Request for Mr.R.S ( regarding serious study requested)

December 20, 2006

Dear Shri.Sharmaji,

I am in a hope to get more information from you. I want to study about more on 3rd house.

The points given in "Saravali" will suit my case or not?

In my case , with my experience I feel it is correct to some extend.

None of my yonger brothers or sisters are settled well . ( including my Twin). Should I treat him Elder or Yonger. He was born 3min later than me.

Best regards

S.Govindh Raajan

astro learner <vedic_learner > wrote:

To Mr.Seetharama

Thank you for coming up with your views.

For your information , my TOB is 11.52 .........My brother will be 11.55.

To Mr.Sharma

I wish to suggest in this way. Let the focus and the study to be on the third house - now. for Ninth house and other things.......I will give my inputs later.

At the very basic and learning ground ........(When I first started learning about houses and its significants, ) I immediately worried about my sibling..........and my relationship with them............. Because of Saturn ( Retro ) in third house. As it may common to everyone , I first look for the Malefics and its effects whenever I happen to look at any horos..

Pls refer the following point and give your feedback.

>From Kalyana Verma’s Saravali

21-24. PRINCIPLES RELATED TO THE 3rd HOUSE. When the 3rd House is owned by a malefic and is occupied by a malefic, the co-born are destroyed. Conversely, a benefic's Sign being the 3rd and occupation of benefics therein will cause happiness thereof. Now explained below is the method to ascertain the number of co-born. The number of Navāńśas past in the 3rd House denotes the number of brothers following the native. If other planets aspect the 3rd House, the said number (caused by Navāńśas) stands increased. Saturn placed in the 3rd in aspect to Mars causes destruction of co-born. But Venus in the 3rd and in aspect to Jupiter increases happiness thereof. Mercury placed in the 3rd House, in aspect to Mars (or in aspect to the Sun, as some texts read ‘Bhaskara Drishtah' instead of ‘Angaraka Drishtah'), the native's friends are destroyed. Rest (relating to the 4th House) may be understood from Bhavadhyaya (Ch. 30).

unfortunately , in my case, 3rd house is with Saturn (strong) and receiving aspects of Mars............

keeping this point of view....pls give your comments.

best regards

S.Govindh Raajan

R S <globalastrologers (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

Mr Krishnamurthy Seetharama

I fully agree with your view. In fact, I too consider such things. But as such I was not sure whether others would also understand this or otherwise, I never disclosed it. Now that you have very methodically submitted your views, I really feel delighted to have similarities in our understanding.

I have been doing astrology for the past 16 years and have gone through many techniques illustrated by various authors. But, I find none of them satisfactory up to my requirement. Therefore, I started reviving the old texts again and again. I have studied Phaladeepika of Shri Mantreshwara for around 70-80 times, and, believe me everytime I completed it, I have been blessed with one more basic formula of astrology. Then, I also discovered that most of the techniques/approaches which are now presented as Personal discoveries are actually found mention in that very Grantha i.e. Phaldeepika. At present, I am using my own techniqe namely Global Technique of analysing a chart which has been derived by me and my wife around 2001. And as such, I found it working around 95%, I have been still sticking to it and looking for more accuracy and improvements.

Best wishes

RS

Global Astrologers

-

Krishnamurthy Seetharama

vedic astrology ; vedic_learner

Wednesday, December 13, 2006 5:23 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Seeking Advice! ( Serious studies requested )

Dear SGR,

I was curiously following this thread and wanted to contribute.

Hope yourself and RS will bear with me for barging in.

You said your twin brother is only three minutes younger than

you (I asuume the birth time is 11:55am)and there is no

difference between your chart and his chart and yet there is a

lot of difference between you two.

Actually, you two have different navamsa lagnas. Yours is Kanya

navamsa and your brother has Thula navamsa. This can make a

world of difference. For example, you two will have different

skill sets and this would lead to different kind of capabilities

and eventually differnt type of professions and lifestyles. I

guess you are more organized and methodical than your brother.

And, in your brother's case the moon is in the 8th from navamsa

lagna. This is not good for longevity. In your case navamsa

venus is in a dusthana and in your brother's case it is in a

trine. This gives artistic inclination to your brother whereas

it helps in terms of finances for you.

In any case, looking at the strengths and weaknesses in both

Rasi and Navamsa are important to properly judge a chart. At the

same time, as the Rasi chart is same for both of you, there will

be many similarities in your lives as well.

Coming back to the problem that you have raised, Venus-Mars

combination need not necessarily indicate a love affair

specially in your case as they are about 17 degrees apart. And,

they occupy different houses in the Bhava chart.

One learned member in aother forum claimed to have observed that

the lot of people born approximately bewtween 1972-1974 seem to

have problems related to their marriage (note that not all have

problmes). According to him this is only an observation and the

reasons are yet to be found. My guess is that, the indicated

three year period is characterised by the fact that Saturn is in

the house owned by Venus (Taurus). Hence, we may have to study

the relative strengths and weakness of Saturn and Venus in the

chart to look at marriage related issue.

I will try to study more and continue tis post later.

Regards,

Krishna

--- astro learner <vedic_learner > wrote:

>

> Dear Mr.Sharma,

>

> Thank you for valuable inputs. I will come back with lot of

> facts about me with the periods ( if possible accurately) .

>

> For your information, I am a Twin. ( I born 3 minutes

> earlier to my brother ) My twin brother

> life is quite opposite to mine.

>

> I could never find any answer about his life style and

> NOBODY can come forward to tell about his . Because, My horo

> and his horo is the same. Three minutes gap does not seem to

> make any impact.........

>

> AT THIS JUNCTURE , " I WISH TO SAY AND ASSURE THAT I AM NOT

> USING THIS FORUM TO HAVE MY PERSONAL PROBLEM SOLVED"

>

> I wish to understand the life, and the impact of our

> previous births' karma and

> a solution to get rid of those bad accumulation by Growing

> spiritually.

>

> Thank you very much for your support .

>

> If you want to ask question more pertucularly, please let me

> know.

>

> Best regards

> S.G.R

>

> R S <globalastrologers (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

> Mr. SGR

>

> Before I put forward my view, let us have a common

> understanding of the following, otherwise someone may mistook

> and react unnecessarily.

>

> Rahu, Ketu and Saturn are considered to be outcaste of which

> Rahu is the primary one. That is, influence of the Rahu over

> marital significators/houses etc. may cause a person to marry

> outside his caste/clan/culture etc.

>

> Character of a person is to be considered by strength of

> Jupiter, Lagna, Moon and 4th house.

>

> If you also agree to aforementioned then :

>

> 4th lord of your chart which also rules 7th house (Mercury) is

> very well conjuct with 5th lord Moon and well placed in10th

> house. Therefore, the 4th house is said to be strong. However,

> the placement of Ketu in it makes is slightly weak. But as

> such Ketu is a fiery planet denoting anger, sudden injuries,

> etc. its influence is unlikely to disturb the specific

> signification of 4th house i.e. character. It can cause other

> sufferings but may not interfere with the character of the

> native concerned i.e. you.

> Moon is also found to be favorably placed.

> Jupiter is combust and afflicted by Rahu. Now, the weakness of

> Jupiter on account of being combust does indicate such

> interference but the placement of Jupiter in its own sign

> provides some strength. Your Venus is already well placed in

> 9th house.

> Now Dasa results: At present you are running under MD of Moon

> which is a very favorable planet in your chart ruling mind

> inter alia other things. The AD of Jupiter and PD of Mercury

> is very very likely to bless you with a good marital bond.

> And the fact that you also have interest/expertise in

> astrology is the one safeguarding you from malefic influences.

> The importance of Karma can not be ruled out i.e. to say that

> even if many malefic influences are on the chart, the decision

> has to be taken by the Native which can atleast block the

> negativity to enter; though may not be able to increase the

> positivity. It is, because of this reason, you have been able

> to understand the life to closely and practising the art of

> self-evaluation which only a few are aware of.

>

> Best Wishes

> Global Astrologers

> -

> astro learner

> vedic astrology

> Monday, December 11, 2006 4:52 PM

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Seeking Advice! ( Serious

> studies requested )

>

> Dear Mr.Sharma

>

> Thank you very much. I have to share my experience. It was

> faced by my family faced with

> some astrologers in TamilNadu.

>

> Case I. My Mother was told by one astrologer that I will get

> married to some girl who does

> not belong to our State,culture,etc.

>

> Case II. A family who proposed their daughter to me ,

> cancelled later , saying that their astrologer told them that

> I would have had an strong affair with a some girl.

>

> In my own studies, 9th Bhava indicates Dharma...one's moral

> aspect ........character ....if that bhava is aspected by

> Saturn ........... one can suspect.........their charecter.

> since Venus is in that house.........may be sort of affair

> with a girl.

>

> I still request to throw more light on this. Regarding my

> marriage , I assume that if at all it happens it shoule be

> within the Jupiter's bhukthi. ( in transit Jupiter is in 12th

> house..I am not sure further)

>

> Thanks and regards

> SGR

>

> R S <globalastrologers (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

> Mr. SGR

>

> Placement of Mars and Venus in 9th house denotes two-fold

> aspects. As far as significations of Venus are concerned i.e.

> 8th house (longetivity, inherited property or financial gains

> to father, easy success, journeys, initiatives); these are

> promoted. While the significations of Mars are of mixed

> nature. That is, Mars placed in its own sign in 9th house

> denotes strong luck while the placement of Venus in 9th house

> denotes troubles and as such, Mars is in its own house it will

> be able to conquer the affliction of Venus at the end. The

> placement of Saturn in 3rd house denotes foreign travel and

> journeys. The Vakra (retrograde) position of Saturn makes it

> more stronger.

>

> However, during Venus Mahadasa the results would have not been

> favorable in regard to parents and family in general.

>

> Best Wishes

>

> RS

> Global Astrologers

> -

> astro learner

> vedic astrology

> Sunday, December 10, 2006 4:16 PM

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Seeking Advice! ( Serious

> studies requested )

>

> Dear Mr.Sharma,

>

> Sincerely thanking you for taking your valuable time to study.

> I have to tell you two

> things.

>

> 1) I am yet to be married.

> 2) Though I had physical illness during my childhood, no major

> problem otherwise.

>

> I request you to view from the following point of view.

>

> 1) 9th lord affliction . Venus conjected with Mars. pls think

> about it.

> 2) Saturn is Vakra placed in third house.

>

> I will answer all your questions honestly (at

> later)...............at the same time I want you to use my

> horo for your own studies..........

>

> You perfectly said right that exactly at the Start of MOON MD

> , I landed in Dubai and working for a good organisation.

>

> As I am also learning Astrology , can you tell me how to see

> the strengh of the Planets those place in 10th house. Because

> , I am worried if Rahu spoils the goodness of other planets.

>

> Thanking you once more

>

> Best regards

> S.Govindh Raajan

>

> vishwraj <rajshekhar.sharma > wrote:

> Mr. SGR

>

> I really found your chart interesting and challenging.

>

> I analysed that you might be working in some big

> organisation/firm/MNC but at a lower/medium grade post related

> to

> computers/commerce/law. Further, the professional settlement

> has

> begun from onstart of Moon MD i.e. from 2004 onwards.

>

> You are likely to belong from averagely prosperous family

> while

> there appears to be big emotional/moral troubles on family

> front.

>

> Despite all odds, your education seem to be sound enough to

> provide

> you professional settlement, though with some difficulties.

>

> The torture you mentioned in your mail appeared to have caused

> due

> to Fiery diseases and physical weakness.

>

=== message truncated ===

Regards,

Krishna

http://astrokrishna.blogspot.com

December 21, 2006

Dear Mr. S.Govindh Raajan

I avoid concluding regarding well being of brothers and sisters through native's chart. As such, they (brothers/sisters) have got their separate identity.

In my opinion, happyness and relationships from coborns can be decided or analysed.

Best wishes

RS

Global Astrologers

-

astro learner

vedic astrology

Wednesday, December 20, 2006 1:55 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Request for Mr.R.S ( regarding serious study requested)

Dear Shri.Sharmaji,

I am in a hope to get more information from you. I want to study about more on 3rd house.

The points given in "Saravali" will suit my case or not?

In my case , with my experience I feel it is correct to some extend.

None of my yonger brothers or sisters are settled well . ( including my Twin). Should I treat him Elder or Yonger. He was born 3min later than me.

Best regards

S.Govindh Raajan

astro learner <vedic_learner > wrote:

To Mr.Seetharama

Thank you for coming up with your views.

For your information , my TOB is 11.52 .........My brother will be 11.55.

To Mr.Sharma

I wish to suggest in this way. Let the focus and the study to be on the third house - now. for Ninth house and other things.......I will give my inputs later.

At the very basic and learning ground ........(When I first started learning about houses and its significants, ) I immediately worried about my sibling..........and my relationship with them............. Because of Saturn ( Retro ) in third house. As it may common to everyone , I first look for the Malefics and its effects whenever I happen to look at any horos..

Pls refer the following point and give your feedback.

From Kalyana Verma's Saravali

21-24. PRINCIPLES RELATED TO THE 3rd HOUSE. When the 3rd House is owned by a malefic and is occupied by a malefic, the co-born are destroyed. Conversely, a benefic's Sign being the 3rd and occupation of benefics therein will cause happiness thereof. Now explained below is the method to ascertain the number of co-born. The number of Navāńśas past in the 3rd House denotes the number of brothers following the native. If other planets aspect the 3rd House, the said number (caused by Navāńśas) stands increased. Saturn placed in the 3rd in aspect to Mars causes destruction of co-born. But Venus in the 3rd and in aspect to Jupiter increases happiness thereof. Mercury placed in the 3rd House, in aspect to Mars (or in aspect to the Sun, as some texts read 'Bhaskara Drishtah' instead of 'Angaraka Drishtah'), the native's friends are destroyed. Rest (relating to the 4th House) may be understood from Bhavadhyaya (Ch. 30).