddition contre sa liberté et l'intégration de ses troupes dans l'armée française. Leclerc ne s'en tint pas là. Capturé par ruse le 7 juin 1802, Toussaint fut envoyé en France avec sa famille. A son embarquement, il prédit : "En me renversant, on n'a abattu que le tronc de l'arbre de la liberté des nègres. Celui-ci repoussera par les racines, parce qu'elles sont profondes et nombreuses." Il fut enfermé au Fort de Joux dans les montagnes du Jura, la plus froide région de France. Il y mourut le 7 avril 1803. Les Français ne réussirent pas à rétablir l'esclavage à Saint-Domingue. Grâce à la puissance militaire construite sous Toussaint, les noirs triomphèrent sur eux à la bataille de Vertières en 1803. Le 1er janvier 1804, leur nouveau chef, Jean-Jacques Dessalines, proclama l'indépendance du pays qu'il baptisa de son nom indien : Haïti. >> 7 June, 1803. Observe the Moon in Leo with malefic Ketu and Saturn, but the presence of Jupiter obsctruct the death of Toussaint. In the natal chart of Toussaint Saturn-Mars-Jupiter is in Leo. See it... (at 12:00) Sun 8 Ta 49' 51.35" Krit Moon 26 Pi 30' 10.77" Reva Mars 9 Le 55' 16.37" Magh Mercury 15 Ta 19' 05.09" Rohi Jupiter 14 Le 33' 10.21" PPha Venus 8 Ge 54' 28.15" Ardr Saturn 8 Le 52' 08.64" Magh Rahu 28 Ar 01' 28.56" Krit Ketu 28 Li 01' 28.56" Visa >> Observe that in the capture chart the Moon is lord of 12 th in 1th, involved the journey (by sea = Cancer is water sign) to France and the consequent death in relation to adverse climatic conditions (cold). >> Consider the yogakaraka for Moon in Leo is Mars and Mars is in aspect to Venus-Mercury in Geminis, and Geminis is 11th, friend, social group, etc. It is linked to Jean-Jacques Dessalines, He served as an officer in the French army and later rose to become a commander in the revolt against the same colonial power. As Toussaint L'Ouverture's principal lieutenant, he led many successful engagements. In his natal chart, Dessalines have a Mars-Mercury conjunction in Libra (sign of the Venus). See it... (at 12:00) Sun 7 Vi 05' 19.41" UPha Moon 23 Ar 36' 28.91" Bhar Mars 15 Li 39' 41.55" Swat Mercury 0 Li 46' 03.62" Chit Jupiter 22 Sc 19' 18.24" Jye Venus 9 Le 19' 25.04" Magh Saturn ® 8 Aq 14' 09.90" Sata Rahu 1 Cn 09' 44.07" Puna Ketu 1 Cp 09' 44.07" USha >>The prediction of Toussaint was rigth and have an important astrological connection. Haiti declared its independence on January 1, 1804. Sun 19 Sg 02' 45.43" PSha Moon 13 Le 22' 06.46" PPha Mars 12 Sg 26' 14.36" Mool Mercury 27 Sg 05' 22.98" USha Jupiter 11 Li 03' 02.82" Swat Venus 8 Cp 20' 00.97" USha Saturn 12 Vi 20' 03.11" Hast Rahu 24 Cp 46' 30.03" Dhan Ketu 24 Cn 46' 30.03" Asre - Observe that the Moon is in Leo, the same sign of the capture of Toussaint, after 21 lunar cycles. - Saturn left Leo (August 26, 1803). Ketu is in Cancer and Rahu in Capricorn ( October 17, 1803). The malefics "liberate" to the Moon in Leo. Consider that the the Battle of Vertières, the last major battle of the Second War of Haitian Independence, the final part of the Haitian Revolution. It was fought between Haitian rebels and French expeditionary forces on November 18, 1803. That is after the malefic planets go out of Leo. - Consider the position of the Moon in sagittarius in November 18, 1803. Sagittarius is the opposite sign to Geminis, where Venus-Mercury conjunction (with aspect from Mars) is present in the capture of Toussaint. It makes senses since the victory was obtain for Dessalines, a comrade of Toussaint in the fight. Fourth Chart: In late 1802 he was named by government informers and disaffected soldiers as a member of a conspiracy engaged in a plot to seize the Tower of London and Bank of England and assassinate George III. The evidence was thin but Despard was arrested and prosecuted by Attorney General Spencer Perceval, before Lord Ellenborough, the Lord Chief Justice. Despite a dramatic appearance by Lord Nelson as character witness on his behalf, Despard was found guilty by the jury of high treason, and sentenced, with six of his fellow-conspirators (John Wood and John Francis, both privates in the army, carpenter Thomas Broughton, shoemaker James Sedgwick Wratton, slater Arthur Graham, and John Macnamara),[1] to be hanged, drawn and quartered. These were the last men to be so sentenced in England, although prior to execution the sentence was commuted to simple hanging and beheading, amid fears that the draconian punishment might spark public dissent. Despard was executed on the roof of the gatehouse at Horsemonger Lane Gaol, in front of a crowd of at least 20,000 spectators, on 21 February 1803. >> Is a especial cancellation of karmik reactions since Rahu-Ketu have a important presence in the event. Observe that Sun-Moon in New Moon tendency. >> Dasa of Mars and after, dasa of Rahu. Indicate a next reencarnation very infortunate... perhaps some period in the Patalas?. >> Take notice of the resemblance with the astrological chart (of death) of Augusto Pinochet (dictator of Chile). See the chart with the time and location right. Sun 24 Sc 33' 18.08" Jye Moon 3 Le 53' 13.35" Magh Mars 9 Sc 14' 38.40" Anu Mercury 9 Sc 43' 40.61" Anu Jupiter 9 Sc 42' 35.98" Anu Venus 5 Sg 24' 50.49" Mool Saturn ® 1 Le 05' 47.25" Magh Rahu 26 Aq 50' 28.04" PBha Ketu 26 Le 50' 28.04" UPha Augusto José Ramón Pinochet Ugarte was a general and President of Chile. Pinochet led a military junta to power in 1973, through a coup d'état, deposing the democratically-elected Socialist President Salvador Allende and establishing a military government. In 1974, Pinochet appointed himself President and remained in power until 1990. His coup d'etat generate the death of the socialist president Allende. For me, this deaths are specially karmik deaths. 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Guest guest Posted January 18, 2007 Report Share Posted January 18, 2007 Dear Vladimir Mendoza Balcazar, Hola & bien dias, I have gone through your aricle. You have very good insight in studying and analysing the astrological effects on important periods and persons in history. This is indeed very commendable and very rarely touched by normal astrologers. As far as I know Guru Sanjay Rath in India can be a great guide and help for you in this field of applied astrology. Gracious. Raj Bhardwaj Sh Aditya Jyotish Kendra Panchkula , "Vladimir Mendoza Balcazar" <vladi98mb wrote: > > > Namaste Jyotishers, My name isVladimir Mendoza, I live in > Lima-Peru-Southamerica. I am very interested in astrological researchs > about History. I need support for this project. I need travel to India > for dedicate the rest of my life in histo-astrological researchs, under > your guidance. I give my DOB for your analisis and evaluation, 23 > april1979, 3:10 am Tumbes, Peru. > > I am send you a sample of my work in histo-astrological researchs. > > Thanks for your time. > > > > > > SATURNO AND KETU > > IN LEO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Write for: > > Vladimir Mendoza B. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > February 3, 1802 - August 25, 1803 > > > > Some events important in this period were: > > > > 1) The Treaty of Amiens (was signed on March 25, 1802) > > > > The planetary positions at 12:00 were: > > > > Sun 13 Pi 00' 03.92" UBha > > Moon 23 Sc 46' 15.40" Jye > > Mars 0 Aq 16' 31.85" Dhan > > Mercury ® 22 Aq 30' 04.55" PBha > > Jupiter ® 5 Le 49' 29.97" Magh > > Venus 14 Pi 54' 00.67" UBha > > Saturn ® 10 Le 47' 59.51" > > Rahu 29 Aq 04' 26.33" PBha > > Ketu 29 Le 04' 26.33" UPha > > > > 2) War between Great Britain and France recommenced on May 18, 1803 > > > > The planetary positions at 12:00 were: > > > > Sun 5 Ta 20' 48.28" Krit > > Moon 29 Pi 54' 05.71" Reva > > Mars 12 Cn 28' 58.32" Push > > Mercury 21 Ta 41' 15.56" Rohi > > Júpiter ® 4 Vi 52' 30.98" UPha > > Venus 27 Pi 36' 34.58" Reva > > Saturn 22 Le 45' 27.79" PPha > > Rahu 6 Aq 52' 19.64" Sata > > Ketu 6 Le 52' 19.64" Magh > > > > > > 3) François-Dominique Toussaint L'Ouverture, also Toussaint Bréda, > Toussaint-Louverture is captured in Junio 7, 1802. He was one of the > leaders of the Haïtian Revolution. Along with Jean-Jacques > Dessalines, another leader of the Revolution, L'Ouverture is considered > as one of the fathers of the Haitian nation. The astrological chart at > 12:00 is: > > > > Sun 25 Ta 00' 11.32" Mrig > > Moon 15 Le 33' 37.57" PPha > > Mars 26 Pi 46' 54.69" Reva > > Mercury 15 Ge 09' 10.54" Ardr > > Jupiter 7 Le 38' 14.60" Magh > > Venus 16 Ge 12' 26.29" Ardr > > Saturn 10 Le 37' 37.26" Magh > > Rahu 25 Aq 08' 29.29" PBha > > Ketu 25 Le 08' 29.29" PPha > > 4) Edward Despard and six others are hanged (February 21, 1803), drawn > and quartered for plotting to assassinate king George III and to destroy > the Bank of England. See the chart at 12:00... > > > > Sun 10 Aq 51' 08.31" Sata > > Moon 5 Aq 23' 22.95" Dhan > > Mars 5 Ge 20' 41.20" Mrig > > Mercury ® 15 Aq 37' 56.01" Sata > > Jupiter ® 13 Vi 15' 42.06" Hast > > Venus 25 Sg 52' 11.32" PSha > > Saturn ® 27 Le 24' 32.90" UPha > > Rahu 11 Aq 25' 32.90" Sata > > Ketu 11 Le 25' 32.90" Magh > > > > > > Historical and Astrological Outlook > > > > First Chart: > > > > The Treaty of Amiens was signed on March 25, 1802 by Joseph Bonaparte > and the Marquess Cornwallis as a "Definitive Treaty of Peace" between > France and the United Kingdom. Under the treaty, the United Kingdom > recognised the French Republic; the consequent peace, which lasted only > one year, was the only period during which the United Kingdom was not at > war with France during the so-called 'Great French War'. > > > > However, objections to the treaty quickly grew in the United Kingdom, > especially as it seemed that the UK was making all the concessions. In > addition, Bonaparte had interfered with the Batavian and Cisalpine > Republics and sent troops into Switzerland, breaking earlier treaties. > Concerns were also raised by the sending of a major French Army to the > Caribbean island of Santo Domingo, where it reimposed slavery and > cracked down on the independence movement. As a result the British > Government balked at implementing certain terms, such as evacuating > their military presence from Malta, due to this French refusal to > respect other terms of the treaty. Despite appeals from French Foreign > Minster Talleyrand, Bonaparte refused to concede much, especially as it > was rumoured that he had designs on Egypt again. As a result Addington > strengthened the Royal Navy, and imposed a blockade of France. > > > > The astrologycal configuration for the Treaty of Amiens show a weak > tendency in relation to keep the peace among France and UK. > > > > >> The axis Leo-Aquairus contain 3 negative elements: Mars-Rahu versus > Saturn-Ketu. Remember that Leo-Aquarius are linked to honor and > revolutionary thought. the Treaty always seemed unlikely to endure: it > satisfied neither side, and both sides dishonoured parts of it. > > > > >> Here, Jupiter is the planet that permit to enter into a treaty. > Mercury have a important communicative role. For Moon in Jyestha the > lord of dasa is Mercury. > > > > >> Observe the degrees, Mars 00°28' and Rahu 29°27', they are > distant, it decrease the conflictive aspect among Rahu and Mars. The > axis Rahu-Ketu enter to Aquarius-Leo in february 3, 1802, around fifty > days. Mars enter to Aquarius the same day, March 25, at 3:40 AM. > > > > >> The Moon in Scorpio (weakening) is other factor that not support > promote a long-lasting treaty. > > > > >> Observe that from the Moon, Aquarius is fourth house ( land, > territory, etc) and Leo is tenth house (government and politics). > > > > >> From the Moon, Mars seem represent France, then Venus represent UK. > Why? Observe that Mars come of a strong location in Capricorn > (exaltation), as well as the victory of Napoleon against the Second > Coalition: Holy Roman/Austrian Empire (at war with France since 1792) > French Royalists, Kingdom of Great Britain (at war with France since > 1793), Kingdom of Naples and Sicily (had been war with France 1793-96), > Russian Empire and Ottoman Empire. > > > > >> From the Moon, Venus is in connection with the Sun, planet linked to > lion and the lion is a symbol of UK. > > > > Being this the case, the peace have precarius condition. > > > > Second Chart: > > > > >> Observe that Jupiter left Leo and enter to Virgo in October 2, 1802. > There is not diplomacy for support peace. > > > > >> Mars in Cancer, weak, in twelfth house from Saturno-Ketu. Mars move > on to a confrotation with Saturn. Is a resistent confrotation since Mars > in Leo is strong, but Ketu-Saturn are complicated of defeat. > > > > >> I am put the Moon in Aries (enter after 11:09 AM, Paris) since it was > a continuous period of warfare until November 20, 1815. Whereas Moon in > Piscis not involve the same tendency. > > > > >> From Moon in Aries, Mars is again Napoleon and Venus is again UK. > Observe that from first day of the conflict with UK, Napoleon have a > problem with WATER element (Mars weakened in Cancer) and water is linked > to naval fleet. For conquer UK, Napoleon must however, in order to mount > his invasion, to achieve naval superiority — or at least to pull the > British fleet away from the English Channel. > > > > >> Observe Venus (UK) in exaltation in Piscis, a water sign. Furthermore > Jupiter in Virgo is in aspect to Venus. Naval superiority of UK was > obvious. > > > > >> The lord of dasa for Moon in ashwini is Ketu (with Saturn in Leo). > Remember: dasa of Ketu = 7 years; dasa of Venus = 20 years. From May > 1803 to Nov 1815, there is aproximately 12 years 6 months. That is > Napoleon was defeated in Venus's dasa (Venus = UK). > > > > Third Chart: > > > > Napoléon Bonaparte, dont le pouvoir en France s'accroissait, était > désireux de restaurer la domination des colons français afin de > faire refleurir l'économie sucrière. Une armée de 25 000 hommes > sous la direction de son beau-frère, le général Leclerc, fut > envoyée à Saint-Domingue en décembre 1801 pour faire tenir la > promesse de Toussaint de rétablir les colons et, officieusement, > rétablir l'esclavage. > > > > Toussaint n'était pas dupe. Il mena une guerre de repli, brûlant > les villes devant l'arrivée des troupes françaises fin janvier > 1802. Leclerc vainquit les troupes de Dessalines, puis celles de > Christophe. Ayant ramené avec lui les enfants de Toussaint, il les > lui envoya, en signe d'apaisement. Le 2 mai 1802, Toussaint offrit sa > reddition contre sa liberté et l'intégration de ses troupes dans > l'armée française. > > > > Leclerc ne s'en tint pas là. Capturé par ruse le 7 juin 1802, > Toussaint fut envoyé en France avec sa famille. A son embarquement, > il prédit : > > > > "En me renversant, on n'a abattu que le tronc de l'arbre de la > liberté des nègres. Celui-ci repoussera par les racines, parce > qu'elles sont profondes et nombreuses." > > > > Il fut enfermé au Fort de Joux dans les montagnes du Jura, la plus > froide région de France. Il y mourut le 7 avril 1803. > > > > Les Français ne réussirent pas à rétablir l'esclavage à > Saint-Domingue. Grâce à la puissance militaire construite sous > Toussaint, les noirs triomphèrent sur eux à la bataille de > Vertières en 1803. Le 1er janvier 1804, leur nouveau chef, > Jean-Jacques Dessalines, proclama l'indépendance du pays qu'il > baptisa de son nom indien : Haïti. > > > > >> 7 June, 1803. Observe the Moon in Leo with malefic Ketu and Saturn, > but the presence of Jupiter obsctruct the death of Toussaint. In the > natal chart of Toussaint Saturn-Mars-Jupiter is in Leo. See it... (at > 12:00) > > > > Sun 8 Ta 49' 51.35" Krit > > Moon 26 Pi 30' 10.77" Reva > > Mars 9 Le 55' 16.37" Magh > > Mercury 15 Ta 19' 05.09" Rohi > > Jupiter 14 Le 33' 10.21" PPha > > Venus 8 Ge 54' 28.15" Ardr > > Saturn 8 Le 52' 08.64" Magh > > Rahu 28 Ar 01' 28.56" Krit > > Ketu 28 Li 01' 28.56" Visa > > > > >> Observe that in the capture chart the Moon is lord of 12 th in 1th, > involved the journey (by sea = Cancer is water sign) to France and the > consequent death in relation to adverse climatic conditions (cold). > > > > >> Consider the yogakaraka for Moon in Leo is Mars and Mars is in aspect > to Venus-Mercury in Geminis, and Geminis is 11th, friend, social group, > etc. It is linked to Jean-Jacques Dessalines, He served as an officer in > the French army and later rose to become a commander in the revolt > against the same colonial power. As Toussaint L'Ouverture's principal > lieutenant, he led many successful engagements. In his natal chart, > Dessalines have a Mars-Mercury conjunction in Libra (sign of the Venus). > See it... (at 12:00) > > > > Sun 7 Vi 05' 19.41" UPha > > Moon 23 Ar 36' 28.91" Bhar > > Mars 15 Li 39' 41.55" Swat > > Mercury 0 Li 46' 03.62" Chit > > Jupiter 22 Sc 19' 18.24" Jye > > Venus 9 Le 19' 25.04" Magh > > Saturn ® 8 Aq 14' 09.90" Sata > > Rahu 1 Cn 09' 44.07" Puna > > Ketu 1 Cp 09' 44.07" USha > > > > >>The prediction of Toussaint was rigth and have an important > astrological connection. Haiti declared its independence on January 1, > 1804. > > > > Sun 19 Sg 02' 45.43" PSha > > Moon 13 Le 22' 06.46" PPha > > Mars 12 Sg 26' 14.36" Mool > > Mercury 27 Sg 05' 22.98" USha > > Jupiter 11 Li 03' 02.82" Swat > > Venus 8 Cp 20' 00.97" USha > > Saturn 12 Vi 20' 03.11" Hast > > Rahu 24 Cp 46' 30.03" Dhan > > Ketu 24 Cn 46' 30.03" Asre > > > > - Observe that the Moon is in Leo, the same sign of the capture of > Toussaint, after 21 lunar cycles. > > > > - Saturn left Leo (August 26, 1803). Ketu is in Cancer and Rahu in > Capricorn ( October 17, 1803). The malefics "liberate" to the Moon in > Leo. Consider that the the Battle of Vertières, the last major battle > of the Second War of Haitian Independence, the final part of the Haitian > Revolution. It was fought between Haitian rebels and French > expeditionary forces on November 18, 1803. That is after the malefic > planets go out of Leo. > > > > - Consider the position of the Moon in sagittarius in November 18, 1803. > Sagittarius is the opposite sign to Geminis, where Venus-Mercury > conjunction (with aspect from Mars) is present in the capture of > Toussaint. It makes senses since the victory was obtain for Dessalines, > a comrade of Toussaint in the fight. > > > > Fourth Chart: > > > > In late 1802 he was named by government informers and disaffected > soldiers as a member of a conspiracy engaged in a plot to seize the > Tower of London and Bank of England and assassinate George III. The > evidence was thin but Despard was arrested and prosecuted by Attorney > General Spencer Perceval, before Lord Ellenborough, the Lord Chief > Justice. Despite a dramatic appearance by Lord Nelson as character > witness on his behalf, Despard was found guilty by the jury of high > treason, and sentenced, with six of his fellow-conspirators (John Wood > and John Francis, both privates in the army, carpenter Thomas Broughton, > shoemaker James Sedgwick Wratton, slater Arthur Graham, and John > Macnamara),[1] to be hanged, drawn and quartered. > > > > These were the last men to be so sentenced in England, although prior to > execution the sentence was commuted to simple hanging and beheading, > amid fears that the draconian punishment might spark public dissent. > Despard was executed on the roof of the gatehouse at Horsemonger Lane > Gaol, in front of a crowd of at least 20,000 spectators, on 21 February > 1803. > > > > >> Is a especial cancellation of karmik reactions since Rahu-Ketu have a > important presence in the event. Observe that Sun-Moon in New Moon > tendency. > > > > >> Dasa of Mars and after, dasa of Rahu. Indicate a next reencarnation > very infortunate... perhaps some period in the Patalas?. > > > > >> Take notice of the resemblance with the astrological chart (of death) > of Augusto Pinochet (dictator of Chile). See the chart with the time and > location right. > > > > Sun 24 Sc 33' 18.08" Jye > > Moon 3 Le 53' 13.35" Magh > > Mars 9 Sc 14' 38.40" Anu > > Mercury 9 Sc 43' 40.61" Anu > > Jupiter 9 Sc 42' 35.98" Anu > > Venus 5 Sg 24' 50.49" Mool > > Saturn ® 1 Le 05' 47.25" Magh > > Rahu 26 Aq 50' 28.04" PBha > > Ketu 26 Le 50' 28.04" UPha > > > > Augusto José Ramón Pinochet Ugarte was a general and President of > Chile. Pinochet led a military junta to power in 1973, through a coup > d'état, deposing the democratically-elected Socialist President > Salvador Allende and establishing a military government. In 1974, > Pinochet appointed himself President and remained in power until 1990. > His coup d'etat generate the death of the socialist president Allende. > > > > For me, this deaths are specially karmik deaths. > > > > > > Note: This is only a part of the more extensive histo-astrological > investigation. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2007 Report Share Posted January 19, 2007 Namaste Raj Bhardwaj, thank you very much for your remarks. I keep the faith in this project and will be a honor for me, get great guide and help of Guru Sanjay Rath. I hope that Guru Sanjay Rath can check my sample of histo-astrological research and support me in this project. Now, I send more details about perspective of Histo-astrological research. --------------------------- 1.- The Goal: Create a CD-ROM or DVD-ROM with voluminouse relevant informacion about History. 2.- This CD or DVD-ROM have a World Map... somebody will click in any Conuntry and automatically it display a Timeline: century, decade, years and days/month with the important events of this country. 3.- Somebody will click in some important date, the software display: a) Historical explanations b) Astrological chart of Date c) Astrologic commentary d)Links with other similar planetary configurations in other times/countries. 4.- This CD or DVD-ROM have in the Menu, a option of Databases... for example: All Battles, Battles of s. XV, XVI, XVII,.. s.XXI. All Naval Combat, All Air Invasions, All Sea Invasions, All Terrestryal Invasions, etc... Also we include othe options with All Prime Minister of India, All Prime Ministe of England, etc.. (with historical and astrological information, and links among them). 5.- I think that we can begin with Indian History and after go on with England History, after go on with other European countries (France, Germany, etc) and after USA. 6.- This is a project of many years... (all my dasa of Mercury) but we may work first in Indian History and create of CD-ROM about it and offer to the astrologic market. I think that you are the qualified person for management of incoms of this product. 7.- For each next year we can present a new version of the CD or DVD-ROM with more countries in it. This is a good style for a good support of our researchs. 8.- You can see, that this project need al least a one person in complet dedication and research. And after, depend of the success of the product, we can include other astrologer in our project. 9.- This project require a coordinate work and interchange of opinions, reviews, etc. for the best outcome... for this reason I must live in India. How you see, this is a MEGA-PROJECT and may be you can search for sponsors in India. Remember, I can live like monk. Om Namo Bhagavate Vasudevaya. I wait your commentaries. Thanks for your time --------------------- Vladimir Mendoza B. , "Raj Bhardwaj" <rajbhardwaj1949 wrote: > > Dear Vladimir Mendoza Balcazar, > Hola & bien dias, > I have gone through your aricle. You have very good insight in > studying and analysing the astrological effects on important periods > and persons in history. This is indeed very commendable and very > rarely touched by normal astrologers. As far as I know Guru Sanjay > Rath in India can be a great guide and help for you in this field > of applied astrology. Gracious. > > Raj Bhardwaj > Sh Aditya Jyotish Kendra > Panchkula > > , "Vladimir Mendoza Balcazar" > vladi98mb@ wrote: > > > > > > Namaste Jyotishers, My name isVladimir Mendoza, I live in > > Lima-Peru-Southamerica. I am very interested in astrological > researchs > > about History. I need support for this project. I need travel to > India > > for dedicate the rest of my life in histo-astrological researchs, > under > > your guidance. I give my DOB for your analisis and evaluation, 23 > > april1979, 3:10 am Tumbes, Peru. > > > > I am send you a sample of my work in histo-astrological researchs. > > > > Thanks for your time. > > > > > > > > > > > > SATURNO AND KETU > > > > IN LEO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Write for: > > > > Vladimir Mendoza B. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > February 3, 1802 - August 25, 1803 > > > > > > > > Some events important in this period were: > > > > > > > > 1) The Treaty of Amiens (was signed on March 25, 1802) > > > > > > > > The planetary positions at 12:00 were: > > > > > > > > Sun 13 Pi 00' 03.92" UBha > > > > Moon 23 Sc 46' 15.40" Jye > > > > Mars 0 Aq 16' 31.85" Dhan > > > > Mercury ® 22 Aq 30' 04.55" PBha > > > > Jupiter ® 5 Le 49' 29.97" Magh > > > > Venus 14 Pi 54' 00.67" UBha > > > > Saturn ® 10 Le 47' 59.51" > > > > Rahu 29 Aq 04' 26.33" PBha > > > > Ketu 29 Le 04' 26.33" UPha > > > > > > > > 2) War between Great Britain and France recommenced on May 18, 1803 > > > > > > > > The planetary positions at 12:00 were: > > > > > > > > Sun 5 Ta 20' 48.28" Krit > > > > Moon 29 Pi 54' 05.71" Reva > > > > Mars 12 Cn 28' 58.32" Push > > > > Mercury 21 Ta 41' 15.56" Rohi > > > > Júpiter ® 4 Vi 52' 30.98" UPha > > > > Venus 27 Pi 36' 34.58" Reva > > > > Saturn 22 Le 45' 27.79" PPha > > > > Rahu 6 Aq 52' 19.64" Sata > > > > Ketu 6 Le 52' 19.64" Magh > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) François-Dominique Toussaint L'Ouverture, also Toussaint Bréda, > > Toussaint-Louverture is captured in Junio 7, 1802. He was one of > the > > leaders of the Haïtian Revolution. Along with Jean-Jacques > > Dessalines, another leader of the Revolution, L'Ouverture is > considered > > as one of the fathers of the Haitian nation. The astrological > chart at > > 12:00 is: > > > > > > > > Sun 25 Ta 00' 11.32" Mrig > > > > Moon 15 Le 33' 37.57" PPha > > > > Mars 26 Pi 46' 54.69" Reva > > > > Mercury 15 Ge 09' 10.54" Ardr > > > > Jupiter 7 Le 38' 14.60" Magh > > > > Venus 16 Ge 12' 26.29" Ardr > > > > Saturn 10 Le 37' 37.26" Magh > > > > Rahu 25 Aq 08' 29.29" PBha > > > > Ketu 25 Le 08' 29.29" PPha > > > > 4) Edward Despard and six others are hanged (February 21, 1803), > drawn > > and quartered for plotting to assassinate king George III and to > destroy > > the Bank of England. See the chart at 12:00... > > > > > > > > Sun 10 Aq 51' 08.31" Sata > > > > Moon 5 Aq 23' 22.95" Dhan > > > > Mars 5 Ge 20' 41.20" Mrig > > > > Mercury ® 15 Aq 37' 56.01" Sata > > > > Jupiter ® 13 Vi 15' 42.06" Hast > > > > Venus 25 Sg 52' 11.32" PSha > > > > Saturn ® 27 Le 24' 32.90" UPha > > > > Rahu 11 Aq 25' 32.90" Sata > > > > Ketu 11 Le 25' 32.90" Magh > > > > > > > > > > > > Historical and Astrological Outlook > > > > > > > > First Chart: > > > > > > > > The Treaty of Amiens was signed on March 25, 1802 by Joseph > Bonaparte > > and the Marquess Cornwallis as a "Definitive Treaty of Peace" > between > > France and the United Kingdom. Under the treaty, the United Kingdom > > recognised the French Republic; the consequent peace, which lasted > only > > one year, was the only period during which the United Kingdom was > not at > > war with France during the so-called 'Great French War'. > > > > > > > > However, objections to the treaty quickly grew in the United > Kingdom, > > especially as it seemed that the UK was making all the > concessions. In > > addition, Bonaparte had interfered with the Batavian and Cisalpine > > Republics and sent troops into Switzerland, breaking earlier > treaties. > > Concerns were also raised by the sending of a major French Army to > the > > Caribbean island of Santo Domingo, where it reimposed slavery and > > cracked down on the independence movement. As a result the British > > Government balked at implementing certain terms, such as evacuating > > their military presence from Malta, due to this French refusal to > > respect other terms of the treaty. Despite appeals from French > Foreign > > Minster Talleyrand, Bonaparte refused to concede much, especially > as it > > was rumoured that he had designs on Egypt again. As a result > Addington > > strengthened the Royal Navy, and imposed a blockade of France. > > > > > > > > The astrologycal configuration for the Treaty of Amiens show a weak > > tendency in relation to keep the peace among France and UK. > > > > > > > > >> The axis Leo-Aquairus contain 3 negative elements: Mars-Rahu > versus > > Saturn-Ketu. Remember that Leo-Aquarius are linked to honor and > > revolutionary thought. the Treaty always seemed unlikely to > endure: it > > satisfied neither side, and both sides dishonoured parts of it. > > > > > > > > >> Here, Jupiter is the planet that permit to enter into a treaty. > > Mercury have a important communicative role. For Moon in Jyestha > the > > lord of dasa is Mercury. > > > > > > > > >> Observe the degrees, Mars 00°28' and Rahu 29°27', they are > > distant, it decrease the conflictive aspect among Rahu and Mars. > The > > axis Rahu-Ketu enter to Aquarius-Leo in february 3, 1802, around > fifty > > days. Mars enter to Aquarius the same day, March 25, at 3:40 AM. > > > > > > > > >> The Moon in Scorpio (weakening) is other factor that not support > > promote a long-lasting treaty. > > > > > > > > >> Observe that from the Moon, Aquarius is fourth house ( land, > > territory, etc) and Leo is tenth house (government and politics). > > > > > > > > >> From the Moon, Mars seem represent France, then Venus represent > UK. > > Why? Observe that Mars come of a strong location in Capricorn > > (exaltation), as well as the victory of Napoleon against the Second > > Coalition: Holy Roman/Austrian Empire (at war with France since > 1792) > > French Royalists, Kingdom of Great Britain (at war with France > since > > 1793), Kingdom of Naples and Sicily (had been war with France > 1793-96), > > Russian Empire and Ottoman Empire. > > > > > > > > >> From the Moon, Venus is in connection with the Sun, planet > linked to > > lion and the lion is a symbol of UK. > > > > > > > > Being this the case, the peace have precarius condition. > > > > > > > > Second Chart: > > > > > > > > >> Observe that Jupiter left Leo and enter to Virgo in October 2, > 1802. > > There is not diplomacy for support peace. > > > > > > > > >> Mars in Cancer, weak, in twelfth house from Saturno-Ketu. Mars > move > > on to a confrotation with Saturn. Is a resistent confrotation > since Mars > > in Leo is strong, but Ketu-Saturn are complicated of defeat. > > > > > > > > >> I am put the Moon in Aries (enter after 11:09 AM, Paris) since > it was > > a continuous period of warfare until November 20, 1815. Whereas > Moon in > > Piscis not involve the same tendency. > > > > > > > > >> From Moon in Aries, Mars is again Napoleon and Venus is again > UK. > > Observe that from first day of the conflict with UK, Napoleon have > a > > problem with WATER element (Mars weakened in Cancer) and water is > linked > > to naval fleet. For conquer UK, Napoleon must however, in order to > mount > > his invasion, to achieve naval superiority — or at least to pull > the > > British fleet away from the English Channel. > > > > > > > > >> Observe Venus (UK) in exaltation in Piscis, a water sign. > Furthermore > > Jupiter in Virgo is in aspect to Venus. Naval superiority of UK was > > obvious. > > > > > > > > >> The lord of dasa for Moon in ashwini is Ketu (with Saturn in > Leo). > > Remember: dasa of Ketu = 7 years; dasa of Venus = 20 years. From > May > > 1803 to Nov 1815, there is aproximately 12 years 6 months. That is > > Napoleon was defeated in Venus's dasa (Venus = UK). > > > > > > > > Third Chart: > > > > > > > > Napoléon Bonaparte, dont le pouvoir en France s'accroissait, était > > désireux de restaurer la domination des colons français afin de > > faire refleurir l'économie sucrière. Une armée de 25 000 hommes > > sous la direction de son beau-frère, le général Leclerc, fut > > envoyée à Saint-Domingue en décembre 1801 pour faire tenir la > > promesse de Toussaint de rétablir les colons et, officieusement, > > rétablir l'esclavage. > > > > > > > > Toussaint n'était pas dupe. Il mena une guerre de repli, brûlant > > les villes devant l'arrivée des troupes françaises fin janvier > > 1802. Leclerc vainquit les troupes de Dessalines, puis celles de > > Christophe. Ayant ramené avec lui les enfants de Toussaint, il les > > lui envoya, en signe d'apaisement. Le 2 mai 1802, Toussaint offrit > sa > > reddition contre sa liberté et l'intégration de ses troupes dans > > l'armée française. > > > > > > > > Leclerc ne s'en tint pas là. Capturé par ruse le 7 juin 1802, > > Toussaint fut envoyé en France avec sa famille. A son embarquement, > > il prédit : > > > > > > > > "En me renversant, on n'a abattu que le tronc de l'arbre de la > > liberté des nègres. Celui-ci repoussera par les racines, parce > > qu'elles sont profondes et nombreuses." > > > > > > > > Il fut enfermé au Fort de Joux dans les montagnes du Jura, la plus > > froide région de France. Il y mourut le 7 avril 1803. > > > > > > > > Les Français ne réussirent pas à rétablir l'esclavage à > > Saint-Domingue. Grâce à la puissance militaire construite sous > > Toussaint, les noirs triomphèrent sur eux à la bataille de > > Vertières en 1803. Le 1er janvier 1804, leur nouveau chef, > > Jean-Jacques Dessalines, proclama l'indépendance du pays qu'il > > baptisa de son nom indien : Haïti. > > > > > > > > >> 7 June, 1803. Observe the Moon in Leo with malefic Ketu and > Saturn, > > but the presence of Jupiter obsctruct the death of Toussaint. In > the > > natal chart of Toussaint Saturn-Mars-Jupiter is in Leo. See it... > (at > > 12:00) > > > > > > > > Sun 8 Ta 49' 51.35" Krit > > > > Moon 26 Pi 30' 10.77" Reva > > > > Mars 9 Le 55' 16.37" Magh > > > > Mercury 15 Ta 19' 05.09" Rohi > > > > Jupiter 14 Le 33' 10.21" PPha > > > > Venus 8 Ge 54' 28.15" Ardr > > > > Saturn 8 Le 52' 08.64" Magh > > > > Rahu 28 Ar 01' 28.56" Krit > > > > Ketu 28 Li 01' 28.56" Visa > > > > > > > > >> Observe that in the capture chart the Moon is lord of 12 th in > 1th, > > involved the journey (by sea = Cancer is water sign) to France and > the > > consequent death in relation to adverse climatic conditions (cold). > > > > > > > > >> Consider the yogakaraka for Moon in Leo is Mars and Mars is in > aspect > > to Venus-Mercury in Geminis, and Geminis is 11th, friend, social > group, > > etc. It is linked to Jean-Jacques Dessalines, He served as an > officer in > > the French army and later rose to become a commander in the revolt > > against the same colonial power. As Toussaint L'Ouverture's > principal > > lieutenant, he led many successful engagements. In his natal chart, > > Dessalines have a Mars-Mercury conjunction in Libra (sign of the > Venus). > > See it... (at 12:00) > > > > > > > > Sun 7 Vi 05' 19.41" UPha > > > > Moon 23 Ar 36' 28.91" Bhar > > > > Mars 15 Li 39' 41.55" Swat > > > > Mercury 0 Li 46' 03.62" Chit > > > > Jupiter 22 Sc 19' 18.24" Jye > > > > Venus 9 Le 19' 25.04" Magh > > > > Saturn ® 8 Aq 14' 09.90" Sata > > > > Rahu 1 Cn 09' 44.07" Puna > > > > Ketu 1 Cp 09' 44.07" USha > > > > > > > > >>The prediction of Toussaint was rigth and have an important > > astrological connection. Haiti declared its independence on > January 1, > > 1804. > > > > > > > > Sun 19 Sg 02' 45.43" PSha > > > > Moon 13 Le 22' 06.46" PPha > > > > Mars 12 Sg 26' 14.36" Mool > > > > Mercury 27 Sg 05' 22.98" USha > > > > Jupiter 11 Li 03' 02.82" Swat > > > > Venus 8 Cp 20' 00.97" USha > > > > Saturn 12 Vi 20' 03.11" Hast > > > > Rahu 24 Cp 46' 30.03" Dhan > > > > Ketu 24 Cn 46' 30.03" Asre > > > > > > > > - Observe that the Moon is in Leo, the same sign of the capture of > > Toussaint, after 21 lunar cycles. > > > > > > > > - Saturn left Leo (August 26, 1803). Ketu is in Cancer and Rahu in > > Capricorn ( October 17, 1803). The malefics "liberate" to the > Moon in > > Leo. Consider that the the Battle of Vertières, the last major > battle > > of the Second War of Haitian Independence, the final part of the > Haitian > > Revolution. It was fought between Haitian rebels and French > > expeditionary forces on November 18, 1803. That is after the > malefic > > planets go out of Leo. > > > > > > > > - Consider the position of the Moon in sagittarius in November 18, > 1803. > > Sagittarius is the opposite sign to Geminis, where Venus-Mercury > > conjunction (with aspect from Mars) is present in the capture of > > Toussaint. It makes senses since the victory was obtain for > Dessalines, > > a comrade of Toussaint in the fight. > > > > > > > > Fourth Chart: > > > > > > > > In late 1802 he was named by government informers and disaffected > > soldiers as a member of a conspiracy engaged in a plot to seize the > > Tower of London and Bank of England and assassinate George III. The > > evidence was thin but Despard was arrested and prosecuted by > Attorney > > General Spencer Perceval, before Lord Ellenborough, the Lord Chief > > Justice. Despite a dramatic appearance by Lord Nelson as character > > witness on his behalf, Despard was found guilty by the jury of high > > treason, and sentenced, with six of his fellow-conspirators (John > Wood > > and John Francis, both privates in the army, carpenter Thomas > Broughton, > > shoemaker James Sedgwick Wratton, slater Arthur Graham, and John > > Macnamara),[1] to be hanged, drawn and quartered. > > > > > > > > These were the last men to be so sentenced in England, although > prior to > > execution the sentence was commuted to simple hanging and > beheading, > > amid fears that the draconian punishment might spark public > dissent. > > Despard was executed on the roof of the gatehouse at Horsemonger > Lane > > Gaol, in front of a crowd of at least 20,000 spectators, on 21 > February > > 1803. > > > > > > > > >> Is a especial cancellation of karmik reactions since Rahu-Ketu > have a > > important presence in the event. Observe that Sun-Moon in New Moon > > tendency. > > > > > > > > >> Dasa of Mars and after, dasa of Rahu. Indicate a next > reencarnation > > very infortunate... perhaps some period in the Patalas?. > > > > > > > > >> Take notice of the resemblance with the astrological chart (of > death) > > of Augusto Pinochet (dictator of Chile). See the chart with the > time and > > location right. > > > > > > > > Sun 24 Sc 33' 18.08" Jye > > > > Moon 3 Le 53' 13.35" Magh > > > > Mars 9 Sc 14' 38.40" Anu > > > > Mercury 9 Sc 43' 40.61" Anu > > > > Jupiter 9 Sc 42' 35.98" Anu > > > > Venus 5 Sg 24' 50.49" Mool > > > > Saturn ® 1 Le 05' 47.25" Magh > > > > Rahu 26 Aq 50' 28.04" PBha > > > > Ketu 26 Le 50' 28.04" UPha > > > > > > > > Augusto José Ramón Pinochet Ugarte was a general and President of > > Chile. Pinochet led a military junta to power in 1973, through a > coup > > d'état, deposing the democratically-elected Socialist President > > Salvador Allende and establishing a military government. In 1974, > > Pinochet appointed himself President and remained in power until > 1990. > > His coup d'etat generate the death of the socialist president > Allende. > > > > > > > > For me, this deaths are specially karmik deaths. > > > > > > > > > > > > Note: This is only a part of the more extensive histo-astrological > > investigation. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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