Guest guest Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Dear Sir, What is the effect of Saturn and rahu as atmakaraka in two different chart. Does saturn as atmakaraka indicates that the native has to bear lot of sorrow in life? If the native practice Discipline and try to lead a honesh life with full dedication to god will that be a remady for Saturn as atmakaraka? What will be the effect "Rahu" as atmakaraka? I hope to get some reply from this larned forum. Wish everybody and joyful 2007. Best Regards, Ananta Saha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 OHM NAMO NAARAAYENAAYE Dear member, What follows here is not my observances. I am just an intermediair in sharing what is known. What is written about AK in general: Saturn: Accepts a lot of suffering and is resistant to it, he is not dependent on the amount of happiness/distress he achieves. He should learn how to avoid giving sorrow to others, empathize and share their sorrows and help them.Examples: Cardinal Richelieu, Aliester Crowley. Rahu: The native may be deeply spiritual or saintly, but sometimes completely unorthodox, rejecting the traditions of his culture for a higher purpose.. He may be cheated often and still have to be free from guile and clean hearted.Examples: Sigmund Freud, Mother Teresa. Atmakaraka Would the effects of a Yogakaraka be diminished if it is also an Atmakaraka? It means that actions of Yogakaraka would be very personal and connected to Your Atma. You can’t have proper judgment and be biased about things connected to AK. AK doesn’t show affliction, but show your main attachments. In Dasa this attachment will be tested therefore we call this time "period of lesson" and one usually come through Suddhi-purification in that time.. How would an Atmakaraka behave if it is creating a Mahapurusha yoga? Mystery of Jyotish comes when you connect the principles. Mahapurusha is all about Tatwa and Ayana. And its yoga working from birth time (if luminaries have strong Bala). Principle of AK I gave before - connect this two and meditate about effect. If AK is exalted, will its Dasa be free of troubles? I’ve read one mail from Sanjay, that very good AK will not give much suffering, but be careful - if it is in Dusthana it can be very destructive if its malefic. Of course exalted Grahas have the highest awareness so even for benefic the Dusthana position can be problematic. If you see the lord of Bhava with relation to Karaka - then you can see how much opportunity you have to associate with specific matter. For example 7th Lord with Venus gives many opportunity and events related to relationships. Attitude: Yes this is general approach. Technically you should be able to see the Lagnesh in specific Varga - this will also tell you about attitude. Job From: anant_sahain Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 00:34:20 -0800[Om Krishna Guru] Atmakaraka Dear Sir,What is the effect of Saturn and rahu as atmakaraka intwo different chart.Does saturn as atmakaraka indicates that the nativehas to bear lot of sorrow in life? If the nativepractice Discipline and try to lead a honesh life withfull dedication to god will that be a remady forSaturn as atmakaraka? What will be the effect "Rahu" as atmakaraka?I hope to get some reply from this larned forum.Wish everybody and joyful 2007.Best Regards,Ananta Saha _______________ Probeer Live.com: je eigen snelle startpagina met alles wat jij belangrijk vindt op één plek. http://www.live.com/getstarted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 Dear Ananta, *all depends on yogas in which atmakaraka is involved and remedy also depends on the same. sani ak means person who must drink the suffering of others or feel responsible for tradition, overworked and meets many disapointments, his lesson is to not give the suffering back but thats very general and all details require seeing full chart. rahu atmakaraka shows person usually shocked/cheated in life, very naive but also often spiritual (if other yoga's exists). malefic ak shows usually more mature/spiritual person especially when sun/jupiter has argala / in kendra/kona. atmakaraka in navamsa shows reason/root for birth and souls 'desire'. Regards Rafal Gendarz - Ananta Saha Monday, January 01, 2007 9:34 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Atmakaraka Dear Sir, What is the effect of Saturn and rahu as atmakaraka in two different chart. Does saturn as atmakaraka indicates that the native has to bear lot of sorrow in life? If the native practice Discipline and try to lead a honesh life with full dedication to god will that be a remady for Saturn as atmakaraka? What will be the effect "Rahu" as atmakaraka? I hope to get some reply from this larned forum. Wish everybody and joyful 2007. Best Regards, Ananta Saha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2007 Report Share Posted January 1, 2007 vyam vyasadevaya namah Dear Job, Namaskar Nice to see Your work on Jyotish. Regards Rafal Gendarz - job rodenburg Monday, January 01, 2007 12:55 PM RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Atmakaraka OHM NAMO NAARAAYENAAYE Dear member, What follows here is not my observances. I am just an intermediair in sharing what is known. What is written about AK in general: Saturn: Accepts a lot of suffering and is resistant to it, he is not dependent on the amount of happiness/distress he achieves. He should learn how to avoid giving sorrow to others, empathize and share their sorrows and help them. Examples: Cardinal Richelieu, Aliester Crowley. Rahu: The native may be deeply spiritual or saintly, but sometimes completely unorthodox, rejecting the traditions of his culture for a higher purpose. He may be cheated often and still have to be free from guile and clean hearted. Examples: Sigmund Freud, Mother Teresa. Atmakaraka Would the effects of a Yogakaraka be diminished if it is also an Atmakaraka? It means that actions of Yogakaraka would be very personal and connected to Your Atma. You can’t have proper judgment and be biased about things connected to AK. AK doesn’t show affliction, but show your main attachments. In Dasa this attachment will be tested therefore we call this time "period of lesson" and one usually come through Suddhi-purification in that time. How would an Atmakaraka behave if it is creating a Mahapurusha yoga? Mystery of Jyotish comes when you connect the principles. Mahapurusha is all about Tatwa and Ayana. And its yoga working from birth time (if luminaries have strong Bala). Principle of AK I gave before - connect this two and meditate about effect. If AK is exalted, will its Dasa be free of troubles? I’ve read one mail from Sanjay, that very good AK will not give much suffering, but be careful - if it is in Dusthana it can be very destructive if its malefic. Of course exalted Grahas have the highest awareness so even for benefic the Dusthana position can be problematic. If you see the lord of Bhava with relation to Karaka - then you can see how much opportunity you have to associate with specific matter. For example 7th Lord with Venus gives many opportunity and events related to relationships. Attitude: Yes this is general approach. Technically you should be able to see the Lagnesh in specific Varga - this will also tell you about attitude. Job ---------- anant_sahain Mon, 1 Jan 2007 00:34:20 -0800 [Om Krishna Guru] Atmakaraka Dear Sir, What is the effect of Saturn and rahu as atmakaraka in two different chart. Does saturn as atmakaraka indicates that the native has to bear lot of sorrow in life? If the native practice Discipline and try to lead a honesh life with full dedication to god will that be a remady for Saturn as atmakaraka? What will be the effect "Rahu" as atmakaraka? I hope to get some reply from this larned forum. Wish everybody and joyful 2007. Best Regards, Ananta Saha Met MSN Spaces kun je per e-mail je weblog bijwerken. Leuke verhalen, foto's en meer kun je nu meteen uploaden. Het is gratis! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 ॥ॠनमो नारायणाय॥ Dear Rafal ji, Namaskar. When rahu is the AK and is involved in the following: 1. in UL in rasi(4th house) 2.in the 9th in capricorn in Navamnsha 3. Is involved in the curse of spouse in the 8th where Mars and Venus are posited in Capricorn. what are the significations, especially when running the AD of the AK in the MD of venus who is involved in the curse. I also understand that there are many more factors/yogas involved. I am running the AD of AK and living in New Zealand. There are no snakes here but my husband brought home a snake made of wood,which is life like. I have wondered at the significance. But I always have believed that Rahu to be a graha of spiritual nature rather than malefic in my case, does it signify Bandhana or many more experiences related to soul, suffering, relationships? I have been trying to learn Jyotish for some time but have not made much of a headway still. I was advised to do 3 malas of ॥ॠनमो नारायणाय॥ by Vistiji for the kalatra shrapa. I have been able to do it regularly only now. I find myself more into the worship of Guru Raghavendra, Narasimha, Hanuman(Hadumadhvadavanala Stotram) and Mother Mahalakshmi. It would help me if you could clarify the above for my personal learning, Wish you a Very Happy prosperous 2007 Regards Nalini Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Tuesday, 2 January, 2007 1:36:27 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Atmakaraka Dear Ananta, *all depends on yogas in which atmakaraka is involved and remedy also depends on the same. sani ak means person who must drink the suffering of others or feel responsible for tradition, overworked and meets many disapointments, his lesson is to not give the suffering back but thats very general and all details require seeing full chart. rahu atmakaraka shows person usually shocked/cheated in life, very naive but also often spiritual (if other yoga's exists). malefic ak shows usually more mature/spiritual person especially when sun/jupiter has argala / in kendra/kona. atmakaraka in navamsa shows reason/root for birth and souls 'desire'. Regards Rafal Gendarz - Ananta Saha Monday, January 01, 2007 9:34 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Atmakaraka Dear Sir, What is the effect of Saturn and rahu as atmakaraka in two different chart. Does saturn as atmakaraka indicates that the native has to bear lot of sorrow in life? If the native practice Discipline and try to lead a honesh life with full dedication to god will that be a remady for Saturn as atmakaraka? What will be the effect "Rahu" as atmakaraka? I hope to get some reply from this larned forum. Wish everybody and joyful 2007. Best Regards, Ananta Saha ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ http://mail. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 hraum namah adityaya Dear Nalini, Namaskar comments below. Regards Rafal Gendarz - nalini swamy Tuesday, January 02, 2007 6:51 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Atmakaraka ॥ॠनमो नारायणाय॥ Dear Rafal ji, Namaskar. When rahu is the AK and is involved in the following: 1. in UL in rasi(4th house) [rafal] malefic in forth is kapata yoga so you can be cheated in feel it intensely (ak), it can be related to marriage/giving (ul). Satva in Lagna in that case makes one very spiritual - see Sanjay Rath 2.in the 9th in capricorn in Navamnsha [rafal] you will be attracted to mantra,kids,sisyas,advising,managment - hope You know why. Its good position. Lesson : see charakarakas which are in dusthana in d9 - they suffer. 3. Is involved in the curse of spouse in the 8th where Mars and Venus are posited in Capricorn. [rafal] ak in curse is bad..capricorn can give evil(even ghosts). venus - so marriage is afflicted, mangal so you will feel sensitive and angry. eight bhava is bad and curse is more intense. what are the significations, especially when running the AD of the AK in the MD of venus who is involved in the curse. [rafal] AD of AK makes on spiritual and material life suffers due to that.. I also understand that there are many more factors/yogas involved. I am running the AD of AK and living in New Zealand. There are no snakes here but my husband brought home a snake made of wood,which is life like. I have wondered at the significance. But I always have believed that Rahu to be a graha of spiritual nature rather than malefic in my case, does it signify Bandhana or many more experiences related to soul, suffering, relationships? [rafal] both. malefic as ak will make you spiritual for sure, and being in eight makes on oriented to occult (see bhaktisiddhanta maharaja). I have been trying to learn Jyotish for some time but have not made much of a headway still. [rafal] I think You can be good. I have Guru-Mangal in scorpion in 10 in my Prasna! I was advised to do 3 malas of ॥ॠनमो नारायणाय॥ by Vistiji for the kalatra shrapa. [rafal] Yes, Guruji is very good astrologer. Capricorn is ruled by Sani therefore Narayana. Maharishi teaches : "Budhasani-bhyam Vishnu". I have been able to do it regularly only now. [rafal] You must do it always as relief from curse is most important thing from perspective of living comfort life. I find myself more into the worship of Guru Raghavendra, Narasimha, Hanuman(Hadumadhvadavanala Stotram) and Mother Mahalakshmi. It would help me if you could clarify the above for my personal learning, Wish you a Very Happy prosperous 2007 [rafal] Thank You for Your wishes. I wish You to be good Jyotisha and Sadhak of Narayan. Regards Nalini Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Tuesday, 2 January, 2007 1:36:27 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Atmakaraka Dear Ananta, *all depends on yogas in which atmakaraka is involved and remedy also depends on the same. sani ak means person who must drink the suffering of others or feel responsible for tradition, overworked and meets many disapointments, his lesson is to not give the suffering back but thats very general and all details require seeing full chart. rahu atmakaraka shows person usually shocked/cheated in life, very naive but also often spiritual (if other yoga's exists). malefic ak shows usually more mature/spiritual person especially when sun/jupiter has argala / in kendra/kona. atmakaraka in navamsa shows reason/root for birth and souls 'desire'. Regards Rafal Gendarz - Ananta Saha Monday, January 01, 2007 9:34 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Atmakaraka Dear Sir, What is the effect of Saturn and rahu as atmakaraka in two different chart. Does saturn as atmakaraka indicates that the native has to bear lot of sorrow in life? If the native practice Discipline and try to lead a honesh life with full dedication to god will that be a remady for Saturn as atmakaraka? What will be the effect "Rahu" as atmakaraka? I hope to get some reply from this larned forum. Wish everybody and joyful 2007. Best Regards, Ananta Saha ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ http://mail. Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Dear Sir, My regards to everybody who replied against my post. Best wishes, Ananta Saha --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: > Dear Ananta, > *all depends on yogas in which atmakaraka is > involved and remedy also depends on the same. > sani ak means person who must drink the suffering of > others or feel responsible for tradition, overworked > and meets many disapointments, his lesson is to not > give the suffering back but thats very general and > all details require seeing full chart. > > rahu atmakaraka shows person usually shocked/cheated > in life, very naive but also often spiritual (if > other yoga's exists). > > malefic ak shows usually more mature/spiritual > person especially when sun/jupiter has argala / in > kendra/kona. > > atmakaraka in navamsa shows reason/root for birth > and souls 'desire'. > > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > > - > Ananta Saha > > Monday, January 01, 2007 9:34 AM > [Om Krishna Guru] Atmakaraka > > > Dear Sir, > > What is the effect of Saturn and rahu as > atmakaraka in > two different chart. > > Does saturn as atmakaraka indicates that the > native > has to bear lot of sorrow in life? If the native > practice Discipline and try to lead a honesh life > with > full dedication to god will that be a remady for > Saturn as atmakaraka? > > What will be the effect "Rahu" as atmakaraka? > > I hope to get some reply from this larned forum. > > Wish everybody and joyful 2007. > > Best Regards, > Ananta Saha > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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