Guest guest Posted December 18, 2006 Report Share Posted December 18, 2006 Dear Neeraj, arjun there is some truth in both of ur views and must be pieced to make a part of the answer still NOT complete as we are all r still not sure of any authentic source I must start with the last para of Neeraj where he said practioneers of KSY, KAY and Mangalik remedies are mostly quacks and frauds who escape with their ignorence of the classical or textual references on interpretation and try to fix all under one stroke say like a PAIN KILLER which has paracetmol as a compound works for feVers, pains of the joints, aches, head aches etc. but doesn't fix the source. say head aches can come from stress, emotional upheavels like suppressed feelings, indignation upset over some shocking event, hunger, eye seight, colds/blocked nose .... Arjun- is also right in his trying to cite some celebrated astrologers using them but they used it as part of a reading not centered all their readings on it so they earn their respect and some money;the quacks just MAKE MONEY and hurt the SUBJECT MAX. anyway KSY can't deny what a chart has or make something from nothing say one has many -ve combinatios and 2 -ves wont make it positive either. KSY Nehru ,Aurangzeb, Chinigz Khan etc best figures we can count for success look for the success part thrir barbarian ways is a seperate issue a diff yoga. Prashant. Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000 > wrote: Dear Arjun Ji and other fellow members, First of all, I would like to clarify that I did not intend to said quacks / cheats to any of the fellow members or professional astrologers who believe in KSY / KAY. It is only that some people or pundits they scare the clients by telling KSY in chart even if the problem is of some other source. I have experienced this myself. As when, I knew nothing about astrology, some pundits told my parents that I have KSY in my chart and they took lot of money for pooja / hawan etc. and there were no improvement. Similarly, two three pundits told that they cannot tell about pooja done by others and insisted about performing pooja from them and charged again. Then I met one good astrologer and he told me that this is due to saturn's dasha and sadhesati running and told me some simple and practical remedies that actually helped. I have seen some persons those who do not have good knowledge of astrology and whenever any body goes to them for consultation, they will just tell almost everybody that they KSY or they will tell that somebody has done black magic on you and they charge heavily 12,000 to 30,000. I call those people as quacks. If I have hurted anybody's feelings unintentionally due to my post, I apologize for that. Yes, you are absolutely correct that in some of my previous readings, I have mentioned about KSY / KAY in charts. But, with some experience and some added knowledge over last one and a half year, I have found that in most of the cases, the problem is due to some other planet instead of KSY. Also, I have not found this yoga in any of the ancient classics. I may be wrong here and If there is any reference to this yoga in any of the classics (or if there is any good research article regarding this) please let me know so that I can learn it. Again, I would like to re-emphasize that I meant quacks / frauds for only those people who misguide the natives just to earn money by telling them lies, frightening them and most of these people call themseleves purohits/pundits/astrologers etc. Regards, Neeraj panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > wrote: dear friend based on your birth details of 07.10.1955, sompeta, 2113 hours, you have sampoorn kalasarpa yoga (half blind chart) with ketu in the ascendant and rahu in the seventh house and all other seven planets placed between 2nd and 6th houses. other than this, you are also running the last leg of sadesathi which shall be over in july, 2007. till then worshipping lord shiva will help you. as a remedy you may observe fastings on mondays (only during daytime) and also offer milk as abhishekam to a shivling at any shiva temple near your place. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com , "prasadbd1000" <prasadbd1000 wrote: > > Dear sir > You have not answred my question > Regards > Prasad BD > > , "panditarjun2004" > <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > Dear friends > > > > Whether to believe and accept a yoga/dosha or not is the choice of > a > > native. But those who vouch by astrology and claim themselves as > > astrology students or practitioners must not call their other > > fraternal members as quacks and cheats just/only because they > don't > > believe this yoga in their knowledge. > > > > I request neeraj ji and gaurav ji who called all those astrologers > > who believe and advocate ksy as quacks and cheats to consider the > > following FACTS: > > > > 1. I have already written about this in reply to similar > observation > > from gauravji on 07.07.2006 vide message number 28833. > > > > 1. albeit ksy is not mentioned in this nomenclature in the ancient > > astrology classics, the results of a half blind chart (ksy) have > been > > narrated by all leading jyotish luminaries like dr.b.v.raman in > his > > book "300 important combinations" and in various books of sri > sanjay > > rath whose two institutions contribute a majority of vedic > > astrologers. > > > > 2. most learnt astrologers besides the above two have written > dozens > > of books and have narrated various problems a ksy native undergoes > > and also suggested remedies. I can name all these leading > > astrologers of high reputation and their book names. > > > > 3. most prominent member astrologers of this group have mentioned > a > > native having ksy and recommended remedies in this group in their > > readings which are in public domain all these years. Names not > > required since almost all members except ashutoshji have written > > about ksy in their readings in this group. > > > > 4. neeraj guptaji himself in his own posts in this and other > groups > > mentioned that a person is having ksy and also spoke about kay in > his > > readings. (I can give message numbers as these are facts which > remain > > facts). > > > > Other than ksy, neecha bhanga rajayoga (nbry) and uchha bhanga > > daridra yoga (ubdy) also does not exist in the original classics > but > > still many reputed astrologers advocate them. > > > > Mangal dosha has not been mentioned by its name in any ancient > > classic. Still most astrologers give manglik dosha and all > > matrimonial sites and newspapers allot separate section for > > mangliks. Most (if not all) astrologers have posted various > messages > > believing mangal dosha. > > > > Vipareeta rajayoga is also not described in its name in the > ancient > > clasics, still it is used by all leading astrologers. > > > > Grahana yoga is not mentioned in the classics, still it is > mentioned > > and found true by many astrologers. > > > > Just because this particular name ksy is not mentioned in the > > classics shall not be a bane to the research established and > accepted > > over decades. > > > > The priests of nashik jyotirlingam temple as well as the kalahasti > > temple have been doing this kala sarpa dosha nivarana poojas for > > several decades even before books were written on ksy. Will you > call > > these holy ancient jyotirling temples priests also cheats and > quacks? > > > > Sage parashara and ALL ancient astrologers have written various > sarpa > > doshams and sarpa shapams. just because these were written in the > > ancient classics, you believe all these sarpa doshams and sarpa > > shapams. ALL VEDIC ASTROLOGERS 100% BELIEVE THESE SARPA DOSHAMS > AND > > SARPA SHAPAMS BECAUSE ALL ANCIENT CLASSICS MENTION THEM. > > > > You have every right to believe or disbelieve a particular yoga or > > dosham but kindly do not call all those who believe ksy and > suggest > > remedies as quacks and cheats. > > > > With best wishes and blessings > > pandit arjun > > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > > > , Neeraj Gupta > > <gupta_neeraj_2000@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Prasad, > > > > > > Gaurav Ji is correct as KSY / KAY is not mentioned in any of > the > > Jyotish Literatures. Also, there are various yogas in the charts > and > > only one yoga cannot produce results for whole life until and > unless > > it is exceptionally strong. > > > > > > Some fakes / quacks try to earn money by frightening the > clients > > about telling this yoga, whereas the root cause of the problem is > > somewhere else. Just pray your Ishta Devta and it will do good for > > whole life time. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Neeraj > > > > > > <gg_0202@> wrote: > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > Dear Prasad, > > > There is nothing like Kal Sarpa Yoga/Dosha...all these were > created > > > to create panic among ppl.... > > > The pioneers of KalSarpa Yoga/Dosha are themselves in a dilemma > how > > > many Kala Sarpa Yogas are there....even they r confused which > one > > to > > > be termed as KalSarpa Yoga...& which one is a Kaal Amrita Yoga (A > > new > > > yoga to save themselves if they find a person having KaalSarpa > Yoga > > > but successful in all aspects)... > > > Do your work..pray to god...nothing to worry!! > > > Thanq > > > Gaurav > > > http://gauravastro.150m.com > > > > > > , "prasadbd1000" > > > <prasadbd1000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > WHY I AM NOT GETTING ANY RESPONCE TO THIS REQUEST > > > > > > > > , "prasadbd1000" > > > > <prasadbd1000@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I have the kalasarpa ddosham , I have performed nivarana > puja > > at > > > sri > > > > > kalahasti. How many times i.e no of years , this niovarana > puja > > > has > > > > to > > > > > be performed to get relief > > > > > regards > > > > > Prasad BD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful > > email and get things done faster. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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