Sammohan Diksha

December 18, 2006

I am a student of Clinical Hypnotherapy in Delhi, so im studying

various forms and methods of hypnotism world over. I have read the book

Practical Hypnotism by Gurudev many times and now i find it even more

interesting. I am interested in practically learning this method also.

I hear this month(27-30 dec 06) gurudev is visiting delhi gurudham in

Pitampura... i have few important questions.

So can i get some guidence and diksha at that time?

How much do i need to pay for it? (k i know im not "buying" a diksha,

but im a student, so its a must for me to know...)

And how long does it really take to learn it?

Im looking forward to listening from gurubhais who have succesfully

accomplished this Sadhna. This is really very serious for me, as im a

proffesional in this thing. Any help will be highly appreciated. Thanks.

December 19, 2006

Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram

You must be doing already traatak on a shakti chakra for mastering

Hypnotism.

shakti chakras are aslo avialable at Gurudham.

Guru Diksha is basic and doing specified Guru mantra japa everyday

is essential.

Also buy some old magazines to get yourself familar with the basic

requirements being a sadhak. Guru diksha will require Rs. 540/- and

you need to have one laminated photograph of Gurudev, One safatic

(crystal mala),

one wollen sitting mat of yellow colour, one Guru yantra( made from

copper or parad)

& one book of daily Guru sadhna.

These articles will cost you Rs. 550/-(approx).

Price of Guru shawl is included in Guru Diksha amount.

These are basic requirements for every sadhak, no matter which

specific sadhna a person wants to do after that.

At Gurudham you may enquire about the amount required to take

special diksha called

" Sammohan Diksha". You may take that next month or next day if

possible. This is second stage.

First is Guru Diksha and it is basic. After that it is you and your

hardwork combined with devotion

and faith.

Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram

, "scorpion_1112in"

<scorpion_1112in wrote:

>

> I am a student of Clinical Hypnotherapy in Delhi, so im studying

> various forms and methods of hypnotism world over. I have read the

book

> Practical Hypnotism by Gurudev many times and now i find it even

more

> interesting. I am interested in practically learning this method

also.

> I hear this month(27-30 dec 06) gurudev is visiting delhi gurudham

in

> Pitampura... i have few important questions.

>

> So can i get some guidence and diksha at that time?

>

> How much do i need to pay for it? (k i know im not "buying" a

diksha,

> but im a student, so its a must for me to know...)

>

> And how long does it really take to learn it?

>

> Im looking forward to listening from gurubhais who have

succesfully

> accomplished this Sadhna. This is really very serious for me, as

im a

> proffesional in this thing. Any help will be highly appreciated.

Thanks.

>

December 22, 2006

Actually in June this year, i met Shashtri at Delhi Gurudham and i

told him i'll take this Diksha after i get my proffesional working

degree from an American institute(which is half pending, so i wanna

make use of this time). He did say something about getting a mantra

with Diksha... but i didnt ask for details. (And yes, he talked very

nicely with lots of patience, not like what a few other ppl wrote

here in previous posts, he was very nice)

That day i bought a CD of "Hypnotism Rahasya" Pravachan by gurudev

from gurudham, in that Pravachan there was no mention of such a

lengthy method... or mantra.

In words of gurudev

"Seekhney wala sammohan vigyani ke liye jayda behatar to yeh hai ki

wah kisi safal hypnotist ke paas jakar rahay aur practical roop se

seekhay, anyatha is vigyan ko pustako ke madhyam se bhi seekha ja

sakta hai, sekhney waley sammohan vigyani ko chahiye ki vah subah

sadharan aur saral vastra pehan kar ekant kamaray mein zameen par

baith jaye, iskey liye koi asan koi disha nirdharit nahin hai, jis

tarah se bhi asani se baith sakta hai baith jaye aur apne samney ek

feet ke doori par, diwar par apni ankhon ke theek samney ek chota sa

lal bindu laga de(itni badi jitni dikhai de sakey), iske bad us lal

bindi ko bina palak jhapkaye ektak dekhta rahe, tratak karey, shuro

mein 2-3 minute mein ankhein band ho jayeingee, dheeray dheeray is

abhyas ko badhaye, Iskey liye kisi mantra japa ki zaroorat nahin hai,

Keval Kriyatmak Paksh Hai, is bindu ko apalak dekhte rehney ki kriya

kam se kam 32 minute ki honi chahiye aur zayda se zayda 60 minute ka

abhyas karna chahiye"..... Yeh to Shuddh Vigyan hai.

Besides this i have read the book practical hypnotism since i was in

10th grade, many times, there also no mention of mantra. Anyhow now

im professionaly into all this. Well u know what, other hypnotism

methods around the world dont even use any Tratak and u will see many

expert hypnotists wearing spectacles. Even ppl doing Past life

Therapy, life in between life therapy, spiritual hypnosis, kundalini

hypnosis wear specs, but we have a strict ethical code to follow,

only to help who comes for own help.

Still im very interested in learning and researching "this" method.

This method includes great self discipline(means self improvement)

and "Thought Projection" which i feel should be helpful in quicky

hypnotising a willing client to third stage (somnabulistic) and maybe

giving faster results. I have tried deepak tratak with some success.

I just want to "ensure" success in Tratak. This is a devine science

of mind.

Right, i get the thumb rule, first I need to "Sidh" guru mantra. Well

the minimum chant is 1.25 Lakh for every mantra right? Even at the

rate of 1 hour(means roughly 4 rounds of 108 bead Rosary) a day of

mantra chanting plus 20-32 min of Tratak, it seems this is gonna take

atleast 289 days for mantra siddhi. I dont have any problem taking

guru diksha, i respect guru nikhileshawara by heart but the thing is

i am not a learner of occult right now, im only interested in

hypnotism, mind... taking guru diksha means opening my doors to vast

world of occult as well and being bound... i wanna confine my scope.

One thing at time right, like "Ek Saadhey sab sadhey, sab saadhey sab

jaye". So i want to confine my scope to hypnotism, atleast for now,

is that possible?

I guess guru mantra is their for some inner strength and grace from

spirit of gurudev? Sorry im asking too many questions maybe but thats

the way i am, im a researcher at heart and i need to know everything

about this b4 i actually get into it. Then u know i will have to make

many more calculation in schedules n all n then plan the road ahead.

I already spend lot of time with myself, my family my wife doesnt

like that. Also im already bound by many rules from Spirit guides...

and i have other mantras to deal with... yes i took one diksha from

Bhram rishi kumar swami ji... two diksha from different gurus at a

time... complex situation huh?

Also the rules u mention seem too strict... Guruji taught

me, "compassion out of compulsion is not compassion", it just builds

with time, from inside... and i found it to be true, but i liked what

Shashtri Ji said "Take diksha then rest is all on ur hard work", well

hardwork never killed anyone and if thats the case, then im sure to

succeed. But i need to narrow the task list.

So what would u suggest from here?

, "sharva_ajay" <sharva_ajay

wrote:

>

> Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram

>

> You must be doing already traatak on a shakti chakra for mastering

> Hypnotism.

> shakti chakras are aslo avialable at Gurudham.

> Guru Diksha is basic and doing specified Guru mantra japa everyday

> is essential.

> Also buy some old magazines to get yourself familar with the basic

> requirements being a sadhak. Guru diksha will require Rs. 540/- and

> you need to have one laminated photograph of Gurudev, One safatic

> (crystal mala),

> one wollen sitting mat of yellow colour, one Guru yantra( made from

> copper or parad)

> & one book of daily Guru sadhna.

> These articles will cost you Rs. 550/-(approx).

> Price of Guru shawl is included in Guru Diksha amount.

> These are basic requirements for every sadhak, no matter which

> specific sadhna a person wants to do after that.

>

> At Gurudham you may enquire about the amount required to take

> special diksha called

> " Sammohan Diksha". You may take that next month or next day if

> possible. This is second stage.

> First is Guru Diksha and it is basic. After that it is you and your

> hardwork combined with devotion

> and faith.

>

> Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram

>

> , "scorpion_1112in"

> <scorpion_1112in@> wrote:

> >

> > I am a student of Clinical Hypnotherapy in Delhi, so im studying

> > various forms and methods of hypnotism world over. I have read

the

> book

> > Practical Hypnotism by Gurudev many times and now i find it even

> more

> > interesting. I am interested in practically learning this method

> also.

> > I hear this month(27-30 dec 06) gurudev is visiting delhi

gurudham

> in

> > Pitampura... i have few important questions.

> >

> > So can i get some guidence and diksha at that time?

> >

> > How much do i need to pay for it? (k i know im not "buying" a

> diksha,

> > but im a student, so its a must for me to know...)

> >

> > And how long does it really take to learn it?

> >

> > Im looking forward to listening from gurubhais who have

> succesfully

> > accomplished this Sadhna. This is really very serious for me, as

> im a

> > proffesional in this thing. Any help will be highly appreciated.

> Thanks.

> >

>

December 22, 2006

Jai Gurudev!

Gurudev Ki Kripa Aparampar!1

Dear Bhai,

I read each word thoroughly what you wrote. I would

also stick to Shashtri ji's advice to take Gurudiksha

first. Nothing moves and nothing works in absence of

an Able Guru.

You may proceed by buying a book and reap initial

gains, but again let me tell you at one point or the

other you would need Gurudev to guide you, to shape

you up, and to take you to the heights u aspire for.

There is no Gyan without a Guru and if all books had

been all knowledgeable then we all would have been on

the top by now.

My best with you bhai

Jai Gurudev

somy

--- scorpion_1112in <scorpion_1112in > wrote:

> Actually in June this year, i met Shashtri at Delhi

> Gurudham and i

> told him i'll take this Diksha after i get my

> proffesional working

> degree from an American institute(which is half

> pending, so i wanna

> make use of this time). He did say something about

> getting a mantra

> with Diksha... but i didnt ask for details. (And

> yes, he talked very

> nicely with lots of patience, not like what a few

> other ppl wrote

> here in previous posts, he was very nice)

>

> That day i bought a CD of "Hypnotism Rahasya"

> Pravachan by gurudev

> from gurudham, in that Pravachan there was no

> mention of such a

> lengthy method... or mantra.

>

> In words of gurudev

>

> "Seekhney wala sammohan vigyani ke liye jayda

> behatar to yeh hai ki

> wah kisi safal hypnotist ke paas jakar rahay aur

> practical roop se

> seekhay, anyatha is vigyan ko pustako ke madhyam se

> bhi seekha ja

> sakta hai, sekhney waley sammohan vigyani ko chahiye

> ki vah subah

> sadharan aur saral vastra pehan kar ekant kamaray

> mein zameen par

> baith jaye, iskey liye koi asan koi disha nirdharit

> nahin hai, jis

> tarah se bhi asani se baith sakta hai baith jaye aur

> apne samney ek

> feet ke doori par, diwar par apni ankhon ke theek

> samney ek chota sa

> lal bindu laga de(itni badi jitni dikhai de sakey),

> iske bad us lal

> bindi ko bina palak jhapkaye ektak dekhta rahe,

> tratak karey, shuro

> mein 2-3 minute mein ankhein band ho jayeingee,

> dheeray dheeray is

> abhyas ko badhaye, Iskey liye kisi mantra japa ki

> zaroorat nahin hai,

> Keval Kriyatmak Paksh Hai, is bindu ko apalak dekhte

> rehney ki kriya

> kam se kam 32 minute ki honi chahiye aur zayda se

> zayda 60 minute ka

> abhyas karna chahiye"..... Yeh to Shuddh Vigyan hai.

>

> Besides this i have read the book practical

> hypnotism since i was in

> 10th grade, many times, there also no mention of

> mantra. Anyhow now

> im professionaly into all this. Well u know what,

> other hypnotism

> methods around the world dont even use any Tratak

> and u will see many

> expert hypnotists wearing spectacles. Even ppl doing

> Past life

> Therapy, life in between life therapy, spiritual

> hypnosis, kundalini

> hypnosis wear specs, but we have a strict ethical

> code to follow,

> only to help who comes for own help.

>

> Still im very interested in learning and researching

> "this" method.

> This method includes great self discipline(means

> self improvement)

> and "Thought Projection" which i feel should be

> helpful in quicky

> hypnotising a willing client to third stage

> (somnabulistic) and maybe

> giving faster results. I have tried deepak tratak

> with some success.

> I just want to "ensure" success in Tratak. This is a

> devine science

> of mind.

>

> Right, i get the thumb rule, first I need to "Sidh"

> guru mantra. Well

> the minimum chant is 1.25 Lakh for every mantra

> right? Even at the

> rate of 1 hour(means roughly 4 rounds of 108 bead

> Rosary) a day of

> mantra chanting plus 20-32 min of Tratak, it seems

> this is gonna take

> atleast 289 days for mantra siddhi. I dont have any

> problem taking

> guru diksha, i respect guru nikhileshawara by heart

> but the thing is

> i am not a learner of occult right now, im only

> interested in

> hypnotism, mind... taking guru diksha means opening

> my doors to vast

> world of occult as well and being bound... i wanna

> confine my scope.

> One thing at time right, like "Ek Saadhey sab

> sadhey, sab saadhey sab

> jaye". So i want to confine my scope to hypnotism,

> atleast for now,

> is that possible?

>

> I guess guru mantra is their for some inner strength

> and grace from

> spirit of gurudev? Sorry im asking too many

> questions maybe but thats

> the way i am, im a researcher at heart and i need to

> know everything

> about this b4 i actually get into it. Then u know i

> will have to make

> many more calculation in schedules n all n then plan

> the road ahead.

> I already spend lot of time with myself, my family

> my wife doesnt

> like that. Also im already bound by many rules from

> Spirit guides...

> and i have other mantras to deal with... yes i took

> one diksha from

> Bhram rishi kumar swami ji... two diksha from

> different gurus at a

> time... complex situation huh?

>

> Also the rules u mention seem too strict... Guruji

> taught

> me, "compassion out of compulsion is not

> compassion", it just builds

> with time, from inside... and i found it to be true,

> but i liked what

> Shashtri Ji said "Take diksha then rest is all on ur

> hard work", well

> hardwork never killed anyone and if thats the case,

> then im sure to

> succeed. But i need to narrow the task list.

>

> So what would u suggest from here?

>

> , "sharva_ajay"

> <sharva_ajay

> wrote:

> >

> > Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram

> >

> > You must be doing already traatak on a shakti

> chakra for mastering

> > Hypnotism.

> > shakti chakras are aslo avialable at Gurudham.

> > Guru Diksha is basic and doing specified Guru

> mantra japa everyday

> > is essential.

> > Also buy some old magazines to get yourself

> familar with the basic

> > requirements being a sadhak. Guru diksha will

> require Rs. 540/- and

> > you need to have one laminated photograph of

> Gurudev, One safatic

> > (crystal mala),

> > one wollen sitting mat of yellow colour, one Guru

> yantra( made from

> > copper or parad)

> > & one book of daily Guru sadhna.

> > These articles will cost you Rs. 550/-(approx).

> > Price of Guru shawl is included in Guru Diksha

> amount.

> > These are basic requirements for every sadhak, no

> matter which

> > specific sadhna a person wants to do after that.

> >

> > At Gurudham you may enquire about the amount

> required to take

> > special diksha called

> > " Sammohan Diksha". You may take that next month

> or next day if

> > possible. This is second stage.

> > First is Guru Diksha and it is basic. After that

> it is you and your

> > hardwork combined with devotion

> > and faith.

> >

> > Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram

> >

>

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December 24, 2006

Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram

We Didn't say that you need to do mantra japa to

practice Traatak. We meant that you if are already doing traatak

and achieved success to a level and are unable to progress

beyond that, for which you have decided to take special Shaktipaat

Sammohan Diksha for better mastery over hypnotism. For that only you

need to do mantra sadhna.

Doing daily Guru mantra japa and Guru Poojan just takes half an hour

even if done in a slow,relaxed and easy manner.

If a person feels that he can get new knowledge from

Gurudev Nikhil which was not available to him/her previously

then he can take Guru Diksha from them even if he/she has taken

Guru Diksha previously. Guru is not just a body, He/She is

manifestation of knowledge in physical form . It is just that

we respect,follow & imbibe knowledge in ourselves by using various

methods

which are projection of humbleness faith & Devotion. The reason

behind this is

a humble mind is able to absorb knowledge and Diksha is the starting

point.

Our duty after taking Gurud Diksha is only that we follow what our

Gurudev has said.

It may be the a compulsion ,when bad sanskars hidden in us oppose

our efforts in following the Guru,

but not of a kind which is looked with disrespect.

A thirsty person doing something to get water to quench his thirst,

even if

under some compulsion, will not be looked down upon. On the other

hand a person doing

something under compulsion to get alchohol for himself, even due to

unstoppable urge,

will be looked down upon.

Just like " Compassion due to compulsion is not compassion".

Simalarly " Every compulsion does not qualify for compassion".

Both are true and one does not negate the other.

Gurudev Nikhil have also pointed towards our shortcoming in this

regards.

They have told that when we take Mantra Japa as some kind of

burden, do it with the tendency of "just somehow finish it off",

some how carry through the whole process with a laboured

disinterested manner and wavering mind then we will not

get complete results.

Whatever Gurudev have said, tells us that there should be

more of compassionate drive to do sadhna.

Similarly Gurudev have asked us not to get disheartened or impatient

with these problems. They always suggested methods to

get over these problems. They helped us with their knowledge and

love.

They still help us in so many ways that we are not even able to

feel through our limited perception abilities.

Gurudev have given us so many methods to motivate ourselves that

anyone who is interested in doing sadhna will use one or

the other sentence of Gurudev to climb over the mountain of

obstacles and reach

his destination of desired objective.

Similarly a person who does not want to do sadhna, will collect a

thousand reasons

from his surroundings and the world around to shun this path.

Gurudev's knowledge covers so many vast spheres of specialisation

that it

is very difficult to put them in words with the highest magnitude of

efforts.

We do not say that only those who have taken diksha from them have

been

influenced by their knowledge. Before spreading the light of sadhnas

through mantra, tantra, yantra

they had already written scores of books on astrology and put it on

very high pedestal of respect

in world over. Whenever there was contradiction of views or

unceratinty over some astrological aspect,

Gurudev's analysis was accepted as final word on that issue from

everyone in the astrological fraternity.

Gurudev's focus and sense of purpose is just unparralled when we see

that they did not

decide to sit back on the praise and fame which they had earned

with so much hardwork and started

a new phase of giving knowledge to the masses. They revived the age

old sacred tradition of Guru and Disciple

in a broader social setup as it was just getting confined to

handful of sadahks in some remote places of Himalayas.

Many sadhaks who were associated with Gurudev from earlier days were

also surprised by the fact

that after taking the science of astrology to such great heights

they moved ahead in their journey of giving knowledge of

mantra,tantra, yantra to people as if they have nothing to do with

astrology and diverted their whole effort and time to guide sadhaks

in

their pursuit of mastering mantra,tantra and yantra sadhnas. Many

people who have read only books

of astrology of Gurudev know Him as an astrologer only. They are not

aware of Him as Guru and spiritual guide

of lacs of sadhaks around the world.

If that was not enough, once Gurudev told that people have started

thinking about Him as the master of mantra

,tantra & yantra only. Gurudev told that He is a many times better

as Ayurvedacharaya & as a Alchemsist.

Now we can just imagine how much justice we have done in terms of

learning complete knowledge from Gurudev

and how much we have failed to do.

Reasons for telling all this is that there are millions of people

around the world who are influenced by

Gurudev's Knowledge and they are using it in their personal and

professional lives.Therefore there is no

restriction in grasping the knowledge by one's mind, body & soul.

we in this discussion group can just discuss about a few things or

give information to one another.

It is no way exaustive or restrictive in any manner.

Taking Diksha and doing sdhna is certainly a better path. It has its

own merits which are not available to

a person otherwise but if person wants to take benifit from

Gurudev's knowledge without doing Mantra,Tantra & yantra based

sadhnas

then he can easily do so.

A person take read Gurudev's books on palmistry, astrology,

hypnotism, Alchemy, Higher stages of Yoga, Kundlini

Jaagran etc. and take befinit from them by putting things into

practise, whichever permissible,and taking due

precautions wherever mentioned.

Sadhna is the path where things need te be done practically and

merely reading about them will not give any benifit.

Doing Traatak is also a kind of sadhna although we do not do any

mantra japa.

Our personal experience and opinion is that it is always better to

go as per the requirement of sadhna,

which is taking Diksha, Doing mantra Japa, Using Sadhna Samagri etc.

and following other

directions which can be easily practiced by any average householder.

It is always better to take a decision on our own in these matters.

And we suggest everyone to do so.

You may read following article about Diksha & Shaktipat Diksha:-

http://www.siddhashram.org/diksha.shtml

You may read other literature also at Gurudham and you will find why

Guru mantra is important. Although complete book on its importance

will be

like a drop in the ocean, literally. We do not want ourselves in the

dilemma of what to leave and what to write with reference to

Guru Mantra.

Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram

, "scorpion_1112in"

<scorpion_1112in wrote:

>

> Actually in June this year, i met Shashtri at Delhi Gurudham and i

> told him i'll take this Diksha after i get my proffesional working

> degree from an American institute(which is half pending, so i

wanna

> make use of this time). He did say something about getting a

mantra

> with Diksha... but i didnt ask for details. (And yes, he talked

very

> nicely with lots of patience, not like what a few other ppl wrote

> here in previous posts, he was very nice)

>

> That day i bought a CD of "Hypnotism Rahasya" Pravachan by gurudev

> from gurudham, in that Pravachan there was no mention of such a

> lengthy method... or mantra.

>

> In words of gurudev

>

> "Seekhney wala sammohan vigyani ke liye jayda behatar to yeh hai

ki

> wah kisi safal hypnotist ke paas jakar rahay aur practical roop se

> seekhay, anyatha is vigyan ko pustako ke madhyam se bhi seekha ja

> sakta hai, sekhney waley sammohan vigyani ko chahiye ki vah subah

> sadharan aur saral vastra pehan kar ekant kamaray mein zameen par

> baith jaye, iskey liye koi asan koi disha nirdharit nahin hai, jis

> tarah se bhi asani se baith sakta hai baith jaye aur apne samney

ek

> feet ke doori par, diwar par apni ankhon ke theek samney ek chota

sa

> lal bindu laga de(itni badi jitni dikhai de sakey), iske bad us

lal

> bindi ko bina palak jhapkaye ektak dekhta rahe, tratak karey,

shuro

> mein 2-3 minute mein ankhein band ho jayeingee, dheeray dheeray is

> abhyas ko badhaye, Iskey liye kisi mantra japa ki zaroorat nahin

hai,

> Keval Kriyatmak Paksh Hai, is bindu ko apalak dekhte rehney ki

kriya

> kam se kam 32 minute ki honi chahiye aur zayda se zayda 60 minute

ka

> abhyas karna chahiye"..... Yeh to Shuddh Vigyan hai.

>

> Besides this i have read the book practical hypnotism since i was

in

> 10th grade, many times, there also no mention of mantra. Anyhow

now

> im professionaly into all this. Well u know what, other hypnotism

> methods around the world dont even use any Tratak and u will see

many

> expert hypnotists wearing spectacles. Even ppl doing Past life

> Therapy, life in between life therapy, spiritual hypnosis,

kundalini

> hypnosis wear specs, but we have a strict ethical code to follow,

> only to help who comes for own help.

>

> Still im very interested in learning and researching "this"

method.

> This method includes great self discipline(means self improvement)

> and "Thought Projection" which i feel should be helpful in quicky

> hypnotising a willing client to third stage (somnabulistic) and

maybe

> giving faster results. I have tried deepak tratak with some

success.

> I just want to "ensure" success in Tratak. This is a devine

science

> of mind.

>

> Right, i get the thumb rule, first I need to "Sidh" guru mantra.

Well

> the minimum chant is 1.25 Lakh for every mantra right? Even at the

> rate of 1 hour(means roughly 4 rounds of 108 bead Rosary) a day of

> mantra chanting plus 20-32 min of Tratak, it seems this is gonna

take

> atleast 289 days for mantra siddhi. I dont have any problem taking

> guru diksha, i respect guru nikhileshawara by heart but the thing

is

> i am not a learner of occult right now, im only interested in

> hypnotism, mind... taking guru diksha means opening my doors to

vast

> world of occult as well and being bound... i wanna confine my

scope.

> One thing at time right, like "Ek Saadhey sab sadhey, sab saadhey

sab

> jaye". So i want to confine my scope to hypnotism, atleast for

now,

> is that possible?

>

> I guess guru mantra is their for some inner strength and grace

from

> spirit of gurudev? Sorry im asking too many questions maybe but

thats

> the way i am, im a researcher at heart and i need to know

everything

> about this b4 i actually get into it. Then u know i will have to

make

> many more calculation in schedules n all n then plan the road

ahead.

> I already spend lot of time with myself, my family my wife doesnt

> like that. Also im already bound by many rules from Spirit

guides...

> and i have other mantras to deal with... yes i took one diksha

from

> Bhram rishi kumar swami ji... two diksha from different gurus at a

> time... complex situation huh?

>

> Also the rules u mention seem too strict... Guruji taught

> me, "compassion out of compulsion is not compassion", it just

builds

> with time, from inside... and i found it to be true, but i liked

what

> Shashtri Ji said "Take diksha then rest is all on ur hard work",

well

> hardwork never killed anyone and if thats the case, then im sure

to

> succeed. But i need to narrow the task list.

>

> So what would u suggest from here?

>

> , "sharva_ajay" <sharva_ajay@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram

> >

> > You must be doing already traatak on a shakti chakra for

mastering

> > Hypnotism.

> > shakti chakras are aslo avialable at Gurudham.

> > Guru Diksha is basic and doing specified Guru mantra japa

everyday

> > is essential.

> > Also buy some old magazines to get yourself familar with the

basic

> > requirements being a sadhak. Guru diksha will require Rs. 540/-

and

> > you need to have one laminated photograph of Gurudev, One

safatic

> > (crystal mala),

> > one wollen sitting mat of yellow colour, one Guru yantra( made

from

> > copper or parad)

> > & one book of daily Guru sadhna.

> > These articles will cost you Rs. 550/-(approx).

> > Price of Guru shawl is included in Guru Diksha amount.

> > These are basic requirements for every sadhak, no matter which

> > specific sadhna a person wants to do after that.

> >

> > At Gurudham you may enquire about the amount required to take

> > special diksha called

> > " Sammohan Diksha". You may take that next month or next day if

> > possible. This is second stage.

> > First is Guru Diksha and it is basic. After that it is you and

your

> > hardwork combined with devotion

> > and faith.

> >

> > Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram Nikhileshwaram

> >

> > , "scorpion_1112in"

> > <scorpion_1112in@> wrote:

> > >

> > > I am a student of Clinical Hypnotherapy in Delhi, so im

studying

> > > various forms and methods of hypnotism world over. I have read

> the

> > book

> > > Practical Hypnotism by Gurudev many times and now i find it

even

> > more

> > > interesting. I am interested in practically learning this

method

> > also.

> > > I hear this month(27-30 dec 06) gurudev is visiting delhi

> gurudham

> > in

> > > Pitampura... i have few important questions.

> > >

> > > So can i get some guidence and diksha at that time?

> > >

> > > How much do i need to pay for it? (k i know im not "buying" a

> > diksha,

> > > but im a student, so its a must for me to know...)

> > >

> > > And how long does it really take to learn it?

> > >

> > > Im looking forward to listening from gurubhais who have

> > succesfully

> > > accomplished this Sadhna. This is really very serious for me,

as

> > im a

> > > proffesional in this thing. Any help will be highly

appreciated.

> > Thanks.

> > >

> >

>

December 24, 2006

jay gurudev.

nikhilam nikhilam nikhilam

Dear gurubhais,

I am also following the same way I mean to say that I am also studying for the hypnotism, and sammohan but i truly failed many times , will u pls tell me about the complete method of tratak. I will be very very greatful for u , hope don't mind , I am interupting to your discussion but pls don't mind.

thanx

JAI GURUDEV.

scorpion_1112in <scorpion_1112in > wrote: